It's the contents of the headers that triggers bounces/rejections, not
the content of the message. At least for non-plaintext mail. Spam
filtering, of course, also works on message content.
best,
douglas
On 2/25/12 4:33 PM, Tom Wiltshire wrote:
Oh, ok. I assumed that when they said "Rich te
Oh, ok. I assumed that when they said "Rich text" in Mail.app, they meant the
same as when they say "rich text format" in TextEdit. My mistake.
Checking more carefully, I find you're right. Mail sends "rich text" messages
as "Content-Type: multipart/alternative;" and includes the "rich text" par
Tom—when Apple says "rich text", they mean that in the generic sense, not rtf.
I don't think Mail has ever sent message in rtf.
On Feb 25, 2012, at 11:22 AM, Tom Wiltshire wrote:
> Here's an example of a basic RTF document:
>
> {\rtf1\ansi\ansicpg1252\cocoartf1038\cocoasubrtf360
>
Even without forcing the message with Make Plain Text (with rich text default),
the message gets sent as text/plain—normally. I guess what might happen is some
formatting gets bumped in during typing by accident, in which case the message
is send as multipart/alternative, with text and html part
Thanks, Bjorn, I've updated the FAQ with more current info.
douglas
On 2/25/12 2:42 PM, Bjorn Roche wrote:
On Feb 25, 2012, at 2:21 PM, douglas repetto wrote:
And btw, you should receive a message from the list software with links to the
list FAQs, which detail various reasons why your me
On Feb 25, 2012, at 2:21 PM, douglas repetto wrote:
>
> And btw, you should receive a message from the list software with links to
> the list FAQs, which detail various reasons why your messages might not make
> it through.
>
> http://music.columbia.edu/cmc/music-dsp/musicdspFAQ.admin.html
N
Reading rich text email is email client dependent. Modern clients look
at the headers and interpret the email accordingly.
I guess that's another argument against allowing non-plaintext -- it
makes it really difficult to read the list in old school email clients
that have no rich text parsin
Here's an example of a basic RTF document:
{\rtf1\ansi\ansicpg1252\cocoartf1038\cocoasubrtf360
{\fonttbl\f0\fswiss\fcharset0 Helvetica;}
{\colortbl;\red255\green255\blue255;}
\paperw11900\paperh16840\margl1440\margr1440\vieww9000\viewh8400\viewkind0
\pard\
And btw, you should receive a message from the list software with links
to the list FAQs, which detail various reasons why your messages might
not make it through.
http://music.columbia.edu/cmc/music-dsp/musicdspFAQ.admin.html
best,
douglas
On 2/25/12 2:20 PM, douglas repetto wrote:
Well
Well it looks like the problem was that you were sending non-plaintext!
The reason that you don't receive a rejection notice when sending
non-plaintext is that the messages aren't bounced, they're held for
moderation. In the old days I'd go in and approve such messages. Today
we get THOUSANDS
I've never had an email get through to this list, and I've never gotten a
rejection notice, which is sad b/c once or twice I've actually had something
constructive to say. (on two occasions, I've just email the original posters)
With this email, I am explicitly setting the format to plain, as su
It may be that Apple is adding something to the header indicating rich
text/html even though you don't end up with offending characters in the
email. The list software rejects email based on the headers, not on the
actual content.
There's no fundamental reason why the list can't accept html
I've had problems in the past when html-style font tags make their way into the
email. For instance, this happens in Apple's Mail.app. Even though it's not an
html email, per se, they sometimes get rejected (but not always). If I do Make
Plain Text from the Format menu before sedning, then they
Ok, my default Apple mail was set to "rich text format" in my preferences (not
HTML, which I know is a no-no). With that as default, somehow some postings go
through but others don't (and no, I wasn't doing any fancy italics or nothin').
I switched my default to "plain text" and it seems to wo
I wonder if your ISP is eating them somehow. Usually when posts don't go
through a bounce message is generated.
BTW, several people have had trouble posting recently because they were
sending HTML mail to the list. Please remember that you can only send
plaintext and no attachments.
best,
and some go through, some don't...
I don't see anything clearly spam-like in the posts that got dropped.
brad
On Feb 25, 2012, at 1:38 PM, Brad Garton wrote:
> Hey music-dsp-ers --
>
> Has anyone else experienced troubles getting posts to show up on our list?
> I've sent (and re-sent) severa
Hey music-dsp-ers --
Has anyone else experienced troubles getting posts to show up on our list?
I've sent (and re-sent) several this morning and they just vanished. I've
checked with douglas about it, but was wondering if anyone else has had
problems.
brad
http://music.columbia.edu/~brad
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