Mutt hangs, Network Issue?

2008-05-20 Thread Hal Burgiss
Hello, I have a strange problem that is driving me nuts. Sorry if this is long. Background: I am a long time mutt user. I use it at home. I use it at work. I get a lot of email. I love mutt. The problem is at work. I routinely interact with several servers (Linux and *BSD). I keep terminals

Re: Mutt hangs, Network Issue?

2008-05-20 Thread Rado S
=- Hal Burgiss wrote on Tue 20.May'08 at 9:30:27 -0400 -= The problem is at work. I routinely interact with several servers (Linux and *BSD). I keep terminals with ssh sessions open to all these. On one of these, I keep my personal mail spool (mbox). This is a CentOS Linux server. The mutt

Re: Mutt hangs, Network Issue?

2008-05-20 Thread Hal Burgiss
On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 05:45:47PM +0200, Rado S wrote: a) try 1.5.18 OK, good idea. I am running that now, and should know within an hour or two. b) I only know of stale NFS handles freezing mutt beyond recovery. Try with local filesys folder open in mutt all day. If it doesn't hang, it's

Re: Mutt hangs, Network Issue?

2008-05-20 Thread Hal Burgiss
On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 12:13:34PM -0400, Hal Burgiss wrote: On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 05:45:47PM +0200, Rado S wrote: a) try 1.5.18 OK, good idea. I am running that now, and should know within an hour or two. No go. Still hanging. :( -- Hal Burgiss

Re: Mutt hangs, Network Issue?

2008-05-20 Thread David Champion
This Mutt hangs/freezes probably 10-15 times a day. It is completely unresponsive. If I open a second ssh session, and kill the mutt process, it generally takes maybe 30 seconds for mutt to let go, and to get a shell prompt back. If I don't manually kill mutt, and just So you regain control

Re: Mutt hangs, Network Issue?

2008-05-20 Thread Hal Burgiss
On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 12:06:28PM -0500, David Champion wrote: So you regain control of mutt's session when mutt dies to a kill signal? Yes. Sometimes quickly. Sometimes after more than 30 seconds or so. Can you also suspend mutt (control-Z) from within the same session, or only from

Re: Mutt hangs, Network Issue?

2008-05-20 Thread Kyle Wheeler
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday, May 20 at 09:30 AM, quoth Hal Burgiss: This Mutt hangs/freezes probably 10-15 times a day. It is completely unresponsive. Try running mutt in debug mode; with luck, we can see what mutt's doing when it dies. ~Kyle - -- He who dares

Re: Mutt hangs, Network Issue?

2008-05-20 Thread Hal Burgiss
On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 12:26:54PM -0500, Kyle Wheeler wrote: Try running mutt in debug mode; with luck, we can see what mutt's doing when it dies. Thanks! I wasn't aware of debug mode, but I'm game. Rebuilt now and running -d 5 now. -- Hal Burgiss DBSInteractive Technical Services

Re: Mutt hangs, Network Issue?

2008-05-20 Thread Jussi Peltola
Try enabling SSH keepalives.

Re: Mutt hangs, Network Issue?

2008-05-20 Thread Hal Burgiss
On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 06:01:10PM +, Jussi Peltola wrote: Try enabling SSH keepalives. Thanks. I have keepalives enabled on the server end already. -- Hal Burgiss DBSInteractive Technical Services

Re: Mutt hangs, Network Issue?

2008-05-20 Thread Hal Burgiss
On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 12:26:54PM -0500, Kyle Wheeler wrote: Try running mutt in debug mode; with luck, we can see what mutt's doing when it dies. All I get is ... Caught signal 15... Exiting. That is from killing the mutt process after its hung. -- Hal Burgiss DBSInteractive Technical

Re: Mutt hangs, Network Issue?

2008-05-20 Thread Hal Burgiss
On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 12:06:28PM -0500, David Champion wrote: So you regain control of mutt's session when mutt dies to a kill signal? Can you also suspend mutt (control-Z) from within the same session, or only from outside? I've had two opportunites to try control-z. Both times it worked,

Re: Mutt hangs, Network Issue?

2008-05-20 Thread Hal Burgiss
On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 01:46:59PM -0700, Gary Johnson wrote: The debug output is sent to a file, not to your terminal. The latest debug file will have the name ~/.muttdebug0. Ach! Thanks. Wasn't expecting that. Now have 5 different ones, and its a little hard to see where the problem might

Re: Mutt hangs, Network Issue?

2008-05-20 Thread Gary Johnson
On 2008-05-20, Hal Burgiss [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 01:46:59PM -0700, Gary Johnson wrote: The debug output is sent to a file, not to your terminal. The latest debug file will have the name ~/.muttdebug0. Ach! Thanks. Wasn't expecting that. Now have 5 different

Re: Mutt hangs, Network Issue?

2008-05-20 Thread Hal Burgiss
On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 02:05:28PM -0700, Gary Johnson wrote: I should have mentioned this before, but something you can do to help associate the contents of the debug file with mutt's actions is to open another terminal and in it run tail -f ~/.muttdebug0 Excellent! Its going now.

Re: Mutt hangs, Network Issue?

2008-05-20 Thread David Champion
What should a functional control-z tell me? If control-Z works, your transport (ssh) and terminal are still fundamentally intact, and responsive to low-level traffic and out-of-band signals. (It means that mutt is responsive to signals too, for that matter -- once it receives them.) Does mutt

Re: Mutt hangs, Network Issue?

2008-05-20 Thread Hal Burgiss
On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 05:09:07PM -0500, David Champion wrote: What should a functional control-z tell me? If control-Z works, your transport (ssh) and terminal are still fundamentally intact, and responsive to low-level traffic and out-of-band signals. (It means that mutt is responsive