Re: [mb-style] Results of the Recordings IRC meetings

2013-01-25 Thread Frederic Da Vitoria
Recording suggests to some editors to merge Recordings which are completely different masters/transfers (sometimes separated by 20 years). So what do you suggest? -- Frederic Da Vitoria (davitof) Membre de l'April - « promouvoir et défendre le logiciel libre » - http://www.april.org

Re: [mb-style] pre-RFC: new work types

2013-01-25 Thread Frederic Da Vitoria
cultural reality does not bend to strict hierarchical analysis. -- Frederic Da Vitoria (davitof) Membre de l'April - « promouvoir et défendre le logiciel libre » - http://www.april.org ___ MusicBrainz-style mailing list MusicBrainz-style

Re: [mb-style] Results of the Recordings IRC meetings

2013-01-25 Thread Frederic Da Vitoria
2013/1/25 Edgars Ducens saluta...@gmail.com 2013/1/25 Frederic Da Vitoria davito...@gmail.com 2013/1/25 jacobbrett jacobbr...@hotmail.com I’ll repost what I wrote on the dev list http://musicbrainz.1054305.n4.nabble.com/Recordings-Masters-mb-dev-discussion-2012-01-23-td4647103.html

Re: [mb-style] Results of the Recordings IRC meetings

2013-01-25 Thread Frederic Da Vitoria
2013/1/25 Edgars Ducens saluta...@gmail.com 2013/1/25 Frederic Da Vitoria davito...@gmail.com 2013/1/25 Edgars Ducens saluta...@gmail.com 2013/1/25 Frederic Da Vitoria davito...@gmail.com 2013/1/25 jacobbrett jacobbr...@hotmail.com I’ll repost what I wrote on the dev list http

Re: [mb-style] Results of the Recordings IRC meetings

2013-01-25 Thread Frederic Da Vitoria
2013/1/25 Edgars Ducens saluta...@gmail.com 2013/1/25 Frederic Da Vitoria davito...@gmail.com 2013/1/25 Edgars Ducens saluta...@gmail.com 2013/1/25 Frederic Da Vitoria davito...@gmail.com 2013/1/25 Edgars Ducens saluta...@gmail.com 2013/1/25 Frederic Da Vitoria davito...@gmail.com

Re: [mb-style] Results of the Recordings IRC meetings

2013-01-25 Thread Frederic Da Vitoria
themselves. Are we to enter one AR for each new reissue? -- Frederic Da Vitoria (davitof) Membre de l'April - « promouvoir et défendre le logiciel libre » - http://www.april.org ___ MusicBrainz-style mailing list MusicBrainz-style@lists.musicbrainz.org

Re: [mb-style] Results of the Recordings IRC meetings

2013-01-25 Thread Frederic Da Vitoria
releases currently available are digitally enhanced. So this means that all those re-issues should mention the remastering engineers. Are we supposed to enter those ARs for each new release? Or even worse enter them as comments on each new re-release? -- Frederic Da Vitoria (davitof) Membre de l'April

Re: [mb-style] RFC: Artist Definite Article

2013-01-24 Thread Frederic Da Vitoria
Da Vitoria (davitof) Membre de l'April - « promouvoir et défendre le logiciel libre » - http://www.april.org ___ MusicBrainz-style mailing list MusicBrainz-style@lists.musicbrainz.org http://lists.musicbrainz.org/mailman/listinfo/musicbrainz-style

Re: [mb-style] RFC: Artist Definite Article

2013-01-24 Thread Frederic Da Vitoria
://wiki.musicbrainz.org/User:LordSputnik/Definite_Article Sorry for the confusion! Everything seems perfectly clear now! -- Frederic Da Vitoria (davitof) Membre de l'April - « promouvoir et défendre le logiciel libre » - http://www.april.org ___ MusicBrainz-style

Re: [mb-style] pre-RFC: new work types

2013-01-24 Thread Frederic Da Vitoria
use it for instrumental pieces. So I guess it would fit in Vocal or instrumental. -- Frederic Da Vitoria (davitof) Membre de l'April - « promouvoir et défendre le logiciel libre » - http://www.april.org ___ MusicBrainz-style mailing list MusicBrainz

Re: [mb-style] pre-RFC: new work types

2013-01-24 Thread Frederic Da Vitoria
I don't know much about anthem, but I can't recall anthem being used for instrumental music, while chorals are often purely instrumental. -- Frederic Da Vitoria (davitof) Membre de l'April - « promouvoir et défendre le logiciel libre » - http://www.april.org/ Le 25 janv. 2013 00:49, David

Re: [mb-style] pre-RFC: new work types

2013-01-24 Thread Frederic Da Vitoria
Silly, of course anthems are often played as instrumentals, but does there exist an anthem which wasn't composed originally for voices? -- Frederic Da Vitoria (davitof) Membre de l'April - « promouvoir et défendre le logiciel libre » - http://www.april.org/ Le 25 janv. 2013 00:53, Frederic Da

Re: [mb-style] pre-RFC: new work types

2013-01-24 Thread Frederic Da Vitoria
I guess that we will always find exceptions to any rule we try to set up :P So, do we still put anthems in vocal music or in vocal or instrumental? -- Frederic Da Vitoria (davitof) Membre de l'April - « promouvoir et défendre le logiciel libre » - http://www.april.org/ Le 25 janv. 2013 01:05

Re: [mb-style] RFC: Artist Definite Article

2013-01-23 Thread Frederic Da Vitoria
2013/1/23 LordSputnik ben.s...@gmail.com Please note, that date should say 2013, not 2012, unless I invent time travel in the next week. :) Could you add examples? This kind of rule can be tricky to understand for non-native speakers like me. -- Frederic Da Vitoria (davitof) Membre de

Re: [mb-style] RFC: Artist Definite Article

2013-01-23 Thread Frederic Da Vitoria
the proposed SG means, but I must read the last sentence twice to be sure I got it's exact meaning. Maybe my neurons getting sticky. -- Frederic Da Vitoria (davitof) Membre de l'April - « promouvoir et défendre le logiciel libre » - http://www.april.org

Re: [mb-style] Adding language attribute to URLs

2013-01-03 Thread Frederic Da Vitoria
2013/1/3 Kuno Woudt k...@frob.nl Hello, On 01/03/2013 04:40 PM, Frederic Da Vitoria wrote: I like this idea. But if the filtering option is ever implemented, I'd definitely want to have a list of languages instead of only one: I'd like to get pages in French and English. I suppose I'm

Re: [mb-style] RFC: Split No linguistic content lyric language

2012-11-08 Thread Frederic Da Vitoria
Le 8 nov. 2012 21:19, Nicolás Tamargo de Eguren reosare...@gmail.com a écrit : So, I was reading some music metadata stuff, from the Association of Musical Libraries, and found this: zxx should not be confused or combined with code und (“undetermined”) which is used both when the language

Re: [mb-style] RFC: Improve Guidelines on Merging Recordings

2012-11-08 Thread Frederic Da Vitoria
Le 8 nov. 2012 14:18, Profpatsch m...@profpatsch.de a écrit : having dozens of recordings that might or might not be unique (but are represented as unique due to separate recordings) in combination with the difficulties of not being able to share metadata between them is making me feel much

[mb-style] RFC: Improve Guidelines on Merging Recordings

2012-11-08 Thread Frederic Da Vitoria
find a definition of the limit between what they think should be separated and what should be merged. -- Frederic Da Vitoria (davitof) Membre de l'April - « promouvoir et défendre le logiciel libre » - http://www.april.org -- Frederic Da Vitoria (davitof) Membre de l'April - « promouvoir et

Re: [mb-style] RFC: Improve Guidelines on Merging Recordings

2012-11-07 Thread Frederic Da Vitoria
Le 7 nov. 2012 00:38, Frederic Da Vitoria davito...@gmail.com a écrit : Le 5 nov. 2012 13:10, Kuno Woudt k...@frob.nl a écrit : Hello, On 11/05/2012 12:25 PM, Frederic Da Vitoria wrote: Alex Mauer suggested Recording Groups earlier. This does not solve all issues, but it seems

Re: [mb-style] RFC: Improve Guidelines on Merging Recordings

2012-11-06 Thread Frederic Da Vitoria
Le 5 nov. 2012 13:10, Kuno Woudt k...@frob.nl a écrit : Hello, On 11/05/2012 12:25 PM, Frederic Da Vitoria wrote: Alex Mauer suggested Recording Groups earlier. This does not solve all issues, but it seems to be a step in the right direction. I would be opposed to this. I've explained

Re: [mb-style] RFC: Improve Guidelines on Merging Recordings

2012-11-05 Thread Frederic Da Vitoria
those two things in the same place? Alex Mauer suggested Recording Groups earlier. This does not solve all issues, but it seems to be a step in the right direction. -- Frederic Da Vitoria (davitof) Membre de l'April - « promouvoir et défendre le logiciel libre » - http://www.april.org

Re: [mb-style] RFC: Improve Guidelines on Merging Recordings

2012-11-05 Thread Frederic Da Vitoria
2012/11/5 symphonick symphon...@gmail.com 2012/11/4 Frederic Da Vitoria davito...@gmail.com 2012/11/3 symphonick symphon...@gmail.com There can be many reasons for why you prefer one copy over another, and most of these reasons have absolutely nothing to do with if the master recording

Re: [mb-style] RFC: Improve Guidelines on Merging Recordings

2012-11-04 Thread Frederic Da Vitoria
2012/11/3 symphonick symphon...@gmail.com 2012/11/3 Frederic Da Vitoria davito...@gmail.com 2012/11/2 Sheamus Patt musicbrainz.r...@ncf.ca Recordings are often shared now let's not destroy Recordings by merging them. Again, this part of the proposal would mean _splitting_ - creating

Re: [mb-style] RFC: Improve Guidelines on Merging Recordings

2012-11-03 Thread Frederic Da Vitoria
://www.amazon.fr/gp/product/2070556778?tag=musicbrainz0e-21 On Sat, Nov 3, 2012 at 12:22 AM, Frederic Da Vitoria davito...@gmail.comwrote: 2012/11/2 Sheamus Patt musicbrainz.r...@ncf.ca On 11/02/2012 12:14 PM, Alex Mauer wrote: On 11/01/2012 08:06 PM, Sheamus Patt wrote: Simply

Re: [mb-style] RFC: Improve Guidelines on Merging Recordings

2012-11-02 Thread Frederic Da Vitoria
. that the originals might have had. How many Recordings are we speaking of? Or rather what is the proportion of digital mediums versus analog mediums currently in MB? -- Frederic Da Vitoria (davitof) Membre de l'April - « promouvoir et défendre le logiciel libre » - http://www.april.org

Re: [mb-style] RFC: Improve Guidelines on Merging Recordings

2012-11-01 Thread Frederic Da Vitoria
2012/11/1 lorenz pressler l...@gmx.at Frederic Da Vitoria davito...@gmail.com: [...] someone who simply would want to recover the sound he remembers from before the recording was digitally enhanced :-( There are tracks for which I would definitely like to know if their dynamics

Re: [mb-style] RFC: Improve Guidelines on Merging Recordings

2012-10-31 Thread Frederic Da Vitoria
:-( There are tracks for which I would definitely like to know if their dynamics were compressed or not, and I hope someday MB will help me find them. -- Frederic Da Vitoria (davitof) Membre de l'April - « promouvoir et défendre le logiciel libre » - http://www.april.org

Re: [mb-style] [CSG] Works structure super-works

2012-10-30 Thread Frederic Da Vitoria
2012/10/30 symphonick symphon...@gmail.com 2012/10/29 Frederic Da Vitoria davito...@gmail.com 2012/10/29 symphonick symphon...@gmail.com 2012/10/29 Frederic Da Vitoria davito...@gmail.com 2012/10/29 symphonick symphon...@gmail.com 2012/10/29 Frederic Da Vitoria davito...@gmail.com 2012

Re: [mb-style] Discussion: on the attributes for the orchestra relationship

2012-10-30 Thread Frederic Da Vitoria
ensemble? Why would Kronos Quartet ''performed'' not be enough? I'd maintain orchestra performed though. It comes in handy for big stuff like opera with many different relationships. On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 11:15 PM, Frederic Da Vitoria davito...@gmail.com wrote: 2012/10/29 Nicolás Tamargo de

Re: [mb-style] [CSG] Works structure super-works

2012-10-30 Thread Frederic Da Vitoria
2012/10/30 symphonick symphon...@gmail.com 2012/10/30 Frederic Da Vitoria davito...@gmail.com 2012/10/30 symphonick symphon...@gmail.com 2012/10/29 Frederic Da Vitoria davito...@gmail.com 2012/10/29 symphonick symphon...@gmail.com 2012/10/29 Frederic Da Vitoria davito...@gmail.com 2012

Re: [mb-style] [CSG] Works structure super-works

2012-10-30 Thread Frederic Da Vitoria
2012/10/30 symphonick symphon...@gmail.com 2012/10/30 Frederic Da Vitoria davito...@gmail.com 2012/10/30 symphonick symphon...@gmail.com 2012/10/30 Frederic Da Vitoria davito...@gmail.com 2012/10/30 symphonick symphon...@gmail.com 2012/10/29 Frederic Da Vitoria davito...@gmail.com 2012

Re: [mb-style] [CSG] Works structure super-works

2012-10-30 Thread Frederic Da Vitoria
2012/10/30 symphonick symphon...@gmail.com 2012/10/30 Frederic Da Vitoria davito...@gmail.com 2012/10/30 symphonick symphon...@gmail.com 2012/10/30 Frederic Da Vitoria davito...@gmail.com 2012/10/30 symphonick symphon...@gmail.com 2012/10/30 Frederic Da Vitoria davito...@gmail.com 2012

Re: [mb-style] [CSG] Works structure super-works

2012-10-29 Thread Frederic Da Vitoria
2012/10/26 symphonick symphon...@gmail.com 2012/10/25 Frederic Da Vitoria davito...@gmail.com 2012/10/25 Alex Mauer ha...@hawkesnest.net On 10/25/2012 05:31 AM, symphonick wrote: I'd like to get a works-structure guideline in place, and one thing we've been talking about before is so

Re: [mb-style] Discussion: on the attributes for the orchestra relationship

2012-10-29 Thread Frederic Da Vitoria
of artist subtype, which could also include stuff like string trio, string quartet, piano trio, male choir, or whatever. But I might be missing its recording-specific uses :) +1 +1, definitely -- Frederic Da Vitoria (davitof) Membre de l'April - « promouvoir et défendre le logiciel libre

Re: [mb-style] Discussion: on the attributes for the orchestra relationship

2012-10-29 Thread Frederic Da Vitoria
. What do you suggest to use for trios, quartet or quintet ensembles? -- Frederic Da Vitoria (davitof) Membre de l'April - « promouvoir et défendre le logiciel libre » - http://www.april.org ___ MusicBrainz-style mailing list MusicBrainz-style

Re: [mb-style] [CSG] Works structure super-works

2012-10-29 Thread Frederic Da Vitoria
2012/10/29 symphonick symphon...@gmail.com 2012/10/29 Frederic Da Vitoria davito...@gmail.com 2012/10/26 symphonick symphon...@gmail.com 2012/10/25 Frederic Da Vitoria davito...@gmail.com 2012/10/25 Alex Mauer ha...@hawkesnest.net On 10/25/2012 05:31 AM, symphonick wrote: I'd like

Re: [mb-style] [CSG] Works structure super-works

2012-10-29 Thread Frederic Da Vitoria
2012/10/29 symphonick symphon...@gmail.com 2012/10/29 Frederic Da Vitoria davito...@gmail.com 2012/10/29 symphonick symphon...@gmail.com 2012/10/29 Frederic Da Vitoria davito...@gmail.com 2012/10/26 symphonick symphon...@gmail.com 2012/10/25 Frederic Da Vitoria davito...@gmail.com 2012

Re: [mb-style] Discussion: on the attributes for the orchestra relationship

2012-10-29 Thread Frederic Da Vitoria
2012/10/29 Nicolás Tamargo de Eguren reosare...@gmail.com On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 9:15 PM, Frederic Da Vitoria davito...@gmail.comwrote: 2012/10/29 Nicolás Tamargo de Eguren reosare...@gmail.com On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 5:42 PM, Lemire, Sebastien m...@benji99.cawrote: I agree

Re: [mb-style] Discussion: on the attributes for the orchestra relationship

2012-10-29 Thread Frederic Da Vitoria
2012/10/29 Nicolás Tamargo de Eguren reosare...@gmail.com On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 11:56 PM, Frederic Da Vitoria davito...@gmail.com wrote: 2012/10/29 Nicolás Tamargo de Eguren reosare...@gmail.com On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 9:15 PM, Frederic Da Vitoria davito...@gmail.com wrote: 2012/10

Re: [mb-style] [CSG] Works structure super-works

2012-10-25 Thread Frederic Da Vitoria
Recording button would be a nice idea. -- Frederic Da Vitoria (davitof) Membre de l'April - « promouvoir et défendre le logiciel libre » - http://www.april.org ___ MusicBrainz-style mailing list MusicBrainz-style@lists.musicbrainz.org http

Re: [mb-style] [CSG] Works structure super-works

2012-10-25 Thread Frederic Da Vitoria
2012/10/25 symphonick symphon...@gmail.com 2012/10/25 Frederic Da Vitoria davito...@gmail.com 2012/10/25 symphonick symphon...@gmail.com Examples: Super-work: The Lark Ascending Work: The Lark Ascending by Ralph Vaughan Williams (1914 violin piano version) Work: The Lark Ascending

Re: [mb-style] [CSG] Works structure super-works

2012-10-25 Thread Frederic Da Vitoria
cover what I meant. -- Frederic Da Vitoria (davitof) Membre de l'April - « promouvoir et défendre le logiciel libre » - http://www.april.org ___ MusicBrainz-style mailing list MusicBrainz-style@lists.musicbrainz.org http://lists.musicbrainz.org/mailman

Re: [mb-style] [CSG] Works structure super-works

2012-10-25 Thread Frederic Da Vitoria
at the top level, and then “version of”-related works below that. Not necessarily at firrst, this is a hen and egg situation :-) -- Frederic Da Vitoria (davitof) Membre de l'April - « promouvoir et défendre le logiciel libre » - http://www.april.org

Re: [mb-style] Small conflict between two guidelines

2012-10-11 Thread Frederic Da Vitoria
to the section What should not be grouped together) I can't think of any reason why this principle would apply only to soundtracks. Alex / caller#6 I don't either, especially since alternate language soundtracks are often much more musically similar than in other kinds of music. -- Frederic Da

Re: [mb-style] pre-RFC: When does the CSG apply?

2012-09-30 Thread Frederic Da Vitoria
classical music) is often packaged by people who seem to have more experience in selling vacuum cleaners and soap than cultural products(when you think of it, using the word product says it all). They don't know or care what they are selling, they apply recipes. -- Frederic Da Vitoria (davitof

Re: [mb-style] RFC STYLE 153: Add lieder.net to the lyrics whitelist

2012-09-28 Thread Frederic Da Vitoria
://tickets.musicbrainz.org/browse/STYLE-153 Expected RFV date is 2012-10-05 It is at least an interesting reference! -- Frederic Da Vitoria (davitof) Membre de l'April - « promouvoir et défendre le logiciel libre » - http://www.april.org ___ MusicBrainz

Re: [mb-style] Artist disambiguation comments

2012-09-24 Thread Frederic Da Vitoria
2012/9/24 Mihkel Tõnnov mihh...@gmail.com 2012/9/24 Staffan Vilcans lift...@interface1.net Frederic Da Vitoria wrote: Am I correct, should these comments be removed, and should our documentation http://musicbrainz.org/doc/Disambiguation_Comment be more specific and state

Re: [mb-style] Artist disambiguation comments

2012-09-24 Thread Frederic Da Vitoria
2012/9/25 lorenz pressler l...@gmx.at Am 23.09.2012, 16:01 Uhr, schrieb Frederic Da Vitoria davito...@gmail.com: Good point, the instrument could be useful. But then wouldn't trumpet or bassoon be enough? Or should we request to be able to switch on and off the disambiguation comments

[mb-style] CSG in the documentation

2012-09-23 Thread Frederic Da Vitoria
-- Frederic Da Vitoria (davitof) Membre de l'April - « promouvoir et défendre le logiciel libre » - http://www.april.org ___ MusicBrainz-style mailing list MusicBrainz-style@lists.musicbrainz.org http://lists.musicbrainz.org/mailman/listinfo/musicbrainz

Re: [mb-style] CSG in the documentation

2012-09-23 Thread Frederic Da Vitoria
2012/9/23 Nicolás Tamargo de Eguren reosare...@gmail.com On Sun, Sep 23, 2012 at 3:53 PM, Frederic Da Vitoria davito...@gmail.comwrote: Hello, I know that we are far from having a stable CSG for NGS, but the current state of our classical documentation does not make sense IMO. http

[mb-style] Artist disambiguation comments

2012-09-23 Thread Frederic Da Vitoria
? -- Frederic Da Vitoria (davitof) Membre de l'April - « promouvoir et défendre le logiciel libre » - http://www.april.org ___ MusicBrainz-style mailing list MusicBrainz-style@lists.musicbrainz.org http://lists.musicbrainz.org/mailman/listinfo/musicbrainz

Re: [mb-style] CSG in the documentation

2012-09-23 Thread Frederic Da Vitoria
2012/9/23 Nicolás Tamargo de Eguren reosare...@gmail.com On Sun, Sep 23, 2012 at 4:12 PM, Frederic Da Vitoria davito...@gmail.comwrote: 2012/9/23 Nicolás Tamargo de Eguren reosare...@gmail.com On Sun, Sep 23, 2012 at 3:53 PM, Frederic Da Vitoria davito...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I

Re: [mb-style] Artist disambiguation comments

2012-09-23 Thread Frederic Da Vitoria
2012/9/23 Nicolás Tamargo de Eguren reosare...@gmail.com On Sun, Sep 23, 2012 at 4:08 PM, Frederic Da Vitoria davito...@gmail.comwrote: Hello, Recently I stumbled upon these: http://musicbrainz.org/artist/19236d8d-6a51-4e49-b8f6-428c0ede05aa http://musicbrainz.org/artist/9451da6f-9d1f

Re: [mb-style] [CSG] conductor credit

2012-09-02 Thread Frederic Da Vitoria
appreciate it to be lightly more normalized within CSG. If we define an order, roles become unnecessary. -- Frederic Da Vitoria (davitof) Membre de l'April - « promouvoir et défendre le logiciel libre » - http://www.april.org ___ MusicBrainz-style

Re: [mb-style] [CSG] conductor credit

2012-09-02 Thread Frederic Da Vitoria
of it falls into the categories you mention. Brant Gibbard Toronto, ON http://bgibbard.ca -- *From:* musicbrainz-style-boun...@lists.musicbrainz.org [mailto: musicbrainz-style-boun...@lists.musicbrainz.org] *On Behalf Of *Frederic Da Vitoria *Sent:* September

Re: [mb-style] RFC: Split No linguistic content lyric language

2012-08-28 Thread Frederic Da Vitoria
2012/8/28 Nicolás Tamargo de Eguren reosare...@gmail.com On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 9:54 PM, Frederic Da Vitoria davito...@gmail.comwrote: 2012/8/15 jacobbrett jacobbr...@hotmail.com Nicolás Tamargo de Eguren wrote On Sat, Jul 28, 2012 at 2:45 PM, Frederic Da Vitoria davitofrg@ wrote

Re: [mb-style] Remasters and remastered recordings

2012-08-24 Thread Frederic Da Vitoria
not define a master is bound to increase, I don't think that defining masters would be worth the trouble. -- Frederic Da Vitoria (davitof) Membre de l'April - « promouvoir et défendre le logiciel libre » - http://www.april.org ___ MusicBrainz-style mailing list

Re: [mb-style] Remasters and remastered recordings

2012-08-23 Thread Frederic Da Vitoria
MusicBrainz-style@lists.musicbrainz.org http://lists.musicbrainz.org/mailman/listinfo/musicbrainz-style -- Frederic Da Vitoria (davitof) Membre de l'April - « promouvoir et défendre le logiciel libre » - http://www.april.org ___ MusicBrainz-style

Re: [mb-style] RFC: Split No linguistic content lyric language

2012-08-15 Thread Frederic Da Vitoria
2012/8/15 jacobbrett jacobbr...@hotmail.com Nicolás Tamargo de Eguren wrote On Sat, Jul 28, 2012 at 2:45 PM, Frederic Da Vitoria davitofrg@ wrote: On a distinct subject, under which sub-category would humming and vocalising be stored? I am guessing it should be No lyrics, but some

Re: [mb-style] RFC: Split No linguistic content lyric language

2012-08-14 Thread Frederic Da Vitoria
2012/8/14 Nicolás Tamargo de Eguren reosare...@gmail.com On Sat, Jul 28, 2012 at 2:45 PM, Frederic Da Vitoria davito...@gmail.com wrote: 2012/7/28 Nicolás Tamargo de Eguren reosare...@gmail.com On Sat, Jul 28, 2012 at 2:17 PM, Frederic Da Vitoria davito...@gmail.com wrote: 2012/7/28

Re: [mb-style] Fwd: Can a single release be ARd to a box set amazon reference?

2012-08-13 Thread Frederic Da Vitoria
2012/8/13 jesus2099 hta3s836gzac...@jetable.org This mailing list stuff is so osbolete ! Yup, just like me:I'm obsolete too. But there's not much I can do about it. -- Frederic Da Vitoria (davitof) Membre de l'April - « promouvoir et défendre le logiciel libre » - http://www.april.org

Re: [mb-style] Fwd: Can a single release be ARd to a box set amazon reference?

2012-08-12 Thread Frederic Da Vitoria
2012/8/12 Wieland Hoffmann themi...@gmail.com Hallo Frederic Da Vitoria: This belongs to MB-Users but I don't know why, it bounced, mb-users seems not to know me any more. -- Forwarded message -- From: Frederic Da Vitoria davito...@gmail.com Date: 2012/8/11 Subject

[mb-style] Fwd: Can a single release be ARd to a box set amazon reference?

2012-08-11 Thread Frederic Da Vitoria
This belongs to MB-Users but I don't know why, it bounced, mb-users seems not to know me any more. -- Forwarded message -- From: Frederic Da Vitoria davito...@gmail.com Date: 2012/8/11 Subject: Can a single release be ARd to a box set amazon reference? To: musicbrainz-us

Re: [mb-style] RFC: Split No linguistic content lyric language

2012-07-28 Thread Frederic Da Vitoria
to anything in MB apart from noises recordings. Why do we have to use each item of the ISO list in a 1 to 1 relation? Wouldn't it be better to be able to say that these 2 options, No linguistic content and Gibberish are subdivisions of NLC? -- Frederic Da Vitoria (davitof) Membre de l'April - « promouvoir

Re: [mb-style] RFC: Split No linguistic content lyric language

2012-07-28 Thread Frederic Da Vitoria
2012/7/28 Nicolás Tamargo de Eguren reosare...@gmail.com On Sat, Jul 28, 2012 at 2:17 PM, Frederic Da Vitoria davito...@gmail.com wrote: 2012/7/28 Nicolás Tamargo de Eguren reosare...@gmail.com On Sat, Jul 28, 2012 at 9:16 AM, Rachel Dwight hibiscuskazen...@gmail.com wrote: Ticket

Re: [mb-style] RFC: STYLE-135 - Release restructuring

2012-07-14 Thread Frederic Da Vitoria
would not allow correct ordering (roman numerals). -- Frederic Da Vitoria (davitof) Membre de l'April - « promouvoir et défendre le logiciel libre » - http://www.april.org ___ MusicBrainz-style mailing list MusicBrainz-style@lists.musicbrainz.org http

Re: [mb-style] RFC: STYLE-135 - Release restructuring

2012-07-14 Thread Frederic Da Vitoria
2012/7/14 Frederic Da Vitoria davito...@gmail.com 2012/7/10 jacobbrett jacobbr...@hotmail.com Jaakko Perttilä wrote This proposal aims to implement a complete support for release layout/data. Proposed format is able to accommodate any release I've seen. Summary: Medium

Re: [mb-style] RFC: New AR Stylist

2012-07-14 Thread Frederic Da Vitoria
2012/7/14 caller#6 meatbyproduct-musicbra...@yahoo.com ** On 07/13/2012 12:45 PM, Frederic Da Vitoria wrote: 2012/7/13 Staffan Vilcans lift...@interface1.net That would be like including the person who drove the band to the studio. It's so many steps removed from the recording

Re: [mb-style] RFC: New AR Stylist

2012-07-13 Thread Frederic Da Vitoria
with music, we will probably have issues drawing the line. Does the technician who repaired the guitar qualify? Or whoever tuned the piano? -- Frederic Da Vitoria (davitof) Membre de l'April - « promouvoir et défendre le logiciel libre » - http://www.april.org

Re: [mb-style] Proposal: New work types (“film”, “TV show”, “video game”, “board game”, “score”) and AR (“score for”)

2012-07-02 Thread Frederic Da Vitoria
acting in the film Dune (although Sting is primarily a musician) is not the kind of information which MB is meant to contain. -- Frederic Da Vitoria (davitof) Membre de l'April - « promouvoir et défendre le logiciel libre » - http://www.april.org

Re: [mb-style] RFC STYLE 132: Remove voting differences for data quality

2012-07-02 Thread Frederic Da Vitoria
out. -- Frederic Da Vitoria (davitof) Membre de l'April - « promouvoir et défendre le logiciel libre » - http://www.april.org ___ MusicBrainz-style mailing list MusicBrainz-style@lists.musicbrainz.org http://lists.musicbrainz.org/mailman/listinfo

Re: [mb-style] Proposal: New work types (“film”, “TV show”, “video game”, “board game”, “score”) and AR (“score for”)

2012-06-29 Thread Frederic Da Vitoria
was written for a film/show/game or if it happens to be used only in the soundtrack. But this kind of difficulty occurs elsewhere. -- Frederic Da Vitoria (davitof) Membre de l'April - « promouvoir et défendre le logiciel libre » - http://www.april.org

Re: [mb-style] RFC probably

2012-06-28 Thread Frederic Da Vitoria
2012/6/28 jesus2099 hta3s836gzac...@jetable.org Addition of the signs (attributes) “probably” and “either… or” to relationships See discussion in http://tickets.musicbrainz.org/browse/STYLE-130 +1 +1 from me. Being able to enter uncertain data is very important IMO. -- Frederic Da Vitoria

Re: [mb-style] RFC STYLE-121

2012-06-07 Thread Frederic Da Vitoria
? Shouldn't we insert a 0 and use A01..A09, A10 at least in this case? -- Frederic Da Vitoria (davitof) Membre de l'April - « promouvoir et défendre le logiciel libre » - http://www.april.org ___ MusicBrainz-style mailing list MusicBrainz-style

Re: [mb-style] Support disambiguation of recording masters

2012-05-18 Thread Frederic Da Vitoria
sense. So I am voting yes on this edit. -- Frederic Da Vitoria (davitof) Membre de l'April - « promouvoir et défendre le logiciel libre » - http://www.april.org ___ MusicBrainz-style mailing list MusicBrainz-style@lists.musicbrainz.org http

Re: [mb-style] On artist intent reasoning

2012-05-16 Thread Frederic Da Vitoria
can't spell). Am I reading this wrong? :) Well, I agree it would be better to at least add a few examples. Currently, the only examples are when not to apply the SG :-) -- Frederic Da Vitoria (davitof) Membre de l'April - « promouvoir et défendre le logiciel libre » - http://www.april.org

Re: [mb-style] On artist intent reasoning

2012-05-16 Thread Frederic Da Vitoria
2012/5/16 Frederic Da Vitoria davito...@gmail.com 2012/5/16 Nicolás Tamargo de Eguren reosare...@gmail.com Hi! http://musicbrainz.org/doc/Style/Principle/Artist_intent#Exception:_Spelling.2C_Punctuation_and_Grammar says [...] or creating new imaginary words for stylistic purposes

Re: [mb-style] pre-RFC: Some style for classical works

2012-05-14 Thread Frederic Da Vitoria
2012/5/13 symphonick symphon...@gmail.com 2012/5/13 Frederic Da Vitoria davito...@gmail.com 2012/5/13 symphonick symphon...@gmail.com 2012/5/11 Nicolás Tamargo de Eguren reosare...@gmail.com On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 10:41 PM, Rupert Swarbrick rswarbr...@gmail.com wrote: Alex Mauer ha

Re: [mb-style] pre-RFC: Some style for classical works

2012-05-14 Thread Frederic Da Vitoria
2012/5/14 symphonick symphon...@gmail.com 2012/5/14 Frederic Da Vitoria davito...@gmail.com 2012/5/13 symphonick symphon...@gmail.com 2012/5/13 Frederic Da Vitoria davito...@gmail.com 2012/5/13 symphonick symphon...@gmail.com 2012/5/11 Nicolás Tamargo de Eguren reosare...@gmail.com

Re: [mb-style] pre-RFC: Some style for classical works

2012-05-13 Thread Frederic Da Vitoria
, I would store even the original composer's cadenza in a separate line in the Work table. This would allow to separate recordings with unknown/unspecified cadenza from those actually using the original cadenza. -- Frederic Da Vitoria (davitof) Membre de l'April - « promouvoir et défendre le

Re: [mb-style] Support disambiguation of recording masters

2012-05-13 Thread Frederic Da Vitoria
which would be the starting point and one Master for each significantly different release? If so we would be pretty close to the common world definitions of recording and master. -- Frederic Da Vitoria (davitof) Membre de l'April - « promouvoir et défendre le logiciel libre » - http://www.april.org

Re: [mb-style] pre-RFC2-320: Revised Sort Name Style - identifying the problems that need fixing

2012-05-12 Thread Frederic Da Vitoria
2012/5/12 caller#6 meatbyproduct-musicbra...@yahoo.com On 05/11/2012 04:27 PM, Frederic Da Vitoria wrote: 2012/5/11 caller#6 meatbyproduct-musicbra...@yahoo.com Before we can talk about how to format sort names, it seem like we should agree on a target algorithm. Knowing what is most

Re: [mb-style] pre-RFC2-320: Revised Sort Name Style - identifying the problems that need fixing

2012-05-11 Thread Frederic Da Vitoria
Conclusion: I guess Android apps ask some common Android routine to do the sorting, while each Windows app had to find it's own way to implement it. -- Frederic Da Vitoria (davitof) Membre de l'April - « promouvoir et défendre le logiciel libre » - http://www.april.org

Re: [mb-style] Sort Names: sorting vs. grouping ?

2012-05-10 Thread Frederic Da Vitoria
2012/5/10 Ross Tyler rossety...@gmail.com On 05/09/2012 09:41 AM, Nicolás Tamargo de Eguren wrote: On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 7:22 PM, Frederic Da Vitoriadavito...@gmail.com wrote: 2012/5/9 Nicolás Tamargo de Egurenreosare...@gmail.com On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 6:58 PM, Frederic Da Vitoria

Re: [mb-style] Sort Names: sorting vs. grouping ?

2012-05-09 Thread Frederic Da Vitoria
the different parts of a name. Furthermore, separating the parts would probably help in creating a sort which adapts to different cultural rules. -- Frederic Da Vitoria (davitof) Membre de l'April - « promouvoir et défendre le logiciel libre » - http://www.april.org

Re: [mb-style] Support disambiguation of recording masters

2012-05-09 Thread Frederic Da Vitoria
then Master, while jacobbrett sets the master first. In other words, what jacobbrett calls master is not what is called generally a master in the music industry. -- Frederic Da Vitoria (davitof) Membre de l'April - « promouvoir et défendre le logiciel libre » - http://www.april.org

Re: [mb-style] Support disambiguation of recording masters

2012-05-09 Thread Frederic Da Vitoria
a new AR, if the sound engineer was simply inherited from the original master. I understand the word Master is not correct. It is about as misleading as Recording or Work. In the real world, a master is something pretty specific (probably more so than a work ;-) ) -- Frederic Da Vitoria (davitof

Re: [mb-style] Sort Names: sorting vs. grouping ?

2012-05-09 Thread Frederic Da Vitoria
2012/5/9 jacobbrett jacobbr...@hotmail.com Frederic Da Vitoria wrote 2012/5/9 Nicolás Tamargo de Eguren reosarevok@ I think this is best solvable with better metadata and player interfaces. Much of this is solvable with current metadata and player interfaces - just make the MB

Re: [mb-style] Sort Names: sorting vs. grouping ?

2012-05-09 Thread Frederic Da Vitoria
2012/5/9 Nicolás Tamargo de Eguren reosare...@gmail.com On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 6:58 PM, Frederic Da Vitoria davito...@gmail.com wrote: 2012/5/9 jacobbrett jacobbr...@hotmail.com Frederic Da Vitoria wrote 2012/5/9 Nicolás Tamargo de Eguren reosarevok@ I think this is best

Re: [mb-style] Sort Names: sorting vs. grouping ?

2012-05-08 Thread Frederic Da Vitoria
as the keywords in photos. This would allow any given music file to appear under any of the keywords which it would have without having to physically duplicate the file itself. Of course, again, such a system would more useful if music players use this feature. -- Frederic Da Vitoria (davitof) Membre de

Re: [mb-style] pre-RFC2-320: Revised Sort Name Style - identifying the problems that need fixing

2012-05-07 Thread Frederic Da Vitoria
:-) -- Frederic Da Vitoria (davitof) Membre de l'April - « promouvoir et défendre le logiciel libre » - http://www.april.org ___ MusicBrainz-style mailing list MusicBrainz-style@lists.musicbrainz.org http://lists.musicbrainz.org/mailman/listinfo

Re: [mb-style] Pre-RFC: Mixtape as RG subtype

2012-05-07 Thread Frederic Da Vitoria
. So, I think it is not correct to refer to such a release as a compilation, despite the publisher marketing it as such. What about compilations with a previously unreleased track? -- Frederic Da Vitoria (davitof) Membre de l'April - « promouvoir et défendre le logiciel libre » - http

Re: [mb-style] Recordings from different media types and/or with different number of channels

2012-05-06 Thread Frederic Da Vitoria
. -- Frederic Da Vitoria (davitof) Membre de l'April - « promouvoir et défendre le logiciel libre » - http://www.april.org ___ MusicBrainz-style mailing list MusicBrainz-style@lists.musicbrainz.org http://lists.musicbrainz.org/mailman/listinfo

Re: [mb-style] Recordings from different media types and/or with different number of channels

2012-05-06 Thread Frederic Da Vitoria
between mono and non-mono, since this usually means enhanced remastering. -- Frederic Da Vitoria (davitof) Membre de l'April - « promouvoir et défendre le logiciel libre » - http://www.april.org ___ MusicBrainz-style mailing list [hidden email

Re: [mb-style] Recordings from different media types and/or with different number of channels

2012-05-06 Thread Frederic Da Vitoria
2012/5/6 Nicolás Tamargo de Eguren reosare...@gmail.com On Sun, May 6, 2012 at 2:50 PM, Frederic Da Vitoria davito...@gmail.com wrote: Not so if you realize that the MB Recording is actually close to what people usually call a master. The CD, DVD and MP3 versions actually come from

Re: [mb-style] pre-RFC2-320: Revised Sort Name Style - identifying the problems that need fixing

2012-05-02 Thread Frederic Da Vitoria
independently, which would allow us to concentrate on the remaining and more tricky points. -- Frederic Da Vitoria (davitof) Membre de l'April - « promouvoir et défendre le logiciel libre » - http://www.april.org ___ MusicBrainz-style mailing list

Re: [mb-style] RFC-348: Recording and track artist

2012-04-30 Thread Frederic Da Vitoria
that this is not an issue. @symphonick, I don't understand what you don't understand. Do you want an example of a performer-based release? Or do you disagree with the proposal and think that this kind of release should still have the composer as Track Artist? Or something else? -- Frederic Da Vitoria (davitof

Re: [mb-style] RFC-348: Recording and track artist

2012-04-30 Thread Frederic Da Vitoria
them attached to the wrong Work. It should be easy to find recordings without a Work, but finding wrong Work ARs would be close to impossible. -- Frederic Da Vitoria (davitof) Membre de l'April - « promouvoir et défendre le logiciel libre » - http://www.april.org

Re: [mb-style] NGS CSG worklists: cadenzas s/b separate works

2012-04-30 Thread Frederic Da Vitoria
(I don't mean movements, although it could happen) can have more than one cadenza. So that for example the first cadenza would be in the first movement and the second cadenza would be in the third movement. I don't think this is worth the confusion it brings in the notation, though. -- Frederic Da

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