Re: [music-dsp] choice of Q for graphic equalizers

2012-02-07 Thread dgm
To correct what I wrote yesterday, I now recall that I had to tune the filters when I first built the equalizer, so bandwidth would be the correct way to go. dgm On Feb 8, 2012, at 2:45 AM, Nils Pipenbrinck wrote: > On 02/07/2012 06:04 AM, robert bristow-johnson wrote: >> >> so it looks like y

Re: [music-dsp] choice of Q for graphic equalizers

2012-02-07 Thread Nils Pipenbrinck
On 02/07/2012 06:04 AM, robert bristow-johnson wrote: > > so it looks like you have 31 biquads in cascade, right? and they are > all peaking-EQ filters from the cookbook, right? (perhaps the bottom > band and the top band are shelving EQs.) > > i would suggest not using Q, but use the BW option i

Re: [music-dsp] choice of Q for graphic equalizers

2012-02-07 Thread Shashank Kumar (shanxS)
@Ross, Nigel: Thanks for information. That was enlightening. :) I'd be really grateful if someone would suggest a book audio filter design where I can see all of these comparisons in form of mathematical equations ? Regards, Shashank On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 12:44 PM, Nigel Redmon wrote: > Shasha

Re: [music-dsp] choice of Q for graphic equalizers

2012-02-06 Thread Nigel Redmon
Shashank: Analog filters—the kind in analog mixing consoles that mixed most of what you grew up on—are IIR. So are most of their digital counterparts. So, that's what people are used to. Of course Ross is right about transients, depending on the amount of filtering used, but linear phase has it

Re: [music-dsp] choice of Q for graphic equalizers

2012-02-06 Thread Ross Bencina
On 7/02/2012 5:31 PM, Shashank Kumar (shanxS) wrote: But for audio applications, like EQ design, isn't the phase response supposed to be linear ? I would say not. Most audio EQ filters don't have linear phase. Additionally, the ear is very sensitive to acausality so, especially for radical

Re: [music-dsp] choice of Q for graphic equalizers

2012-02-06 Thread Shashank Kumar (shanxS)
I had a doubt regarding filter designing. Filters defined in Robert's cookbook are iir filters, i.e. Phase respone is non linear. But for audio applications, like EQ design, isn't the phase response supposed to be linear ? Shashank On 2/7/12, Nils Pipenbrinck wrote: > A quick question: > > I am

Re: [music-dsp] choice of Q for graphic equalizers

2012-02-06 Thread Shashank Kumar (shanxS)
I had a doubt regarding filter designing. Filters defined in Robert's cookbook are iir filters, i.e. Phase respone is non linear. But for audio applications, like EQ design, isn't the phase response supposed to be linear ? Shashank On 2/7/12, Nils Pipenbrinck wrote: > A quick question: > > I am

Re: [music-dsp] choice of Q for graphic equalizers

2012-02-06 Thread dgm
I wrote several 1/3 octave EQs for cinema sound equipment. They were all based in the main on the RBJ cookbook, the only changes being to code in assembly language and make the calculation real-time adjustable. I used a Butterworth characteristic Q and added two shelving filters 3k (approx) and

Re: [music-dsp] choice of Q for graphic equalizers

2012-02-06 Thread robert bristow-johnson
On 2/6/12 3:28 PM, Nils Pipenbrinck wrote: A quick question: I am writing a little 31 band graphical equalizer (three bands per octave), and I want to use the peaking-eq biquads from Roberts excellent filter cookbook. Everything is working fine so far, but I wonder what Q should I choose for th

[music-dsp] choice of Q for graphic equalizers

2012-02-06 Thread Nils Pipenbrinck
A quick question: I am writing a little 31 band graphical equalizer (three bands per octave), and I want to use the peaking-eq biquads from Roberts excellent filter cookbook. Everything is working fine so far, but I wonder what Q should I choose for the filters? is 1/3 okay? Cheers, Nils --