Re: [music-dsp] Comb filter decay wrt. feedback

2015-05-13 Thread Theo Verelst
A comb filter has a certain purpose. Do you know it? Not everybody is good at electronics (where comb filters have a clearer meaning) or physics, but it does pay to take a little time to at least try to understand the difference between free wheel thinking about some glossy subject (DSP)

Re: [music-dsp] Comb filter decay wrt. feedback

2015-05-13 Thread Tim Goetze
[Peter S] but when i consider that part of designing comb filters tuned to musical notes, i have to at least pause and wonder which interpolation would be better or sufficient for whatever application and that's why it didn't seem trivial to me. Linear interpolation is fast and dirty, and

Re: [music-dsp] Comb filter decay wrt. feedback

2015-05-12 Thread robert bristow-johnson
On 5/10/15 3:42 PM, Matthias Puech wrote: I have a recursive comb filter, implemented with a simple delay line of size N and feedback F in [0..1]. If feedback is high and I ping it, it decays exponentially as it should, to give the typical ringing effect. The decay time D is also proportional

Re: [music-dsp] Comb filter decay wrt. feedback

2015-05-12 Thread Peter S
On 12/05/2015, robert bristow-johnson r...@audioimagination.com wrote: so Peter, this (the answer to the OP's question) is trivial? it's not string theory, but it's more than trivial. The poster's question was: how to solve F in a decaying exponential for a given D and T:

Re: [music-dsp] Comb filter decay wrt. feedback

2015-05-10 Thread Matthias Puech
Thank you very much to all of you for the great resources and the blazingly fast answers. It gives me much to digest. Indeed, my question was simply about a feedback path, no feedforward. I solved my problem, using Peter’s comment and with the great help of Matt (offline), simply by doing: F

Re: [music-dsp] Comb filter decay wrt. feedback

2015-05-10 Thread Peter S
On 11/05/2015, Peter S peter.schoffhau...@gmail.com wrote: By the way, the 'decay time' is also well defined in case of one-pole filters, and is called 'time constant' dspguide.com gives the following time constant formula for one pole filters: x = exp ( -1 / d ) where d is the desired decay

Re: [music-dsp] Comb filter decay wrt. feedback

2015-05-10 Thread Matthias Puech
Le 10 mai 2015 à 16:50, robert bristow-johnson r...@audioimagination.com a écrit : it's not trivial and it's not in the basic lit. This make me somehow relieved and disappointed at the same time. ;) lemme find and review my own notes/equations regarding that (i think i titled it Fun with

Re: [music-dsp] Comb filter decay wrt. feedback

2015-05-10 Thread robert bristow-johnson
On 5/10/15 3:42 PM, Matthias Puech wrote: This is my first post on this list, although I have been reading it for quite some time, with great interest. welcum I am a CS researcher in an unrelated field, but fascinated for as long as I can remember by DSP and sound synthesis.

Re: [music-dsp] Comb filter decay wrt. feedback

2015-05-10 Thread Peter S
On 11/05/2015, robert bristow-johnson r...@audioimagination.com wrote: apologies for the hyperbole. if you consider both feedback and feedforward gain, Where does the 'feedforward' part come from? As I understand, poster has a delay line with a simple feedback loop, and no feedforward path:

Re: [music-dsp] Comb filter decay wrt. feedback

2015-05-10 Thread Peter S
On 10/05/2015, robert bristow-johnson r...@audioimagination.com wrote: it's not trivial and it's not in the basic lit. It's trivial, and it's in the 1961 Schroeder paper linked in the previous post. - Peter -- dupswapdrop -- the music-dsp mailing list and website: subscription info, FAQ, source

Re: [music-dsp] Comb filter decay wrt. feedback

2015-05-10 Thread robert bristow-johnson
On 5/10/15 8:00 PM, Peter S wrote: On 10/05/2015, robert bristow-johnsonr...@audioimagination.com wrote: it's not trivial and it's not in the basic lit. It's trivial, and it's in the 1961 Schroeder paper linked in the previous post. apologies for the hyperbole. if you consider both

Re: [music-dsp] Comb filter decay wrt. feedback

2015-05-10 Thread Peter S
On 10/05/2015, Matthias Puech pu...@cs.mcgill.ca wrote: I have a recursive comb filter, implemented with a simple delay line of size N and feedback F in [0..1]. If feedback is high and I ping it, it decays exponentially as it should, to give the typical ringing effect. The decay time D is also

[music-dsp] Comb filter decay wrt. feedback

2015-05-10 Thread Matthias Puech
Hello DSPists, This is my first post on this list, although I have been reading it for quite some time, with great interest. I am a CS researcher in an unrelated field, but fascinated for as long as I can remember by DSP and sound synthesis. Unfortunately my knowledge is still basic, and now

Re: [music-dsp] Comb filter decay wrt. feedback

2015-05-10 Thread Matt Jackson
I'm about to build a clouds from pcb and quite interested in how to reprogram it. Seen your parasites on muffs and anxious to try it. Matt (From Ableton) Sent from a phone. On 10.05.2015, at 21:42, Matthias Puech pu...@cs.mcgill.ca wrote: Hello DSPists, This is my first post on this

Re: [music-dsp] Comb filter decay wrt. feedback

2015-05-10 Thread Matt Jackson
Oops that was meant as directly to Matthias. But as long as there is no filter in the feedback loop, Rt60 is your friend ;) http://www.sengpielaudio.com/calculator-RT60.htm Sent from a phone. On 10.05.2015, at 21:54, Matt Jackson matt.jack...@ableton.commailto:matt.jack...@ableton.com wrote: