Hi, all --

Since I'm a definite contributor, though I hope not terribly often, I
probably ought to chime in...

...and then Derek D. Martin said...
% 
% At some point hitherto, Roman Neuhauser hath spake thusly:
..
% >     mutt-chat, so that those who feel the urge to send non-technical, OT
% >     stuff to mutt-users would have a place to go.
% 
...
% discussions almost always result directly from discussions that
% originally WERE on-topic, and are unavoidable.  Humans have a penchant

Agreed, at least with the first part.

The reason I leave OT conversations on the list is because I have often
learned from such things, and even seen them come back on topic and
continue.  Sure, a return is rare, but it happens; learning something
new, though, isn't.


% for going off on tangents, and you can not possibly hope to legislate
% this behavior.  Creating new sublists to "solve" the problem DOES NOT
% WORK.  EVER.

I would say that a chat list could work if folks could be trusted to
change the thread to the chat list (just change the M-F-T: header,
right?).  That probably won't happen.

Instead of a chat list, what about a more rigorous practice of marking
OT posts as OT in the subject line (as I have above, 'cuz this really
has fallen off topic!) so that those who want to speed-read (or save
such for later) can skip them?  That seems like a nice middle ground,
and once we get the practice established the occasional flame ought to
keep things in line.

Heck, there could even be a mutt-users netiquette guide posted every
month for the benefit of newbies; we experienced folks could $procmail
it to /dev/null and never see it (unless, if we were clever, there were
changes from the version posted the previous month :-)


% 
% OT posts are a fact of life on mailing lists, unless you're on a
% mailing list that happens to attract only the most stodgy and boring

Here's where I would agree with the "second part" above.  This list,
though, has not attracted anything like stodgy and boring people :-)


HTH & HAND

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