Re: UZIX telnet experiment
On Wed, Apr 24, 2002 at 03:40:37AM +0200, Tristan wrote: Warning. This is *beta* software. There are still plenty bugs so things might go wrong. Also please be kind and use logout to finish your session so another person can login. Do not just disconnect because that will hang the telnet daemon. Hi, Very nice to have just been logging in on a MSX computer. I was trying to write a README file to tell everyone to edit addr.txt and make it an addressbook, but unfortunately ed seemed to hang, so I had to disconnect :-( Does telnetd really hang, or does it just wait for a timeout? Anyway, I had some problems. I usually use ``cat file'' to create simple files. But that didn't work with a ``file: file not found'' error. After touching it, it was still not found. So I tried ed, but that didn't quite work as I hoped (I didn't really expect anything, I just read the manpage on how it worked) These are just some points which I think should be fixed. But I want to say again this is very great, it feels like a real (be it a bit slow) unix machine (even more because it's MSX and unices have something with names ending on X ;-) ) One remark about this reply concerning LF/CRLF: The telnet standard specifies LF should be used as newline. If your client cannot handle that, then you have a buggy client ;-) bye, shevek -- For info, see http://www.stack.nl/~wynke/MSX/listinfo.html
Re: UZIX telnet experiment
Anyway, I had some problems. I usually use ``cat file'' to create simple files. But that didn't work with a ``file: file not found'' error. cat displays a file, thus uses a file as input, i think you were confused with 'echo this file' Vincent -- For info, see http://www.stack.nl/~wynke/MSX/listinfo.html
Re: UZIX telnet experiment
On Wed, Apr 24, 2002 at 11:37:19AM +0200, Vincent van Dam wrote: Anyway, I had some problems. I usually use ``cat file'' to create simple files. But that didn't work with a ``file: file not found'' error. cat displays a file, thus uses a file as input, i think you were confused with 'echo this file' wrong! cat puts its inputchannel simply trough to its outputchannel. If you specify a file(s) it will use the file(s) as its input, otherwise it will simply use (just as every other 'good' unix program) the std-in. In an interactive shell this means that cat will read the keyboard and out it to it's std-out. If std-out is redirected to a file using the '' rederection command, you can use cat filename to directly type letters into a file David -- For info, see http://www.stack.nl/~wynke/MSX/listinfo.html
Re: UZIX telnet experiment
Hi, folks. Since now I have a power beta tester for UZIX, Tristan, and now that all of you know that UZIX rulez a lot, I feel compelled to make things better on UZIX. I'll check carefully the bugs reported about telnet daemon and try to fix them. Most of them are caused because I didn't test telnetd under Windows, but only under Linux, and it worked fine (no, Shevek, I didn't test ed or cat). These are just some points which I think should be fixed. But I want to say again this is very great, it feels like a real (be it a bit slow) unix machine (even more because it's MSX and unices have something with names ending on X ;-) ) If Tristan had a TR and 56kbps serial connection, things would be faster. But I don't complain. It's great to log into Omega's MSX, far away thousands of miles from my home. :) Adriano Camargo Rodrigues da Cunha ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Diretor Executivo - AL Software http://www.alsoftware.com.br http://www.alsoftware.com.br/adrianpage -- For info, see http://www.stack.nl/~wynke/MSX/listinfo.html
Re: UZIX telnet experiment
On Wed, Apr 24, 2002 at 01:32:57PM +, Adriano Camargo Rodrigues da Cunha wrote: Hi, folks. Since now I have a power beta tester for UZIX, Tristan, and now that all of you know that UZIX rulez a lot, I feel compelled to make things better on UZIX. I'll check carefully the bugs reported about telnet daemon and try to fix them. Most of them are caused because I didn't test telnetd under Windows, but only under Linux, and it worked fine (no, Shevek, I didn't test ed or cat). Hi, ed seems to give problems, indeed (I would prefer vi anyway...), but cat worked fine. I catted a text file (how was that made anyway?) from ~guest. The problem seemed to be the to redirect the output, so that should be in the shell. Bye, shevek -- For info, see http://www.stack.nl/~wynke/MSX/listinfo.html
Re: UZIX telnet experiment
Marco Antonio Simon Dal Poz wrote: PS: a convertion of CR (or LF) to CR+LF would be better, but it's not important, the important is that it WORKS!!! That's something you should configure in your telnet client, not in the telnet daemon... Eric -- For info, see http://www.stack.nl/~wynke/MSX/listinfo.html
Re: UZIX telnet experiment
ed seems to give problems, indeed (I would prefer vi anyway...), but cat worked fine. I catted a text file (how was that made anyway?) from ~guest. The problem seemed to be the to redirect the output, so that should be in the shell. On the console, ed, tee or echo work fine to create a textfile. using cat file to create a textfile should in theory work but SASH doesnt support it yet.. On the telnet connection, ed, tee and echo have problems. Echo doesnt work because the redirection to a file isnt handled correctly somehow. Tee doesnt work because it doesnt receive the ctrl-d to close the file. Maybe Adriano can have a look at that.. Greetings P.S. Bas: UZIX telnetd can't handle termination of processes upon disconnect very well yet, it seems. So if you disconnect, your ed session will just wait forever, and keep the telnetd busy. Its not your fault ;) Tristan -- a.k.a. OmegaMSX Undernet #msx (http://www.undernet.org) FUNET MSX archive maintainer (ftp://ftp.funet.fi/pub/msx) MSX Radio operator (http://www.live365.com/stations/266034) WWW: http://httpd.chello.nl/~t.zondag01 -- For info, see http://www.stack.nl/~wynke/MSX/listinfo.html
Re: UZIX telnet experiment
Two remarks for Windows users: set local echo on and use VT-52 terminal. Adriano Camargo Rodrigues da Cunha ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Diretor Executivo - AL Software http://www.alsoftware.com.br http://www.alsoftware.com.br/adrianpage -- For info, see http://www.stack.nl/~wynke/MSX/listinfo.html
Re: UZIX telnet experiment
Yes, it works! I will copy here what I got. Nice job! For me, it couldn't be better. For small applications, the speed is acceptable, so we can move on! Greetings from Brazil! PS: a convertion of CR (or LF) to CR+LF would be better, but it's not important, the important is that it WORKS!!! --- Marco Antonio Simon Dal Poz http://www.lsi.usp.br/~mdalpoz [EMAIL PROTECTED] old Fords never die, just get better UZIX operating system at (localhost) Kernel 0.2.1 on a MSX uzix login: Password: S ASH (ver. 1.0f) guest@uzix$ -al: No such file or directory guest@uzix$ ./ ../ testje dit_is_een_tes file guest@uzix$ /hom e/guest guest@uzix$ test ls exit guest@uzix$ guest@uzix$ -a: No such file or direc tory guest@uzix$ 512 drwxr-xr-x 2 @25./ 512 drwxr-xr-x 4 @30 ../ 0 -rw-r--r-- 1 @364 testje 0 -rw-r--r-- 1 @375 dit_is_ee n_tes 17-rw-r--r-- 1 @352 file guest@uzix$ guest@uzix$ guest@uzix$ gues t@uzix$ 512 drwxr-xr-x 2 @25./ 512 drwxr-xr-x 4 @30 ../ 0 -rw-r--r-- 1 @364 testje 0 -rw-r--r-- 1 @375 dit_is_een_tes 17 -rw-r--r-- 1 @352 file guest@uzix$ /home/guest guest@uzix$ guest@uzix$ . / ../ user/ guest/ guest@uzix$ PI D TTY STATTIME COMMAND 1 0 Waitfor 00:00:00 init 10 0 Sleep 00:00:00 login 18 0 Ready 00:02:40 telnetd 7 0 Ready 00:17:38 pppd 6 0 Ready 00:00:30 tcpipmo d 21 0 Ready 00:00:00 telnetd 22 0 Sleep 00:00:00 telnetd 23 30 Waitfor 00:00:00 -sh 24 30 Running 00:00:00 ps guest @uzix$ On Wed, 24 Apr 2002, Tristan wrote: Hi people, The webserver is down atm... It didnt keep up with all hits very well, but at least some managed to get the html :) For now, I've loaded telnetd instead of httpd, so you guys can telnet into the MSX and have a look at UZIX. Just use any telnet application and connect to msx.rulez.nl. Use username 'guest' with password 'guest'. There can be only one connection at a time, so try again later if you get a connection refused. When you get in, have a look at the various commands you can try by entering 'ls /bin'. You can see which processes are running with 'ps -a'. Some unix experience is welcome, but there is documentation available via 'man command'. Please do not use 'tee', it will hang because telnetd doesnt pass ctrl-d correctly or something. Warning. This is *beta* software. There are still plenty bugs so things might go wrong. Also please be kind and use logout to finish your session so another person can login. Do not just disconnect because that will hang the telnet daemon. Have fun, Tristan -- a.k.a. OmegaMSX @ Undernet #msx (http://www.undernet.org) FUNET MSX archive maintainer (ftp://ftp.funet.fi/pub/msx) MSX Radio operator (http://www.live365.com/stations/266034) WWW: http://httpd.chello.nl/~t.zondag01 -- For info, see http://www.stack.nl/~wynke/MSX/listinfo.html -- For info, see http://www.stack.nl/~wynke/MSX/listinfo.html
