Re: [music-dsp] Signal processing and dbFS

2012-01-18 Thread Uli Brueggemann
My simple point of view about dBFS (full scale): The full scale FS of a 16 bit soundcard is 2^15=32768, of a 24 bit soundcard it is 2^23 = 8388608. The dB number Y of a value X represents a relation to the full scale: Y [dBFS] = 20*Log10(X/FS) So with X=32786 and a 16 bit soundcard you get Y =

Re: [music-dsp] Signal processing and dbFS

2012-01-18 Thread Thomas Young
Most people seem to be overthinking this, Uli has posted the important equation here: Y [dBFS] = 20*Log10(X/FS) That is all you need for converting normalised peak values to dbFS. -Original Message- From: music-dsp-boun...@music.columbia.edu

Re: [music-dsp] Signal processing and dbFS

2012-01-18 Thread Nigel Redmon
If we're overthinking it, it's probably because we're not sure what Linda's after. I'm sure she knows the formula for voltage conversion to dB. On Jan 18, 2012, at 2:34 AM, Thomas Young wrote: Most people seem to be overthinking this, Uli has posted the important equation here: Y [dBFS] =

Re: [music-dsp] Signal processing and dbFS

2012-01-18 Thread Thomas Young
I'm just highlighting Uli's post which I think contains the answer to her main question of how to convert a normalised matlab plot into dbFS. I don't mean to denigrate what other people have said. -Original Message- From: music-dsp-boun...@music.columbia.edu

Re: [music-dsp] music-dsp Digest, Vol 97, Issue 21

2012-01-18 Thread Linda Seltzer
Thank you for the replies. What I am interested in is: Why and under what circumstances is it advantageous to set up the Y axis as dbFS rather than dbV, dbSPL, or a linear scale? If you use a dB scale that is referenced to the lowest volume rather than to the loudest level, then the issues of a

Re: [music-dsp] music-dsp Digest, Vol 97, Issue 21

2012-01-18 Thread Ross Bencina
On 19/01/2012 9:03 AM, Linda Seltzer wrote: Why and under what circumstances is it advantageous to set up the Y axis as dbFS rather than dbV, dbSPL, out of the ones you mention, dBFS is the only one that has any meaning in the digital domain -- since as we've established, the others don't

Re: [music-dsp] Signal processing and dbFS

2012-01-18 Thread Michael Gogins
OK, I'll weigh in on this. As noted decibels are a relative measure of energy on a logarithmic scale. Roughly, every time you double the amplitude of a signal, its energy increases by 6 dB. There is absolutely no fixed point or origin to the decibel scale. An origin must be assigned. dB full

Re: [music-dsp] music-dsp Digest, Vol 97, Issue 21

2012-01-18 Thread Nigel Redmon
Hi Linda, Ross nailed it on his comments in general (the most basic of which is out of the ones you mention, dBFS is the only one that has any meaning in the digital domain), I'm left with a couple of comments: To your first question, it would be easier if you pointed to particular graphs and