Re: [music-dsp] Are natural sounds of minimum phase?

2013-12-12 Thread Theo Verelst
robert bristow-johnson wrote: On 12/11/13 4:16 AM, Didier Dambrin wrote: I don't understand what linear phase means in something that's not a filter? if you can model the "natural sound" as the impulse response of a hypothetical filter, where there is no delay (or samples with zero value) bet

Re: [music-dsp] Are natural sounds of minimum phase?

2013-12-11 Thread Jerry
On Dec 10, 2013, at 10:29 PM, Sol Friedman wrote: > Specifically, can the set of all sounds that occur in nature (e.g. birds > chirping, rustling leaves, another person speaking etc.) be characterized by > a certain phase profile? If so, minimum phase would be a likely candidate, > given its

Re: [music-dsp] Are natural sounds of minimum phase?

2013-12-11 Thread Lubomir I. Ivanov
On 11 December 2013 07:29, Sol Friedman wrote: > Specifically, can the set of all sounds that occur in nature (e.g. birds > chirping, rustling leaves, another person speaking etc.) be characterized by > a certain phase profile? If so, minimum phase would be a likely candidate, > given its shor

Re: [music-dsp] Are natural sounds of minimum phase?

2013-12-11 Thread robert bristow-johnson
On 12/11/13 4:16 AM, Didier Dambrin wrote: I don't understand what linear phase means in something that's not a filter? if you can model the "natural sound" as the impulse response of a hypothetical filter, where there is no delay (or samples with zero value) between the impulse and the ons

Re: [music-dsp] Are natural sounds of minimum phase?

2013-12-11 Thread Didier Dambrin
), for metallic hits neither. But I don't see what it has to do with pre-ringing. -Message d'origine- From: Sol Friedman Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2013 6:29 AM To: music-dsp@music.columbia.edu Subject: [music-dsp] Are natural sounds of minimum phase? Specifically, can th

Re: [music-dsp] Are natural sounds of minimum phase?

2013-12-10 Thread Ross Bencina
On 11/12/2013 4:29 PM, Sol Friedman wrote: minimum phase would be a likely candidate Is minimum-phase a well defined property of non-linear time-varying systems? Ross. -- dupswapdrop -- the music-dsp mailing list and website: subscription info, FAQ, source code archive, list archive, book revi

[music-dsp] Are natural sounds of minimum phase?

2013-12-10 Thread Sol Friedman
Specifically, can the set of all sounds that occur in nature (e.g. birds chirping, rustling leaves, another person speaking etc.) be characterized by a certain phase profile? If so, minimum phase would be a likely candidate, given its short group delay; less likely is linear phase, as we don't