Re: mutt process doesnt terminate
On Wed, May 17, 2000 at 10:12:26PM +0200, Jan Houtsma wrote: Now for the sequence of events that make mutt go wild: -- 1) In my own X-session my wife starts xterm (which is of course owned by my id) and in that xterm she runs the script 'caroline' and logs into her own account. 2) Then she starts mutt. 3) Then she kills the xterm with the cross button!! Now xterm window terminates but mutt keeps running like crazy (88% cpu)!!! Note that it's something related to mutt. When she starts pine or elm this does NOT happen at all and everything is nicely deleted from the process list. Another wierd thing It ONLY happens if i run the 'su - caroline' via that script! If i start an xterm and manually run the 'su - caroline' and then mutt, all IS nicely deleted after killingthe xterm. I've got a similair problem. Eterm + `su -' + Midnight Commander = 100% CPU usage after closing the window. But this only happens sometimes. Sometimes it dies in a couple of seconds, and sometimes it just runs until I kill it. (BTW, I run su - directly (`Eterm -e su -' is bound to a hot key in my IceWM keys file)). The only common thing between your problem and mine seems to be `su'. BTW, do you have mutt compiled with slang? That would be another common thing since that's what mc uses. Marius Gedminas -- Premature optimization is the root of all evil. -- D.E. Knuth
Sender profiles, personalities, setting from address etc.
Hi Mutt users, some time ago I asked some questions on setting sender related parameters like From-address, signature etc. Thanks to the answers in the list, I have now been able to use my sender profiles succesfully for some time. Therefore, I wrote a "howto" on setting up and using sender profiles with Mutt. You can find it at http://www.iki.fi/martti.rahkila/mutt/profiles.html It is still a beta, so I'd appreciate if some of you could check it out and let me know if you find bugs or something to improve. Maybe it's even worth adding to the Mutt link page or FAQ once its ready? Thanks! -- Martti Rahkila - yet another (happy) Mutt-user [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mutt and imap
What do I have to do, to get mutt running with imap? Which version of mutt shell I take? How do I have to compile it? Thanks Manuel -- Registrierter Linux-User #130261 ** ** * MAXIMUM Internet Services AG | Fon +49 8152 918600 * * Gewerbestraße 13 | Fax +49 8152 918610 * * D - 82211 Herrsching | URL http://www.maximum-ag.de * ** **
Re: mutt and imap
Manuel Hendel proclaimed on mutt-users that:
What do I have to do, to get mutt running with imap? Which version of
mutt shell I take? How do I have to compile it?
Any version of mutt you want - your 1.01i will do fine. See the mutt/imap
howto at http://www.mutt.org for more. Just read the imap folder as
mutt -f '{imap.server}folder-name'
-s
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Re: Doing netnews with mutt
David Champion (Thu 18.0500-00:47): So, on a related note: are there any other NNTP patches for mutt, besides Brandon Long's 0.95 version? I'd imagine that they'll never i never heard of this nntp patch. would you please give a pointer? -- clemens [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Doing netnews with mutt
clemensF proclaimed on mutt-users that: So, on a related note: are there any other NNTP patches for mutt, besides Brandon Long's 0.95 version? I'd imagine that they'll never i never heard of this nntp patch. would you please give a pointer? mutt.org has a list of patches - you can check it out in the list there :) -- Suresh Ramasubramanian | sureshr at staff.juno.com Barach's Rule: An alcoholic is a person who drinks more than his own physician.
Re: Browsing local folders/files
On Thu, May 18, 2000 at 10:27:15AM +0800, billy chan wrote: [2000.05.17 15:55] Joan M. Garcia [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I would like to change mutt's behavior when, after pressing two consecutive tabs when looking for a file or folder, it shows me all the possible completions. It would be great if it could show the candidates the way GNU readline usually does (ls like, instead of ls -l like). The problem is that I have arrow_cursor set, and when browsing files it is very hard to know where it is pointing at (the arrow is on the left, and the file name on the right). Is there a way to change it? "set arrow_cursor=no" in .muttrc I think he probably has arrow_cursor=yes for a reason, i.e. he likes it that way or he's working across a slow connection. I personally have arrow_cursor=yes because I like it that way, I have the arrow cursor highlighted with a different background colour so it's very easy to find. The browser indexes are sometimes a little less than ideal, you can however modify them with $folder_format, the only problem being that one wants different formats (IMHO) for local and IMAP folders. I also think that the default 'ls -l' type format for the browser is far from ideal and rather a strange default. -- Chris Green ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Home: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Work: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.isbd.co.uk/
Re: mutt and imap
On Thu, May 18, 2000 at 01:08:39PM +0530, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote:
Manuel Hendel proclaimed on mutt-users that:
What do I have to do, to get mutt running with imap? Which version of
mutt shell I take? How do I have to compile it?
Any version of mutt you want - your 1.01i will do fine. See the mutt/imap
howto at http://www.mutt.org for more. Just read the imap folder as
mutt -f '{imap.server}folder-name'
Version 1.2 has a whole raft of IMAP enhancements and bug fixes though
so I would recommend doenloading and building that if you can. When
you build it you need to give the '--with-imap' option to ./configure
(plus any others you need of course).
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WWW: http://www.isbd.co.uk/
Re: mutt and imap
On Thu, May 18, 2000 at 01:08:39PM +0530, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote:
Manuel Hendel proclaimed on mutt-users that:
What do I have to do, to get mutt running with imap? Which version of
mutt shell I take? How do I have to compile it?
Any version of mutt you want - your 1.01i will do fine. See the mutt/imap
howto at http://www.mutt.org for more. Just read the imap folder as
mutt -f '{imap.server}folder-name'
-s
I thought that just the 1.2 version got the imap part. What's abaut
the performance, does it work fine?
Manuel
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Re: mutt and imap
Chris Green proclaimed on mutt-users that:
mutt -f '{imap.server}folder-name'
Version 1.2 has a whole raft of IMAP enhancements and bug fixes though
so I would recommend doenloading and building that if you can. When
you build it you need to give the '--with-imap' option to ./configure
(plus any others you need of course).
I use mutt 1.3 (and have been building the devel versions as and when they
came out g). AFAICT, --with-imap is enabled by default. Mutt is small
enough that I can afford to do a ./configure and make install and
compile everything in :)
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tickets.
Re: mutt process doesnt terminate
On Thu, May 18, 2000 at 06:28:03AM +0200, clemensF wrote: Jan Houtsma (Wed 17.0500-22:12): 'rlogin -l caroline localhost' which works fine. what happens if you put "exec " in front of "rlogin"? The problem doesnt happen with rlogin. Only with su. But you are saying that when i put exec before the rlogin it replaces the current shell and then i should also get this behaviour? I will try when i am home again. Or did u mean put exec in front of the su command??? thanks, jan
Re: mutt process doesnt terminate
On Thu, May 18, 2000 at 09:18:20AM +0530, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote: Jan Houtsma proclaimed on mutt-users that: 3) Then she kills the xterm with the cross button!! Simple thing - quit mutt first, before killing your XTerm :) Or else, there is always kill -9 `pidof(mutt)` :) Sure, thats what i always do, but you can never rely on other peoples behaviour can you? People just tend to quickly kill the whole window, no matter what. And besides, that simply should work. Now in that script i changed the 'su - caroline' into 'rlogin -l caroline localhost' which works fine. I cant get a grip on why mutt is getting wild..?!? Definitely not mutt's fault :) Why are you sooo sure? Cause when i run pine or elm instead of mutt i don't have this problem. Can you explain that then??? :-)) Jan
Re: mutt and imap
Manuel Hendel proclaimed on mutt-users that:
mutt -f '{imap.server}folder-name'
I thought that just the 1.2 version got the imap part. What's abaut
the performance, does it work fine?
I was checking imap folders on a .95.4i - it was pretty ok ... except that
m$ sexchange has a badly broken version of what it calls "imap" ;)
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Re: Sender profiles, personalities, setting from address etc.
On Thu, May 18, 2000 at 12:38:31PM +0530 or thereabouts, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote: Martti Rahkila proclaimed on mutt-users that: http://www.iki.fi/martti.rahkila/mutt/profiles.html You could send your .muttrc to dotfiles.org if you think it is special, so that other users can adapt it to their needs. That would be cool. Maybe it's even worth adding to the Mutt link page or FAQ once its ready? I dunno, The mutt faq and manual documents this pretty ok, afaik :) Pretty good one though. I think it's worth linking. The problem with the manual is that it's so very massive and organised in a particular fashion. It's a fantastic reference once you have an idea of what's going on. It's not great if you are new and simply want to know "How do I (set up profiles|get PGP/GnuPG working|organise folders)?": ie, one particular little task which involves some stuff from section 4 about patterns, and a whole bunch of variables which are scattered through section 6 in alphabetical rather than "things which are often tweaked together" order. I'm not complaining about the manual, btw: I think it's great, and I don't think you can combine both a reference and a list of such tasks easily into one document. I do think, however, that as well as all the muttrcs linked off www.mutt.org where we all try to explain every variable we use, some things like this which explain one particular task would be great. I wanted to write mine that way, but I was too lazy. :) Telsa
Re: mutt process doesnt terminate
On Thu, 18 May 2000, Jan Houtsma wrote: | On Wed, May 17, 2000 at 03:40:51PM -0700, AG wrote: | Hi Jan! | | On Wed, 17 May 2000, Jan Houtsma wrote: | | | | | Another wierd thing It ONLY happens if i run the 'su - caroline' | | via that script! If i start an xterm and manually run the 'su - caroline' | | and then mutt, all IS nicely deleted after killingthe xterm. | | | | I think it boils down to bash behavior. Running the script crates | another instance of bash which then spawns yet another which isn't | owned by you. Because xterm doesn't know about the shell created | within the script it doesn't kill it. | | Then explain why it does kill it when i run pine or elm instead of mutt | And... I tried with both bash, zsh and ksh. They all do the same.. | | I still do not understand. Assuming you mean you ran the script through each of those shells, (i.e changed the #! line), su is still going to use the shell defined as default for caroline. You still have a problem of a process running who's parent isn't in complete control. Because it was spawned essentially in a subshell of a subshell and isn't owned by you, closing your xterm doesn't necessarily have the authority to kill the process owned by caroline. As far as pine and elm are concerned, perhaps they are more closely tied to their parent shell process and as a result when it dies they die. When you have the huge cpu usage, do a ``ps -A --forest'' and see what owns the proces. -- _ _|_|_ ( ) *Anton Graham /v\ / [EMAIL PROTECTED] /( )X (m_m) GPG ID: 18F78541 Penguin Powered!
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Re: mutt process doesnt terminate
Jan Houtsma proclaimed on mutt-users that: Definitely not mutt's fault :) Why are you sooo sure? Cause when i run pine or elm instead of mutt i don't have this problem. Can you explain that then??? :-)) As one of my friends Binand Raj posted on the Linux India list - Tolkien / Hitchhikers Guide / Star Wars / Mutt : See No Evil, Speak No Evil, Hear No Evil :) -- Suresh Ramasubramanian | sureshr at staff.juno.com We will have solar energy as soon as the utility companies solve one technical problem -- how to run a sunbeam through a meter.
Can't read cyrillic messages
Hi, I can't seem to be able to read messages in cyrillic with mutt. Setting charset to ISO-8859-5 or KOI8-r does not help at all. This is the compile options: -DOMAIN -HOMESPOOL +USE_SETGID +USE_DOTLOCK -USE_FCNTL -USE_FLOCK +USE_IMAP +USE_POP +HAVE_REGCOMP -USE_GNU_REGEX +HAVE_COLOR +HAVE_PGP5 +HAVE_PGP2 +HAVE_GPG -BUFFY_SIZE -EXACT_ADDRESS +ENABLE_NLS SENDMAIL="/usr/sbin/sendmail" MAILPATH="/var/spool/mail" SHAREDIR="/usr/share/mutt" SYSCONFDIR="/etc" ISPELL="/usr/bin/ispell" _PGPPATH="/usr/bin/pgp" _PGPV2PATH="/usr/bin/pgp" _PGPV3PATH="/usr/bin/pgp" Any help is appriciated, Sergei
Re: mutt process doesnt terminate
On Thu, May 18, 2000 at 01:56:45AM -0700, AG wrote: On Thu, 18 May 2000, Jan Houtsma wrote: | On Wed, May 17, 2000 at 03:40:51PM -0700, AG wrote: | Hi Jan! | | On Wed, 17 May 2000, Jan Houtsma wrote: | | | | | Another wierd thing It ONLY happens if i run the 'su - caroline' | | via that script! If i start an xterm and manually run the 'su - caroline' | | and then mutt, all IS nicely deleted after killingthe xterm. | | | | I think it boils down to bash behavior. Running the script crates | another instance of bash which then spawns yet another which isn't | owned by you. Because xterm doesn't know about the shell created | within the script it doesn't kill it. | | Then explain why it does kill it when i run pine or elm instead of mutt | And... I tried with both bash, zsh and ksh. They all do the same.. | | I still do not understand. Assuming you mean you ran the script through each of those shells, (i.e changed the #! line), su is still going to use the shell defined as default for caroline. You still have a problem of a process running who's parent isn't in complete control. Because it was spawned essentially in a subshell of a subshell and isn't owned by you, closing your xterm doesn't necessarily have the authority to kill the process owned by caroline. I changed the shell in /etc/passwd, so not via the #!/bin/zsh or whatever. As far as pine and elm are concerned, perhaps they are more closely tied to their parent shell process and as a result when it dies they die. Yea. obviously, cause there is clearly a difference with mutt in this respect. When you have the huge cpu usage, do a ``ps -A --forest'' and see what owns the proces. Thanks, i will try that tonight when i am home, but i can guess the result and i think the end-result is that i would want mutt to behave the same as pine and elm in respect to being killed when the parent process dies independent on ownership. It must be possible cause elm and pine also can. Better kill it than having a wild crazy process which u can only kill manually with 'kill'.
Re: mutt and imap
On 2000-05-18 13:48:02 +0530, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote: I use mutt 1.3 (and have been building the devel versions as and when they came out g). AFAICT, --with-imap is enabled by default. That would be a bug. Mutt is small enough that I can afford to do a ./configure and make install and compile everything in :) Well, small when compared to WHAT? -- http://www.guug.de/~roessler/
Re: Possible index bug in 1.2...
On 2000-05-17 21:29:59 -0500, Ben Beuchler wrote: Hmmm... I'm using Eterm with a setting of 'xterm-color'. I'm using xterm with TERM=xterm-xf86-v33 here, and don't have any problems - neither with 1.1.*, nor with 1.3. And yes, I have been using huge archive folders (approx. 11000 msgs) all the time. Maybe you could try this with a different terminal-TERM combination and verify that the problem persists. -- http://www.guug.de/~roessler/
Re: turning off the debug option, how??
On 2000-05-18 03:42:17 +0200, Gero Treuner wrote: Yup. The default is enabled, and configure appears to be able to enable it, only. Should be fixed IMO. Actually, this is just something left over from the 1.1 series, where I had intentionally made the debugging stuff the default. It was supposed to be switched off before 1.2 is released, but I forgot that. Will be fixed in 1.2.1. -- http://www.guug.de/~roessler/
Re: mutt process doesnt terminate
On Thu, May 18, 2000 at 02:44:03PM +0530, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote: Jan Houtsma proclaimed on mutt-users that: Definitely not mutt's fault :) Why are you sooo sure? Cause when i run pine or elm instead of mutt i don't have this problem. Can you explain that then??? :-)) As one of my friends Binand Raj posted on the Linux India list - Tolkien / Hitchhikers Guide / Star Wars / Mutt : See No Evil, Speak No Evil, Hear No Evil :) Thats what i thought. See No Evil, Speak No Evil, Hear No Evil, Never Improve. :-)
Re: IMAP attachments
Thanks, but aren't you supposed to be able to browse the IMAP folder to attach files with? If not, is there a way to automatically tell mutt where to get attached files from ? (e.g ~/ ). Dave More than enough to go on :) Mutt is trying to search for the attached file on your IMAP server. Try giving the explicit path of the file, and rely on tab to autocomplete long unix paths - a File to attach: ~/foo/bar/baz/quux/attachment.html [It worked when I was reading my mails from a M$ sexchange folder through IMAP (which sexchange implements badly) not so long ago, till I could convince my sysad to shift my mailbox to the sun box] hth -s -- Suresh Ramasubramanian | sureshr at staff.juno.com Do molecular biologists wear designer genes? David S. Glaser AKA Grizz | MM Systems Administrator | Forget virus scanning. Its all about "re- U201 MME Building | education". Preferably in a parking lot with Houghton, MI 49931 | a tire iron. - BOFH [EMAIL PROTECTED] |
Re: IMAP attachments
Dave (Grizz) Glaser proclaimed on mutt-users that: Thanks, but aren't you supposed to be able to browse the IMAP folder to attach files with? If not, is there a way to automatically tell mutt where to get attached files from ? (e.g ~/ ). If there _are_ files on your remote imap folder, then well and good. Otherwise, you are just browsing _that_ folder, and you have to use mailboxes in your muttrc to define each IMAP folder you want to read. ~/ and tab is what I have been using to attach files ... maybe (rather, most likely) there is a better way available to set the default path for attachments. -s -- Suresh Ramasubramanian | sureshr at staff.juno.com Eternal nothingness is fine if you happen to be dressed for it. -- Woody Allen
mutt doesn't get new email
My mutt doesn't get new eMails. Fetchmail is fetching them an Postfix is forwarding them to the spooling directory but theres no new mail in mutt. Can anybody help? Thanks Manuel -- Registrierter Linux-User #130261 ** ** * MAXIMUM Internet Services AG | Fon +49 8152 918600 * * Gewerbestraße 13 | Fax +49 8152 918610 * * D - 82211 Herrsching | URL http://www.maximum-ag.de * ** **
reply macro
Is it possible, when I read a mail A with mutt, to reply this mail with a macro, with body containing the subject of A ? The thing I want to do with this is to automatically notify the sender of the mail A that I've read his mail Merci beaucoup for any idea Antoine
Re: reply macro
Antoine Martin proclaimed on mutt-users that: Is it possible, when I read a mail A with mutt, to reply this mail with a macro, with body containing the subject of A ? The thing I want to do with this is to automatically notify the sender of the mail A that I've read his mail This should, in theory, be sent only when a guy has the Disposition-Notification-To: or Return-Receipt-To: header in his mail. Several mailers implement it in several different ways, though :( -- Suresh Ramasubramanian | sureshr at staff.juno.com The more things change, the more they stay insane.
Re: reply macro
On Thu, May 18, 2000 at 05:59:21PM +0530, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote: Antoine Martin proclaimed on mutt-users that: Is it possible, when I read a mail A with mutt, to reply this mail with a macro, with body containing the subject of A ? The thing I want to do with this is to automatically notify the sender of the mail A that I've read his mail This should, in theory, be sent only when a guy has the Disposition-Notification-To: or Return-Receipt-To: header in his mail. Several mailers implement it in several different ways, though :( When I receive a Mail with one of those headers, I would like to notify the user (if I want, of course) that I've read his mail with a macro, cause mutt don't seem to implement this feature Antoine
Re: reply macro
Antoine Martin proclaimed on mutt-users that: Several mailers implement it in several different ways, though :( When I receive a Mail with one of those headers, I would like to notify the user (if I want, of course) that I've read his mail with a macro, cause mutt don't seem to implement this feature Procmail is better for this imho. Set up a dummy account on your local box, which has a procmailrc set to return an autoack to the sender - bounce it to that account with some keybinding, say. [rube goldberg solution, sort of] -- Suresh Ramasubramanian | sureshr at staff.juno.com Pick another fortune cookie.
Re: reply macro
On Thu, May 18, 2000 at 06:24:29PM +0530, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote: Antoine Martin proclaimed on mutt-users that: Several mailers implement it in several different ways, though :( When I receive a Mail with one of those headers, I would like to notify the user (if I want, of course) that I've read his mail with a macro, cause mutt don't seem to implement this feature Procmail is better for this imho. Set up a dummy account on your local box, which has a procmailrc set to return an autoack to the sender - bounce it to that account with some keybinding, say. [rube goldberg solution, sort of] Yes I could do it with procmail, but it is not what I meant : procmail can notify that I've received the mail, but can't notify that I've *read* it. Antoine
Re: reply macro
Antoine Martin proclaimed on mutt-users that: Procmail is better for this imho. Set up a dummy account on your local box, which has a procmailrc set to return an autoack to the sender - bounce it to that account with some keybinding, say. [rube goldberg solution, sort of] Yes I could do it with procmail, but it is not what I meant : procmail can notify that I've received the mail, but can't notify that I've *read* it. That is what I said - I will spell it out a bit better :) 1. You receive mail and read it 2. Your .muttrc has a line - unignore Disposition-Notificiation-To, Return-Receipt-To 3. You read the mail and then bounce it to a dummy account on your box (assuming you have root privileges and can add users, that is) :) 4. A .procmailrc on that dummy account has an autoresponder which will respond to the original sender "Hi, I've read your message, I'll get back to you ASAP". got it? -- Suresh Ramasubramanian | sureshr at staff.juno.com Brain, n.: The apparatus with which we think that we think. -- Ambrose Bierce, "The Devil's Dictionary"
Re: reply macro
On Thu, May 18, 2000 at 06:42:37PM +0530, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote: Antoine Martin proclaimed on mutt-users that: Procmail is better for this imho. Set up a dummy account on your local box, which has a procmailrc set to return an autoack to the sender - bounce it to that account with some keybinding, say. [rube goldberg solution, sort of] Yes I could do it with procmail, but it is not what I meant : procmail can notify that I've received the mail, but can't notify that I've *read* it. That is what I said - I will spell it out a bit better :) 1. You receive mail and read it 2. Your .muttrc has a line - unignore Disposition-Notificiation-To, Return-Receipt-To 3. You read the mail and then bounce it to a dummy account on your box (assuming you have root privileges and can add users, that is) :) 4. A .procmailrc on that dummy account has an autoresponder which will respond to the original sender "Hi, I've read your message, I'll get back to you ASAP". got it? Yes thank you, I understand better now, I just have to do a macro that bounce to that dummy user, but I'm not root, so I need another solution :( Antoine
Re: mutt doesn't get new email
Manuel Hendel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on Thu, 18 May 2000: My mutt doesn't get new eMails. Fetchmail is fetching them an Postfix is forwarding them to the spooling directory but theres no new mail in mutt. It is very likely that you're not telling Mutt where it should be looking for new mail. If you know your incoming mail folder's location, you can test things by starting Mutt from the command line with: mutt -f /path/to/your/incoming/folder If you see your incoming emails then, it's only a matter of configuring the default location. If you don't see the emails, then something is wrong, but what that might be is very difficult to guess without more details. If you don't know the location where they are going, find out, then start from the beginning. :-) Hope this helps, Mikko -- // Mikko Hänninen, aka. Wizzu // [EMAIL PROTECTED] // http://www.iki.fi/wiz/ // The Corrs list maintainer // net.freak // DALnet IRC operator / // Interests: roleplaying, Linux, the Net, fantasy scifi, the Corrs / The facts, although interesting, are irrelevant.
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Re: reply macro
On Thu, May 18, 2000 at 03:21:36PM +0200, Antoine Martin wrote: Yes thank you, I understand better now, I just have to do a macro that bounce to that dummy user, but I'm not root, so I need another solution :( What kind of MTA is on your box? If qmail, you should be able to use the address-extensions for that... (.i.e. create a .qmail-notify in your $HOME and put the appropriate into it; you bounce then to me-notify). HTH Frank
Can't read other charsets
Guys, I'm not sure if you got this message. If you did, just disregard it. I can't seem to be able to read messages in other encodings with mutt. Setting "charset" to anything does not help at all. This is my compile options: -DOMAIN -HOMESPOOL +USE_SETGID +USE_DOTLOCK -USE_FCNTL -USE_FLOCK +USE_IMAP +USE_POP +HAVE_REGCOMP -USE_GNU_REGEX +HAVE_COLOR +HAVE_PGP5 +HAVE_PGP2 +HAVE_GPG -BUFFY_SIZE -EXACT_ADDRESS +ENABLE_NLS SENDMAIL="/usr/sbin/sendmail" MAILPATH="/var/spool/mail" SHAREDIR="/usr/share/mutt" SYSCONFDIR="/etc" ISPELL="/usr/bin/ispell" _PGPPATH="/usr/bin/pgp" _PGPV2PATH="/usr/bin/pgp" _PGPV3PATH="/usr/bin/pgp" Any help is appriciated, Sergei
Re: reply macro
On Thu, May 18, 2000 at 03:43:05PM +0200, Frank Derichsweiler wrote: On Thu, May 18, 2000 at 03:21:36PM +0200, Antoine Martin wrote: Yes thank you, I understand better now, I just have to do a macro that bounce to that dummy user, but I'm not root, so I need another solution :( What kind of MTA is on your box? If qmail, you should be able to use the address-extensions for that... (.i.e. create a .qmail-notify in your $HOME and put the appropriate into it; you bounce then to me-notify). I think I found a solution : I just have to pipe the message in this shell script to notify the message sender that I've read his mail. So it will be easy to assign a macro to this script. --- #!/bin/sh TO=`tee /tmp/mutt_notify.$USER | formail -R Return-Receipt-To: Disposition-Notification-To: | formail -R X-Confirm-Reading-To: Disposition-Notification-To: | formail -x Disposition-Notification-To:` SUBJECT=`formail -x Subject: /tmp/mutt_notify.$USER` FROM=`formail -x To: /tmp/mutt_notify.$USER` DATE=`date` if [ -n $TO ] ; then echo "Your message has been displayed on the \ screen of$FROM on $DATE" | mailx -s "NOTIFICATION OF:$SUBJECT" $USER fi rm -f /tmp/mutt_notify.$USER Antoine
support for compressed folders in 1.2?
Folks- I'm making the move from 0.95.5i to 1.2 to get all of the useful changes therein. However, I'd been using Alain Penders' support for compressed folders in 0.95.5i, and now can't live without it. :) I tried just patching the existing diffs into 1.2, but of course that failed. Before I go through and port this stuff over to 1.2, does anybody know if this has already been done? Thanks much! eric
Re: support for compressed folders in 1.2?
heh. nevermind. found it on spinnaker. pls ignore... eric On Thu, May 18, 2000 at 09:37:19AM -0400, Eric Osborne wrote: Folks- I'm making the move from 0.95.5i to 1.2 to get all of the useful changes therein. However, I'd been using Alain Penders' support for compressed folders in 0.95.5i, and now can't live without it. :) I tried just patching the existing diffs into 1.2, but of course that failed. Before I go through and port this stuff over to 1.2, does anybody know if this has already been done? Thanks much! eric
Re: support for compressed folders in 1.2?
I'm making the move from 0.95.5i to 1.2 to get all of the useful changes therein. However, I'd been using Alain Penders' support for compressed folders in 0.95.5i, and now can't live without it. :) I tried just patching the existing diffs into 1.2, but of course that failed. Before I go through and port this stuff over to 1.2, does anybody know if this has already been done? Thanks much! http://www.spinnaker.de/mutt/#compressed
Re: support for compressed folders in 1.2?
Eric -- ...and then Eric Osborne said... % Folks- % % I'm making the move from 0.95.5i to 1.2 to get all of the useful % changes therein. However, I'd been using Alain Penders' support for % compressed folders in 0.95.5i, and now can't live without it. :) I can imagine! That's pretty old, though. % % I tried just patching the existing diffs into 1.2, but of course % that failed. Before I go through and port this stuff over to 1.2, % does anybody know if this has already been done? Thanks much! See http://www.rhein.de/~roland/mutt/ for the rr.compressed patch. Have fun :-) % % eric :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.bigfoot.com/~davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! The "new millennium" starts at the beginning of 2001. There was no year 0. Note: If bigfoot.com gives you fits, try sector13.org in its place. *sigh* PGP signature
Re: help with imap
On Tue, May 16, 2000 at 09:53:31PM +0300, Mikko Hänninen wrote: Can I use mutt to access both my local emails and the emails stored on an IMAP server? Yes. Although there's some tricks in the browsing apparently, when changing from remote to local or vice versa. Just my observations from following discussions on mutt-users, I don't use IMAP myself. My observations with 1.1.14 are different. You have to get used to it, but it's been a change after using netscape on a winbox anyway (not that I mind). Kai -- x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x Kai Blin(mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) Webmaster Inst. of Human Genetics Dept. of Molecular Genetics Wilhelmstr 27 phone (49)7071-2974890 D 72074 Tuebingen, Germany fax (49)7071-295233 http://www.uni-tuebingen.de/uni/thm/molgen/molgen.html Do molecular biologists wear designer genes? x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x
Binding bug + minor annoyance.
Mutt version: Mutt 1.0.1i (2000-01-18) Is this a bug? == generic binding seems to be broke. Am I doing something wrong? bind generic j previous-entry bind generic k next-entry bind index j noop bind index k noop When I hit 'k' or 'j' in the index, it gives me a "Key is not bound." error. Yet, when I go to the binding listing screen (by hitting '?'), 'j' and 'k' show up in the generic bindings section as bound to the functions I assigned. Something else == While I'm bringing this up - It'd be nice if I didn't have to do a 'noop' for the same key multiple times (for the reoccuring menu-specific bindings) , just so that my generic binding can apply to those menus. It kind of defeats the purpose of generic bindings in my opinion. I can't reliably set up a key to work in multiple menus with one command. I understand the advantages of menu-speicif coverriding generic bindings. I'm just wondering if perhaps there's some middle ground, like a way to 'force' a generic binding into any menu. Thanks for listening. - Larry
Re: Binding bug + minor annoyance.
Larry P. Schrof: When I hit 'k' or 'j' in the index, it gives me a "Key is not bound." error. Yet, when I go to the binding listing screen (by hitting '?'), 'j' and 'k' show up in the generic bindings section as bound to the functions I assigned. think about it over a nice cup of hot chocolate. this is exactly how it is supposed to work. you specified no operation for j and k in the index, so they count as unbound. if you change into another menu of keybindings, they show up with their generic keybinding, if nothing special is defined. It'd be nice if I didn't have to do a 'noop' for the same key multiple times (for the reoccuring menu-specific bindings) , just so that my generic binding can apply to those menus. It kind of defeats the purpose of generic bindings in my opinion. I can't reliably set up a you have understood the concept very well. leave out those noops, define generic bindings as defaults, specials for your specific requirements, and you are set. -- clemens [EMAIL PROTECTED] do D4685B884894C483 gpg recv-key 0x9 echo `gpg list-key 0x9 | cat -tv` | \ gpg encrypt `gpg list-key 0x9 | 822address` | \ mail -s your-key `gpg list-key 0x9 | 822address` wait
Re: Timer event
I just do a timer event as following:
to initial a time beat and handler
==
#include signal.h
#include uinstd.h
#include sys/time.h
#include gnome.h
enum {
BEAT,
LAST_SIGNAL
};
struct itimerval itv, oitv;
guint time_signals[LAST_SIGNAL];
void beat_close()
{
setitimer( ITIMER_REAL, oitv, itv );
}
void beat_handler( int sig )
{
/**
* emit signal to objects *
**/
gtk_signal_emit( /* gtk object */, time_signals[BEAT] );
...
}
int beat_init()
{
static struct sigatcion act;
/**
* clear old beat *
**/
itv.it_interval.tv_sec = 0;
itv.it_interval.tv_usec = 0;
it.it_value.tv_sec = 0;
it.it_value.tv_usec = 0;
setitimer( ITIMER_REAL, itv, oitv );
/
* create new signal "beat" *
/
time_signals[BEAT] = gtk_signal_new( "beat",
GTK_RUN_LAST | GTK_RUN_ACTION,
GTK_TYPE_OBJECT,
0,
gtk_marshall_NONE__NONE,
GTK_TYPE_NONE, 0 );
/
* set action for alarm *
/
act.sa_handler = beat_handler;
sigemptyset( act.sa_mask );
sigaddset( act.sa_mask, SIGALRM );
return( sigaction( SIGALRM, act, NULL ) );
}
to connect to signal "beat"
===
...
gtk_object_class_add_signals( GTK_OBJECT(widget)-klass,
time_signals, LAST_SIGNAL );
gtk_signal_connect( GTK_OBJECT(widget), "beat"
GTK_SIGNAL_FUNC(on_what_object_handler_when_beat),
NULL );
...
HTH
On Thu, May 18, 2000 at 06:41:35PM -0700, Dominique Nerriere wrote:
Hi all,
I didn't find a way to generate an event with a timer, does gtk/gtk/glib provide
such a thing?
I need a function to be called every 1/33 seconde
Thanks for your help :)
Dominique
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Re: Timer event
just forget to start the time beat:
===
unsigned int t;
t = /* what you want in micro seconds */
itv.it_value.tv_sec = t / 100;
itv.it_value.tv_usec = t % 100;
itv.it_interval.tv_sec = itv.it_value.tv_sec;
itv.it_interval.tv_usec = itv.it_value.tv_usec;
setitimer( ITIMER_REAL, itv, 0 );
On Fri, May 19, 2000 at 10:14:09AM +0800, Reed Lai wrote:
I just do a timer event as following:
to initial a time beat and handler
==
#include signal.h
#include uinstd.h
#include sys/time.h
#include gnome.h
enum {
BEAT,
LAST_SIGNAL
};
struct itimerval itv, oitv;
guint time_signals[LAST_SIGNAL];
void beat_close()
{
setitimer( ITIMER_REAL, oitv, itv );
}
void beat_handler( int sig )
{
/**
* emit signal to objects *
**/
gtk_signal_emit( /* gtk object */, time_signals[BEAT] );
...
}
int beat_init()
{
static struct sigatcion act;
/**
* clear old beat *
**/
itv.it_interval.tv_sec = 0;
itv.it_interval.tv_usec = 0;
it.it_value.tv_sec = 0;
it.it_value.tv_usec = 0;
setitimer( ITIMER_REAL, itv, oitv );
/
* create new signal "beat" *
/
time_signals[BEAT] = gtk_signal_new( "beat",
GTK_RUN_LAST | GTK_RUN_ACTION,
GTK_TYPE_OBJECT,
0,
gtk_marshall_NONE__NONE,
GTK_TYPE_NONE, 0 );
/
* set action for alarm *
/
act.sa_handler = beat_handler;
sigemptyset( act.sa_mask );
sigaddset( act.sa_mask, SIGALRM );
return( sigaction( SIGALRM, act, NULL ) );
}
to connect to signal "beat"
===
...
gtk_object_class_add_signals( GTK_OBJECT(widget)-klass,
time_signals, LAST_SIGNAL );
gtk_signal_connect( GTK_OBJECT(widget), "beat"
GTK_SIGNAL_FUNC(on_what_object_handler_when_beat),
NULL );
...
HTH
On Thu, May 18, 2000 at 06:41:35PM -0700, Dominique Nerriere wrote:
Hi all,
I didn't find a way to generate an event with a timer, does gtk/gtk/glib provide
such a thing?
I need a function to be called every 1/33 seconde
Thanks for your help :)
Dominique
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Two problems with mutt-1.2
I just updated my existing 1.0.x copy of mutt to v1.2 last night. Configuration and compiling went okay with no errors. I used this to configure mutt: ./configure --enable-pop --enable-flock --disable-fcntl --sysconfdir=/etc --with-slang=/usr/include/slang (I also tried it without the slang entry, so it used ncurses by default). So far, I've ran into two "problems". They are this error: Error in /home/hall/.muttrc, line 18: 0: invalid value source: errors in /home/hall/.muttrc Press any key to continue This is the "guilty" line: set sendmail_wait=0 Perfectly valid, I thought. Worked fine with 1.0.x. And even the sample Muttrc file shows it as an option. My other problem is *no* colors at all. I'm using the same .muttrc file as before and I had colors. Did I miss a configure option ?? Typing "mutt -v" shows the "+HAVE_COLOR" flag. FWIW, here's all of what "mutt -v" shows: mutt -v Mutt 1.2i (2000-05-09) Copyright (C) 1996-2000 Michael R. Elkins and others. Mutt comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY; for details type `mutt -vv'. Mutt is free software, and you are welcome to redistribute it under certain conditions; type `mutt -vv' for details. System: Linux 2.2.15 [using ncurses 5.0] Compile options: -DOMAIN +DEBUG -HOMESPOOL +USE_SETGID +USE_DOTLOCK -USE_FCNTL +USE_FLOCK -USE_IMAP -USE_GSS -USE_SSL +USE_POP +HAVE_REGCOMP -USE_GNU_REGEX +HAVE_COLOR +HAVE_PGP -BUFFY_SIZE -EXACT_ADDRESS +ENABLE_NLS SENDMAIL="/usr/sbin/sendmail" MAILPATH="/var/spool/mail" SHAREDIR="/usr/local/share/mutt" SYSCONFDIR="/etc" ISPELL="/usr/bin/ispell" To contact the developers, please mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]. To report a bug, please use the muttbug utility. Any help is greatly appreciated !! ;-) Thanks in advance. Hall
Re: Two problems with mutt-1.2
Hall Stevenson proclaimed on mutt-users that: set sendmail_wait=0 Try sendmail_wait=-1 :) -- Suresh Ramasubramanian | sureshr at staff.juno.com Spend extra time on hobby. Get plenty of rolling papers.
fix for redhat 1.2i mutt char encodings
i asked last week about a more recent rpm that did not have broken SHAREDIR, etc. like the original redhat 6.2 had. redhat released an update, mutt-1.2i-2, but it needs to have --enable-locales-fix added to the ./prepare line for accented chars to print (the --with-charmaps option does not seem to affect at all). so, instead of 3737 X 000518 D?nis Riedijk ( 32) Re: ... i like to see: 3737 X 000518 Dènis Riedijk ( 32) Re: ... as well as inside messages, this: for me it works with german special characters like ? ? ? without any problems. Thinks like ? ? are also possible. vs this: for me it works with german special characters like ö ä ü without any problems. Thinks like á é are also possible. thanks, ++ carlos
Re: reply macro
Antione, Suresh, et al -- ...and then Suresh Ramasubramanian said... % Antoine Martin proclaimed on mutt-users that: % % Procmail is better for this imho. Set up a dummy account on your local % box, which has a procmailrc set to return an autoack to the sender - % bounce it to that account with some keybinding, say. Procmail is still good for this, but why bother with the dummy account? Why not just pipe thru procmail and call a specific procmailrc that pipes the message to the autoresponder -- or, in fact, why not just pipe the message to a script that generates a boilerplate message using the existing subject and sends it to whoiever is in the DSN and RRT fields? :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.bigfoot.com/~davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! The "new millennium" starts at the beginning of 2001. There was no year 0. Note: If bigfoot.com gives you fits, try sector13.org in its place. *sigh* PGP signature
Re: reply macro
David T-G proclaimed on mutt-users that: Procmail is still good for this, but why bother with the dummy account? Why not just pipe thru procmail and call a specific procmailrc that pipes the message to the autoresponder -- or, in fact, why not just pipe the message to a script that generates a boilerplate message using the existing subject and sends it to whoiever is in the DSN and RRT fields? Can do - I was thinking of setting this up for _all_ users on a box :) -- Suresh Ramasubramanian | sureshr at staff.juno.com Never commit yourself! Let someone else commit you.
Re: reply macro
Suresh -- ...and then Suresh Ramasubramanian said... % David T-G proclaimed on mutt-users that: % % message to a script that generates a boilerplate message using the % existing subject and sends it to whoiever is in the DSN and RRT fields? % % Can do - I was thinking of setting this up for _all_ users on a box :) The "script" method, I hope :-) Yeah, once the script exists, it's easy enough for anyone to use it. % % -- % Suresh Ramasubramanian | sureshr at staff.juno.com % Never commit yourself! Let someone else commit you. :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.bigfoot.com/~davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! The "new millennium" starts at the beginning of 2001. There was no year 0. Note: If bigfoot.com gives you fits, try sector13.org in its place. *sigh* PGP signature
Re: Sender profiles, personalities, setting from address etc.
On Thu May 18, 2000 at 09:44:31AM +0100, Telsa Gwynne muttered: On Thu, May 18, 2000 at 12:38:31PM +0530 or thereabouts, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote: Martti Rahkila proclaimed on mutt-users that: http://www.iki.fi/martti.rahkila/mutt/profiles.html You could send your .muttrc to dotfiles.org if you think it is special, so that other users can adapt it to their needs. That would be cool. Hmm, I'm not sure if there's anything special in my muttrc apart from the profile macros. In fact, my muttrc is pretty much the same as Roland Rosenfeld's ultimate mutt settings execpt that I have all the sender related parameters in separate profile files. Maybe it's even worth adding to the Mutt link page or FAQ once its ready? I dunno, The mutt faq and manual documents this pretty ok, afaik :) Pretty good one though. I think it's worth linking. The problem with the manual is that it's so very massive and organised in a particular fashion. It's a fantastic reference once you have an idea of what's going on. It's not great if you are new and simply want to know "How do I (set up profiles|get PGP/GnuPG working|organise folders)?": ie, one particular little task which involves some stuff from section 4 about patterns, and a whole bunch of variables which are scattered through section 6 in alphabetical rather than "things which are often tweaked together" order. I'm not complaining about the manual, btw: I think it's great, and I don't think you can combine both a reference and a list of such tasks easily into one document. I do think, however, that as well as all the muttrcs linked off www.mutt.org where we all try to explain every variable we use, some things like this which explain one particular task would be great. I agree, the idea of a profile is simple but in order to make good use of it, you have to dig up several things from the manual. Like how to define macros, what variables affect sending, replying, pgp and so on. For example, I would have never thought of procmail filtering incoming mail for getting pgp to work properly :-) Anyway, thanks, Telsa and Suresh, for your quick response! Martti Rahkila - yet another (happy) Mutt-user [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: mutt and imap
Chris Green proclaimed on mutt-users that: So, no, you don't get IMAP support by default on 1.1.13 at least, and I think 1.1.13 is actually identical to 1.2. my bad ... thanks -- Suresh Ramasubramanian | sureshr at staff.juno.com Walk softly and carry a megawatt laser.
