Re: [Mpls] Hennepin County Rolls Back Smoking Ban
It better not be. I hope this spells the end of Peter McLaughlin's political career. This is among the most blatant pieces of undue influence I've ever witnessed all by a few old DFL cronies like John Derus and Lou DeMars to the detriment of the public interest and the public health. The hubris and arrogance is appalling. McLaughlin no longer deserves to be in office. And I hope any restaurant that caves in and allows smoking goes down not up in flames. Andy Driscoll Saint Paul -- on 12/13/05 3:42 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Will Minneapolis be next on the pretext we must wait for a statewide ban? Here is the link: _http://www.startribune.com/stories/462/5780454.html_ (http://www.startribune.com/stories/462/5780454.html) Bill Dooley Kenny REMINDERS: 1. Be civil! Please read the NEW RULES at http://www.e-democracy.org/rules. If you think a member is in violation, contact the list manager at [EMAIL PROTECTED] before continuing it on the list. 2. Don't feed the troll! Ignore obvious flame-bait. For state and national discussions see: http://e-democracy.org/discuss.html For external forums, see: http://e-democracy.org/mninteract Minneapolis Issues Forum - A Civil City-focused Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: mailto:mpls@mnforum.org Subscribe, Un-subscribe, etc. at: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
RE: [Mpls] Hennepin County Rolls Back Smoking Ban
Andy writes: I hope this spells the end of Peter McLaughlin's political career. Don't know how it will play out politically, but it gives more ammo to a potential opponent who is anti-stadium and pro-smoking ban. The name Gary Schiff comes to mind. Any others lining up? The 2006 political season is here. David Brauer Kingfield REMINDERS: 1. Be civil! Please read the NEW RULES at http://www.e-democracy.org/rules. If you think a member is in violation, contact the list manager at [EMAIL PROTECTED] before continuing it on the list. 2. Don't feed the troll! Ignore obvious flame-bait. For state and national discussions see: http://e-democracy.org/discuss.html For external forums, see: http://e-democracy.org/mninteract Minneapolis Issues Forum - A Civil City-focused Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: mailto:mpls@mnforum.org Subscribe, Un-subscribe, etc. at: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
Re: [Mpls] Hennepin County Rolls Back Smoking Ban
On 12/13/05, Andy Driscoll [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I hope this spells the end of Peter McLaughlin's political career. Oh, I think it will be. One of the reasons cited for Peter's huge loss to RT was his flip flopping on this very issue. You would think that would tell him that maybe people really do care about this issue and it would be prudent to listen to them. Perhaps he should use some of that bar money he received and get his eyes and his ears checked. This was an easy one to see, and the people were speaking pretty loudly as well... Steve Peterson Hopkins (works downtown) REMINDERS: 1. Be civil! Please read the NEW RULES at http://www.e-democracy.org/rules. If you think a member is in violation, contact the list manager at [EMAIL PROTECTED] before continuing it on the list. 2. Don't feed the troll! Ignore obvious flame-bait. For state and national discussions see: http://e-democracy.org/discuss.html For external forums, see: http://e-democracy.org/mninteract Minneapolis Issues Forum - A Civil City-focused Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: mailto:mpls@mnforum.org Subscribe, Un-subscribe, etc. at: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
Re: [Mpls] Hennepin County Rolls Back Smoking Ban
On 12/13/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip I came to recognize during the mayoral race that Peter McLaughlin was a man of substance and integrity, this confirms it. Hmmm... Is this the same Peter McLaughlin who never distanced himself from the blatently false attack ads brought out by the Police Federation meant to play on people's fear? Is this the same Peter McLaughlin who took money from mostly northern Hennepin County based bars interested in a repeal of the smoking ban, changed his vote, annd called it a coincidence? The same Peter McLaughlin who critisized RT Rybak for accepting contrbutions from individuals with ties to companies who do business with the City of Minneapolis, yet he himself took money from the companies themselves? The same Peter McLaughlin who's personal integrity has been compromised a few times by affairs and divorces, yet decided to open a personal attack on RT by questioning him about sending his children to private school? Substance and Integrity? As the character Inigo Montoya so aptly put it in the movie Princess Bride: I do not think that means what you think it means. Steve Peterson Hopkins (Works Downtown) REMINDERS: 1. Be civil! Please read the NEW RULES at http://www.e-democracy.org/rules. If you think a member is in violation, contact the list manager at [EMAIL PROTECTED] before continuing it on the list. 2. Don't feed the troll! Ignore obvious flame-bait. For state and national discussions see: http://e-democracy.org/discuss.html For external forums, see: http://e-democracy.org/mninteract Minneapolis Issues Forum - A Civil City-focused Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: mailto:mpls@mnforum.org Subscribe, Un-subscribe, etc. at: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
Re: [Mpls] Hennepin County Rolls Back Smoking Ban
Andy Driscoll wrote: I hope any restaurant that caves in and allows smoking goes down -not up -in flames. Let's just keep the misinformation flowing! From what the articles says the ordinance covers mostly traditional bars and some bars attached to restaurants, NOT restaurants. Can you still order drinks in the restaurant without going into the bar? I hope that now the Minneapolis City Council will consider allowing its citizens a choice as well. Michael Atherton Prospect Park REMINDERS: 1. Be civil! Please read the NEW RULES at http://www.e-democracy.org/rules. If you think a member is in violation, contact the list manager at [EMAIL PROTECTED] before continuing it on the list. 2. Don't feed the troll! Ignore obvious flame-bait. For state and national discussions see: http://e-democracy.org/discuss.html For external forums, see: http://e-democracy.org/mninteract Minneapolis Issues Forum - A Civil City-focused Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: mailto:mpls@mnforum.org Subscribe, Un-subscribe, etc. at: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
Re: [Mpls] Hennepin County Rolls Back Smoking Ban
Finally something to be encouraged about in regards to local government. Common sense that we all can live with. This vote is a victory for everyone.. and for freedom. Everybody wins with this vote, even those who so zealously tried to give away to the government their free will for the illusion of safety. Hopefully the Minneapolis city council will realize that freedom and compromise is a more fundamental democratic ideal than reactionary social engineering that hurts everyone. I doubt it will happen, but we can all have hope. Mike Thompson Windom - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mpls@mnforum.org Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2005 3:42 PM Subject: [Mpls] Hennepin County Rolls Back Smoking Ban Will Minneapolis be next on the pretext we must wait for a statewide ban? Here is the link: _http://www.startribune.com/stories/462/5780454.html_ (http://www.startribune.com/stories/462/5780454.html) Bill Dooley Kenny REMINDERS: 1. Be civil! Please read the NEW RULES at http://www.e-democracy.org/rules. If you think a member is in violation, contact the list manager at [EMAIL PROTECTED] before continuing it on the list. 2. Don't feed the troll! Ignore obvious flame-bait. For state and national discussions see: http://e-democracy.org/discuss.html For external forums, see: http://e-democracy.org/mninteract Minneapolis Issues Forum - A Civil City-focused Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: mailto:mpls@mnforum.org Subscribe, Un-subscribe, etc. at: http://e-democracy.org/mpls REMINDERS: 1. Be civil! Please read the NEW RULES at http://www.e-democracy.org/rules. If you think a member is in violation, contact the list manager at [EMAIL PROTECTED] before continuing it on the list. 2. Don't feed the troll! Ignore obvious flame-bait. For state and national discussions see: http://e-democracy.org/discuss.html For external forums, see: http://e-democracy.org/mninteract Minneapolis Issues Forum - A Civil City-focused Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: mailto:mpls@mnforum.org Subscribe, Un-subscribe, etc. at: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
