Re: mutt feeds more to gnupg than it needs, causes invisible/lost

2009-12-03 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Michael Wagner [2009.12.03.0847 +0100]: > JFTR: Today was an upgrade of the 'mutt' package in Debian unstable and > now it works very well. I know: http://bugs.debian.org/558813 ;) Thanks for letting the list know! -- martin | http://madduck.net/ | http://two.sentenc.es/ stupidi

Re: mutt feeds more to gnupg than it needs, causes invisible/lost

2009-12-02 Thread Michael Wagner
* martin f krafft 29.11.2009 > also sprach David J. Weller-Fahy > [2009.11.29.1631 +0100]: > ro this means that your mutt 1.5.20 on Darwin correctly splits the > message and only passes to gnupg what it must, while "our" 1.5.20 on > Debian sid does not. Very strange indeed. Hello Martin, JFT

Re: mutt feeds more to gnupg than it needs, causes invisible/lost

2009-11-30 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Derek Martin [2009.11.30.1921 +0100]: > My Mutt is Mutt 1.5.20hg (2009-06-23), only slightly newer than yours, > but it clearly does have code to handle the case of pgp-mixed text > bodies (in pgp_application_pgp_handler() in pgp.c). So it would seem > the discussion is moot. Indeed.

PGP/MIME for Outlook (was: mutt feeds more to gnupg than it needs, causes invisible/lost)

2009-11-30 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Kyle Wheeler [2009.11.30.1638 +0100]: > ...Or if you deal with (Al)Pine+PGP people, because (Al)Pine cannot > deal with PGP-MIME or any MIME format where one MIME component must be > interpreted differently based on the contents of another MIME > component. > > As for Outlook... I

Re: mutt feeds more to gnupg than it needs, causes invisible/lost

2009-11-30 Thread Derek Martin
On Sun, Nov 29, 2009 at 09:59:32AM +0100, martin f krafft wrote: > also sprach David J. Weller-Fahy > [2009.11.28.2236 +0100]: > > I then entered ':exec check-traditional-pgp' in mutt, and viewed > > the message. The text preceding the digitally signed portion of > > the message was still visibl

Re: mutt feeds more to gnupg than it needs, causes invisible/lost

2009-11-30 Thread Kyle Wheeler
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On Monday, November 30 at 09:58 AM, quoth martin f krafft: > The problem comes when they aren't your peers (but e.g. your boss), > or when you deal with Outlook+PGP people, because as far as I know, > there is no way to do PGP-MIME with Outlook. .

Re: mutt feeds more to gnupg than it needs, causes invisible/lost

2009-11-30 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Derek Martin [2009.11.30.0811 +0100]: > Yes, I mean with any MIME. PGP predates MIME by about a year, as > far as I can tell. So-called "traditional" PGP was intended to be > used entirely within the message body, because at the time it was > created there was *only* a message body.

Re: mutt feeds more to gnupg than it needs, causes invisible/lost

2009-11-29 Thread Derek Martin
On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 10:06:31PM -0500, Todd Zullinger wrote: > If you call check-traditional-pgp on this message, is this text lost? No, actually... > It is for me and I would call it a bug. I can see why you'd say that, but I don't agree (regardless of the fact it's not happening for me).

Re: mutt feeds more to gnupg than it needs, causes invisible/lost

2009-11-29 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach David J. Weller-Fahy [2009.11.29.1631 +0100]: > * Michael Wagner [2009-11-29 07:59 -0500]: > > * martin f krafft 29.11.2009 > > > This *could* be due to gnupg. Do you see the unsigned portions of > > > the text if you run > > > > > > gpg < ~/test > > I do *not* see the text prece

Re: mutt feeds more to gnupg than it needs, causes invisible/lost

2009-11-29 Thread David J. Weller-Fahy
* Michael Wagner [2009-11-29 07:59 -0500]: > * martin f krafft 29.11.2009 > > This *could* be due to gnupg. Do you see the unsigned portions of > > the text if you run > > > > gpg < ~/test I do *not* see the text preceding the digitally signed portion of the message when I run `gpg < ~/test`.

Re: mutt feeds more to gnupg than it needs, causes invisible/lost

2009-11-29 Thread Michael Wagner
* martin f krafft 29.11.2009 > also sprach David J. Weller-Fahy > [2009.11.28.2236 +0100]: > > * Todd Zullinger [2009-11-27 21:07 -0500]: > > > If you call check-traditional-pgp on this message, is this text > > > lost? It is for me and I would call it a bug. It might also be > > > some subtle

Re: mutt feeds more to gnupg than it needs, causes invisible/lost

2009-11-29 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach David J. Weller-Fahy [2009.11.28.2236 +0100]: > * Todd Zullinger [2009-11-27 21:07 -0500]: > > If you call check-traditional-pgp on this message, is this text > > lost? It is for me and I would call it a bug. It might also be > > some subtle difference between our configurations, gp

Re: mutt feeds more to gnupg than it needs, causes invisible/lost

2009-11-28 Thread David J. Weller-Fahy
* Todd Zullinger [2009-11-27 21:07 -0500]: > If you call check-traditional-pgp on this message, is this text lost? > It is for me and I would call it a bug. It might also be some subtle > difference between our configurations, gpg versions, etc. FWIW I copied your message into ~/test, and then o

Re: mutt feeds more to gnupg than it needs, causes invisible/lost

2009-11-28 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Derek Martin [2009.11.28.0314 +0100]: > I have pgp_auto_decode set, and additionally I unset it and manually > executed check-traditional-pgp, and I saw the above text in all cases. > So unless I misunderstood you, it seems my Mutt behaves differently > from yours... Indeed, and I tak

Re: mutt feeds more to gnupg than it needs, causes invisible/lost

2009-11-27 Thread Todd Zullinger
I sometimes see TOFU on lists where the sender is replying to a message that was signed using traditional (inline) PGP. Their message does not show up once check-traditional-pgp is called. Only the original text from the quoted PGP signed section is displayed. I don't think mutt has always behav

Re: mutt feeds more to gnupg than it needs, causes invisible/lost

2009-11-27 Thread Derek Martin
So, a couple of things... On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 11:55:52AM +0100, martin f krafft wrote: > You won't see this text if mutt automatically verifies signed text > (if pgp_auto_decode is set). Run ':exec > check-traditional-pgp' if you see it to get the described > effect. I have pgp_auto_decode se

Re: mutt feeds more to gnupg than it needs, causes invisible/lost

2009-11-27 Thread Todd Zullinger
martin f krafft wrote: > The actual problem remains though. For some reason, the last message > I sent was inline *and* PGP-mime signed, thus this one is simpler to > exemplify the problem. > > There's a bit of text preceding the "Hello," up top of this mail, > but if you configured mutt with pgp_a

Re: mutt feeds more to gnupg than it needs, causes invisible/lost

2009-11-27 Thread martin f krafft
You won't see this text if mutt automatically verifies signed text (if pgp_auto_decode is set). Run ':exec check-traditional-pgp' if you see it to get the described effect. -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 Hello, also sprach Michelle Konzack [2009.11.27.1538 +0100]: > It seem

Re: mutt feeds more to gnupg than it needs, causes invisible/lost

2009-11-27 Thread Michelle Konzack
Hello Martin, It seems there is a misunderstanding from you of course the parser from because normaly the "Debian Signature Parser" cut off the GPG signed message and packe it into a new one with the signature attached, which mean, it change te Header from "gpg-signed" to "multipart" put the

mutt feeds more to gnupg than it needs, causes invisible/lost text

2009-11-27 Thread martin f krafft
You won't see this text if mutt automatically verifies signed text (if pgp_auto_decode is set). Run ':exec check-traditional-pgp' if you see it to get the described effect. -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 Hey folks, I sent this message clear-signed on purpose to illustrate wha