On 22.04.17 14:33, Charles E Campbell wrote:
> Hello, Erik:
> 
> I tried both mail and mailx.  Both fail silently when I attempt to send an
> email off my machine (didn't try mailx, but mail will send email to accounts
> on the same machine), although I suppose its possible they're still
> re-trying somewhere in the background and won't get a failure email for a
> few days.

Charles, I've just sent an email to myself via the ISP (the "Received:"
header lines show it went via 3 of their servers), thus confirming that
I don't have such an issue. (I'll freely admit that much of my mailx
usage is to send myself a reminder after I've shut down mutt, and can't
be bothered with entering the ISP password for fetchmail, and waiting
for things to come up.)

> That's why I had been using mutt until recently.  I have two
> potential smtp(s) targets, but neither works with mutt.  For example, both
> smtp targets fail with:
> 
> SSL connection using TLSv1/SSLv3 (ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA)
> digest-md5 authentication failed, trying next method
> external authentication failed, trying next method
> anonymous authentication failed, trying next method
> SASL authentication failed
> Could not send the message.

And that doesn't happen when mutt is used interactively, AIUI.
The question seems to be: What does it do in that mode, to bring up the
SSL connection, that neither mutt nor mail do in batch mode?

> Regards and thank you for looking into this,
> Chip Campbell

No worries. Unfortunately, I haven't set up any SSL for mail, so can't
shed the light of experience on the gremlins you're smoking out.

Erik

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