Re: [MTT users] Python choice

2016-05-12 Thread Howard Pritchard 
Hi Ralph

Yes this will be first task for Deborah.

Howard

Am Donnerstag, 12. Mai 2016 schrieb Ralph Castain :

> This looks like the right approach to me: write it as Python 3, but with
> the Python 2 backward compatibility support add-ons.
>
> Howard: let me know if this is something your intern could tackle for us.
>
>
> On May 12, 2016, at 5:06 AM, Howard Pritchard  > wrote:
>
> Hi Folks,
>
> I've been asking around.  Its been suggested the route described in this
> URL can be taken,
>
> http://python-future.org/imports.html
>
>
>
> 2016-05-09 10:47 GMT-06:00 Ralph Castain  >:
>
>> Good question - I'm not sure we can. What happens right now is you get
>> syntax errors during the compile. I'll have to play and see if we can
>> generate an error message before we hit that point.
>>
>> On Mon, May 9, 2016 at 9:38 AM, Jeff Squyres (jsquyres) <
>> jsquy...@cisco.com >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Is it possible to give a friendly error message at run time if you
>>> accidentally run with Python 3.x?
>>>
>>>
>>> > On May 9, 2016, at 12:37 PM, Ralph Castain >> > wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Hi folks
>>> >
>>> > As we look at the Python client, there is an issue with the supported
>>> Python version. There was a significant break in the user-level API between
>>> Python 2.x and Python 3. Some of the issues are described here:
>>> >
>>> > https://docs.python.org/2/glossary.html#term-2to3
>>> >
>>> > Noah and I have chatted about this, and we feel it may be best to just
>>> lock-in on Python 2.x until an overwhelming reason arises for us to
>>> transition to Python 3. At that time, we would have to do a backward-break
>>> to update.
>>> >
>>> > The virtualenv content file (pyenv.txt) already reflects this
>>> requirement, so folks who use virtual environments are set.
>>> >
>>> > Make sense?
>>> > Ralph
>>> >
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Re: [MTT users] Python choice

2016-05-12 Thread Ralph Castain 
This looks like the right approach to me: write it as Python 3, but with the 
Python 2 backward compatibility support add-ons.

Howard: let me know if this is something your intern could tackle for us.


> On May 12, 2016, at 5:06 AM, Howard Pritchard  wrote:
> 
> Hi Folks,
> 
> I've been asking around.  Its been suggested the route described in this URL 
> can be taken,
> 
> http://python-future.org/imports.html 
> 
> 
> 
> 2016-05-09 10:47 GMT-06:00 Ralph Castain  >:
> Good question - I'm not sure we can. What happens right now is you get syntax 
> errors during the compile. I'll have to play and see if we can generate an 
> error message before we hit that point.
> 
> On Mon, May 9, 2016 at 9:38 AM, Jeff Squyres (jsquyres)  > wrote:
> Is it possible to give a friendly error message at run time if you 
> accidentally run with Python 3.x?
> 
> 
> > On May 9, 2016, at 12:37 PM, Ralph Castain  > > wrote:
> >
> > Hi folks
> >
> > As we look at the Python client, there is an issue with the supported 
> > Python version. There was a significant break in the user-level API between 
> > Python 2.x and Python 3. Some of the issues are described here:
> >
> > https://docs.python.org/2/glossary.html#term-2to3 
> > 
> >
> > Noah and I have chatted about this, and we feel it may be best to just 
> > lock-in on Python 2.x until an overwhelming reason arises for us to 
> > transition to Python 3. At that time, we would have to do a backward-break 
> > to update.
> >
> > The virtualenv content file (pyenv.txt) already reflects this requirement, 
> > so folks who use virtual environments are set.
> >
> > Make sense?
> > Ralph
> >
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> 
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Re: [MTT users] Python choice

2016-05-12 Thread Howard Pritchard 
Hi Folks,

I've been asking around.  Its been suggested the route described in this
URL can be taken,

http://python-future.org/imports.html



2016-05-09 10:47 GMT-06:00 Ralph Castain :

> Good question - I'm not sure we can. What happens right now is you get
> syntax errors during the compile. I'll have to play and see if we can
> generate an error message before we hit that point.
>
> On Mon, May 9, 2016 at 9:38 AM, Jeff Squyres (jsquyres) <
> jsquy...@cisco.com> wrote:
>
>> Is it possible to give a friendly error message at run time if you
>> accidentally run with Python 3.x?
>>
>>
>> > On May 9, 2016, at 12:37 PM, Ralph Castain  wrote:
>> >
>> > Hi folks
>> >
>> > As we look at the Python client, there is an issue with the supported
>> Python version. There was a significant break in the user-level API between
>> Python 2.x and Python 3. Some of the issues are described here:
>> >
>> > https://docs.python.org/2/glossary.html#term-2to3
>> >
>> > Noah and I have chatted about this, and we feel it may be best to just
>> lock-in on Python 2.x until an overwhelming reason arises for us to
>> transition to Python 3. At that time, we would have to do a backward-break
>> to update.
>> >
>> > The virtualenv content file (pyenv.txt) already reflects this
>> requirement, so folks who use virtual environments are set.
>> >
>> > Make sense?
>> > Ralph
>> >
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>>
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Re: [MTT users] Python choice

2016-05-09 Thread Ralph Castain 
Good question - I'm not sure we can. What happens right now is you get
syntax errors during the compile. I'll have to play and see if we can
generate an error message before we hit that point.

On Mon, May 9, 2016 at 9:38 AM, Jeff Squyres (jsquyres) 
wrote:

> Is it possible to give a friendly error message at run time if you
> accidentally run with Python 3.x?
>
>
> > On May 9, 2016, at 12:37 PM, Ralph Castain  wrote:
> >
> > Hi folks
> >
> > As we look at the Python client, there is an issue with the supported
> Python version. There was a significant break in the user-level API between
> Python 2.x and Python 3. Some of the issues are described here:
> >
> > https://docs.python.org/2/glossary.html#term-2to3
> >
> > Noah and I have chatted about this, and we feel it may be best to just
> lock-in on Python 2.x until an overwhelming reason arises for us to
> transition to Python 3. At that time, we would have to do a backward-break
> to update.
> >
> > The virtualenv content file (pyenv.txt) already reflects this
> requirement, so folks who use virtual environments are set.
> >
> > Make sense?
> > Ralph
> >
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Re: [MTT users] Python choice

2016-05-09 Thread Jeff Squyres (jsquyres) 
Is it possible to give a friendly error message at run time if you accidentally 
run with Python 3.x?


> On May 9, 2016, at 12:37 PM, Ralph Castain  wrote:
> 
> Hi folks
> 
> As we look at the Python client, there is an issue with the supported Python 
> version. There was a significant break in the user-level API between Python 
> 2.x and Python 3. Some of the issues are described here:
> 
> https://docs.python.org/2/glossary.html#term-2to3
> 
> Noah and I have chatted about this, and we feel it may be best to just 
> lock-in on Python 2.x until an overwhelming reason arises for us to 
> transition to Python 3. At that time, we would have to do a backward-break to 
> update.
> 
> The virtualenv content file (pyenv.txt) already reflects this requirement, so 
> folks who use virtual environments are set.
> 
> Make sense?
> Ralph
> 
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