Black boxes (Was Re: philosophical view of emulation vs real thing)

1999-07-15 Thread Maurizio
Take some black boxes. Give the same imput to all the boxes. Watch the outputs. If the output is the same for all the boxes, the boxes are identical regardless what there is inside each one. Ciao! Maurizio Morandi a.k.a MxM Softworks on Msx $ IN MSX WE TRUST $ MSX

Re: OPLL emulation (was: AW: philosophical view of emulation vs real thing)

1999-07-15 Thread Pablo Vasques Bravo-Villalba
Tristan wrote: This is only partly true. First, the OPL chip used on ADLIBs is not called OPL1. Second, AFAIK that OPL is not equal to the OPLL used on OPL1 is contained inside the OPL2 used by AdLib cards. The OPL1 part of OPL2 chips is register-compatible with OPL1 chips and delivers exactly

SCC Cartridge

1999-07-15 Thread RJ
Hi, I'm looking for a Konami with SCC. Anyone that can help me TIA, RJ

Re: SCC Cartridge

1999-07-15 Thread Richard Gerrits
>> Hi, I'm looking for a Konami with SCC. Anyone that can help me TIA, RJ You're not alone. Greetings Richard MSX Mailinglist. To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and put in the body (not subject) "unsubscribe msx [EMAIL PROTECTED]" (without the quotes :-) Problems?

Re: FDC (was: UZIX DOS2)

1999-07-15 Thread Alex Wulms
] Is Wavy supported by FastCopy? Yes. See my homepage for the drivers. Kind regards, Alex Wulms -- Alex Wulms/XelaSoft - MSX of anders NIX - Linux 4 ever See my homepage for info on the *** XSA *** format http://www.inter.nl.net/users/A.P.Wulms MSX Mailinglist. To unsubscribe, send an

Re: OPLL emulation (was: AW: philosophical view of emulation vs real thing)

1999-07-15 Thread Alex Wulms
] Tristan wrote: ] This is only partly true. First, the OPL chip used on ADLIBs is not ] called OPL1. Second, AFAIK that OPL is not equal to the OPLL used on ] ] OPL1 is contained inside the OPL2 used by AdLib cards. The ] OPL1 part of OPL2 chips is register-compatible with OPL1 ] chips and

Re: AW: philosophical view of emulation vs real thing

1999-07-15 Thread AkA DanSHakU
Coen van der Geest wrote: Hi there, But if I run an MSX1 game on BrMSX, using a video card with TV-out and an MSX joystick connected to the PC, and I hide the PC itself from sight, can you tell the difference with a real MSX1? Did I hear Turing Test? *grin* (OK, someone already used

Re: OPLL emulation (was: AW: philosophical view of emulation vs real thing)

1999-07-15 Thread AkA DanSHakU
Tristan wrote: Each and every ad-lib compatible soundcard can emulate FM Pac and FM-part of music module, since the ad-lib contains the OPL1 FM-Chip. Each sound blaster compatible soundcard can emulate FM Pac, FM-part of music module and ADPCM part of music module, since the

Re: OPLL emulation (was: AW: philosophical view of emulation vs real thing)

1999-07-15 Thread AkA DanSHakU
Wasn't OPLL the LANGUAGE to program the opl in the pac?.. greetz akai [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSX Mailinglist. To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and put in the body (not subject) "unsubscribe msx [EMAIL PROTECTED]" (without the quotes :-) Problems? contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: OPLL emulation (was: AW: philosophical view of emulation vs real thing)

1999-07-15 Thread Pablo Vasques Bravo-Villalba
Alex Wulms wrote: Differences are minor. In general, you can say that the OPL1 is a superset of the OPLL. There are only two functions which the OPLL has but which the OPL1 does not have: Anyway, this was my point. `:) I didn't say that OPL1 couldn't emulate OPLL (just making sure I was not

Re: Black boxes (Was Re: philosophical view of emulation vs real thing)

1999-07-15 Thread AkA DanSHakU
Maurizio wrote: Take some black boxes. Give the same imput to all the boxes. Watch the outputs. If the output is the same for all the boxes, the boxes are identical regardless what there is inside each one. good...now we only need a keyboard, tv-out and tv emulator :) grtz akai

Re: OPLL emulation (was: AW: philosophical view of emulation vs real thing)

1999-07-15 Thread Pablo Vasques Bravo-Villalba
AkA DanSHakU wrote: Wasn't OPLL the LANGUAGE to program the opl in the pac?.. No way! :) It's a soundchip by Yamaha. To program the OPLL you use its sound registers, which are ultimately set by some ML* program. :) You could create a music in Basic, but it's the macrolanguage interpreter (in

Re: OPLL emulation (was: AW: philosophical view of emulation vs real thing)

1999-07-15 Thread AkA DanSHakU
Pablo Vasques Bravo-Villalba wrote: AkA DanSHakU wrote: Wasn't OPLL the LANGUAGE to program the opl in the pac?.. No way! :) It's a soundchip by Yamaha. Ok... my mistake... just got a bit confused... i thought that OPL1 was the chip and OPLL was the BASIC language...sigh...it's been so

Machine Language

1999-07-15 Thread Adriano Camargo Rodrigues da Cunha
Pablo, * machine language. I don't know if this has the same meaning outside Brazil... :) Maybe better saying "assembly language"? :) What we call, in portuguese, "linguagem de maquina" or "linguagem de montagem" or, yet, "linguagem assembly", also erroneous called

Re: Machine Language

1999-07-15 Thread Pablo Vasques Bravo-Villalba
Adriano Camargo Rodrigues da Cunha wrote: Maybe better saying "assembly language"? :) Yeah, perhaps :) That's not what I originally meant, but I'm unsure if I could explain it in english. I remember when I programmed assembly for Apple II I used to call the hex dumps "machine language", and

Re: FDC (was: UZIX DOS2)

1999-07-15 Thread Marco Antonio Simon dal Poz
On Thu, 15 Jul 1999, Alex Wulms wrote: ] Is Wavy supported by FastCopy? Yes. See my homepage for the drivers. Right! Thanks. Could you send us an overview about Wavy FDC? Greetings from Brazil! - Marco Antonio Simon Dal Poz

Re: OPLL emulation (was: AW: philosophical view of emulation vsreal thing)

1999-07-15 Thread Marco Antonio Simon dal Poz
On Thu, 15 Jul 1999, AkA DanSHakU wrote: Second, AFAIK that OPL is not equal to the OPLL used on the FM-PAC (MSX-Music). I know of no way to create the OPLL hardware voices on an OPLx chip, unless there is some way to extracht OPL data for these voices from the OPLL. do a romdump of

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1999-07-15 Thread Alex Wulms
Dear all, Sorry to bother you with this test messages. Just migrated to a new linux distribution and I'm testing my new email setup. Kind regards, Alex Wulms MSX Mailinglist. To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and put in the body (not subject) "unsubscribe msx [EMAIL

Re: OPLL emulation

1999-07-15 Thread Maarten ter Huurne
At 09:24 AM 7/15/99 -0300, you wrote: OPL1 is contained inside the OPL2 used by AdLib cards. The OPL1 part of OPL2 chips is register-compatible with OPL1 chips and delivers exactly the same output. I thought that OPL2 didn't include the ADPCM part. Bye, Maarten MSX

Re: FDC (was: UZIX DOS2)

1999-07-15 Thread Alex Wulms
] On Thu, 15 Jul 1999, Alex Wulms wrote: ] ] ] Is Wavy supported by FastCopy? ] Yes. See my homepage for the drivers. ] ] Right! Thanks. Could you send us an overview about Wavy FDC? Wavy contains the TC8566AF, just like the MSX turbo R. A couple of weeks ago I sent the TC8566AF datasheets

Re: OPLL emulation (was: AW: philosophical view of emulation vs real thing)

1999-07-15 Thread Alex Wulms
] On Thu, 15 Jul 1999, AkA DanSHakU wrote: ] ] Second, AFAIK that OPL is not equal to the OPLL used on ] the FM-PAC (MSX-Music). I know of no way to create the OPLL hardware ] voices on an OPLx chip, unless there is some way to extracht OPL data ] for these voices from the OPLL. ] ]

Re: OPLL emulation (was: AW: philosophical view of emulation vs real thing)

1999-07-15 Thread Alex Wulms
] Alex Wulms wrote: ] Differences are minor. In general, you can say ] that the OPL1 is a superset of the OPLL. There ] are only two functions which the OPLL has but ] which the OPL1 does not have: ] ] Anyway, this was my point. `:) I didn't say that ] OPL1 couldn't emulate OPLL (just making

Re: Machine Language

1999-07-15 Thread Alex Wulms
] Adriano Camargo Rodrigues da Cunha wrote: ] Maybe better saying "assembly language"? :) ] ] Yeah, perhaps :) ] ] That's not what I originally meant, but ] I'm unsure if I could explain it in ] english. ] ] I remember when I programmed assembly for ] Apple II I used to call the hex dumps ]

Re: OPLL emulation (was: AW: philosophical view of emulation vs real thing)

1999-07-15 Thread Tristan
Below, you can find the registersettings needed to reproduce the opll hardware instruments on an OPL1. With thanks to Bernard Lamers and Hans Guijt for this information: Nr Register settingsName Are these extracted from the OPLL chip (they are not in the msx-music rom afaik) or

Re: Machine Language

1999-07-15 Thread Adriano Camargo Rodrigues da Cunha
This is indeed the correct usage of the words machine language and assembly language. It is a fact that a lot of people say machine language when they actually mean assembly language. Most self-proclaimed machine language programmers are actually assembler language programmers. Only real

Re: OPLL emulation

1999-07-15 Thread Leonard Silva de Oliveira
Maarten ter Huurne wrote: At 09:24 AM 7/15/99 -0300, you wrote: OPL1 is contained inside the OPL2 used by AdLib cards. The OPL1 part of OPL2 chips is register-compatible with OPL1 chips and delivers exactly the same output. I thought that OPL2 didn't include the ADPCM part. Bye,