Re: [music-dsp] FFT for realtime synthesis?

2018-10-25 Thread gm
Am 25.10.2018 um 12:17 schrieb gm: (also I am doing the pitch shift the wrong way at the moment, first transpose in time domain, then FFT time stretch, cause that was easier to do for now but this shouldn't cause an audible problem here) Now I think that flaw is actually the way to go

Re: [music-dsp] FFT for realtime synthesis?

2018-10-25 Thread gm
the same sample as before, rearranged and sequenced, transposed sound quality and latency aside, I think the idea has some potential https://soundcloud.com/traumlos_kalt/spectromat-test-4-01/s-7W2tR the second part is from Nancy Sinatras Summervine I am sorry it's all drenched in a resonant

Re: [music-dsp] FFT for realtime synthesis?

2018-10-25 Thread gm
here an example at 22050 hz sample rate, FFT size 1024, smoothing for the spectral envelope 10 bins, and simple phase realignment: when amplitude is greater than last frames amplitude phase is set to original phase, otherwise to the accumulated phase of the time stretch didn't expect

Re: [music-dsp] FFT for realtime synthesis?

2018-10-25 Thread gm
One thing I noticed is that it seems to sound better at 22050 Hz sample rate so I assume 1024 FFT size is too small and you should use 2048. I dont know if that is because the DC band is too high or if the bins are too broadband with 1024, or both? I assume with this and some phase

Re: [music-dsp] FFT for realtime synthesis?

2018-10-25 Thread gm
I made a quick test, original first, then resynthesized with time stretch and pitch shift and corrected formants: https://soundcloud.com/traumlos_kalt/ft-resynth-test-1-01/s-7GCLk https://soundcloud.com/traumlos_kalt/ft-resynth-test-2-01/s-2OJ2H sounds quite phasey and gurgely I am using 1024

Re: [music-dsp] FFT for realtime synthesis?

2018-10-24 Thread Ariane stolfi
We did FFT noise synthesis for a participatory performance project "Open Band", you can read about it on this paper: https://qmro.qmul.ac.uk/xmlui/bitstream/handle/123456789/26169/13.pdf?sequence=1 the idea was to crate blocks of noise based on pre-determined frequencies to draw letters on the

Re: [music-dsp] FFT for realtime synthesis?

2018-10-24 Thread Ethan Fenn
I haven't thought through the details for any particular application, but the chirp z-transform might be a useful trick to keep in mind for these sorts of things. It lets you calculate an IFFT with an arbitrary spacing between bins, or even an arbitrary fundamental in case you want to detune the

Re: [music-dsp] FFT for realtime synthesis?

2018-10-23 Thread gm
Am 24.10.2018 um 02:48 schrieb gm: two demo tracks https://soundcloud.com/transmortal/the-way-you-were-fake https://soundcloud.com/traumlos-kalt/the-way-we-were-iii they are mostly made from a snippet of Nancy Sinatras Fridays Child I just realize in case s.o. is really interested, I have

Re: [music-dsp] FFT for realtime synthesis?

2018-10-23 Thread gm
Am 24.10.2018 um 02:24 schrieb gm: Am 24.10.2018 um 00:46 schrieb robert bristow-johnson: > Does anybody know a real world product that uses FFT for sound synthesis? > Do you think its feasable and makes sense? so this first question is about synthesis, not modification for effects,

Re: [music-dsp] FFT for realtime synthesis?

2018-10-23 Thread gm
Am 24.10.2018 um 02:12 schrieb gm: Am 24.10.2018 um 00:38 schrieb David Olofson: Simple demo song + some comments here: https://soundcloud.com/david-olofson/eelsynth-ifft-flutesong sounds quite nice actually ___ dupswapdrop: music-dsp mailing

Re: [music-dsp] FFT for realtime synthesis?

2018-10-23 Thread Ian Esten
The Kurzweil K150 is the first product I can think of that did it. To create custom sounds for it required the use of software that modeled the sound using partial amplitudes over time. It's a very powerful technique for synthesising certain types of sound, such as a piano, where frequencies of

Re: [music-dsp] FFT for realtime synthesis?

2018-10-23 Thread robert bristow-johnson
Original Message Subject: [music-dsp] FFT for realtime synthesis? From: "gm" Date: Tue, October 23, 2018 5:51 pm To: music-dsp@music.co

Re: [music-dsp] FFT for realtime synthesis?

2018-10-23 Thread David Olofson
On Wed, Oct 24, 2018 at 12:14 AM gm wrote: > Am 23.10.2018 um 23:51 schrieb gm: [...] > I think I should add that I want to use it on polyphonic material or any > source material > so sinu oscillators are probably not the way to go cuase you would need > too many of them Sine oscillators can be

Re: [music-dsp] FFT for realtime synthesis?

2018-10-23 Thread David Olofson
On Tue, Oct 23, 2018 at 11:51 PM gm wrote: > > Does anybody know a real world product that uses FFT for sound synthesis? I believe AIR Loom does, and I suspect some wavetable synths use FFT as well; Waves Codex and DS Audio Thorn comes to mind. (Mentions of "spectral synthesis," and there's also

Re: [music-dsp] FFT for realtime synthesis?

2018-10-23 Thread gm
Am 23.10.2018 um 23:51 schrieb gm: An advantage of using FFT instead of sinusoids would be that you dont have to worry about partial trajectories, residual noise components and that sort of thing. I think I should add that I want to use it on polyphonic material or any source material so

[music-dsp] FFT for realtime synthesis?

2018-10-23 Thread gm
Does anybody know a real world product that uses FFT for sound synthesis? Do you think its feasable and makes sense? Totally unrelated to the recent discussion here I consider replacing (WS)OLA granular "clouds" with a spectral synthesis and was wondering if I should use FFT for that. I want