>>>>> "MN" == Michael Hohmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
MN> Dorothy J. TItus states, in part... >> ...And now Center Point Energy proposes a gas rate hike that >> will raise residential gas costs by 4% while raising business costs >> by only 1%. And this comes on top of gas prices that are reported >> to be between 30-50% higher than last year. MN> The lower industrial rates for gas are for 'interruptible MN> service' customers that have dual-fuel capability. They get a MN> low rate when plenty of gas and pipe capacity is available, MN> and get shut-off when residential customers require all they MN> can get, in really cold weather. The industrial customers MN> have oil-burning and/or coal capability, for when the gas MN> supplier curtails their 'interruptible' gas supplies. Some MN> industrial customers may have a high-priority gas need and MN> purchase 'firm' supplies, paying a much higher price. And the MN> residential 'firm' customers pay for that level of service MN> too-- they aren't ever curtailed. MN> The natural gas itself is a commodity and the cost flows MN> through directly to the customers... its the MN> fixed-distribution costs that vary by customer class, and MN> according to the level of service provided (firm or MN> interruptible). It's the distribution costs that would be MN> increased by Center Point-- their operating costs. The MN> commodity cost of natural gas has been rising in recent years MN> due to increased demand and tighter supplies... just like oil MN> costs, gasoline and diesel. >From reading the stuff CenterPoint has sent out, I wasn't so sure about this. They recoup their costs through a mixture of fixed price + per-therm charges. I don't think that it's entirely obvious to decide which is which. It may seem that way, but accounting is at least as complex as statistics, and we all know what they say about THAT branch of mathematics! Also, note that curtailable services aren't goign to be cheaper PER SE than firm --- indeed they must involve some logic that is not going to be free, and so must be at least as expensive as the kind of simple flow-through that's all you need for firm delivery. The savings on curtailable supply is NOT in the delivery cost, it's in being able to manage the commodity cost. Another concern I have about this is that the revision in pricing will tend to deter conservation (since a higher proportion of the price will be paid whether one uses the commodity or not). Is that really a policy we want right now? Especially when the nation as a whole is trying to clean up the atmosphere by substituting more and more natural gas for coal? Also, I fear that we'll all REALLY take it in the neck after CenterPoint has moved more of its charges into fixed fees, and then the per-therm rate skyrockets again.... -- Robert P. Goldman ECCO [EMAIL PROTECTED] REMINDERS: 1. Think a member has violated the rules? Email the list manager at [EMAIL PROTECTED] before continuing it on the list. 2. Don't feed the troll! Ignore obvious flame-bait. For state and national discussions see: http://e-democracy.org/discuss.html For external forums, see: http://e-democracy.org/mninteract ________________________________ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A City-focused Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Un-subscribe, etc. at: http://e-democracy.org/mpls