[music-dsp] Window presum synthesis

2012-04-20 Thread Domagoj Šarić
Hi everyone, I'm trying to figure out the window presum FFT technique (seems to also go by the name polyphase FFT, time domain aliasing/folding as well as weighted overlap and add even though the latter is often simply used as a synonym for the basic windowed overlap and add method). I've found

[music-dsp] WOLA and the phase vocoder

2012-04-20 Thread Domagoj Šarić
As any tutorial/paper/book will teach you, one should apply the window of choice both before an FFT and after an IFFT (in order to smooth/taper to signal that might have gone wild due to frequency domain modifications). The problem is of course that this amounts to applying a squared window

Re: [music-dsp] WOLA and the phase vocoder

2012-04-20 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 9:23 AM, Domagoj Šarić dsar...@gmail.com wrote: As any tutorial/paper/book will teach you, one should apply the window of choice both before an FFT and after an IFFT (in order to smooth/taper to signal that might have gone wild due to frequency domain modifications).

Re: [music-dsp] Window presum synthesis

2012-04-20 Thread Alessandro Saccoia
Hello, I haven't read your post in detail but ps. I've seen this article http://archive.chipcenter.com/dsp/DSP000315F1.html often being mentioned as explaining it all but unfortunately the site no longer exists… always check archive.org for pages that are gone...

Re: [music-dsp] WOLA and the phase vocoder

2012-04-20 Thread Wen Xue
Pre- and post- windows do not have to be identical. Post-windowing is more about eliminating discontinuities at the ends of a frame. It has nothing to do with DFT so one doesn't care about the spectral qualities. I use Hamming forpre-windowing and {Hann divided by Hamming} for

Re: [music-dsp] Window presum synthesis

2012-04-20 Thread Charles Henry
On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 8:15 AM, Domagoj Šarić dsar...@gmail.com wrote: ...but unfortunately all of these however seem to stop at the analysis stage (i.e. we've gotten a more precise spectrum and that's all we need). I've wraped my head around the idea itself and the analysis procedure, I

Re: [music-dsp] WOLA and the phase vocoder

2012-04-20 Thread Dave Hoskins
Have you tried a sine window for both analysis and syntheses yet? It's used in MPEG according to here:- https://ccrma.stanford.edu/~jos/sasp/MLT_Sine_Window.html https://ccrma.stanford.edu/%7Ejos/sasp/MLT_Sine_Window.html Although I think it's supposed to be 'M-1' instead of M, I'm not sure

Re: [music-dsp] Window presum synthesis

2012-04-20 Thread Chris Cannam
On 20 April 2012 14:15, Domagoj Šarić dsar...@gmail.com wrote: ...but unfortunately all of these however seem to stop at the analysis stage (i.e. we've gotten a more precise spectrum and that's all we need). Mark Dolson's CARL phase vocoder (http://www.crca.ucsd.edu/cmusic/cmusic.html) from

Re: [music-dsp] WOLA and the phase vocoder

2012-04-20 Thread Wen Xue
The sine window is exactly the square-root of the Hann. (I've seen Hann window called square-sine window in some textbooks.) M or M-1 determine the actual window size (time taken by the window function to go from 0 to 0, not to be confused with DFT size). If you prefer to use same window and

Re: [music-dsp] Window presum synthesis

2012-04-20 Thread sfx
Alessandro Saccoia alessandro.sacc...@gmail.com wrote: http://web.archive.org/web/20060513150136/http://archive.chipcenter.com/dsp/DSP000315F1.html The images haven't been archived, but you could still find it a useful reference. This link includes the images:

[music-dsp] [admin] Re: WOLA and the phase vocoder

2012-04-20 Thread douglas repetto
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