On Saturday 13 October 2012 10:58:33 Martin Schreiber wrote:
On Saturday 13 October 2012 10:48:29 Ivanko B wrote:
In which form/datamodule event can SQL propery of dataset be
reassigned so that it affects query results (ready in OnLoaded) ?
(although usually me use dataset.BeforeOpen for
In which form/datamodule event can SQL propery of dataset be
reassigned so that it affects query results (ready in OnLoaded) ?
(although usually me use dataset.BeforeOpen for this purpose)
Probably oncreate because it is before loaded() calls.
Success?
Once me use it ( there're many
1) Regular form/datamodule
- sequence of oncreate(), afterconstruction(), oncreated(),
onloaded(), oneventloopstarted() since which event widgets become
ready since which event datasets become ready since which event
datasets become ready for setting their SQL property
2) 1 for inherited in
And for the current state:
inherited oncreate() - regular oncreate(), inherited onloaded() -
regular onloaded(), regular ondestroy() - inherited ondestroy so on
- that's full name match in regular-vs-parent sequencing, correct ?
On Saturday 13 October 2012 08:17:48 Ivanko B wrote:
And for the current state:
inherited oncreate() - regular oncreate(), inherited onloaded() -
regular onloaded(), regular ondestroy() - inherited ondestroy so on
- that's full name match in regular-vs-parent sequencing, correct ?
There is
On Saturday 13 October 2012 08:12:32 Ivanko B wrote:
1) Regular form/datamodule
- sequence of oncreate(), afterconstruction(), oncreated(),
onloaded(), oneventloopstarted() since which event widgets become
ready since which event datasets become ready since which event
datasets become
So in onloaded all components should be operable
===
It means that to have all dataset data ready me should switch back to
OnLoaded() [a week ago me switched to OnCreated() ], correct ? Both
on regular inherited forms data modules ?
Is oncreated() called before Loaded() ?
2012/10/13,
It seems me,ve got it onloaded is designed to be universal since
doesnt depend on loading state,correct?
2012/10/13, Martin Schreiber mse00...@gmail.com:
On Saturday 13 October 2012 08:58:18 Ivanko B wrote:
So in onloaded all components should be operable
===
It means that to have all
On Saturday 13 October 2012 09:35:35 Ivanko B wrote:
It seems me,ve got it onloaded is designed to be universal since
doesnt depend on loading state,correct?
It depends on loading state but it is designed so, that it is called after all
internal loading and initialisation has been made (I
In which form/datamodule event can SQL propery of dataset be
reassigned so that it affects query results (ready in OnLoaded) ?
(although usually me use dataset.BeforeOpen for this purpose)
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On Saturday 13 October 2012 10:48:29 Ivanko B wrote:
In which form/datamodule event can SQL propery of dataset be
reassigned so that it affects query results (ready in OnLoaded) ?
(although usually me use dataset.BeforeOpen for this purpose)
Probably oncreate because it is before loaded()
Nobody but You knows that clearly !
And what does the contruction stage mean ?
Can all these IMPORTANT issues be described in the REDAME in details ?
Yes, please do. :-)
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On Friday 12 October 2012 12:06:50 Ivanko B wrote:
Nobody but You knows that clearly !
And what does the contruction stage mean ?
I don't understand.
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When is aftrecontruction ? What's components state ?
Nobody but You knows that clearly !
And what does the contruction stage mean ?
I don't understand.
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On Friday 12 October 2012 12:55:02 Ivanko B wrote:
When is aftrecontruction ?
afterconstruction() is a Delphi tobject procedure.
http://docwiki.embarcadero.com/Libraries/XE2/en/System.TObject.AfterConstruction
What's components state ?
???
We need to know:
- when called what's done to regular and inherited widgets
datasets of forms datamodules - streamed, ready to read/write public
protected published properties,...
2012/10/12, Martin Schreiber mse00...@gmail.com:
On Friday 12 October 2012 12:55:02 Ivanko B wrote:
When is
On Friday 12 October 2012 14:27:51 Ivanko B wrote:
We need to know:
- when called what's done to regular and inherited widgets
datasets of forms datamodules - streamed, ready to read/write public
protected published properties,...
Please read the Delphi documentation for streaming of
The info doesn't cover all relations:
oncreate() vs in afterconstruction() ?
loaded() vs afterconstruction() ?
oncreated() vs onloaded() ?
2012/10/12, Martin Schreiber mse00...@gmail.com:
On Friday 12 October 2012 14:27:51 Ivanko B wrote:
We need to know:
- when called what's done to
On Friday 12 October 2012 18:37:23 Ivanko B wrote:
The info doesn't cover all relations:
oncreate() vs in afterconstruction() ?
loaded() vs afterconstruction() ?
oncreated() vs onloaded() ?
I can not write more. What is the concrete problem?
Martin
On Saturday 13 October 2012 07:43:27 Ivanko B wrote:
To know which event to use for particular purpose be sure that's
forever:) Swapping them is quite painful the DELPHI documentation is
unreliable for MSEgui (strictly speaking - it can't be used without
preliminary recheck by You).
As to
On Wednesday 10 October 2012 22:44:26 Ivanko B wrote:
The not reverting FiledDefs issue can also be reproduced on that
testcase.
Steps?
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Has been already reported :
Even if these defs are created manully (w/o consilting by DB) ?
Yes.
In the today's testcase, remove all fielddefs of parent1fo.tmsesqlquery1 -
it won't reflect if its descendant parent2fo.tmsesqlquery1 as well revert
to inherited applied to
On Monday 08 October 2012 20:40:58 Martin Schreiber wrote:
Am 08.10.2012 18:39, schrieb Ivanko B:
No, me had an inactive dataset in Form.OnLoaded. And me suggest to use
OnLoded.
The form is last in a form inheritance chain (no more descendants) but
also inserted as a submodule into a tab
On Monday 17 September 2012 14:49:34 Martin Schreiber wrote:
Hi,
The wrong names of tcustommseform and tmsedatamodule onloaded and oncreate
have been fixed in git master 8da93ce835e3e97cf2d4edec71fe7e31dbe872f0,
what was onloaded before is now oncreate, oncreate becomes onloaded.
More:
On Thursday 11 October 2012 10:59:23 Ivanko B wrote:
Has been already reported :
Even if these defs are created manully (w/o consilting by DB) ?
Yes.
In the today's testcase, remove all fielddefs of parent1fo.tmsesqlquery1 -
it won't reflect if its descendant parent2fo.tmsesqlquery1
oncreated will be called in afterconstruction().
And after OnLoaded ?
Can all these IMPORTANT issues be described in the REDAME in details ?
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On Wednesday 10 October 2012 06:34:36 IvankoB wrote:
Even for inheriting no-descendants form ? Strange.
Testcase please. :-)
Martin
See the attachment where:
procedure tparent2fo.parent2formcreate(const sender: TObject);
begin
showmessage('parent2form''s OnCreate is called'); //
The form is last in a form inheritance chain (no more descendants) but
also inserted as a submodule into a tab page of another form.
The exception occurs in run-time.
The sequence is:
form.oncreate,
Doesn't fire at all if the form is created via Application.CreateForm().
As designed ?
On Tuesday 09 October 2012 16:29:10 IvankoB wrote:
The sequence is:
form.oncreate,
Doesn't fire at all if the form is created via Application.CreateForm().
As designed ?
Works for me.
Martin
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Even if botn OnCreate OnCreated are assigned ?
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On Tuesday 09 October 2012 21:18:12 Ivanko B wrote:
Even if botn OnCreate OnCreated are assigned ?
Yes.
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Even for inheriting no-descendants form ? Strange.
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On Tuesday 09 October 2012 22:28:24 Ivanko B wrote:
Even for inheriting no-descendants form ? Strange.
Testcase please. :-)
Martin
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On Tuesday 18 September 2012 12:28:12 Martin Schreiber wrote:
On Tuesday 18 September 2012 12:10:52 news.gmane.org wrote:
That's me can rely on it (OnLoaded then OnCreate ..) in my programs,
correct ?
Not in submodules. Submodules onloaded is called after on create.
That's if we
It is how Delphi streaming works.
I found a solution where oncreate is called before onloaded independent
of
inline and globalloading state. git master
Now we always have OnLoaded then OnCreate, correct ? Great if so :)
On Monday 08 October 2012 13:33:11 IvankoB wrote:
It is how Delphi streaming works.
I found a solution where oncreate is called before onloaded independent
of
inline and globalloading state. git master
Now we always have OnLoaded then OnCreate, correct ? Great if so :)
The opposite.
Now we always have OnLoaded then OnCreate, correct ? Great if so :)
The opposite. :-)
First oncreate after all streamed componets are created but before
loaded()
has been caled, onloaded will be called later from loaded() procedure.
God Thanx, me have been late to make the things hardly
Now we always have OnLoaded then OnCreate, correct ? Great if so :)
The opposite. :-)
Not 100% fixed. Datasets set to active in design time are only open since
OnCreate.
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On Monday 08 October 2012 15:12:15 IvankoB wrote:
Which oncreate? The oncreate of the owner of the dataset? The dataset
should
still be in csLoading state in oncreate of the form/datamodule.
Design_set_to_active_Dataset.edit is only available (allowed since the
dataset gets open) within
On Monday 08 October 2012 15:12:15 IvankoB wrote:
Which oncreate? The oncreate of the owner of the dataset? The dataset
should
still be in csLoading state in oncreate of the form/datamodule.
Design_set_to_active_Dataset.edit is only available (allowed since the
dataset gets open) within
May be thre're corrupted *_MFM.PAS files after OnCreate-OnLoaded swicth...
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Hallo Martin,
Du schriebst am Mon, 08 Oct 2012 19:40:58 +0100:
The sequence is:
form.oncreate, form.onloaded, dataset.loaded(), form.oncreated.
^^^ ^on...? ^^^?
Seriously, _two_ calls to form.oncreate and none to
dataset.oncreate, or did
introduce a new event
form.oncreate_d_?
Yes, it's a new event :)
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On Tuesday 09 October 2012 00:27:37 Sieghard wrote:
Hallo Martin,
Du schriebst am Mon, 08 Oct 2012 19:40:58 +0100:
The sequence is:
form.oncreate, form.onloaded, dataset.loaded(), form.oncreated.
^^^ ^on...? ^^^?
Seriously, _two_
Normally yes, if begingloballoading() has been called onloaded fires in
notifygloballoading().
That's me can rely on it (OnLoaded then OnCreate ..) in my programs,
correct ?
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On Tuesday 18 September 2012 11:43:32 news.gmane.org wrote:
Normally yes, if begingloballoading() has been called onloaded fires in
notifygloballoading().
That's me can rely on it (OnLoaded then OnCreate ..) in my programs,
correct ?
Not in submodules. Submodules onloaded is called after
That's me can rely on it (OnLoaded then OnCreate ..) in my programs,
correct ?
Not in submodules. Submodules onloaded is called after on create.
That's if we inserted a form as a submodule then meaning of these handlers
of the form reverses, correct ? Messy :) If yes, then to the
That's if we inserted a form as a submodule then meaning of these
handlers
of the form reverses, correct ? Messy :) If yes, then to the
README.hints :)
It is how Delphi streaming works.
Just checked tested.
For parent code accessing props of loaded components on parent form but
called
Hi,
The wrong names of tcustommseform and tmsedatamodule onloaded and
oncreate
have been fixed in git master 8da93ce835e3e97cf2d4edec71fe7e31dbe872f0,
what
was onloaded before is now oncreate, oncreate becomes onloaded.
Does it mean that OnCreate is executed later than OnLoaded since
On Tuesday 18 September 2012 06:50:19 news.gmane.org wrote:
Hi,
The wrong names of tcustommseform and tmsedatamodule onloaded and
oncreate
have been fixed in git master 8da93ce835e3e97cf2d4edec71fe7e31dbe872f0,
what
was onloaded before is now oncreate, oncreate becomes onloaded.
Does
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