On 05/17/2011 10:27 PM, Lukáš Lalinský wrote:
> The original NGS documentation which was written by me [1] says that
> works with different remixes should be merged together. The Work page
> [2] however says that they should be kep separate. All people I've
> discussed this with agree that they s
Since the remix credits are at the recording level. Remixes are not separate
Works... and should be linked to the original work.
2011/5/18 Lukáš Lalinský
> The original NGS documentation which was written by me [1] says that
> works with different remixes should be merged together. The Work page
For me, Work name should be "Klavierkonzert Nr. 5 Es-Dur op. 73: III Rondo:
Allegro ma non troppo" in German and without "Emperor", name not given by
Beethoven.
"Concerto for Piano and Orchestra No. 5 in E-flat major, Op. 73 "Emperor":
III. Rondo. Allegro" could be an alias even if would prefer "Pi
2011/5/18 caller#6
>
> On 05/17/2011 03:38 PM, symphonick wrote:
> > This is what the guidelines say about work aliases:
> > "If a discrete work is known by name(s) or in language(s) other than its
> > canonical name, these are specified in the work’s aliases."
> >
> > How should this be used w.
The original NGS documentation which was written by me [1] says that
works with different remixes should be merged together. The Work page
[2] however says that they should be kep separate. All people I've
discussed this with agree that they should be merged. Can I change the
Work page to remove th
On 05/17/2011 03:38 PM, symphonick wrote:
> This is what the guidelines say about work aliases:
> "If a discrete work is known by name(s) or in language(s) other than its
> canonical name, these are specified in the work’s aliases."
>
> How should this be used w. classical stuff? What's the limit
This is what the guidelines say about work aliases:
"If a discrete work is known by name(s) or in language(s) other than its
canonical name, these are specified in the work’s aliases."
How should this be used w. classical stuff? What's the limit, can everyone
enter their own preferred work tit
Thank you!
Op 17-5-2011 20:15, Nikki schreef:
> I moved the wiki page to http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/CSG_Standard/Orff
>
> Nikki
>
> Maurits Meulenbelt wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I've created a wiki page for compositions by the German composer Carl Orff,
>> in the style of other composers listed
>>
I moved the wiki page to http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/CSG_Standard/Orff
Nikki
Maurits Meulenbelt wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I've created a wiki page for compositions by the German composer Carl Orff,
> in the style of other composers listed
> athttp://wiki.musicbrainz.org/CSGStandard
> Unfortunately
On Tue, 17 May 2011 19:49:03 +0200, Frederic Da Vitoria
wrote:
>> Since there is no recording aliases, we can't have a Russian & a French
>> recording name. Only one entry.
>>
>
> Ah, yes. I guess if we internationalize MB, we will have to offer
> multilingual recording names at some point. Unt
2011/5/17 symphonick
> On Tue, 17 May 2011 18:27:14 +0200, Frederic Da Vitoria
> wrote:
>
> > 2011/5/17 symphonick
> >
> >> On Tue, 17 May 2011 16:23:33 +0200, Frederic Da Vitoria
> >> wrote:
> >> >> Just found out that we don't have recording aliases, and I'm not
> >> sure we
> >> >> can tag
symphonick wrote:
> This is from the tracklist. If the limit for track name length is the same
> as before, we have to use the annotation for the full title.
There shouldn't be a limit now. Please feel free to test it and see. ;)
Nikki
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On Tue, 17 May 2011 18:27:14 +0200, Frederic Da Vitoria
wrote:
> 2011/5/17 symphonick
>
>> On Tue, 17 May 2011 16:23:33 +0200, Frederic Da Vitoria
>> wrote:
>> >> Just found out that we don't have recording aliases, and I'm not
>> sure we
>> >> can tag from works. I suppose this means that
On Tue, 17 May 2011 18:22:14 +0200, Maurits Meulenbelt
wrote:
> wherehttp://wiki.musicbrainz.org/CSGStandard/Orff would be appropriate)
> but I can't move it myself, could someone (like warp or kuno) move the
> page to the right place?
>
kuno / warp is one entity :-)
> I could also use so
2011/5/17 symphonick
> On Tue, 17 May 2011 16:23:33 +0200, Frederic Da Vitoria
> wrote:
> >> Just found out that we don't have recording aliases, and I'm not sure we
> >> can tag from works. I suppose this means that for now, recordings must
> >> be
> >> standardized?
> >>
> >
> > Anyhow, since
Hi all,
I've created a wiki page for compositions by the German composer Carl Orff, in
the style of other composers listed athttp://wiki.musicbrainz.org/CSGStandard
Unfortunately I created the page at the wrong place
(http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/orff
wherehttp://wiki.musicbrainz.org/CSGStandar
On Tue, 17 May 2011 17:27:26 +0200, caramel wrote:
>> > 4. Tracks with 2 or more works
>> > I'd rather use "space slash space" (in line with Track & Release
>> Titles
>> > [4]) for both examples.
>> >
>> Ugly example (this is two songs):
>> 27. BWV 244: 27a. Aria (Duett:Sopran, Alt) So ist mein
> > 4. Tracks with 2 or more works
> > I'd rather use "space slash space" (in line with Track & Release Titles
> > [4]) for both examples.
> >
> Ugly example (this is two songs):
> 27. BWV 244: 27a. Aria (Duett:Sopran, Alt) So ist mein Jesus nun gefangen
> / Chorus: Lasst ihn, haltet, bindet nicht
2011/5/17 caller#6
>
>
> On 05/16/2011 03:12 PM, symphonick wrote:
> > Can I ask you good people to have a look at my research page once again,
> I
> > can't come up with anything more to add for the moment. Will do
> > releasetitles tomorrow.
> > http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/User:symphonick/Unoff
On Tue, 17 May 2011 16:37:41 +0200, caller#6
wrote:
> My feeling is that (in a perfect world) an editor should be able to add
> a new release, "classical" or not, knowing only the general (non-CSG)
> guidelines[1]. Standardizing and merging the Works/Recordings/
> ReleaseGroups can be done late
On 05/17/2011 03:17 AM, symphonick wrote:
> http://ngs.musicbrainz.org/edit/14460112
>
> a short summary (this is mostly for 18th-century concertos):
> if the cadenza is a part of the movement like it is now on
> CSGstandardBeethoven:
> Concerto for Piano and Orchestra No. 3 in C minor, Op. 37: I
On Tue, 17 May 2011 16:23:33 +0200, Frederic Da Vitoria
wrote:
> 2011/5/17 symphonick
>
>>
>> my main point is that there's a
>> difference between a published collection of separate pieces and a
>> "super-work". In a symphony, you expect to hear movement IV after
>> movement
>> III. But not
On 05/16/2011 03:12 PM, symphonick wrote:
> Can I ask you good people to have a look at my research page once again, I
> can't come up with anything more to add for the moment. Will do
> releasetitles tomorrow.
> http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/User:symphonick/Unofficial_CSG_track_names
>
> /symphoni
2011/5/17 symphonick
>
> my main point is that there's a
> difference between a published collection of separate pieces and a
> "super-work". In a symphony, you expect to hear movement IV after movement
> III. But not organ chorales; no BWV 600 after BWV 599.
>
> But you wouldn't want to lose tit
2011/5/17 symphonick
> On Tue, 17 May 2011 14:50:17 +0200, caramel wrote:
>
>
> > I gave a link to a scan on allcdcovers...
> >
> http://www.allcdcovers.com/show/247049/erik_satie_pascal_roge_satie_3_gymnopdies_1984_retail_cd/back
>
> Thanks, the previous one didn't work here.
>
> > It is an Eur
2011/5/17 symphonick
> On Tue, 17 May 2011 13:11:05 +0200, Frederic Da Vitoria
> wrote:
>
> >> http://ngs.musicbrainz.org/edit/14460112
>
> > What if the cadenza is not indicated, for example in some low-cost
> > releases?
>
> then we don't add a link to a cadenza. It's not perfect, but IMHO it'
There is a "pseudo" artist
http://ngs.musicbrainz.org/search?query=gymnopedie&type=work
But the composer is not listed when searching for a work to "Relate to..." a
recording.
I post an edit http://ngs.musicbrainz.org/edit/14460777 to see where the
comment will appear... If it is useful for d
On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 4:35 PM, symphonick wrote:
> On Tue, 17 May 2011 14:50:17 +0200, caramel wrote:
>
>
>> I gave a link to a scan on allcdcovers...
>> http://www.allcdcovers.com/show/247049/erik_satie_pascal_roge_satie_3_gymnopdies_1984_retail_cd/back
>
> Thanks, the previous one didn't work
On Tue, 17 May 2011 14:50:17 +0200, caramel wrote:
> I gave a link to a scan on allcdcovers...
> http://www.allcdcovers.com/show/247049/erik_satie_pascal_roge_satie_3_gymnopdies_1984_retail_cd/back
Thanks, the previous one didn't work here.
> It is an European release (multi-language: French/E
> We can discuss specifics on the talkpage. Regardless of what we eventually
> decide about that specific piece, my main point is that there's a
> difference between a published collection of separate pieces and a
> "super-work". In a symphony, you expect to hear movement IV after movement
> III. B
2011/5/17 symphonick
>
> >> If it's a French tracklist, "N°.1" should be entered according to French
> >> spacing rules. (BTW link didn't work)
> >>
> > *Even if it is a French pianist, it was not a French release.
>
> It would be easier if you told us the language of the release :)
>
I gave a li
On Tue, 17 May 2011 13:47:00 +0200, caramel wrote:
>> "Trois Gymnopédies" - is this a multipart work (intended to play through
>> from 1-3) or 3 separate pieces? Looks like separate work?
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gymnop%C3%A9dies_%28Satie%29
> Just to resume, Satie used to write series o
What does everybody think of adding "Cardboard Gatefold" [1] and "Cardboard
Sleeve" [2] options to the Packaging drop-down?
Alternatively:
*Cardboard
*Gatefold
*Sleeve
*Other
Examples:
[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Made-in-Heaven-CD-Gatefold.jpg
[2]
http://www
>> If it's a French tracklist, "N°.1" should be entered according to French
>> spacing rules. (BTW link didn't work)
>>
> *Even if it is a French pianist, it was not a French release.
It would be easier if you told us the language of the release :)
>> > *comment:* piano: Pascal Rogé (1983)
> *
@symphony
>
> "Trois Gymnopédies" - is this a multipart work (intended to play through
> from 1-3) or 3 separate pieces? Looks like separate work?
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gymnop%C3%A9dies_%28Satie%29
>
> if separate, "Trois Gymnopédies" is not a workname and should not be in
> the work nam
On Tue, 17 May 2011 13:11:05 +0200, Frederic Da Vitoria
wrote:
>> http://ngs.musicbrainz.org/edit/14460112
> What if the cadenza is not indicated, for example in some low-cost
> releases?
then we don't add a link to a cadenza. It's not perfect, but IMHO it's
better than assuming a specifi
2011/5/17 symphonick
> http://ngs.musicbrainz.org/edit/14460112
>
> a short summary (this is mostly for 18th-century concertos):
> if the cadenza is a part of the movement like it is now on
> CSGstandardBeethoven:
> Concerto for Piano and Orchestra No. 3 in C minor, Op. 37: I. Allegro con
> brio
as alreasy said in the previous thread
in http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/Style/Track_and_release_titles
- "confusion the waitress" is not so good since in the actual MB
database, we find "Confusion the Waitress" as the track title.
- "FINAL FANTASY": there is the problem of upper-ca
http://ngs.musicbrainz.org/edit/14460112
a short summary (this is mostly for 18th-century concertos):
if the cadenza is a part of the movement like it is now on
CSGstandardBeethoven:
Concerto for Piano and Orchestra No. 3 in C minor, Op. 37: I. Allegro con
brio (cadenza: Ludwig van Beethoven)
2011/5/17 symphonick
> Can I ask you good people to have a look at my research page once again, I
> can't come up with anything more to add for the moment. Will do
> releasetitles tomorrow.
> http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/User:symphonick/Unofficial_CSG_track_names
>
>
Capitalization: "for the langu
2011/5/17 Frederic Da Vitoria
> 2011/5/16 symphonick
>
>>
>> > *Track #1*
>> > *title:* Gymnopédie No.1 * [just a copy from cover without space
>> > between "No." and "1"]
>>
>> If it's a French tracklist, "N°.1" should be entered according to French
>> spacing rules. (BTW link didn't work
2011/5/16 symphonick
>
> > *Track #1*
> > *title:* Gymnopédie No.1 * [just a copy from cover without space
> > between "No." and "1"]
>
> If it's a French tracklist, "N°.1" should be entered according to French
> spacing rules. (BTW link didn't work)
>
Just to be sure, you are stating your
2011/5/17 symphonick
>
> >> sticking to what's printed would still mean
> >> Title: String Quartet No.1 'The Kreutzer Sonata'
> >> 1. Subtitle: Adagio
> >> 2. Subtitle: Con moto
> >> 3. Subtitle: Con moto
> >> 4. Subtitle: Con moto (Adagio)
> >> and that you need to combine this into
> >> 1. Stri
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