Re: [Mpls] Zimmermann bribery allegations a frame-up (Letter to Star-Tribune)

2005-09-11 Thread Socialist2001
Michael Atherton writes Not that I'm adverse to conspiracy theories (I have a number of my own, including being the subject of a campaign contribution sting ;-) and not that it doesn't make me a little queasy defending the FBI, but has anyone considered that if the FBI had rock solid evidence

RE: [Mpls] Zimmermann bribery allegations a frame-up (Letter toStar-Tribune)

2005-09-11 Thread Michael Atherton
Doug Mann responds: The FBI clearly stepped over the line. The FBI's raid and press releases clearly serve political ends. And you evidence is? And the FBI ha a long history of carrying out investigations that serve political, and not legitimate law enforcement aims, such as the

RE: [Mpls] Zimmermann bribery allegations a frame-up

2005-09-11 Thread Brandon Lacy
, but not likely. -Brandon Lacy Campos -Loring Park Writer, Poet, Playwright, and Rabble Rouser Lavender Greens: www.lavendergreens.org YouthAction: www.youthaction.net From: Michael Atherton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mpls@mnforum.org Subject: RE: [Mpls] Zimmermann bribery allegations

Re: [Mpls] Zimmermann bribery allegations a frame-up (Letter toStar-Tribune)

2005-09-11 Thread Gary Hoover
In politics, nothing happens by chance. If something happens, then you can bet that it was planned that way. (Franklin Delano Roosevelt) The one who derives advantage from a crime is the one most likely to have committed it. (Seneca) My belief is that if a DFL or Republican candidate did

Re: [Mpls] Zimmermann bribery allegations a frame-up (LettertoStar-Tribune)

2005-09-11 Thread George Janssen
- Original Message - From: wmmarks [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: George Janssen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2005 2:01 PM Subject: Re: [Mpls] Zimmermann bribery allegations a frame-up (LettertoStar-Tribune) George Janssen wrote: Even the most politically naïve

Re: [Mpls] Zimmermann bribery allegations a frame-up (LettertoStar-Tribune)

2005-09-11 Thread wmmarks
My apologies to Lilligren and all you listers. I sent this note off list and in a spirit of irony (maybe not irony. This is a day where the words are hiding in the bushes.) WMarks, Central George Janssen wrote: Even the most politically naïve amongst us should realize the execution of a

RE: [Mpls] Zimmermann bribery allegations a frame-up (Letter toStar-Tribune)

2005-09-11 Thread Anderson Turpin
Doug Mann wrote: I suspect that all DFL candidates seeking reelection to the city council have taken money from business owners who apply for permits, zoning variances, etc. You can't run a business without being subjected to regulations that might require action by the city council. The

Re: [Mpls] Zimmermann bribery allegations a frame-up (LettertoStar-Tribune)

2005-09-11 Thread David Weinlick
I continue to be amazed by conspiracy theories that revolve around the all powerful DFL. (Of course, I am also amazed when I hear almost as many stories of the party's demise.) The DFL party has a substantial foothold in Minneapolis politics because people vote for DFL candidates. That

RE: [Mpls] Zimmermann bribery allegations a frame-up (LettertoStar-Tribune)

2005-09-11 Thread Michael Atherton
Mark Anderson wrote: I think the root problem is the power the council members have over individual developers and building trade workers. The best thing we could do is simply to deregulate these occupations, which would eliminate the council members' temptations, as well as greatly

RE: [Mpls] Zimmermann bribery allegations a frame-up (Letter toStar-Tribune)

2005-09-11 Thread Jason C Stone
Or cap campaign spending and the limit carryovers from year to year. Jason Stone Diamond Lake --- Anderson Turpin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think the root problem is the power the council members have over individual developers and building trade workers. The best thing we could do is

Re: [Mpls] Zimmermann bribery allegations a frame-up (LettertoStar-Tribune)

2005-09-11 Thread Rick Mons
On Sep 11, 2005, at 1:45 PM, George Janssen wrote: Think about it fellow list members. What entity in the city of Minneapolis is that powerful that they can suggest to the FBI when to execute a search warrant and go public on the investigation of a public servant or conversely, can

Re: [Mpls] Zimmermann bribery allegations a frame-up (LettertoStar-Tribune)

2005-09-11 Thread Andy Driscoll
Thanks to white flight throughout the last half of the 20th Century, isolation from core city issues has created more Republicans for the suburbs. More Democrats, etc., for the city proper. More Democrats have been willing to live in a racially integrated city (such as it is) than have

Re: [Mpls] Zimmermann bribery allegations a frame-up

2005-09-11 Thread Gary Hoover
DB wrote: Three words: Brian. Herron. DFLer. C'mon, folks, let's let this one play out. I think a lot of biases on all sides are showing. There aren't enough facts to draw such severe conclusions yet. Ohgood points. My head has not caught up with my heart yet. The allegation against

RE: [Mpls] Zimmermann bribery allegations a frame-up

2005-09-10 Thread Michael Atherton
Doug Mann wrote: Dean Zimmermann is the target of a politically motivated frame-up and smear campaign being carried out at taxpayers expense. Consider: The timing of the sensational raid on Dean Zimmermann's house to seize documents that are already in the public domain (at a Hennepin