Re: [MTT devel] bogus timestamps in database
Sounds good. Thanks, Josh On Jul 22, 2008, at 12:39 PM, Ethan Mallove wrote: I can too. On Tue, Jul/22/2008 12:25:33PM, Jeff Squyres wrote: I can do 3-3:30 today. On Jul 22, 2008, at 10:19 AM, Josh Hursey wrote: I think we were scheduled for talking about MTT today at 1 pm. Something has come up and I can't do it during that time. I can meet from 3 - 3:30 today or tomorrow 10-11:30, 2-3:30. I can also do anytime on Thursday. Sorry for the move. :( -- Josh On Jul 21, 2008, at 1:35 PM, Jeff Squyres wrote: Ok; I'll 3-way call you guys -- no need for a phone bridge. On Jul 21, 2008, at 1:32 PM, Ethan Mallove wrote: 3p works for me. -Ethan On Mon, Jul/21/2008 09:52:21AM, Jeff Squyres wrote: Sorry for the late reply -- how about 3pm today (Monday)? On Jul 18, 2008, at 3:55 PM, Ethan Mallove wrote: I'm basically available except for 2-4p on Friday. -Ethan On Fri, Jul/18/2008 10:02:10AM, Josh Hursey wrote: Yeah it might be good to touch base and see if there are any burning fires that we need to put out. For me it would have to be either next week or most likely the end of August. :( The good news is that I don't have too much on my calendar for next week. I'm available (prefer earlier in the week): M - Anytime T - 12 - 2, 2-4 W - 10 - 11:30, 2 - 4 R - anytime F - not available. -- Josh On Jul 18, 2008, at 9:29 AM, Jeff Squyres wrote: Mebbe we should have a teleconf sometime in the not-distant future and see if we want to prioritize some of the pending MTT work...? On Jul 17, 2008, at 6:39 PM, Ethan Mallove wrote: On Thu, Jul/17/2008 04:35:38PM, Jeff Squyres wrote: Here's a fun report (as of 17 July 2008): http://www.open-mpi.org/mtt/index.php?do_redir=775 Note that two of the rows are in the future. :-) (Absoft has since fixed the problem; ntp accidentally got turned off) Ethan and I talked about this a bit, and then Josh and I talked about it. Posting here to summarize everything: - It seems like a good solution for the moment is for submit.php to examine all the timestamps in a given submit and compare them to now(). Find the timestamp that latest in time, and compute x=latest_timestamp - now(). If x>0, then subtract x from *all* timestamps in the submitted data. Then print a Big Hairy Warning on the client that their time is not coordinated with the server. - Josh thinks that we should have a larger conversation about how to have some values be regulated (e.g., MPI name, test suite name, etc.). I agree -- classic case: some people call it "intel", others call it"intelsuite".They show up differently in the DB. My $0.02 is that we should allow people to call it whatever they want in the .ini file, but then somehow ensure to submit the names all consistently (e.g., ini file has a map of "this ini section is reported as 'intel'"), and if the name is invalid, reject the data from the DB (or maybe put it in "quarrantine" so that it can be cleaned up and put in the main DB)? It's a neccessity that the INI section naming be flexible. E.g., I have intel-32 and intel-64 sections to test 32-bit and 64-bit. Note, there's no way around this because the Perl INI parser we're using does not allow duplicate section names, and also, MTT constructs a scratch tree on the assumption that each section has a unique name. For "database text string regulation", there's also: http://svn.open-mpi.org/trac/mtt/ticket/7 (users should be able to delete or modify results from database) -Ethan -- Jeff Squyres Cisco Systems ___ mtt-devel mailing list mtt-de...@open-mpi.org http://www.open-mpi.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mtt-devel ___ mtt-devel mailing list mtt-de...@open-mpi.org http://www.open-mpi.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mtt-devel -- Jeff Squyres Cisco Systems ___ mtt-devel mailing list mtt-de...@open-mpi.org http://www.open-mpi.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mtt-devel ___ mtt-devel mailing list mtt-de...@open-mpi.org http://www.open-mpi.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mtt-devel ___ mtt-devel mailing list mtt-de...@open-mpi.org http://www.open-mpi.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mtt-devel -- Jeff Squyres Cisco Systems ___ mtt-devel mailing list mtt-de...@open-mpi.org http://www.open-mpi.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mtt-devel ___ mtt-devel mailing list mtt-de...@open-mpi.org http://www.open-mpi.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mtt-devel -- Jeff Squyres Cisco Systems ___ mtt-devel mailing list mtt-de...@open-mpi.org http://www.open-mpi.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mtt-devel ___ mtt-devel mailing list mtt-de...@open-mpi.org http://www.open-mpi.org/mailman/listinf
Re: [MTT devel] bogus timestamps in database
I can too. On Tue, Jul/22/2008 12:25:33PM, Jeff Squyres wrote: > I can do 3-3:30 today. > > > On Jul 22, 2008, at 10:19 AM, Josh Hursey wrote: > >> I think we were scheduled for talking about MTT today at 1 pm. Something >> has come up and I can't do it during that time. I can meet from 3 - 3:30 >> today or tomorrow 10-11:30, 2-3:30. I can also do anytime on Thursday. >> >> Sorry for the move. :( >> >> -- Josh >> >> On Jul 21, 2008, at 1:35 PM, Jeff Squyres wrote: >> >>> Ok; I'll 3-way call you guys -- no need for a phone bridge. >>> >>> On Jul 21, 2008, at 1:32 PM, Ethan Mallove wrote: >>> 3p works for me. -Ethan On Mon, Jul/21/2008 09:52:21AM, Jeff Squyres wrote: > Sorry for the late reply -- how about 3pm today (Monday)? > > > On Jul 18, 2008, at 3:55 PM, Ethan Mallove wrote: > >> I'm basically available except for 2-4p on Friday. >> >> -Ethan >> >> On Fri, Jul/18/2008 10:02:10AM, Josh Hursey wrote: >>> Yeah it might be good to touch base and see if there are any burning >>> fires >>> that we need to put out. >>> >>> For me it would have to be either next week or most likely the end of >>> August. :( The good news is that I don't have too much on my calendar >>> for >>> next week. I'm available (prefer earlier in the week): >>> M - Anytime >>> T - 12 - 2, 2-4 >>> W - 10 - 11:30, 2 - 4 >>> R - anytime >>> F - not available. >>> >>> -- Josh >>> >>> On Jul 18, 2008, at 9:29 AM, Jeff Squyres wrote: >>> Mebbe we should have a teleconf sometime in the not-distant future and see if we want to prioritize some of the pending MTT work...? On Jul 17, 2008, at 6:39 PM, Ethan Mallove wrote: > On Thu, Jul/17/2008 04:35:38PM, Jeff Squyres wrote: >> Here's a fun report (as of 17 July 2008): >> >> http://www.open-mpi.org/mtt/index.php?do_redir=775 >> >> Note that two of the rows are in the future. :-) (Absoft has >> since >> fixed >> the problem; ntp accidentally got turned off) >> >> Ethan and I talked about this a bit, and then Josh and I talked >> about >> it. >> Posting here to summarize everything: >> >> - It seems like a good solution for the moment is for submit.php >> to >> examine >> all the timestamps in a given submit and compare them to now(). >> Find >> the >> timestamp that latest in time, and compute x=latest_timestamp - >> now(). >> If >> x>0, then subtract x from *all* timestamps in the submitted data. >> Then >> print a Big Hairy Warning on the client that their time is not >> coordinated >> with the server. >> >> - Josh thinks that we should have a larger conversation about how >> to >> have >> some values be regulated (e.g., MPI name, test suite name, etc.). >> I >> agree >> -- classic case: some people call it "intel", others call >> it"intelsuite".They show up differently in the DB. My $0.02 is >> that we >> should >> allow >> people to call it whatever they want in the .ini file, but then >> somehow >> ensure to submit the names all consistently (e.g., ini file has a >> map >> of >> "this ini section is reported as 'intel'"), and if the name is >> invalid, >> reject the data from the DB (or maybe put it in "quarrantine" so >> that >> it >> can be cleaned up and put in the main DB)? >> > > It's a neccessity that the INI section naming be flexible. > E.g., I have intel-32 and intel-64 sections to test 32-bit > and 64-bit. Note, there's no way around this because the > Perl INI parser we're using does not allow duplicate section > names, and also, MTT constructs a scratch tree on the > assumption that each section has a unique name. > > For "database text string regulation", there's also: > > http://svn.open-mpi.org/trac/mtt/ticket/7 (users should be > able to delete or modify results from database) > > -Ethan > >> -- >> Jeff Squyres >> Cisco Systems >> >> ___ >> mtt-devel mailing list >> mtt-de...@open-mpi.org >> http://www.open-mpi.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mtt-devel > ___ > mtt-devel mailing list > mtt-de...@open-mpi.org > http://www.open-mpi.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mtt-devel -- Jeff Squyres Cisco Systems >>
Re: [MTT devel] bogus timestamps in database
I can do 3-3:30 today. On Jul 22, 2008, at 10:19 AM, Josh Hursey wrote: I think we were scheduled for talking about MTT today at 1 pm. Something has come up and I can't do it during that time. I can meet from 3 - 3:30 today or tomorrow 10-11:30, 2-3:30. I can also do anytime on Thursday. Sorry for the move. :( -- Josh On Jul 21, 2008, at 1:35 PM, Jeff Squyres wrote: Ok; I'll 3-way call you guys -- no need for a phone bridge. On Jul 21, 2008, at 1:32 PM, Ethan Mallove wrote: 3p works for me. -Ethan On Mon, Jul/21/2008 09:52:21AM, Jeff Squyres wrote: Sorry for the late reply -- how about 3pm today (Monday)? On Jul 18, 2008, at 3:55 PM, Ethan Mallove wrote: I'm basically available except for 2-4p on Friday. -Ethan On Fri, Jul/18/2008 10:02:10AM, Josh Hursey wrote: Yeah it might be good to touch base and see if there are any burning fires that we need to put out. For me it would have to be either next week or most likely the end of August. :( The good news is that I don't have too much on my calendar for next week. I'm available (prefer earlier in the week): M - Anytime T - 12 - 2, 2-4 W - 10 - 11:30, 2 - 4 R - anytime F - not available. -- Josh On Jul 18, 2008, at 9:29 AM, Jeff Squyres wrote: Mebbe we should have a teleconf sometime in the not-distant future and see if we want to prioritize some of the pending MTT work...? On Jul 17, 2008, at 6:39 PM, Ethan Mallove wrote: On Thu, Jul/17/2008 04:35:38PM, Jeff Squyres wrote: Here's a fun report (as of 17 July 2008): http://www.open-mpi.org/mtt/index.php?do_redir=775 Note that two of the rows are in the future. :-) (Absoft has since fixed the problem; ntp accidentally got turned off) Ethan and I talked about this a bit, and then Josh and I talked about it. Posting here to summarize everything: - It seems like a good solution for the moment is for submit.php to examine all the timestamps in a given submit and compare them to now(). Find the timestamp that latest in time, and compute x=latest_timestamp - now(). If x>0, then subtract x from *all* timestamps in the submitted data. Then print a Big Hairy Warning on the client that their time is not coordinated with the server. - Josh thinks that we should have a larger conversation about how to have some values be regulated (e.g., MPI name, test suite name, etc.). I agree -- classic case: some people call it "intel", others call it"intelsuite".They show up differently in the DB. My $0.02 is that we should allow people to call it whatever they want in the .ini file, but then somehow ensure to submit the names all consistently (e.g., ini file has a map of "this ini section is reported as 'intel'"), and if the name is invalid, reject the data from the DB (or maybe put it in "quarrantine" so that it can be cleaned up and put in the main DB)? It's a neccessity that the INI section naming be flexible. E.g., I have intel-32 and intel-64 sections to test 32-bit and 64-bit. Note, there's no way around this because the Perl INI parser we're using does not allow duplicate section names, and also, MTT constructs a scratch tree on the assumption that each section has a unique name. For "database text string regulation", there's also: http://svn.open-mpi.org/trac/mtt/ticket/7 (users should be able to delete or modify results from database) -Ethan -- Jeff Squyres Cisco Systems ___ mtt-devel mailing list mtt-de...@open-mpi.org http://www.open-mpi.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mtt-devel ___ mtt-devel mailing list mtt-de...@open-mpi.org http://www.open-mpi.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mtt-devel -- Jeff Squyres Cisco Systems ___ mtt-devel mailing list mtt-de...@open-mpi.org http://www.open-mpi.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mtt-devel ___ mtt-devel mailing list mtt-de...@open-mpi.org http://www.open-mpi.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mtt-devel ___ mtt-devel mailing list mtt-de...@open-mpi.org http://www.open-mpi.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mtt-devel -- Jeff Squyres Cisco Systems ___ mtt-devel mailing list mtt-de...@open-mpi.org http://www.open-mpi.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mtt-devel ___ mtt-devel mailing list mtt-de...@open-mpi.org http://www.open-mpi.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mtt-devel -- Jeff Squyres Cisco Systems ___ mtt-devel mailing list mtt-de...@open-mpi.org http://www.open-mpi.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mtt-devel ___ mtt-devel mailing list mtt-de...@open-mpi.org http://www.open-mpi.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mtt-devel -- Jeff Squyres Cisco Systems
Re: [MTT devel] bogus timestamps in database
I think we were scheduled for talking about MTT today at 1 pm. Something has come up and I can't do it during that time. I can meet from 3 - 3:30 today or tomorrow 10-11:30, 2-3:30. I can also do anytime on Thursday. Sorry for the move. :( -- Josh On Jul 21, 2008, at 1:35 PM, Jeff Squyres wrote: Ok; I'll 3-way call you guys -- no need for a phone bridge. On Jul 21, 2008, at 1:32 PM, Ethan Mallove wrote: 3p works for me. -Ethan On Mon, Jul/21/2008 09:52:21AM, Jeff Squyres wrote: Sorry for the late reply -- how about 3pm today (Monday)? On Jul 18, 2008, at 3:55 PM, Ethan Mallove wrote: I'm basically available except for 2-4p on Friday. -Ethan On Fri, Jul/18/2008 10:02:10AM, Josh Hursey wrote: Yeah it might be good to touch base and see if there are any burning fires that we need to put out. For me it would have to be either next week or most likely the end of August. :( The good news is that I don't have too much on my calendar for next week. I'm available (prefer earlier in the week): M - Anytime T - 12 - 2, 2-4 W - 10 - 11:30, 2 - 4 R - anytime F - not available. -- Josh On Jul 18, 2008, at 9:29 AM, Jeff Squyres wrote: Mebbe we should have a teleconf sometime in the not-distant future and see if we want to prioritize some of the pending MTT work...? On Jul 17, 2008, at 6:39 PM, Ethan Mallove wrote: On Thu, Jul/17/2008 04:35:38PM, Jeff Squyres wrote: Here's a fun report (as of 17 July 2008): http://www.open-mpi.org/mtt/index.php?do_redir=775 Note that two of the rows are in the future. :-) (Absoft has since fixed the problem; ntp accidentally got turned off) Ethan and I talked about this a bit, and then Josh and I talked about it. Posting here to summarize everything: - It seems like a good solution for the moment is for submit.php to examine all the timestamps in a given submit and compare them to now(). Find the timestamp that latest in time, and compute x=latest_timestamp - now(). If x>0, then subtract x from *all* timestamps in the submitted data. Then print a Big Hairy Warning on the client that their time is not coordinated with the server. - Josh thinks that we should have a larger conversation about how to have some values be regulated (e.g., MPI name, test suite name, etc.). I agree -- classic case: some people call it "intel", others call it"intelsuite".They show up differently in the DB. My $0.02 is that we should allow people to call it whatever they want in the .ini file, but then somehow ensure to submit the names all consistently (e.g., ini file has a map of "this ini section is reported as 'intel'"), and if the name is invalid, reject the data from the DB (or maybe put it in "quarrantine" so that it can be cleaned up and put in the main DB)? It's a neccessity that the INI section naming be flexible. E.g., I have intel-32 and intel-64 sections to test 32-bit and 64-bit. Note, there's no way around this because the Perl INI parser we're using does not allow duplicate section names, and also, MTT constructs a scratch tree on the assumption that each section has a unique name. For "database text string regulation", there's also: http://svn.open-mpi.org/trac/mtt/ticket/7 (users should be able to delete or modify results from database) -Ethan -- Jeff Squyres Cisco Systems ___ mtt-devel mailing list mtt-de...@open-mpi.org http://www.open-mpi.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mtt-devel ___ mtt-devel mailing list mtt-de...@open-mpi.org http://www.open-mpi.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mtt-devel -- Jeff Squyres Cisco Systems ___ mtt-devel mailing list mtt-de...@open-mpi.org http://www.open-mpi.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mtt-devel ___ mtt-devel mailing list mtt-de...@open-mpi.org http://www.open-mpi.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mtt-devel ___ mtt-devel mailing list mtt-de...@open-mpi.org http://www.open-mpi.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mtt-devel -- Jeff Squyres Cisco Systems ___ mtt-devel mailing list mtt-de...@open-mpi.org http://www.open-mpi.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mtt-devel ___ mtt-devel mailing list mtt-de...@open-mpi.org http://www.open-mpi.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mtt-devel -- Jeff Squyres Cisco Systems ___ mtt-devel mailing list mtt-de...@open-mpi.org http://www.open-mpi.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mtt-devel
Re: [MTT devel] bogus timestamps in database
Ok; I'll 3-way call you guys -- no need for a phone bridge. On Jul 21, 2008, at 1:32 PM, Ethan Mallove wrote: 3p works for me. -Ethan On Mon, Jul/21/2008 09:52:21AM, Jeff Squyres wrote: Sorry for the late reply -- how about 3pm today (Monday)? On Jul 18, 2008, at 3:55 PM, Ethan Mallove wrote: I'm basically available except for 2-4p on Friday. -Ethan On Fri, Jul/18/2008 10:02:10AM, Josh Hursey wrote: Yeah it might be good to touch base and see if there are any burning fires that we need to put out. For me it would have to be either next week or most likely the end of August. :( The good news is that I don't have too much on my calendar for next week. I'm available (prefer earlier in the week): M - Anytime T - 12 - 2, 2-4 W - 10 - 11:30, 2 - 4 R - anytime F - not available. -- Josh On Jul 18, 2008, at 9:29 AM, Jeff Squyres wrote: Mebbe we should have a teleconf sometime in the not-distant future and see if we want to prioritize some of the pending MTT work...? On Jul 17, 2008, at 6:39 PM, Ethan Mallove wrote: On Thu, Jul/17/2008 04:35:38PM, Jeff Squyres wrote: Here's a fun report (as of 17 July 2008): http://www.open-mpi.org/mtt/index.php?do_redir=775 Note that two of the rows are in the future. :-) (Absoft has since fixed the problem; ntp accidentally got turned off) Ethan and I talked about this a bit, and then Josh and I talked about it. Posting here to summarize everything: - It seems like a good solution for the moment is for submit.php to examine all the timestamps in a given submit and compare them to now(). Find the timestamp that latest in time, and compute x=latest_timestamp - now(). If x>0, then subtract x from *all* timestamps in the submitted data. Then print a Big Hairy Warning on the client that their time is not coordinated with the server. - Josh thinks that we should have a larger conversation about how to have some values be regulated (e.g., MPI name, test suite name, etc.). I agree -- classic case: some people call it "intel", others call it "intelsuite".They show up differently in the DB. My $0.02 is that we should allow people to call it whatever they want in the .ini file, but then somehow ensure to submit the names all consistently (e.g., ini file has a map of "this ini section is reported as 'intel'"), and if the name is invalid, reject the data from the DB (or maybe put it in "quarrantine" so that it can be cleaned up and put in the main DB)? It's a neccessity that the INI section naming be flexible. E.g., I have intel-32 and intel-64 sections to test 32-bit and 64-bit. Note, there's no way around this because the Perl INI parser we're using does not allow duplicate section names, and also, MTT constructs a scratch tree on the assumption that each section has a unique name. For "database text string regulation", there's also: http://svn.open-mpi.org/trac/mtt/ticket/7 (users should be able to delete or modify results from database) -Ethan -- Jeff Squyres Cisco Systems ___ mtt-devel mailing list mtt-de...@open-mpi.org http://www.open-mpi.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mtt-devel ___ mtt-devel mailing list mtt-de...@open-mpi.org http://www.open-mpi.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mtt-devel -- Jeff Squyres Cisco Systems ___ mtt-devel mailing list mtt-de...@open-mpi.org http://www.open-mpi.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mtt-devel ___ mtt-devel mailing list mtt-de...@open-mpi.org http://www.open-mpi.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mtt-devel ___ mtt-devel mailing list mtt-de...@open-mpi.org http://www.open-mpi.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mtt-devel -- Jeff Squyres Cisco Systems ___ mtt-devel mailing list mtt-de...@open-mpi.org http://www.open-mpi.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mtt-devel ___ mtt-devel mailing list mtt-de...@open-mpi.org http://www.open-mpi.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mtt-devel -- Jeff Squyres Cisco Systems
Re: [MTT devel] bogus timestamps in database
3p works for me. -Ethan On Mon, Jul/21/2008 09:52:21AM, Jeff Squyres wrote: > Sorry for the late reply -- how about 3pm today (Monday)? > > > On Jul 18, 2008, at 3:55 PM, Ethan Mallove wrote: > >> I'm basically available except for 2-4p on Friday. >> >> -Ethan >> >> On Fri, Jul/18/2008 10:02:10AM, Josh Hursey wrote: >>> Yeah it might be good to touch base and see if there are any burning >>> fires >>> that we need to put out. >>> >>> For me it would have to be either next week or most likely the end of >>> August. :( The good news is that I don't have too much on my calendar for >>> next week. I'm available (prefer earlier in the week): >>> M - Anytime >>> T - 12 - 2, 2-4 >>> W - 10 - 11:30, 2 - 4 >>> R - anytime >>> F - not available. >>> >>> -- Josh >>> >>> On Jul 18, 2008, at 9:29 AM, Jeff Squyres wrote: >>> Mebbe we should have a teleconf sometime in the not-distant future and see if we want to prioritize some of the pending MTT work...? On Jul 17, 2008, at 6:39 PM, Ethan Mallove wrote: > On Thu, Jul/17/2008 04:35:38PM, Jeff Squyres wrote: >> Here's a fun report (as of 17 July 2008): >> >> http://www.open-mpi.org/mtt/index.php?do_redir=775 >> >> Note that two of the rows are in the future. :-) (Absoft has since >> fixed >> the problem; ntp accidentally got turned off) >> >> Ethan and I talked about this a bit, and then Josh and I talked about >> it. >> Posting here to summarize everything: >> >> - It seems like a good solution for the moment is for submit.php to >> examine >> all the timestamps in a given submit and compare them to now(). Find >> the >> timestamp that latest in time, and compute x=latest_timestamp - now(). >> If >> x>0, then subtract x from *all* timestamps in the submitted data. >> Then >> print a Big Hairy Warning on the client that their time is not >> coordinated >> with the server. >> >> - Josh thinks that we should have a larger conversation about how to >> have >> some values be regulated (e.g., MPI name, test suite name, etc.). I >> agree >> -- classic case: some people call it "intel", others call it >> "intelsuite".They show up differently in the DB. My $0.02 is that we >> should >> allow >> people to call it whatever they want in the .ini file, but then >> somehow >> ensure to submit the names all consistently (e.g., ini file has a map >> of >> "this ini section is reported as 'intel'"), and if the name is >> invalid, >> reject the data from the DB (or maybe put it in "quarrantine" so that >> it >> can be cleaned up and put in the main DB)? >> > > It's a neccessity that the INI section naming be flexible. > E.g., I have intel-32 and intel-64 sections to test 32-bit > and 64-bit. Note, there's no way around this because the > Perl INI parser we're using does not allow duplicate section > names, and also, MTT constructs a scratch tree on the > assumption that each section has a unique name. > > For "database text string regulation", there's also: > > http://svn.open-mpi.org/trac/mtt/ticket/7 (users should be > able to delete or modify results from database) > > -Ethan > >> -- >> Jeff Squyres >> Cisco Systems >> >> ___ >> mtt-devel mailing list >> mtt-de...@open-mpi.org >> http://www.open-mpi.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mtt-devel > ___ > mtt-devel mailing list > mtt-de...@open-mpi.org > http://www.open-mpi.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mtt-devel -- Jeff Squyres Cisco Systems ___ mtt-devel mailing list mtt-de...@open-mpi.org http://www.open-mpi.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mtt-devel >>> >>> ___ >>> mtt-devel mailing list >>> mtt-de...@open-mpi.org >>> http://www.open-mpi.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mtt-devel >> ___ >> mtt-devel mailing list >> mtt-de...@open-mpi.org >> http://www.open-mpi.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mtt-devel > > > -- > Jeff Squyres > Cisco Systems > > ___ > mtt-devel mailing list > mtt-de...@open-mpi.org > http://www.open-mpi.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mtt-devel
Re: [MTT devel] bogus timestamps in database
Sounds good to me. On Jul 21, 2008, at 9:52 AM, Jeff Squyres wrote: Sorry for the late reply -- how about 3pm today (Monday)? On Jul 18, 2008, at 3:55 PM, Ethan Mallove wrote: I'm basically available except for 2-4p on Friday. -Ethan On Fri, Jul/18/2008 10:02:10AM, Josh Hursey wrote: Yeah it might be good to touch base and see if there are any burning fires that we need to put out. For me it would have to be either next week or most likely the end of August. :( The good news is that I don't have too much on my calendar for next week. I'm available (prefer earlier in the week): M - Anytime T - 12 - 2, 2-4 W - 10 - 11:30, 2 - 4 R - anytime F - not available. -- Josh On Jul 18, 2008, at 9:29 AM, Jeff Squyres wrote: Mebbe we should have a teleconf sometime in the not-distant future and see if we want to prioritize some of the pending MTT work...? On Jul 17, 2008, at 6:39 PM, Ethan Mallove wrote: On Thu, Jul/17/2008 04:35:38PM, Jeff Squyres wrote: Here's a fun report (as of 17 July 2008): http://www.open-mpi.org/mtt/index.php?do_redir=775 Note that two of the rows are in the future. :-) (Absoft has since fixed the problem; ntp accidentally got turned off) Ethan and I talked about this a bit, and then Josh and I talked about it. Posting here to summarize everything: - It seems like a good solution for the moment is for submit.php to examine all the timestamps in a given submit and compare them to now(). Find the timestamp that latest in time, and compute x=latest_timestamp - now(). If x>0, then subtract x from *all* timestamps in the submitted data. Then print a Big Hairy Warning on the client that their time is not coordinated with the server. - Josh thinks that we should have a larger conversation about how to have some values be regulated (e.g., MPI name, test suite name, etc.). I agree -- classic case: some people call it "intel", others call it "intelsuite".They show up differently in the DB. My $0.02 is that we should allow people to call it whatever they want in the .ini file, but then somehow ensure to submit the names all consistently (e.g., ini file has a map of "this ini section is reported as 'intel'"), and if the name is invalid, reject the data from the DB (or maybe put it in "quarrantine" so that it can be cleaned up and put in the main DB)? It's a neccessity that the INI section naming be flexible. E.g., I have intel-32 and intel-64 sections to test 32-bit and 64-bit. Note, there's no way around this because the Perl INI parser we're using does not allow duplicate section names, and also, MTT constructs a scratch tree on the assumption that each section has a unique name. For "database text string regulation", there's also: http://svn.open-mpi.org/trac/mtt/ticket/7 (users should be able to delete or modify results from database) -Ethan -- Jeff Squyres Cisco Systems ___ mtt-devel mailing list mtt-de...@open-mpi.org http://www.open-mpi.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mtt-devel ___ mtt-devel mailing list mtt-de...@open-mpi.org http://www.open-mpi.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mtt-devel -- Jeff Squyres Cisco Systems ___ mtt-devel mailing list mtt-de...@open-mpi.org http://www.open-mpi.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mtt-devel ___ mtt-devel mailing list mtt-de...@open-mpi.org http://www.open-mpi.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mtt-devel ___ mtt-devel mailing list mtt-de...@open-mpi.org http://www.open-mpi.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mtt-devel -- Jeff Squyres Cisco Systems ___ mtt-devel mailing list mtt-de...@open-mpi.org http://www.open-mpi.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mtt-devel
Re: [MTT devel] bogus timestamps in database
Sorry for the late reply -- how about 3pm today (Monday)? On Jul 18, 2008, at 3:55 PM, Ethan Mallove wrote: I'm basically available except for 2-4p on Friday. -Ethan On Fri, Jul/18/2008 10:02:10AM, Josh Hursey wrote: Yeah it might be good to touch base and see if there are any burning fires that we need to put out. For me it would have to be either next week or most likely the end of August. :( The good news is that I don't have too much on my calendar for next week. I'm available (prefer earlier in the week): M - Anytime T - 12 - 2, 2-4 W - 10 - 11:30, 2 - 4 R - anytime F - not available. -- Josh On Jul 18, 2008, at 9:29 AM, Jeff Squyres wrote: Mebbe we should have a teleconf sometime in the not-distant future and see if we want to prioritize some of the pending MTT work...? On Jul 17, 2008, at 6:39 PM, Ethan Mallove wrote: On Thu, Jul/17/2008 04:35:38PM, Jeff Squyres wrote: Here's a fun report (as of 17 July 2008): http://www.open-mpi.org/mtt/index.php?do_redir=775 Note that two of the rows are in the future. :-) (Absoft has since fixed the problem; ntp accidentally got turned off) Ethan and I talked about this a bit, and then Josh and I talked about it. Posting here to summarize everything: - It seems like a good solution for the moment is for submit.php to examine all the timestamps in a given submit and compare them to now(). Find the timestamp that latest in time, and compute x=latest_timestamp - now(). If x>0, then subtract x from *all* timestamps in the submitted data. Then print a Big Hairy Warning on the client that their time is not coordinated with the server. - Josh thinks that we should have a larger conversation about how to have some values be regulated (e.g., MPI name, test suite name, etc.). I agree -- classic case: some people call it "intel", others call it "intel suite".They show up differently in the DB. My $0.02 is that we should allow people to call it whatever they want in the .ini file, but then somehow ensure to submit the names all consistently (e.g., ini file has a map of "this ini section is reported as 'intel'"), and if the name is invalid, reject the data from the DB (or maybe put it in "quarrantine" so that it can be cleaned up and put in the main DB)? It's a neccessity that the INI section naming be flexible. E.g., I have intel-32 and intel-64 sections to test 32-bit and 64-bit. Note, there's no way around this because the Perl INI parser we're using does not allow duplicate section names, and also, MTT constructs a scratch tree on the assumption that each section has a unique name. For "database text string regulation", there's also: http://svn.open-mpi.org/trac/mtt/ticket/7 (users should be able to delete or modify results from database) -Ethan -- Jeff Squyres Cisco Systems ___ mtt-devel mailing list mtt-de...@open-mpi.org http://www.open-mpi.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mtt-devel ___ mtt-devel mailing list mtt-de...@open-mpi.org http://www.open-mpi.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mtt-devel -- Jeff Squyres Cisco Systems ___ mtt-devel mailing list mtt-de...@open-mpi.org http://www.open-mpi.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mtt-devel ___ mtt-devel mailing list mtt-de...@open-mpi.org http://www.open-mpi.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mtt-devel ___ mtt-devel mailing list mtt-de...@open-mpi.org http://www.open-mpi.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mtt-devel -- Jeff Squyres Cisco Systems
Re: [MTT devel] bogus timestamps in database
I'm basically available except for 2-4p on Friday. -Ethan On Fri, Jul/18/2008 10:02:10AM, Josh Hursey wrote: > Yeah it might be good to touch base and see if there are any burning fires > that we need to put out. > > For me it would have to be either next week or most likely the end of > August. :( The good news is that I don't have too much on my calendar for > next week. I'm available (prefer earlier in the week): > M - Anytime > T - 12 - 2, 2-4 > W - 10 - 11:30, 2 - 4 > R - anytime > F - not available. > > -- Josh > > On Jul 18, 2008, at 9:29 AM, Jeff Squyres wrote: > >> Mebbe we should have a teleconf sometime in the not-distant future and see >> if we want to prioritize some of the pending MTT work...? >> >> >> On Jul 17, 2008, at 6:39 PM, Ethan Mallove wrote: >> >>> On Thu, Jul/17/2008 04:35:38PM, Jeff Squyres wrote: Here's a fun report (as of 17 July 2008): http://www.open-mpi.org/mtt/index.php?do_redir=775 Note that two of the rows are in the future. :-) (Absoft has since fixed the problem; ntp accidentally got turned off) Ethan and I talked about this a bit, and then Josh and I talked about it. Posting here to summarize everything: - It seems like a good solution for the moment is for submit.php to examine all the timestamps in a given submit and compare them to now(). Find the timestamp that latest in time, and compute x=latest_timestamp - now(). If x>0, then subtract x from *all* timestamps in the submitted data. Then print a Big Hairy Warning on the client that their time is not coordinated with the server. - Josh thinks that we should have a larger conversation about how to have some values be regulated (e.g., MPI name, test suite name, etc.). I agree -- classic case: some people call it "intel", others call it "intel suite".They show up differently in the DB. My $0.02 is that we should allow people to call it whatever they want in the .ini file, but then somehow ensure to submit the names all consistently (e.g., ini file has a map of "this ini section is reported as 'intel'"), and if the name is invalid, reject the data from the DB (or maybe put it in "quarrantine" so that it can be cleaned up and put in the main DB)? >>> >>> It's a neccessity that the INI section naming be flexible. >>> E.g., I have intel-32 and intel-64 sections to test 32-bit >>> and 64-bit. Note, there's no way around this because the >>> Perl INI parser we're using does not allow duplicate section >>> names, and also, MTT constructs a scratch tree on the >>> assumption that each section has a unique name. >>> >>> For "database text string regulation", there's also: >>> >>> http://svn.open-mpi.org/trac/mtt/ticket/7 (users should be >>> able to delete or modify results from database) >>> >>> -Ethan >>> -- Jeff Squyres Cisco Systems ___ mtt-devel mailing list mtt-de...@open-mpi.org http://www.open-mpi.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mtt-devel >>> ___ >>> mtt-devel mailing list >>> mtt-de...@open-mpi.org >>> http://www.open-mpi.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mtt-devel >> >> >> -- >> Jeff Squyres >> Cisco Systems >> >> ___ >> mtt-devel mailing list >> mtt-de...@open-mpi.org >> http://www.open-mpi.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mtt-devel > > ___ > mtt-devel mailing list > mtt-de...@open-mpi.org > http://www.open-mpi.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mtt-devel
Re: [MTT devel] bogus timestamps in database
Yeah it might be good to touch base and see if there are any burning fires that we need to put out. For me it would have to be either next week or most likely the end of August. :( The good news is that I don't have too much on my calendar for next week. I'm available (prefer earlier in the week): M - Anytime T - 12 - 2, 2-4 W - 10 - 11:30, 2 - 4 R - anytime F - not available. -- Josh On Jul 18, 2008, at 9:29 AM, Jeff Squyres wrote: Mebbe we should have a teleconf sometime in the not-distant future and see if we want to prioritize some of the pending MTT work...? On Jul 17, 2008, at 6:39 PM, Ethan Mallove wrote: On Thu, Jul/17/2008 04:35:38PM, Jeff Squyres wrote: Here's a fun report (as of 17 July 2008): http://www.open-mpi.org/mtt/index.php?do_redir=775 Note that two of the rows are in the future. :-) (Absoft has since fixed the problem; ntp accidentally got turned off) Ethan and I talked about this a bit, and then Josh and I talked about it. Posting here to summarize everything: - It seems like a good solution for the moment is for submit.php to examine all the timestamps in a given submit and compare them to now(). Find the timestamp that latest in time, and compute x=latest_timestamp - now(). If x>0, then subtract x from *all* timestamps in the submitted data. Then print a Big Hairy Warning on the client that their time is not coordinated with the server. - Josh thinks that we should have a larger conversation about how to have some values be regulated (e.g., MPI name, test suite name, etc.). I agree -- classic case: some people call it "intel", others call it "intel suite".They show up differently in the DB. My $0.02 is that we should allow people to call it whatever they want in the .ini file, but then somehow ensure to submit the names all consistently (e.g., ini file has a map of "this ini section is reported as 'intel'"), and if the name is invalid, reject the data from the DB (or maybe put it in "quarrantine" so that it can be cleaned up and put in the main DB)? It's a neccessity that the INI section naming be flexible. E.g., I have intel-32 and intel-64 sections to test 32-bit and 64-bit. Note, there's no way around this because the Perl INI parser we're using does not allow duplicate section names, and also, MTT constructs a scratch tree on the assumption that each section has a unique name. For "database text string regulation", there's also: http://svn.open-mpi.org/trac/mtt/ticket/7 (users should be able to delete or modify results from database) -Ethan -- Jeff Squyres Cisco Systems ___ mtt-devel mailing list mtt-de...@open-mpi.org http://www.open-mpi.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mtt-devel ___ mtt-devel mailing list mtt-de...@open-mpi.org http://www.open-mpi.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mtt-devel -- Jeff Squyres Cisco Systems ___ mtt-devel mailing list mtt-de...@open-mpi.org http://www.open-mpi.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mtt-devel
Re: [MTT devel] bogus timestamps in database
Mebbe we should have a teleconf sometime in the not-distant future and see if we want to prioritize some of the pending MTT work...? On Jul 17, 2008, at 6:39 PM, Ethan Mallove wrote: On Thu, Jul/17/2008 04:35:38PM, Jeff Squyres wrote: Here's a fun report (as of 17 July 2008): http://www.open-mpi.org/mtt/index.php?do_redir=775 Note that two of the rows are in the future. :-) (Absoft has since fixed the problem; ntp accidentally got turned off) Ethan and I talked about this a bit, and then Josh and I talked about it. Posting here to summarize everything: - It seems like a good solution for the moment is for submit.php to examine all the timestamps in a given submit and compare them to now(). Find the timestamp that latest in time, and compute x=latest_timestamp - now(). If x>0, then subtract x from *all* timestamps in the submitted data. Then print a Big Hairy Warning on the client that their time is not coordinated with the server. - Josh thinks that we should have a larger conversation about how to have some values be regulated (e.g., MPI name, test suite name, etc.). I agree -- classic case: some people call it "intel", others call it "intel suite". They show up differently in the DB. My $0.02 is that we should allow people to call it whatever they want in the .ini file, but then somehow ensure to submit the names all consistently (e.g., ini file has a map of "this ini section is reported as 'intel'"), and if the name is invalid, reject the data from the DB (or maybe put it in "quarrantine" so that it can be cleaned up and put in the main DB)? It's a neccessity that the INI section naming be flexible. E.g., I have intel-32 and intel-64 sections to test 32-bit and 64-bit. Note, there's no way around this because the Perl INI parser we're using does not allow duplicate section names, and also, MTT constructs a scratch tree on the assumption that each section has a unique name. For "database text string regulation", there's also: http://svn.open-mpi.org/trac/mtt/ticket/7 (users should be able to delete or modify results from database) -Ethan -- Jeff Squyres Cisco Systems ___ mtt-devel mailing list mtt-de...@open-mpi.org http://www.open-mpi.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mtt-devel ___ mtt-devel mailing list mtt-de...@open-mpi.org http://www.open-mpi.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mtt-devel -- Jeff Squyres Cisco Systems
Re: [MTT devel] bogus timestamps in database
On Thu, Jul/17/2008 04:35:38PM, Jeff Squyres wrote: > Here's a fun report (as of 17 July 2008): > > http://www.open-mpi.org/mtt/index.php?do_redir=775 > > Note that two of the rows are in the future. :-) (Absoft has since fixed > the problem; ntp accidentally got turned off) > > Ethan and I talked about this a bit, and then Josh and I talked about it. > Posting here to summarize everything: > > - It seems like a good solution for the moment is for submit.php to examine > all the timestamps in a given submit and compare them to now(). Find the > timestamp that latest in time, and compute x=latest_timestamp - now(). If > x>0, then subtract x from *all* timestamps in the submitted data. Then > print a Big Hairy Warning on the client that their time is not coordinated > with the server. > > - Josh thinks that we should have a larger conversation about how to have > some values be regulated (e.g., MPI name, test suite name, etc.). I agree > -- classic case: some people call it "intel", others call it "intel suite". > They show up differently in the DB. My $0.02 is that we should allow > people to call it whatever they want in the .ini file, but then somehow > ensure to submit the names all consistently (e.g., ini file has a map of > "this ini section is reported as 'intel'"), and if the name is invalid, > reject the data from the DB (or maybe put it in "quarrantine" so that it > can be cleaned up and put in the main DB)? > It's a neccessity that the INI section naming be flexible. E.g., I have intel-32 and intel-64 sections to test 32-bit and 64-bit. Note, there's no way around this because the Perl INI parser we're using does not allow duplicate section names, and also, MTT constructs a scratch tree on the assumption that each section has a unique name. For "database text string regulation", there's also: http://svn.open-mpi.org/trac/mtt/ticket/7 (users should be able to delete or modify results from database) -Ethan > -- > Jeff Squyres > Cisco Systems > > ___ > mtt-devel mailing list > mtt-de...@open-mpi.org > http://www.open-mpi.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mtt-devel
[MTT devel] bogus timestamps in database
Here's a fun report (as of 17 July 2008): http://www.open-mpi.org/mtt/index.php?do_redir=775 Note that two of the rows are in the future. :-) (Absoft has since fixed the problem; ntp accidentally got turned off) Ethan and I talked about this a bit, and then Josh and I talked about it. Posting here to summarize everything: - It seems like a good solution for the moment is for submit.php to examine all the timestamps in a given submit and compare them to now(). Find the timestamp that latest in time, and compute x=latest_timestamp - now(). If x>0, then subtract x from *all* timestamps in the submitted data. Then print a Big Hairy Warning on the client that their time is not coordinated with the server. - Josh thinks that we should have a larger conversation about how to have some values be regulated (e.g., MPI name, test suite name, etc.). I agree -- classic case: some people call it "intel", others call it "intel suite". They show up differently in the DB. My $0.02 is that we should allow people to call it whatever they want in the .ini file, but then somehow ensure to submit the names all consistently (e.g., ini file has a map of "this ini section is reported as 'intel'"), and if the name is invalid, reject the data from the DB (or maybe put it in "quarrantine" so that it can be cleaned up and put in the main DB)? -- Jeff Squyres Cisco Systems