[mb-style] RFC-Something: Instrumental Attribute for Performed Relationship Type
This would be pretty useful to make sure we don't claim recording X (instrumental) has lyrics by Y once we start showing the relationships at release level. Also, it would solve my doubts when dealing with instrumental versions of hip hop tracks: it would allow me to merge them as a same work unless they have their own ISWC (they normally do not, although some do). The best order would probably be is a {partial} {live} {instrumental} {cover} performance of http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/User:Reosarevok/Performed_Relationship_Type_Instrumental_Attribute -- Nicolás Tamargo de Eguren ___ MusicBrainz-style mailing list MusicBrainz-style@lists.musicbrainz.org http://lists.musicbrainz.org/mailman/listinfo/musicbrainz-style
Re: [mb-style] RFC-Something: Instrumental Attribute for Performed Relationship Type
On Thu, 2011-06-09 at 22:46 +0300, Nicolás Tamargo de Eguren wrote: This would be pretty useful to make sure we don't claim recording X (instrumental) has lyrics by Y once we start showing the relationships at release level. Also, it would solve my doubts when dealing with instrumental versions of hip hop tracks: it would allow me to merge them as a same work unless they have their own ISWC (they normally do not, although some do). The best order would probably be is a {partial} {live} {instrumental} {cover} performance of http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/User:Reosarevok/Performed_Relationship_Type_Instrumental_Attribute This should probably have some extra wording added to take into account karaoke recordings: In particular, that karaoke recordings /should not/ be marked as instrumental. My reasoning: * Many karaoke tracks have portions of the vocals left in (e.g. background/chorus vocals) * The intent of karaoke tracks is to be sung over top of, for that they need lyrics :) * Unlike many pure instrumental versions, karaoke tracks are almost always the same arrangement, and usually just a different mix of the same recording. -- Calvin Walton calvin.wal...@kepstin.ca ___ MusicBrainz-style mailing list MusicBrainz-style@lists.musicbrainz.org http://lists.musicbrainz.org/mailman/listinfo/musicbrainz-style
Re: [mb-style] RFC-Something: Instrumental Attribute for Performed Relationship Type
On Thu, 2011-06-09 at 15:55 -0400, Calvin Walton wrote: On Thu, 2011-06-09 at 22:46 +0300, Nicolás Tamargo de Eguren wrote: This would be pretty useful to make sure we don't claim recording X (instrumental) has lyrics by Y once we start showing the relationships at release level. Also, it would solve my doubts when dealing with instrumental versions of hip hop tracks: it would allow me to merge them as a same work unless they have their own ISWC (they normally do not, although some do). The best order would probably be is a {partial} {live} {instrumental} {cover} performance of http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/User:Reosarevok/Performed_Relationship_Type_Instrumental_Attribute This should probably have some extra wording added to take into account karaoke recordings: In particular, that karaoke recordings /should not/ be marked as instrumental. Oh, and other than that, you have a +1 from me :) -- Calvin Walton calvin.wal...@kepstin.ca ___ MusicBrainz-style mailing list MusicBrainz-style@lists.musicbrainz.org http://lists.musicbrainz.org/mailman/listinfo/musicbrainz-style
Re: [mb-style] RFC-Something: Instrumental Attribute for Performed Relationship Type
+1 here as well, I also there should be an attribute for the Karaoke version! On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 3:56 PM, Calvin Walton calvin.wal...@kepstin.ca wrote: On Thu, 2011-06-09 at 15:55 -0400, Calvin Walton wrote: On Thu, 2011-06-09 at 22:46 +0300, Nicolás Tamargo de Eguren wrote: This would be pretty useful to make sure we don't claim recording X (instrumental) has lyrics by Y once we start showing the relationships at release level. Also, it would solve my doubts when dealing with instrumental versions of hip hop tracks: it would allow me to merge them as a same work unless they have their own ISWC (they normally do not, although some do). The best order would probably be is a {partial} {live} {instrumental} {cover} performance of http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/User:Reosarevok/Performed_Relationship_Type_Instrumental_Attribute This should probably have some extra wording added to take into account karaoke recordings: In particular, that karaoke recordings /should not/ be marked as instrumental. Oh, and other than that, you have a +1 from me :) -- Calvin Walton calvin.wal...@kepstin.ca ___ MusicBrainz-style mailing list MusicBrainz-style@lists.musicbrainz.org http://lists.musicbrainz.org/mailman/listinfo/musicbrainz-style ___ MusicBrainz-style mailing list MusicBrainz-style@lists.musicbrainz.org http://lists.musicbrainz.org/mailman/listinfo/musicbrainz-style
Re: [mb-style] RFC-Something: Instrumental Attribute for Performed Relationship Type
On Thu, 2011-06-09 at 15:59 -0400, Lemire, Sebastien wrote: On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 3:56 PM, Calvin Walton calvin.wal...@kepstin.ca wrote: On Thu, 2011-06-09 at 15:55 -0400, Calvin Walton wrote: On Thu, 2011-06-09 at 22:46 +0300, Nicolás Tamargo de Eguren wrote: This would be pretty useful to make sure we don't claim recording X (instrumental) has lyrics by Y once we start showing the relationships at release level. Also, it would solve my doubts when dealing with instrumental versions of hip hop tracks: it would allow me to merge them as a same work unless they have their own ISWC (they normally do not, although some do). The best order would probably be is a {partial} {live} {instrumental} {cover} performance of This should probably have some extra wording added to take into account karaoke recordings: In particular, that karaoke recordings /should not/ be marked as instrumental. Oh, and other than that, you have a +1 from me :) +1 here as well, I also there should be an attribute for the Karaoke version! I'm not sure whether that's a good idea. We already have the Recording → Recording karaoke version AR to identify karaoke versions. If we start adding attributes for everything, that’ll be a long list! (And I would request 'a cappella' next, as a complement to instrumental.) -- Calvin Walton calvin.wal...@kepstin.ca ___ MusicBrainz-style mailing list MusicBrainz-style@lists.musicbrainz.org http://lists.musicbrainz.org/mailman/listinfo/musicbrainz-style
Re: [mb-style] RFC-Something: Instrumental Attribute for Performed Relationship Type
Lemire, Sebastien wrote: +1 here as well, I also there should be an attribute for the Karaoke version! We already have a relationship for linking karaoke versions together. Nikki ___ MusicBrainz-style mailing list MusicBrainz-style@lists.musicbrainz.org http://lists.musicbrainz.org/mailman/listinfo/musicbrainz-style
Re: [mb-style] RFC-Something: Instrumental Attribute for Performed Relationship Type
+1. I agree with the attribute order you suggested. On Jun 9, 2011, at 2:46 PM, Nicolás Tamargo de Eguren wrote: This would be pretty useful to make sure we don't claim recording X (instrumental) has lyrics by Y once we start showing the relationships at release level. Also, it would solve my doubts when dealing with instrumental versions of hip hop tracks: it would allow me to merge them as a same work unless they have their own ISWC (they normally do not, although some do). The best order would probably be is a {partial} {live} {instrumental} {cover} performance of http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/User:Reosarevok/Performed_Relationship_Type_Instrumental_Attribute -- Nicolás Tamargo de Eguren ___ MusicBrainz-style mailing list MusicBrainz-style@lists.musicbrainz.org http://lists.musicbrainz.org/mailman/listinfo/musicbrainz-style ___ MusicBrainz-style mailing list MusicBrainz-style@lists.musicbrainz.org http://lists.musicbrainz.org/mailman/listinfo/musicbrainz-style