On 22.04.17 14:33, Charles E Campbell wrote: > Hello, Erik: > > I tried both mail and mailx. Both fail silently when I attempt to send an > email off my machine (didn't try mailx, but mail will send email to accounts > on the same machine), although I suppose its possible they're still > re-trying somewhere in the background and won't get a failure email for a > few days.
Charles, I've just sent an email to myself via the ISP (the "Received:" header lines show it went via 3 of their servers), thus confirming that I don't have such an issue. (I'll freely admit that much of my mailx usage is to send myself a reminder after I've shut down mutt, and can't be bothered with entering the ISP password for fetchmail, and waiting for things to come up.) > That's why I had been using mutt until recently. I have two > potential smtp(s) targets, but neither works with mutt. For example, both > smtp targets fail with: > > SSL connection using TLSv1/SSLv3 (ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA) > digest-md5 authentication failed, trying next method > external authentication failed, trying next method > anonymous authentication failed, trying next method > SASL authentication failed > Could not send the message. And that doesn't happen when mutt is used interactively, AIUI. The question seems to be: What does it do in that mode, to bring up the SSL connection, that neither mutt nor mail do in batch mode? > Regards and thank you for looking into this, > Chip Campbell No worries. Unfortunately, I haven't set up any SSL for mail, so can't shed the light of experience on the gremlins you're smoking out. Erik