Re: UZIX telnet experiment

2002-04-24 Thread Bas Wijnen

On Wed, Apr 24, 2002 at 03:40:37AM +0200, Tristan wrote:
 Warning. This is *beta* software. There are still plenty bugs so 
 things might go wrong. Also please be kind and use logout to finish 
 your session so another person can login. Do not just disconnect 
 because that will hang the telnet daemon.

Hi,

Very nice to have just been logging in on a MSX computer. I was trying
to write a README file to tell everyone to edit addr.txt and make it
an addressbook, but unfortunately ed seemed to hang, so I had to
disconnect :-( Does telnetd really hang, or does it just wait for a
timeout?

Anyway, I had some problems. I usually use ``cat file'' to create
simple files. But that didn't work with a ``file: file not found''
error. After touching it, it was still not found. So I tried ed, but
that didn't quite work as I hoped (I didn't really expect anything, I
just read the manpage on how it worked)

These are just some points which I think should be fixed. But I want
to say again this is very great, it feels like a real (be it a bit
slow) unix machine (even more because it's MSX and unices have
something with names ending on X ;-) )

One remark about this reply concerning LF/CRLF: The telnet standard
specifies LF should be used as newline. If your client cannot handle
that, then you have a buggy client ;-)

bye,
shevek
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Re: UZIX telnet experiment

2002-04-24 Thread Vincent van Dam

 Anyway, I had some problems. I usually use ``cat file'' to create
 simple files. But that didn't work with a ``file: file not found''
 error. 

cat displays a file, thus uses a file as input, i think you were
confused with 'echo this  file'

Vincent
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Re: UZIX telnet experiment

2002-04-24 Thread David Heremans

On Wed, Apr 24, 2002 at 11:37:19AM +0200, Vincent van Dam wrote:
  Anyway, I had some problems. I usually use ``cat file'' to create
  simple files. But that didn't work with a ``file: file not found''
  error. 
 
 cat displays a file, thus uses a file as input, i think you were
 confused with 'echo this  file'


wrong!
cat puts its inputchannel simply trough to its outputchannel.
If you specify a file(s) it will use the file(s) as its input, otherwise it
will simply use (just as every other 'good' unix program) the std-in.
In an interactive shell this means that cat will read the keyboard and
out it to it's std-out. If std-out is redirected to a file using the ''
rederection command, you can use 
cat  filename
to directly type letters into a file

David

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Re: UZIX telnet experiment

2002-04-24 Thread Adriano Camargo Rodrigues da Cunha

Hi, folks.

Since now I have a power beta tester for UZIX, Tristan, and now that all of 
you know that UZIX rulez a lot, I feel compelled to make things better on 
UZIX.
I'll check carefully the bugs reported about telnet daemon and try to fix 
them. Most of them are caused because I didn't test telnetd under Windows, 
but only under Linux, and it worked fine (no, Shevek, I didn't test ed or 
cat).

 These are just some points which I think should be fixed. But I want
 to say again this is very great, it feels like a real (be it a bit
 slow) unix machine (even more because it's MSX and unices have
 something with names ending on X ;-) )

If Tristan had a TR and 56kbps serial connection, things would be faster. 
But I don't complain. It's great to log into Omega's MSX, far away 
thousands of miles from my home. :)


Adriano Camargo Rodrigues da Cunha ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Diretor Executivo - AL Software  http://www.alsoftware.com.br
http://www.alsoftware.com.br/adrianpage

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Re: UZIX telnet experiment

2002-04-24 Thread Bas Wijnen

On Wed, Apr 24, 2002 at 01:32:57PM +, Adriano Camargo Rodrigues da Cunha wrote:
 Hi, folks.
 
 Since now I have a power beta tester for UZIX, Tristan, and now that all of 
 you know that UZIX rulez a lot, I feel compelled to make things better on 
 UZIX.
 I'll check carefully the bugs reported about telnet daemon and try to fix 
 them. Most of them are caused because I didn't test telnetd under Windows, 
 but only under Linux, and it worked fine (no, Shevek, I didn't test ed or 
 cat).

Hi,

ed seems to give problems, indeed (I would prefer vi anyway...), but
cat worked fine. I catted a text file (how was that made anyway?) from
~guest. The problem seemed to be the  to redirect the output, so that
should be in the shell.

Bye,
shevek
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Re: UZIX telnet experiment

2002-04-24 Thread Eric Boon

Marco Antonio Simon Dal Poz wrote:

 PS: a convertion of CR (or LF) to CR+LF would be better, but it's not
 important, the important is that it WORKS!!!

That's something you should configure in your telnet client,
not in the telnet daemon...

Eric



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Re: UZIX telnet experiment

2002-04-24 Thread Tristan

 ed seems to give problems, indeed (I would prefer vi anyway...), but
 cat worked fine. I catted a text file (how was that made anyway?) from
 ~guest. The problem seemed to be the  to redirect the output, so that
 should be in the shell.

On the console, ed, tee or echo work fine to create a textfile. using 
cat  file to create a textfile should in theory work but SASH doesnt 
support it yet..

On the telnet connection, ed, tee and echo have problems. Echo doesnt 
work because the redirection  to a file isnt handled correctly 
somehow. Tee doesnt work because it doesnt receive the ctrl-d to 
close the file. 

Maybe Adriano can have a look at that..

Greetings

P.S. Bas: UZIX telnetd can't handle termination of processes upon 
disconnect very well yet, it seems. So if you disconnect, your ed 
session will just wait forever, and keep the telnetd busy. Its not 
your fault ;)


Tristan 

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