Re: Wildcards in the mailboxes command?

2000-10-12 Thread Patric Mrawek

* David T-G [EMAIL PROTECTED] [001012 04:42]:

 % mailboxes ! `cd ~/mail ; for x in * ; do echo -n '=' ; echo -n $x ' '; done`
   mailboxes ! `echo ~/mail/*`
 
try this one in .muttrc

mailboxes `find ~/Mail -type f -print | grep -v sent | xargs`

works fine for me

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Re: Wildcards in the mailboxes command?

2000-10-12 Thread Conor Daly

On Thu, Oct 12, 2000 at 10:00:31AM +0200 or thereabouts, Patric Mrawek wrote:
 * David T-G [EMAIL PROTECTED] [001012 04:42]:
 
  % mailboxes ! `cd ~/mail ; for x in * ; do echo -n '=' ; echo -n $x ' '; done`
mailboxes ! `echo ~/mail/*`
  
 try this one in .muttrc
 
 mailboxes `find ~/Mail -type f -print | grep -v sent | xargs`
 
 works fine for me
 

Ok, so any ideas for an IMAP server then?  

mailboxes `echo {server}Inbox/*`

doesn't work!

Sheesh! This Dvorak keyboard layout takes some getting used to!

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Re: Wildcards in the mailboxes command?

2000-10-12 Thread Lars Hecking


  I'm subscribed to many mailing lists and I love the idea of mutt
  telling me which mailboxes have new mail. However, that would make the
  mailboxes line be yet another list of subscriptions that I would have
  to keep up to date. What I really want to do is something like:
  mailboxes ! =*
  Is it possible to do this? If not, consider it a feature request. :)
 
 weasel@marvin:~$ grep mailboxes .mutt/muttrc 
 mailboxes /var/spool/mail/weasel `echo 
$HOME/.Mail/{IN,People*,Projects*,Debian*,Maillists*,Newsletters*,Cron*,Errors*,spam}`
 
 I don't think this works as expected. It will only see the folders that
 actually exist when mutt is started (and .muttrc parsed). It won't pick
 up any folders that come into being while mutt is running.




signature to appear on top when replying mail

2000-10-12 Thread Benny Chee

how can the signature file be placed on top rather than below when replying a mail?

Top as in above the content of the mail i m replying to.


Benny
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Re: signature to appear on top when replying mail

2000-10-12 Thread Lars Hecking

Benny Chee writes:
 how can the signature file be placed on top rather than below when replying a mail?
 
 Top as in above the content of the mail i m replying to.
 
 That's a rather daft idea.

 Many mail clients/editors are configured to snip anything below the
 signature separator - which in that case would remove content.




Re: signature to appear on top when replying mail

2000-10-12 Thread Martin Schröder

On 2000-10-12 19:36:45 +0800, Benny Chee wrote:
 how can the signature file be placed on top rather than below when replying a mail?

If it's possible, you don't want to do this. 

Read the section on quoting in
http://members.aol.com/intwg/guide.htm

Best regards
Martin

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mutt and IMAP

2000-10-12 Thread Dan Boger

just started playing with IMAP a little (mostly to read postmaster mail)
and I was wondering about mutt's IMAP support...  Is anyone using it?

Here's some of my questions...  Is there a way to browse the server folders,
without knowing in advance which folders are available?  Does the new mail
notify work for imap folders?  Is there a way (without macros) to teach
mutt which IMAP servers/folders I usually read, and have it selectable?

:)

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Re: signature to appear on top when replying mail

2000-10-12 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian

Martin Schröder proclaimed on mutt-users that: 

 On 2000-10-12 19:36:45 +0800, Benny Chee wrote:

  how can the signature file be placed on top rather than below when replying
  a mail?
 
 If it's possible, you don't want to do this. 
 Read the section on quoting in
 http://members.aol.com/intwg/guide.htm
 
 Sadly, nobody told m$ outhouse users that ;)
 Anyway, set attribution="`cat .signature`\nOn %d you wrote" (or whatever)
 ought to work.
 
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Re: signature to appear on top when replying mail

2000-10-12 Thread Kai Blin

Sitting at the campfire, Martin Schröder told:

[...]

 P.S.: Do we have some pointers to netiquette in the manual/newbie
   guide?

Not up to now. But you could write something, if you like :)
Yes, I read the url you supplied, it's a good one, too. Looks like I'm going
to send it to quite a bunch of people.. :)

Greets, 
Kai


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Re: Wildcards in the mailboxes command?

2000-10-12 Thread David T-G

Conor --

...and then Conor Daly said...
% On Thu, Oct 12, 2000 at 10:00:31AM +0200 or thereabouts, Patric Mrawek wrote:
%  * David T-G [EMAIL PROTECTED] [001012 04:42]:
%  
% mailboxes ! `echo ~/mail/*`
%  
%  mailboxes `find ~/Mail -type f -print | grep -v sent | xargs`

[BTW, Patric, you shouldn't even need the xargs on there.]


% Ok, so any ideas for an IMAP server then?  
% 
% mailboxes `echo {server}Inbox/*`
% 
% doesn't work!

Hmmm...  Yeah, I can see that.  No, that would be quite a trick.  Perhaps
one of the IMAP experts here knows if there's a simple way to query an
IMAP server for a directory listing so that something like

  mailboxes `get_imap_server_folder_list | egrep 'only|wanted|folders'`

would work...


% 
% Sheesh! This Dvorak keyboard layout takes some getting used to!
% 
% www.mindprod.com/dsk.html

Hey, thanks!


% 
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Re: signature to appear on top when replying mail

2000-10-12 Thread Thomas Roessler

On 2000-10-12 12:44:59 +0100, Lars Hecking wrote:

 how can the signature file be placed on top rather than below
 when replying a mail?

Just abuse the $attribution setting and include your signature
there.  For instance, I could do something like this:

set attribution="-- \nThomas Roessler [EMAIL PROTECTED]\n\n\nOn %d, %n 
wrote:"

 Top as in above the content of the mail i m replying to.

  That's a rather daft idea.

  Many mail clients/editors are configured to snip anything below
  the signature separator - which in that case would remove
  content.

Well, it depends.  In certain corporate settings, that much-hated
Notes-style quoting is actually useful: Just imagine a lengthy
exchange of e-mail messages on a certain topic, where, at some
point, a third party is included.  That person can easily read the
entire exchange of messages, and thus easily enter the exchange
without having to be briefed.

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Re: mutt and IMAP

2000-10-12 Thread Kai Blin

Sitting at the campfire, Dan Boger told:
 just started playing with IMAP a little (mostly to read postmaster mail)
 and I was wondering about mutt's IMAP support...  Is anyone using it?

Yes, I am. It works fine.

 Here's some of my questions...  Is there a way to browse the server folders,
 without knowing in advance which folders are available?  

None that I'm aware of, but perhaps Brendan (he did most of the IMAP stuff)
knows more about it.

 Does the new mail notify work for imap folders?  

Yes, it works nicely

 Is there a way (without macros) to teach
 mutt which IMAP servers/folders I usually read, and have it selectable?

You mean like the mailboxes option in .muttrc?
Yes!

 :) [Note: its quoted, not :) (little devil) :)  ]

Greets, 
Kai

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Re: mutt and IMAP

2000-10-12 Thread Dan Boger

On Thu, Oct 12, 2000 at 03:00:27PM +0200, Kai Blin wrote:
  Does the new mail notify work for imap folders?  
 
 Yes, it works nicely

ok, how do I get it to work?  I put the IMAP folders I want in my $mailboxes,
but I never get notified still?

  Is there a way (without macros) to teach
  mutt which IMAP servers/folders I usually read, and have it selectable?
 
 You mean like the mailboxes option in .muttrc?
 Yes!

I actually meant without putting them in the $mailboxes - I guess that ties
into folder browsing in general..

:)

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Re: mutt and IMAP

2000-10-12 Thread Kai Blin

Sitting at the campfire, Dan Boger told:

 ok, how do I get it to [mail notifying] work?  I put the IMAP folders I want
 in my $mailboxes, but I never get notified still?

I have a line like this in my .muttrc
mailboxes ! {[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ssl}inbox

note the ! (exclamation mark, is it?). Now it will show an N in the "change
to another mailbox" window. (the one you reach through c?tab)
Other than that, I'm not shure.

   Is there a way (without macros) to teach
   mutt which IMAP servers/folders I usually read, and have it selectable?
  
  You mean like the mailboxes option in .muttrc?
  Yes!
 
 I actually meant without putting them in the $mailboxes - I guess that ties
 into folder browsing in general..

No, not if you leave $folder on ~/Mail...

Kai

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vi-like line editing

2000-10-12 Thread the/eXtreme

Hey, is there a way to get vi-like key bindings on mutt's
built-in line editor?  Something like `set editing-mode vi'
does in my .inputrc?

You can fake it a little bit with stuff like

bind editor h   backward-char

as long as you don't use `h' anywhere in the text [:-/

TIA/x



Re: Mutt and vim enhancment

2000-10-12 Thread Peter Solodov

Again, there were some "bugs" in the function. Here's the final version.
No more "set edit_headers" assumption, no quotation problems.

function M_settitle()
let i = 1
let line = getline(i)
while (match(line, "To:") == -1  line != "")
let i = i + 1
let line = getline(i)
endwhile
if (line != "")
let i = match(line, " ") + 1
let j = match(line, "") - 1
if j == -2
let j = match(line, ",")
endif
if j == -1
let j = strlen(line)
endif
let len = j - i
let address = strpart(line, i, len)
let title = "Mail to " . address
let title = substitute(title, " ", " ", "g")
let title = substitute(title, "\"", "", "g")
execute 'set titlestring=' . title
execute 'set iconstring=' . title
else
execute 'set titlestring=Mutt'
execute 'set iconstring=Mutt'
endif
execute 'set titleold=Mutt'
endfunc

Is it useful for someone besides me? :-)

Regards,
Peter.



Mutt in batch mode

2000-10-12 Thread Jean-Paul Laberge

Hi,

I'd like to know how to use 'mutt' in batch mode, without a user
intervention.  I use the following command:

mutt -a attached.txt -s "Test from MUTT" jplaberge@.aircanada.ca

but I'm always going in the user interface.

Is it possible to do it?  And, if yes, do you know how to do it?

Thanks

Jean-Paul Laberge








Re: Wildcards in the mailboxes command?

2000-10-12 Thread Mikko Hänninen

David T-G [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on Thu, 12 Oct 2000:
 %  mailboxes `find ~/Mail -type f -print | grep -v sent | xargs`
 
 [BTW, Patric, you shouldn't even need the xargs on there.]

Really?  I thought it was a known "feature" that Mutt's ``-expansion
only pays attention to the first line of the output?  If that's so,
then the xargs is useful in converting multi-line listing to a
single-line listing.

 IMAP server for a directory listing so that something like
 
   mailboxes `get_imap_server_folder_list | egrep 'only|wanted|folders'`
 
 would work...

That feature could be added into the command-line IMAP filtering tool
that's been speculated about. ;-)


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Re: signature to appear on top when replying mail

2000-10-12 Thread Dan Boger

On Thu, Oct 12, 2000 at 07:36:45PM +0800, Benny Chee wrote:
 how can the signature file be placed on top rather than below when replying a mail?

 Top as in above the content of the mail i m replying to.

you could always do something like this:

set editor = '/bin/vi -c /^$/:r.signature'

or

set editor = '/bin/vi -c /^$/:r!makesig'

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Re: Changing my_hdr back to default

2000-10-12 Thread -kevin-

Ben,

On 00-08-07 15:33, Ben Beuchler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I've setup up a macro for sending mail as another "persona" that looks
 something like this:
 
 macro index M ":my_hdr From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]enterm"
 
 What I'm trying to work out is a way to automatically switch back to
 using my normal information for any future emails.
 
 Any suggestions?

I didn't see this one mentioned, but since I sort my messages
(using procmail) into separate folders, I just use folder hooks to
switch identities:


#   Don't let mutt set the header
#   This will be a personalities thing,
#   which will let me author messages based on current mailbox
#   default
folder-hook . "my_hdr From: -kevin- [EMAIL PROTECTED]"
folder-hook . "my_hdr Organization: none"
folder-hook . "set signature=~/.signature"
send-hook '~t [EMAIL PROTECTED]' "set signature=~/.signature_love"

#   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
folder-hook =in-birdbrain "my_hdr From: -kevin- [EMAIL PROTECTED]"
folder-hook =in-birdbrain "my_hdr Organization: BirdBrain Systems"
folder-hook =in-birdbrain "set signature=~/.signature.birdbrain"
fcc-hook '~f [EMAIL PROTECTED]' =out-birdbrain


This is actually handy because generally I want my identity to
match the messages I am responding to.  I also threw in stuff
which stores outbound messages in separate folders.

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mutt on Linux via ssh from FreeBSD

2000-10-12 Thread Dennis Melentyev

Hi all!

I've some problem when I try to use mutt via ssh connection from FreeBSD
4.1.1 to Linux 2.0.36

The problem is: I'got some mess on the screen if I try to scroll message by
pressing Return. The bottom and top lines around the message body are
disappear, old value of row number is scrolled with the message text.

There isn't such problem in xterm and linux console. Just from FBSD one.

The TERM variable is set to `cons25r', and I have appropriate entry in
/etc/termcap on linux. All the other programs are run correctly.

Here is my mutt compile-time configuration:

Mutt 1.2.5i (2000-07-28)
Copyright (C) 1996-2000 Michael R. Elkins and others.
Mutt comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY; for details type `mutt -vv'.
Mutt is free software, and you are welcome to redistribute it
under certain conditions; type `mutt -vv' for details.

System: Linux 2.0.36 [using slang 10202]
Compile options:
-DOMAIN
-DEBUG
-HOMESPOOL  +USE_SETGID  +USE_DOTLOCK  +USE_FCNTL  -USE_FLOCK
-USE_IMAP  -USE_GSS  -USE_SSL  -USE_POP  +HAVE_REGCOMP  -USE_GNU_REGEX  
+HAVE_COLOR  +HAVE_PGP  -BUFFY_SIZE -EXACT_ADDRESS  +ENABLE_NLS
SENDMAIL="/usr/sbin/sendmail"
MAILPATH="/var/spool/mail"
SHAREDIR="/usr/local/share/mutt"
SYSCONFDIR="/usr/local/etc"
-ISPELL
To contact the developers, please mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED].
To report a bug, please use the muttbug utility.

slrn (which uses slang, sure) has the same problem too.
How can I correct this. Wrong termcap? Problem with slang?

10x
 
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Re: vi-like line editing

2000-10-12 Thread Michael Elkins

On Thu, Oct 12, 2000 at 09:20:25AM -0500, the/eXtreme wrote:
 Hey, is there a way to get vi-like key bindings on mutt's
 built-in line editor?  Something like `set editing-mode vi'
 does in my .inputrc?

No.  All the keymaps in Mutt have only a single mode, so it's not possible
to do this really.  Although...  You could do something like:

bind editor i   source ~/.mutt/insert-mode
bind editor \e  source ~/.mutt/command-mode

Nasty hack but you might be able to get this to switch between the two
modes.

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Re: Mutt in batch mode

2000-10-12 Thread Rich Lafferty

On Wed, Oct 11, 2000 at 03:53:51PM -0400, Jean-Paul Laberge ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 
wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I'd like to know how to use 'mutt' in batch mode, without a user
 intervention.  I use the following command:
 
 mutt -a attached.txt -s "Test from MUTT" jplaberge@.aircanada.ca
 
 but I'm always going in the user interface.

It expects something on STDIN.

It makes sense if you don't attach something, that this:

  mutt -s "test" [EMAIL PROTECTED]

take you into the UI, but this:

  mutt -s "test" [EMAIL PROTECTED]  content.txt

not do so. If you *only* want to send an attachment but without any
message body, then

  mutt -a attached.txt -s "test" [EMAIL PROTECTED]  /dev/null

Cheers,

  -Rich

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Mutt on Mac OS X ?

2000-10-12 Thread Eugene Lee

Just wondering if anyone has gotten Mutt to work under the Mac OS X
Public Beta.


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Re: Newbie questions

2000-10-12 Thread Perry The Cynic

On Fri, Oct 06, 2000 at 07:28:36AM +0300, Mikko Hänninen wrote:
 Perry The Cynic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on Thu, 05 Oct 2000:
 [...] Is there a way to *not* have to type the initial
  "=" character? It works of course if I chdir to ~/mail before running
  mutt, but that's a wee bit lame.
 
 Well, you can make c into a macro, that will first invoke the
 change-folder function and then pre-type the = for you.
 
   macro index c change-folder=
 
 That way you don't have to type it. :-)  Of course, if you don't want it
 there for some reason sometimes, you have to then manually erase it.

Perfect. And obvious, after you pointed it out. :-)

Thank you all for your advice. This is pretty cool.
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Re: mutt on Linux via ssh from FreeBSD

2000-10-12 Thread Thomas Dickey

On Thu, Oct 12, 2000 at 07:17:21PM +0300, Dennis Melentyev wrote:
 Hi all!
 
 I've some problem when I try to use mutt via ssh connection from FreeBSD
 4.1.1 to Linux 2.0.36
 
 The problem is: I'got some mess on the screen if I try to scroll message by
 pressing Return. The bottom and top lines around the message body are
 disappear, old value of row number is scrolled with the message text.

probably something is not setting your screen size properly.
cons25r is close enough to vt100 that most of the cursor movement
will work properly - but it has 25 lines rather than 24.  programs
that set scrolling margins (cons25r appears to have none, so it's worse
than normal for this condition) will not work properly.
 
 There isn't such problem in xterm and linux console. Just from FBSD one.
 
 The TERM variable is set to `cons25r', and I have appropriate entry in
 /etc/termcap on linux. All the other programs are run correctly.

but is that $TERM on your local or remote connection?
 
 Here is my mutt compile-time configuration:
 
 Mutt 1.2.5i (2000-07-28)
 Copyright (C) 1996-2000 Michael R. Elkins and others.
 Mutt comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY; for details type `mutt -vv'.
 Mutt is free software, and you are welcome to redistribute it
 under certain conditions; type `mutt -vv' for details.
 
 System: Linux 2.0.36 [using slang 10202]
...
 slrn (which uses slang, sure) has the same problem too.
 How can I correct this. Wrong termcap? Problem with slang?

slang does have some hardcoded cases - perhaps it's "fixing" your terminal
description on the fly by recasting it as a vt100 (newer versions are not quite
as obtrusive, btw, but it falls short of perfection on non-vt100 terminals).

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Re: Mutt and vim enhancment

2000-10-12 Thread Bevan Broun

on Wed, Oct 11, 2000 at 12:39:46PM -0400, Peter Solodov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Is it useful for someone besides me? :-)

Im using it. I modified the first one to include the Subject but then
the 2nd one arrived and I started to modify again but decided to wait
for the finished version. There is room  in my title bar for the
subject, what about yours?

BB
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