Re: [Mpls] RE: Another DT restaurant closes

2005-10-21 Thread David Shove
I know once again why I stopped reading posts by MA. --David Shove Roseville On Thu, 20 Oct 2005, Tim Bonham wrote: I'm sick of the middle-class, I think that we can all learn a lesson from the USSR and eliminate the upper and middle classes and all live in poverty together! Equal

Re: [Mpls] RE: Another DT restaurant closes

2005-10-21 Thread Pat Bohn
As a person who, until last week, has spent almost every Tuesday night at Molly's for years, I have to tell you that there is a lot more issues there then just the smoking ban. Since Molly's moved to the new site, they've never had smoking in the restaurant side so the smoking ban

Re: [Mpls] RE: Another DT restaurant closes

2005-10-21 Thread Dan
As a person who, until last week, has spent almost every Tuesday night at Molly's for years, I have to tell you that there is a lot more issues there then just the smoking ban. Since Molly's moved to the new site, they've never had smoking in the restaurant side so the smoking ban

Re: [Mpls] RE: Another DT restaurant closes

2005-10-21 Thread Andy Driscoll
If restaurants die because of smoking bans, they deserve to. Restaurants are for eating, not smoking; they're for families and socializing, not just for smoking, which harms everyone...except alcohol purveyors. Andy Driscoll Saint Paul -- on 10/21/05 1:46 PM, Dan wrote: As a person who,

Re: [Mpls] RE: Another DT restaurant closes

2005-10-20 Thread Michael Libby
On 10/20/05, Andy Driscoll [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What claptrap. Lovely opening. Restaurants are opening and closing all the time and we have more restaurants than we could possibly support in this metro area in any event. We have more restaurants than we could possibly support? Then why

[Mpls] RE: Another DT restaurant closes

2005-10-20 Thread Ray Marshall
-- Message: 4 Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 22:47:39 -0500 From: Michael Atherton [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Mpls] RE: Another DT restaurant closes Steve Nelson wrote: Before blaming the smoking ban I would look to the long term economic decision made

Re: [Mpls] RE: Another DT restaurant closes

2005-10-20 Thread Michael Thompson
- Original Message - From: Andy Driscoll [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Dan McGrath [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Minneapolis Issues mpls@mnforum.org Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2005 12:30 AM Subject: Re: [Mpls] RE: Another DT restaurant closes What claptrap. Restaurants are opening and closing all

Re: [Mpls] RE: Another DT restaurant closes

2005-10-20 Thread Michael Libby
On 10/20/05, Michael Libby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here is a link to the BLS data on (un)employment in metro areas. Oops!. Here's the link I spoke of, but forgot to include: http://www.bls.gov/news.release/archives/metro_09282005.pdf Scroll down. You'll notice that Minneapolis/St. Paul

[Mpls] RE: Another DT restaurant closes

2005-10-20 Thread Joel Bergstrom
Debate the reasons certain restaurants close all you want, but don't ignore the one thing they all had in common: bad to mediocre food that could be found anywhere in the seven county metro. There is a reason Zelo, Ike's, Bella Notte and other, non-chain restaurants are succeeding downtown

[Mpls] RE: Another DT restaurant closes

2005-10-20 Thread Joel Bergstrom
Sorry, forgot to sign that last one. Joel Bergstrom Linden Hills - Yahoo! Music Unlimited - Access over 1 million songs. Try it free. REMINDERS: 1. Be civil! Please read the NEW RULES at http://www.e-democracy.org/rules. If you think a member

Re: [Mpls] RE: Another DT restaurant closes

2005-10-20 Thread Ed Kohler
Dan Mcgrath wrote: Hasn't anyone considered that restaurants, and bars may be closing due to the gigantic drop in patronage following the March 31st implementation of the Minneapolis and Hennepin County smoking bans? Since the ban(s) took effect, 40 bars and several (don't have the exact

[Mpls] RE: Another DT restaurant closes

2005-10-20 Thread Tim Bonham
I'm sick of the middle-class, I think that we can all learn a lesson from the USSR and eliminate the upper and middle classes and all live in poverty together! Equal incomes for all! God bless Minneapolis. Michael Atherton Prospect Park Actually, Michael, your facts are a bit off

Re: [Mpls] RE: Another DT restaurant closes

2005-10-20 Thread Steve Nelson
Gee whiz, Tim, did they happen to reveal how much of that $11,750,000,000,000 was controlled by the top 2% of the population, or top 5% or 10%? And then divide what is left over-- Steve Nelson Willard Hay I'm sick of the middle-class, I think that we can all learn a lesson from the

[Mpls] RE: Another DT restaurant closes

2005-10-19 Thread Ray Marshall
It may be a block out of the area, but don't forget that the locally owned Cafe diNapoli on Hennepin closed in July. They had been there for about 65 years. Ray Marshall Hiawatha -- Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 12:31:38 -0500 From: Tom Madden [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re:

[Mpls] RE: Another DT restaurant closes

2005-10-19 Thread WJKAHN
How about a local chain? The Green Mill in Uptown does not deliver to addresses in Mpls north of I94 and the one in St. Paul does not go anywhere in Mpls creating a huge dead spot for the chain. I think new franchises are built around on site brewing similar to Town Hall and Rock Bottom, both

Re: [Mpls] RE: Another DT restaurant closes

2005-10-19 Thread Becca Vargo Daggett
On Oct 19, 2005, at 6:48 PM, Michael Thompson wrote: But hey, as long as the Linden Hills enlightened can listen to their jzz, man, in a smoke-free environment twice a month, that's all that matters, right? The smaller, locally-owned, mom and pop bars where blue-collar working

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2005-10-19 Thread David Strand
I also think the redevelopment of the Schubert Theater into the center for Dance performance, theater and the Saint Paul Chamber Orchestra's Minneapolis location will help lighten up and enliven the area alot. I don't dislike Olive Garden but I'm not going to lose any sleep over losing one chain

Re: [Mpls] RE: Another DT restaurant closes

2005-10-19 Thread Steve Nelson
Before blaming the smoking ban I would look to the long term ecomonic decision made by the current administration and the fact that they have literally drained the most of the middle class wealth. How many meals a day do the wealthy eat? I think the term fat cat refers to their bank accounts

RE: [Mpls] RE: Another DT restaurant closes

2005-10-19 Thread Michael Atherton
Steve Nelson wrote: Before blaming the smoking ban I would look to the long term economic decision made by the current administration and the fact that they have literally drained the most of the middle class wealth. How many meals a day do the wealthy eat? I think the term fat cat

Re: [Mpls] RE: Another DT restaurant closes

2005-10-19 Thread Michael Thompson
- Original Message - From: Becca Vargo Daggett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mpls@mnforum.org Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2005 7:42 PM Subject: Re: [Mpls] RE: Another DT restaurant closes I'm generally sorry for the bars that are negatively affected by the broader societal shift away from

Re: [Mpls] RE: Another DT restaurant closes

2005-10-19 Thread Andy Driscoll
What claptrap. Restaurants are opening and closing all the time and we have more restaurants than we could possibly support in this metro area in any event. For most good restaurants, the smoking ban has boosted business. Alcohol sales dip when smokers can't smoke. Alcohol sales slumps in bars is