Re: [music-dsp] digital EQ (passive) adding gain

2011-03-17 Thread pierlu
@Eldad I'm no DSP expert but I read about the effect you talk about while doing some research on linear phase eq's. What happens with a passive eq is that frequencies are lowered in amplitude but shifted in phase as well, so that they happen to slide and sum with other frequencies thus increasing

Re: [music-dsp] digital EQ (passive) adding gain

2011-03-13 Thread robert bristow-johnson
another way to think about it is to pretend that your filter, whatever it is, is a "matched filter". "matched to what?" you say. it's matched to a signal that looks just like a time-reversed copy of the filter's impulse response. so whatever the impulse response of the filter is, if th

Re: [music-dsp] digital EQ (passive) adding gain

2011-03-13 Thread Martin Eisenberg
Earl Vickers schrieb: > The L2 (RMS, magnitude response) norm doesn't place a > bound on the output signal's peak amplitude, which is determined by > the L-infinity norm. There's a good discussion in Dana Massie, "An > Engineering Study of the Four-Multiply Normalized Ladder Filter," > JAES, July

Re: [music-dsp] digital EQ (passive) adding gain

2011-03-13 Thread Eldad Tsabary
Thanks! This is important to know. Every time we use EQ we can lose dynamic range. If we EQ every track of a piece it can accumulate significantly quickly. Cheers Eldad On 3/13/2011 2:36 PM, Earl Vickers wrote: If I understand correctly (happens intermittently), we're talking about an increase

Re: [music-dsp] digital EQ (passive) adding gain

2011-03-13 Thread Earl Vickers
If I understand correctly (happens intermittently), we're talking about an increase in peak amplitude due to a high-pass filter. If so... note that a filter with a maximum response of 0 dB at any frequency only guarantees that a full-scale sine won't exceed 0 dB at the output. The L2 (RMS, magn

Re: [music-dsp] digital EQ (passive) adding gain

2011-03-13 Thread Eldad Tsabary
t you get Ross. - Original Message - From: "Eldad Tsabary" To: ; "A discussion list for music-related DSP" Sent: Monday, March 14, 2011 4:40 AM Subject: Re: [music-dsp] digital EQ (passive) adding gain Hello again I did another test with a Bessel filter in A

Re: [music-dsp] digital EQ (passive) adding gain

2011-03-13 Thread Ross Bencina
Eldad Tsabary" To: ; "A discussion list for music-related DSP" Sent: Monday, March 14, 2011 4:40 AM Subject: Re: [music-dsp] digital EQ (passive) adding gain Hello again I did another test with a Bessel filter in Adobe Audition and had the same results I took a Glen Branca symph

Re: [music-dsp] digital EQ (passive) adding gain

2011-03-13 Thread Eldad Tsabary
Hello again I did another test with a Bessel filter in Adobe Audition and had the same results I took a Glen Branca symphony (just an example) and added a high pass 3rd order (Bessel) filter at 100 Hz Instead of losing peak level it produced a file of a slightly higher peak (from -7.73 to -6.95