Re: [Mt-list] Re: MT-List digest, Vol 1 #36 - 2 msgs

2004-07-12 Thread Michael Carl
Hi Ed, Eduard Hovy schrieb: SMT is re-treading the path of older approaches, but now doing things automatically that used to be done by hand: - the initial IBM work recreated word-replacement MT, but learned the replacement rules automatically - Och's and other current SMT is redoing EBMT, but

Re: [Mt-list] Re: MT-List digest, Vol 1 #36 - 2 msgs

2004-07-12 Thread Alon Lavie
Hi all, A few comments on this ongoing discussion: I suspect that the bias that Andy's experience reflects (as expressed in his posed questions) was unintended, but is a natural consequence of the current high-visibility of SMT in the research arena. Particularly in broader (non-MT-specific)

Re: [Mt-list] Re: MT-List digest, Vol 1 #36 - 2 msgs

2004-07-11 Thread Harold Somers
Given the above trend, I think an effective response is to explicitly say in an EBMT paper yes I am doing EBMT but creating the example phrases and their translation by hand; some SMT is creating the [...] the bigger point, though, is: why should one not make comparisons to SMT-style

[Mt-list] Re: MT-List digest, Vol 1 #36 - 2 msgs

2004-07-09 Thread Eduard Hovy
Hello Andy, Date: Thu, 08 Jul 2004 14:28:12 +0100 From: Andy Way [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2. Can anyone envisage a situation where an SMT paper was asked to compare its results against an MT model? More than most other approaches, SMT people tend to ignore previous work in the mistaken belief