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I'm sure that the reappointment of Chief Olson will be a polarizing event.
Many Council Members will feel that it's just not worth opposing the Mayor.
It takes a certain courage
For the inveterate scorekeepers in the upcoming municipal election
season, the Sixth Ward in Minneapolis promises much entertainment. There
are already five declared candidates: Shada Byobe-Hammond, Jim Graham,
Dean Kallenbach, Barb Lickness, and Jonathan Palmer.The year is young -
there could be
Thursday, during daylight hours, an MTC bus driver was severely beaten by
a young man in south Minneapolis. Television carried the story (thank
you WCCO) and KNOW ran a 15-second sound bite on the arrest. But our
wonderful Star Tribune carried not even one word. Doesn't that just make
one
Kare(less) 11 didn't cover it either. Not a word.
This may be one of those instances where the news media are trying not to
cover a violent news worthy event because it could be construed as
inflamatory.
The only violent events ever covered for my neighborhood are murders.
Shootings where no
Mr. Ferman -- Would you care to expand on your statement about the "innovation to
MPD - CODEFOR..."? I fear that we must inhabit very different universes.
Jenny Heiser
Minneapolis
Ward 6-8
ferma001 wrote:
Those who find fault with Olson have apparently not read Minneapolis
police history.
David,
I believe what you are proposing with regard to the election of delegates to the Mpls
DFL City Convention requires a constitutional ammendment to theM
pls DFL Constitution. I'd start by getting a copy of the constitution from the
chair of the Mpls DFL.
Each election cycle the
Yes - anyone who lived through the Stenvig era is from a different
universe than those who are complaining about the current police problems.
If there were a Richter scale of police brutallity the force during the
Stenvig era was a "7.5" and what we have now is a "2.0" and that takes
into account
Dennis Hill's response is essentially correct: the change that David
Brauer suggests would take an amendment to the Minneapolis DFL Party's
constitution. There are three ways to go about proposing such an amendment:
First, through the existing Constitution Commission, which is
Jack Ferman raises the issue of why some TV stations covered a
"serious beating" of a bus driver and the Star Tribune didn't. First,
although getten beaten isn't fun, the seriousness of this one is
debatable. According to TV, the driver was treated and released at
the hospital for bruising.
I think Mr. McMartin is too kind to the current police action scale. Many of
us remember the Stenvig era, and the brutality now is simply more targeted
and protected. Charlie Stenvig was a blowhard, but the police culture has
softened little, especially in Minneapolis. Frankly, even when I was
Are you saying it's OK to bruise a bus driver as long as you don't smack his
head hard enough to give him a concussion? I certainly hope riders
assaulting the driver is not a commonplace occurrence on Minneapolis buses.
If a reporter gets shoved, we hear about it for weeks, but the driver went
So Olson is better than Charlie Stenvig. In relative terms that is a weak
endorsement for Olson. Anyone who returns phone calls, doesn't appoint
relatives to ghost jobs, and doesn't use a blackjack is better than
Charlie Stenvig.
In is on Olson's watch that we have seen the tremendous public
Please remember to sign your posts with your real name, and neighborhood.
Although real names are often transmitted in the "from" field, the rule is
mostly in place so people consciously "own" their posts when they are done
writing. The neighborhood (or city if not from Minneapolis) component
Forward on behalf of list member Barbara Daenzer:
I rode the bus this morning with a producer from WCCO. They received the
tape of the beating just before the news was on. I believe they were the
only station that received the tape. I don't think the stations that didn't
report it were leaving
oops! didn't mean to send the last transmission at
that time and without signing it. I had more to say
but maybe I ought to quit while I'm ahead. Some of you
may know that i conduct my campaign from libray
computers and i just had one freeze up on me and i
lost a whole nother screed. "Whew!" I
Steve said (although I think these are the words of the Strib and not
Steve's):
"We rarely report routine beatings of anyone, much less drivers, and if we
did, the newspaper would have room for little else."
The fact that "routine beating" is actually a phrase we use and then say we
don't have
Tim -- Thanks for commenting on the posts of Rich McMartin and Jack
Ferman. What really scares me is that there are probably many others in
Minneapolis who would echo their sentiments. And the sad truth is that I
might have been among them if it hadn't been for my move this past year
to the
This afternoon, the Hennepin County Attorney's Office charged Adrian Louis
Lattin, age 20, of Minneapolis, with one felony count of Unlawful
Interference with Transit Operator (using force or violence). He is in
custody, with bail set at $20,000. First appearance in Hennepin County
District
Richard Chandler states: "Are you saying it's OK to bruise a bus
driver as long as you don't smack his head hard enough to give him a
concussion? I certainly hope riders assaulting the driver is not a
commonplace occurrence on Minneapolis buses."
Of course I'm not saying it's okay to assault
Steve Brandt posted:
"Beyond that, it was a threshold decision by the paper. I'm told by
people who monitor these things that drivers get attacked monthly. We
rarely report routine beatings of anyone, much less drivers, and if we
did, the newspaper would have room for little else."
I covered the police department in the late 70s and early 80s and I can tell
you these are not new issues. But that makes it even more important that we
realize that several decades of wrongs have to be made right...right now.
(BTW: If I remember right Stenvig was a ranking member of the
I think you're jumping to conclusions here -- look at the time this
happened, the time it appeared on police paperwork, and the printing
deadline for the newspaper. Several of the other TV Radio news shows
didn't have it last night, either. But they all have it today, including
the arrest
I drove for the MTC, now renamed bus company, from 79 through mid-85. During that
time there were numerous assaults on drivers by passengers who were whacked out on
alcohol, drugs, or rage. On the 5 line alone (Chicago Av.)one
driver was knifed, one thrown off his own bus at gunpoint, one
As a practical matter - unless some delegate can convince a majority of
delegates that the caucus system is sorely broken I doubt constitutional
fiddling would get to first base. This years city convention has much
business to conduct and given the pre-convention rhetoric going around it
Tim -- Thanks for commenting on the posts of Rich McMartin and Jack
Ferman. What really scares me is that there are probably many others in
Minneapolis who would echo their sentiments.
So what is the problem - if no one likes Olson and he is dumped what
makes anyone confident the next chief
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