Re: gnupg vs pgp? Really getting OT

2000-12-15 Thread Kai Blin
* Jesper Holmberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] [14/12/00, 22:10:31]: This 'Leitkultur' discussion you Germans are having these days does send chills down the spines of your fellow European neighbours. Not only the neighbours' spines, I can assure you. I don't know how much of this extraordinarily stupid

Re: gnupg vs pgp? Really getting OT

2000-12-15 Thread Jesper Holmberg
* On Friday, December 15, Kai Blin wrote: But it's _not_ we Germans. And actually, it's not a recent discussion. It's only a new guy in politics who tries to profile himself. A poor way of doing it, for sure. I get your point. Sorry. It was not my intention to insult all Germans. Over and

Re: gnupg vs pgp?

2000-12-14 Thread Thorsten Haude
Hi, I see on the mutt homepage that gnupg is recommended over pgp. Are there reasons for this beyond the whole 'use gnu whenever possible because of their licensing'? Or are there real, functional reasons behind choosing gnupg over pgp? The whole 'use gnu whenever possible because of their

Re: gnupg vs pgp?

2000-12-14 Thread Charles Curley
On Wed, Dec 13, 2000 at 01:56:21PM -0800, Myrddin muttered: Just like the subject says. I see on the mutt homepage that gnupg is recommended over pgp. Are there reasons for this beyond the whole 'use gnu whenever possible because of their licensing'? Or are there real, functional reasons

Re: gnupg vs pgp?

2000-12-14 Thread Charles Curley
On Thu, Dec 14, 2000 at 08:22:33AM -0500, Thomas E. Dickey muttered: On Thu, 14 Dec 2000, Charles Curley wrote: On Wed, Dec 13, 2000 at 01:56:21PM -0800, Myrddin muttered: One reason is security. GPG is free software, PGP is captive. This means you can get the GPG source, read it and

Re: gnupg vs pgp?

2000-12-14 Thread rex
On Thu, Dec 14, 2000 at 05:48:30AM -0700, Charles Curley wrote: One reason is security. GPG is free software, PGP is captive. This means you can get the GPG source, read it and compile it for yourself. What? PGP source code has always been available. The source for PGP 6.5.8 can be

Re: gnupg vs pgp?

2000-12-14 Thread Charles Curley
On Thu, Dec 14, 2000 at 08:17:29AM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] muttered: On Thu, Dec 14, 2000 at 05:48:30AM -0700, Charles Curley wrote: One reason is security. GPG is free software, PGP is captive. This means you can get the GPG source, read it and compile it for yourself. What? PGP

Re: gnupg vs pgp?

2000-12-14 Thread Lars Hecking
This is getting kind of off-topic for this list ... Is the German government just as much a police state as the US? I'm not sure, but I suspect that -- in spite of their Orwellian ban on teaching the history of Germany in the 1930s and 1940s and other evidence -- they are not. I am

Re: gnupg vs pgp?

2000-12-14 Thread Thorsten Haude
Hi, this is certainly ot, but you made a really wrong assumption (I hope) about Germany and I don't want to let that stand. I don't know the terms of the German grant to the FSF for funding GPG; perhaps the test is on their web site (but, alas, I am not literate in German). The site's native

Re: gnupg vs pgp?

2000-12-14 Thread Ralf Hildebrandt
On Thu, Dec 14, 2000 at 06:59:09PM +0100, Thorsten Haude wrote: You are either totally misinformed or denying that anything bad happened in these years. Which one? During my time in various schools, I had to take three classes about nazism in Germany. This is typical. Yup. We're the good

Re: gnupg vs pgp?

2000-12-14 Thread Charles Curley
On Thu, Dec 14, 2000 at 06:59:09PM +0100, Thorsten Haude muttered: Hi, this is certainly ot, but you made a really wrong assumption (I hope) about Germany and I don't want to let that stand. Nor I; thank you for the correction. I don't know the terms of the German grant to the FSF for

Re: gnupg vs pgp?

2000-12-14 Thread Thorsten Haude
Hi, On 00-12-14, Ralf Hildebrandt wrote: Yup. We're the good guys Well, I wouldn't go this far. Thorsten

Re: gnupg vs pgp?

2000-12-14 Thread Ralf Hildebrandt
On Thu, Dec 14, 2000 at 07:44:57PM +0100, Thorsten Haude wrote: Yup. We're the good guys Well, I wouldn't go this far. We're considerably better than the most :) -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] System Engineerinnominate AG Diplom-Informatiker

Re: gnupg vs pgp?

2000-12-14 Thread Lars Hecking
Ralf Hildebrandt writes: On Thu, Dec 14, 2000 at 07:44:57PM +0100, Thorsten Haude wrote: Yup. We're the good guys Well, I wouldn't go this far. We're considerably better than the most :) Sure. "Am deutschen Wesen soll die Welt genesen." Heard that before. Didn't like it.

Re: gnupg vs pgp?

2000-12-14 Thread David T-G
Myrddin -- ...and then Myrddin said... % Just like the subject says. My guess, though I'm not one of the developers, is that gnupg is considered to be more flexible and capable and thus a better tool to use with mutt. Yeah, the licensing is great (which is great for anyone writing hooks to it

Re: gnupg vs pgp?

2000-12-14 Thread Thorsten Haude
Moin, "Am deutschen Wesen soll die Welt genesen." ^ That would be 'Leitkultur' now. Thorsten

Re: gnupg vs pgp? Really getting OT

2000-12-14 Thread Jesper Holmberg
* On Thursday, December 14, Thorsten Haude wrote: "Am deutschen Wesen soll die Welt genesen." ^ That would be 'Leitkultur' now. This 'Leitkultur' discussion you Germans are having these days does send chills down the spines of your fellow European neighbours. Jesper --

Re: gnupg vs pgp?

2000-12-14 Thread Thorsten Haude
Moin, To get ontopic again: On 00-12-14, Ralf Hildebrandt wrote: - - - [-- PGP-Ausgabe folgt (aktuelle Zeit: Thu Dec 14 21:04:32 2000) --] gpg: Unterschrift vom Don 14 Dez 2000 20:02:38 CET, DSA Schlüssel ID 90F89A7D gpg: Schlüssels 90F89A7D von wwwkeys.eu.pgp.net wird angefordert ... gpg: Keine

Re: gnupg vs pgp?

2000-12-14 Thread Ralf Hildebrandt
On Thu, Dec 14, 2000 at 09:05:53PM +0100, Thorsten Haude wrote: [-- PGP-Ausgabe folgt (aktuelle Zeit: Thu Dec 14 21:04:32 2000) --] gpg: Unterschrift vom Don 14 Dez 2000 20:02:38 CET, DSA Schlüssel ID 90F89A7D gpg: Schlüssels 90F89A7D von wwwkeys.eu.pgp.net wird angefordert ... gpg: Keine

Re: gnupg vs pgp?

2000-12-13 Thread Lars Hecking
Myrddin writes: Just like the subject says. I see on the mutt homepage that gnupg is recommended over pgp. Are there reasons for this beyond the whole 'use gnu whenever possible because of their licensing'? Or are there real, functional reasons behind choosing gnupg over pgp? Much