Re: [music-dsp] Nyquist–Shannon sampling theorem

2014-03-26 Thread Kenneth Ciszewski
As I remember it, the sampling theorem says that the sampling rate used to sample a signal must be at least twice the highest frequency being sampled in order to get a faithful reproduction when the samples are turned back into a (continuous) output signal. In practice, because it is necessary

Re: [music-dsp] Nyquist–Shannon sampling theorem

2014-03-26 Thread Doug Houghton
The application is music. I understand the basics, my question is in the constraints that might be imposed on the signal or functon as referenced by the theory. Is it understood to be repeating? for lack of a better term, essentually just a mash of frequencies that bever change from start to

Re: [music-dsp] Nyquistâ?Shannon sampling theorem

2014-03-26 Thread Doug Houghton
consider this from a wiki page A bandlimited signal can be fully reconstructed from its samples, provided that the sampling rate exceeds twice the maximum frequency in the bandlimited signal. This minimum sampling frequency is called the Nyquist rate. This result, usually attributed to

Re: [music-dsp] Nyquist–Shannon sampling theorem

2014-03-26 Thread Doug Houghton
sorry about all the attachments, didn't see that coming. -- dupswapdrop -- the music-dsp mailing list and website: subscription info, FAQ, source code archive, list archive, book reviews, dsp links http://music.columbia.edu/cmc/music-dsp http://music.columbia.edu/mailman/listinfo/music-dsp

Re: [music-dsp] Nyquist–Shannon sampling theorem

2014-03-26 Thread Nigel Redmon
Hi Doug, I think you’re overthinking this… There is the frequency-sensitive requirement that you can’t properly sample a signal that has frequencies higher than half the sample rate. For music, that’s not a problem, since our ears have a significant band limitation anyway. So, if we have a

Re: [music-dsp] Nyquist–Shannon sampling theorem

2014-03-26 Thread Doug Houghton
There is the frequency-sensitive requirement that you can’t properly sample a signal that has frequencies higher than half the sample rate. For music, that’s not a problem, since our ears have a significant band limitation anyway. This is intuitive. I think perhaps what I'm asking has

Re: [music-dsp] Nyquist–Shannon sampling theorem

2014-03-26 Thread Nigel Redmon
It's my understanding that the fourier theory says any signal can be created by summing various frequencies at various phases and amplitudes. OK, now recall that the Fourier series describes a subset of “any signal” with a subset of “various frequencies”. It’s more like one cycle of any

Re: [music-dsp] Nyquist–Shannon sampling theorem

2014-03-26 Thread Doug Houghton
so is there a requirement for the signal to be periodic? or can any series of numbers be cnsidered periodic if it is bandlimited, or infinit? Periodic is the best word I can come up with. -- dupswapdrop -- the music-dsp mailing list and website: subscription info, FAQ, source code archive,

Re: [music-dsp] Nyquist–Shannon sampling theorem

2014-03-26 Thread Thor Harald Johansen
I'm guessing this somehow scratches at the surface of what I've read about no signal being properly band limited unless it's infinit. You're talking about Sinc filtering (ideal low pass filter), which is essentially an IIR filter that needs infinite past and future samples. In practice, a

Re: [music-dsp] Nyquist–Shannon sampling theorem

2014-03-26 Thread Nigel Redmon
On Mar 26, 2014, at 10:07 PM, Doug Houghton doug_hough...@sympatico.ca wrote: so is there a requirement for the signal to be periodic? or can any series of numbers be cnsidered periodic if it is bandlimited, or infinit? Periodic is the best word I can come up with. -- Well, no—you can

Re: [music-dsp] Dither video and articles

2014-03-26 Thread Sampo Syreeni
On 2014-03-26, Nigel Redmon wrote: Maybe this would be interesting to some list members? A basic and intuitive explanation of audio dither: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWpWIQw7HWU Since it's been quiet and dither was mentioned... Is anybody interested in the development of subtractive