Re: Performance of Maildir -vs- mbox (was Re: Message attributes, MH folders)

2000-06-21 Thread Mikko Hänninen
Brett Coon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on Tue, 20 Jun 2000: Hmm, to the extent that MH format is like Maildir, my experience is contrary to your claim that saving changes is faster in a one-message-per-file format. I found that closing mutt took several times longer with MH than

Re: Message attributes, MH folders

2000-06-20 Thread Brett Coon
On Mon, 19 Jun 2000 17:01:42 +0300, =?iso-8859-1?Q?Mikko_H=E4nninen?= wrote: Brett Coon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on Mon, 19 Jun 2000: 2. The feature I *really* want in a mailtool is the ability to (conveniently) put various attributes on messages, such as "answer within 1 week",

Re: Message attributes, MH folders

2000-06-20 Thread David T-G
Brett -- ...and then Brett Coon said... % % So, it sounds like I could define my own set of fields and flags % for X-Label, create some mutt macros to allow me to manipulate ... % or "reply in N days", it should be a simple task to create a perl % script to scan the X-Label headers for

Re: special flags (was Re: Message attributes, MH folders)

2000-06-20 Thread Mikko Hänninen
Gerhard den Hollander [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on Mon, 19 Jun 2000: Speaking of which, how can I get my hands on the latest dev ? There's just a new snapshot out on the ftp site (1.3.4). If you want to live with the CVS, then read the info in doc/devel-notes.txt. Regards, Mikko -- // Mikko

Re: Message attributes, MH folders

2000-06-20 Thread Brett Coon
On Mon, 19 Jun 2000 20:59:23 +0200, Gerhard den Hollander wrote: I've converted my mailboxes to maildir once, it turned out to be slower than mbox, so I converted back to mbox now. Dunno about MH, but I'm guessing it's about the same speed as maildir since it resembles maildir. are your

Re: Message attributes, MH folders

2000-06-20 Thread clemensF
Gerhard den Hollander wrote: * clemensF [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mon, Jun 19, 2000 at 07:49:56PM +0200) Ronny Haryanto: I've converted my mailboxes to maildir once, it turned out to be slower than mbox, so I converted back to mbox now. Dunno about MH, but I'm guessing it's about the same

Re: Message attributes, MH folders

2000-06-20 Thread Mikko Hänninen
Brett Coon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on Tue, 20 Jun 2000: So, in summary, MH format is slw in mutt. NFS makes it far slower, no doubt due to NFS write behavior, You could try also Maildir. It's NFS safe (no locking needed!), and it might (ought to!) give you a better performance on

Re: Message attributes, MH folders

2000-06-20 Thread David Champion
On 2000.06.20, in [EMAIL PROTECTED], "clemensF" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: so, why in the world would one want to leave mh for mutt? Are you asking why in the world would one want to leave: next spacespacespacenext comp ... send spacespacenext spacespacenext spacespacespacespacenext

Re: Message attributes, MH folders

2000-06-20 Thread Brett Coon
On Wed, 21 Jun 2000 01:07:00 +0200, clemensF wrote: well, i',m on the verge of converting to [nx]mh. but i stick to the rules, i.e. i will answer each message to me in due time, so i can't keep n*1000 messages, a few dozen are the utmost horror to me. so, why in the world would one want to

Performance of Maildir -vs- mbox (was Re: Message attributes, MH folders)

2000-06-20 Thread Bennett Todd
2000-06-21-01:17:34 Ronny Haryanto: I'm still wondering why it's slower though (in general), maybe because it fopen() more times than mbox? The mailbox is on ext2fs if that makes any difference. Ext2 is a nice quick FS, with many great features. One of my favourites. For any size mailbox,

Re: Performance of Maildir -vs- mbox (was Re: Message attributes, MH folders)

2000-06-20 Thread Brett Coon
On Wed, 21 Jun 2000 01:33:31 EDT, Bennett Todd wrote: Back to our muttons, the above performance discussion focused on opening the folder. Once it's open, mutt has built an in-memory data structure describing the messages, and either their offsets in the mbox file, or the filenames where they

Message attributes, MH folders

2000-06-19 Thread Brett Coon
I'm currently an MH/exmh user, and I'm considering the switch to mutt.I have tried it out briefly, and browsed the documentation, so hopefully the following questions aren't too obvious. 1. Folder changes are really slow. My MH folders (directories) have thousands of

Re: Message attributes, MH folders

2000-06-19 Thread clemensF
Brett Coon: 1. Folder changes are really slow. My MH folders (directories) have thousands of messages, which undoubtedly is at least part of the problem. Would it be faster if I stored messages in mbox format? Is there anything else I can do to speed it up other than

Re: Message attributes, MH folders

2000-06-19 Thread Ronny Haryanto
On 19-Jun-2000, clemensF wrote: Brett Coon: 1. Folder changes are really slow. My MH folders (directories) have thousands of messages, which undoubtedly is at least part of the problem. Would it be faster if I stored messages in mbox format? Is there anything else I can

Re: Message attributes, MH folders

2000-06-19 Thread Mikko Hänninen
Brett Coon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on Mon, 19 Jun 2000: 2. The feature I *really* want in a mailtool is the ability to (conveniently) put various attributes on messages, such as "answer within 1 week", "delete after 2 weeks", etc, and have the mailtool act accordingly on messages

special flags (was Re: Message attributes, MH folders)

2000-06-19 Thread David T-G
Hi, folks -- ...and then Mikko Hänninen said... % Brett Coon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on Mon, 19 Jun 2000: % 2. The feature I *really* want in a mailtool is the ability to % (conveniently) put various attributes on messages, such as % "answer within 1 week", "delete after 2 weeks",

Re: special flags (was Re: Message attributes, MH folders)

2000-06-19 Thread Mikko Hänninen
David T-G [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on Mon, 19 Jun 2000: Any way to put the X-Label: contents into $index_format? I think so. I'm not sure though, it's awhile since it was discussed and I'm not running the latest dev so I can't test it out or check the docs. Mikko -- // Mikko Hänninen, aka.

Re: Message attributes, MH folders

2000-06-19 Thread clemensF
Ronny Haryanto: I've converted my mailboxes to maildir once, it turned out to be slower than mbox, so I converted back to mbox now. Dunno about MH, but I'm guessing it's about the same speed as maildir since it resembles maildir. are your files on a network? clemens

Re: special flags (was Re: Message attributes, MH folders)

2000-06-19 Thread David Champion
On 2000.06.19, in [EMAIL PROTECTED], "David T-G" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Any way to put the X-Label: contents into $index_format? My index_format has: "%?y?[%y] ?". From the docs: The ``X-Label:'' header field can be used to further identify mailing lists or list subject matter

Re: special flags (was Re: Message attributes, MH folders)

2000-06-19 Thread David Champion
On 2000.06.19, in [EMAIL PROTECTED], "David Champion" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 2000.06.19, in [EMAIL PROTECTED], "David T-G" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Any way to put the X-Label: contents into $index_format? My index_format has: "%?y?[%y] ?". From the docs: ...