Re: [mb-style] Removal of homeburnt discIds

2008-05-09 Thread Brian Gurtler
I'm a little out of the loop.. is MB hurting on disk space? removing DiscIDs is preventing people from using MBs data and forcing them to use gracenote or other such services. you say concept of burning downloaded music is in itself old fashioned i say..to quote The Dude 'that's like.. your

Re: [mb-style] Musicbrainz-style Digest, Vol 37, Issue 5

2008-05-09 Thread Brian Gurtler
AFAIK (maybe luks can correct me here if i'm wrong) gracenote doesn't even use the discIDs that MB uses. they use patteneted fuzzy methods that allow discids that differ slightly to point to the same data set. so in a way, yes.. they do have all homebrew IDs if not most. as to my understanding MB

Re: [mb-style] albums and single with the same title

2006-05-04 Thread Brian Gurtler
Date: Thu, 4 May 2006 12:30:07 +0100 From: Nikki [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [mb-style] albums and single with the same title To: MusicBrainz style discussion musicbrainz-style@lists.musicbrainz.org Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Thu,

Re: [mb-style] albums and single with the same title

2006-05-03 Thread Brian Gurtler
Steve Wyles wrote: On Wed, 3 May 2006, Brian Gurtler wrote: i think we need a way to differentiate singles form albums with the same name. For example Morphine has an album titled Cure for Pain they also have a single Cure for Pain as well. I have both ripped and tagged but they end up

Re: [mb-style] albums and single with the same title

2006-05-03 Thread Brian Gurtler
Steve Wyles wrote: On Wed, 3 May 2006, Brian Gurtler wrote: Steve Wyles wrote: On Wed, 3 May 2006, Brian Gurtler wrote: i think we need a way to differentiate singles form albums with the same name. For example Morphine has an album titled Cure for Pain they also have a single Cure

Re: [mb-style] albums and single with the same title

2006-05-03 Thread Brian Gurtler
Steve Wyles wrote: On Thu, 4 May 2006, Brian Gurtler wrote: Steve Wyles wrote: On Wed, 3 May 2006, Brian Gurtler wrote: Steve Wyles wrote: On Wed, 3 May 2006, Brian Gurtler wrote: i think we need a way to differentiate singles form albums with the same name. For example Morphine has

Re: [mb-style] AR philosophy

2006-05-02 Thread Brian Gurtler
Simon Reinhardt wrote: Hi, I have some questions about linking philosophy which I think need to be generally clearified because if every moderator follows their own concepts then we don't have consistent data. 1. Link performers to releases: a) always, including members of bands it'd

Re: [mb-style] Album attributes

2006-05-01 Thread Brian Gurtler
i am all for some kind of selective album attributes restructuring! to me this has been a long time coming and should be addressed. it's something that I've had trouble with very early on. does anyone know the status of any proposals that touch on this subject? Any way to get that whole thing

Re: [mb-style] Bootleg locations

2006-04-26 Thread Brian Gurtler
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 has deciding which language to use for a bootleg release become much of an issue on MB yet? i know that i previously said that the information should be the same as on the ticket of the event.. but now I'm starting to feel that we shouldn't have a

Re: [mb-style] LiveTrackStyle

2006-04-26 Thread Brian Gurtler
Peter Adams wrote: On Monday 03 April 2006 15:57, Brian Gurtler wrote: actually adding (live) to every single track on a live album is more complicated not to mention redundant. Why more complicated? Who are you quoting there? haha i don't know why i quoted it to be honest.. maybe i just

Re: [mb-style] Bootleg locations

2006-04-22 Thread Brian Gurtler
great email Nikki wrote: Hi, I was curious about the distribution of countries for bootlegs [1] and I noticed that the untitled bootleg style [2] doesn't really consist of much and live bootleg style [3] still doesn't expand the location very much. A general style appears to have emerged

Re: [mb-style] [RFV] MySpace AR request

2006-04-15 Thread Brian Gurtler
i'm all for this AR type. it's fairly easy to tell which myspace band pages are official and which are not... this is where voting will come in no? if someone think it's not official than they can vote no. Cristov Russell wrote: Beth wrote: With MySpace's growing popularity. There are some

Re: [mb-style] [RFV] MySpace AR request

2006-04-15 Thread Brian Gurtler
why should it not be official? if you want to link to a fan site, use the fan site AR, no? :) Frederic Da Vitoria wrote: 2006/4/15, Brian Gurtler [EMAIL PROTECTED]: i'm all for this AR type. it's fairly easy to tell which myspace band pages are official and which are not... this is where

Re: [mb-style] [RFV] MySpace AR request

2006-04-15 Thread Brian Gurtler
searching for Lance Bass.. no results match your request Cristov Russell wrote: i'm all for this AR type. it's fairly easy to tell which myspace band pages are official and which are not... this is where voting will come in no? if someone think it's not official than they can vote no.

Re: [mb-style] [RFV] MySpace AR request

2006-04-15 Thread Brian Gurtler
numerous the laws. Cornelius Tacitus -Original Message- From: Brian Gurtler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2006 2:09 PM To: Cristov Russell Cc: 'MusicBrainz style discussion' Subject: Re: [mb-style] [RFV] MySpace AR request searching for Lance Bass

Re: [mb-style] WTF DVD? (was: Veto - DVD in album titles)

2006-04-04 Thread Brian Gurtler
Beth wrote: My thoughts... Q1. Which DVDs to add? A1. All DVD musical rips. Arguments: it was argued MB was a music database. Music DVD's are based on music and bands. That in itself seems to be a good reason to add them. If MB is supposed to be an archive of band's music at

[mb-style] ok i'm wrong.. what about a performance date field for DVDs? (was WTF DVD?)

2006-04-04 Thread Brian Gurtler
a rip where the actual chapters do not directly line up with the official tracklist. For the cases where people just want to add the official tracklist plus some sort of DVDID like Steve suggested then it doesn't seem relevant to me. Brian Gurtler wrote: i'm talking about seperating audio

Re: [mb-style] ok i'm wrong.. what about a performance date field for DVDs? (was WTF DVD?)

2006-04-04 Thread Brian Gurtler
Chris Bransden wrote: On 04/04/06, Brian Gurtler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: what about an option to give live releases 2 titles? one with the live/bootleg style and one with any possible DVD title or even bootleg title? be able to select one of the two when tagging. hell maybe all releases

Re: [mb-style] LiveTrackStyle

2006-04-03 Thread Brian Gurtler
I'm not against a style to be used for naming live tracks. with this proposition, I'd like to see clarification on when to use these 10 proposed certain styles as well as exactly which parts of the proposal apply to non-album tracks only any of those ten examples would be okay to use? are cities

Re: [mb-style] LiveTrackStyle

2006-04-03 Thread Brian Gurtler
trackname (live) should not appear on any track on any live album. the album that the track resides on tells us that it's live. Chris Bransden wrote: both, IMO. i don't want a non-album track with 'TrackName (live)' as the title. but then, we also say that tracknames should be 'TrackName

Re: [mb-style] LiveTrackStyle

2006-04-03 Thread Brian Gurtler
i misread i guess. sorry. Chris Bransden wrote: i wasn't talking about live albums :) On 03/04/06, Brian Gurtler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: trackname (live) should not appear on any track on any live album. the album that the track resides on tells us that it's live. Chris Bransden wrote

Re: [mb-style] LiveTrackStyle

2006-04-03 Thread Brian Gurtler
actually adding (live) to every single track on a live album is more complicated not to mention redundant. Björn Krombholz wrote: On 4/3/06, Brian Gurtler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: trackname (live) should not appear on any track on any live album. the album that the track resides on tells us

Re: Call for StyleSecretary Help: Let's try discussing/deciding thisin IRC (was [mb-style] add instrument request: vacuum cleaner)

2006-03-27 Thread Brian Gurtler
incessant whining? and you call Me confrontational.. Robert Kaye wrote: On Mar 27, 2006, at 4:53 AM, Don Redman wrote: Well, then I'd say we should add this now and let Brian add the appropriate Relationships. I mean if we finally have a rule, we should use it :-) Yes, but Luks

Re: Call for StyleSecretary Help: Let's try discussing/deciding thisin IRC (was [mb-style] add instrument request: vacuum cleaner)

2006-03-27 Thread Brian Gurtler
looks whose whining now.. Robert Kaye wrote: On Mar 27, 2006, at 4:39 PM, Jan van Thiel wrote: I think that if e.g. inhouseuk (sorry to (ab)use your name, just giving an example), a moderator with a spotless record, had requested these, they would've been added almost instantaneously. I

Re: Call for StyleSecretary Help: Let's try discussing/deciding this in IRC (was [mb-style] add instrument request: vacuum cleaner)

2006-03-27 Thread Brian Gurtler
something to say. This is certainly nothing of interest, and documents why you are facing unwillingness if you request something. g0llum Behalf Of Brian Gurtler Sent: Dienstag, 28. März 2006 05:59 looks whose whining now.. ___ Musicbrainz

Re: [mb-style] add instrument request: vacuum cleaner

2006-03-25 Thread Brian Gurtler
, too, OK :-) BTW what is it instrument/other or instrument/wind/other? DonRedman Don Redman wrote: On Sat, 25 Mar 2006 05:37:02 +0100, Brian Gurtler wrote: at least one album and a ton of live shows it's already been established that it will be added as per Redman i'm tired

Re: Call for StyleSecretary Help: Let's try discussing/deciding this in IRC (was [mb-style] add instrument request: vacuum cleaner)

2006-03-24 Thread Brian Gurtler
not make you a good link editor -- in my opinion. I'm sorry. On Mar 6, 2006, at 8:20 AM, Brian Gurtler wrote: i have interest in this Instrument Secretary thing. Robert Kaye wrote: On Mar 3, 2006, at 7:47 AM, Don Redman wrote: No not a single Instrument, but I think that Mo's wholly new

Re: [mb-style] Veto - DVD in album titles

2006-03-05 Thread Brian Gurtler
I'm still confused as to why are we putting DVDs into MB? MB has no way of providing information to DVD players does it? like i said my opinion is if it's a DVD of a concert or performance, it doesn't belong in MB unless it's added as a bootleg. the word DVD won't even be an issue as the title

Re: [mb-style] request: cover of album-album relationship

2006-03-05 Thread Brian Gurtler
on the original album/track page, it should probably read albumtitle covered by coverartist which shows both that the album/track was covered, and by whom in one line. -b. azertus wrote: Don Redman schreef: The link phrase sounds weirt to my (nonnative) ears: Natty Dread is covered by Natty

[mb-style] request: cover of album-album relationship

2006-03-04 Thread Brian Gurtler
cover of should be an option and should go under the existing sub group covers or other versions Charlie Hunter Quartet - Natty Dread [1] _is a cover of_ Bob Marley - Natty Dread [2] I've opened a ticket for this at http://test.musicbrainz.org/trac/ticket/1097

Re: [mb-style] add instrument request: vacuum cleaner

2006-03-02 Thread Brian Gurtler
to create those relationships. Simon Reinhardt wrote: Brian Gurtler wrote: I've entered this into trac a while ago (12/13/05) and now it's in MB limbo http://test.musicbrainz.org/trac/ticket/63 anyhow.. not to get too far ahead of myself, i don't see any reason to be bashful with what

Re: [mb-style] DVD in album titles

2006-02-15 Thread Brian Gurtler
Orion wrote: Brian Gurtler wrote: no, it would not leave the entire database as bootleg. it would make the live concert DVD rips bootlegs where the source is the DVD (aka DSBD as far as live recording sources are labled outside of MB). Please expand on this, because it makes no sense

Re: [mb-style] DVD in album titles

2006-02-15 Thread Brian Gurtler
mud crow wrote: I think you are all looking at this from the wrong angle. If I own a DVD I can simply type the track details into MB, no need to rip anything or copy anything, exactly as I do with vinyl or tape. Or I could enter more precise data and rip the dvd and add times to the tracks

Re: [mb-style] DVD in album titles

2006-02-15 Thread Brian Gurtler
Orion wrote: Brian Gurtler wrote: which is basicly making a bootleg audio CD out of a DVD. Same as if you were to record the audio from a television performance on the late show with David Letterman. If it were an official release, you would have imported a CD not a ripped audio from