Re: gnupg

2001-04-04 Thread Jim Lambert
 msg.pgp


Automated archiving; compressed folders

2001-04-04 Thread Andre Berger

In order to clean up my mailboxes, I'd like to move messages flagged
important AND older than a month to an archive mailbox. Can this be done
automatically? And/or based on scoring too?

Also, it would be fine to have the archive box compressed. I'm using a
patched mutt capable of that, but how to create and use a compressed
archive folder?

Andre Berger[[EMAIL PROTECTED]]



Re: vim procmail recipe

2001-04-04 Thread Lars Hecking


 How about:
 
 :0 Whc: msgid.lock
 | formail -D 8192 msgid.cache
 
 :0 a: dupes.lock
 $HOME/Mail/duplicates
 
 This is the super safe version; if you're confident w/ this, you can
 drop the second recipe and the c flag from the first.
 
 It's not a matter of confidence. This _is_ the safe version. Read
 procmailrc(5), and if the above recipe (or some variation of it)
 is not there, upgrade to a newer version of procmail.




Making mutt see folders

2001-04-04 Thread garyjones

Hi,

I've been struggling with this for a few days now. 

I've got procmail to push my mail into different folders. So, for 
example, all mails from this list will go into ~/Mail/list-mutt. But 
how /exactly/ am I supposed to persuade Mutt to look at these, tell 
me there is new mail in them, and so on? I thought I wanted
'mailboxes' in the .muttrc but that doesn't seem to work. The entry I 
used was (I think, not at that PC right now, it probably isn't 
exactly right) 'mailboxes ~/Mail/list-mutt' but (unless I missed 
something) I still only see the default mailbox. If anyone can help 
I'd really appreciate it.

Thanks,
Gary

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Re: pop

2001-04-04 Thread Thomas Roessler

On 2001-04-04 02:47:34 +0200, Johannes Zellner wrote:

 Is there a way to select a pop server like

 pop://mail.myisp.com

 somehow by completion (like I can select regular mailboxes by '='
 and tab)

I seriously doubt that you want mutt to download the entire DNS
database from all over the net... ;-)

-- 
Thomas Roessler [EMAIL PROTECTED]



draft file to use with -H option

2001-04-04 Thread Sven Tasche

Hi,
I'm looking for an example of a draft file (including header informations)
to use with the command-line-option "-H".
I need to change the FROM field and the REPLYTO field for outgoing mail.
Mutt will be started from a PHP3 - programm.

Thanks,
Sven





syntax highlighting in pager - browse mail fas

2001-04-04 Thread Thomas Duterme

Hi everyone,

I would like to get Mutt to highlight the subject line while
I browse my mail.  Why?  I go through about 500-600 emails a
day (mostly mailing lists) and it would be nice to page
through these in the pager mode and delete the threads as I
go in this mode.  Currently, I scan things through the index
since my eyes can't quite speed through things as fast in
the pager.

This was just my gut feeling for how to speed through mail
in the pager.  Anyone have any other clever ways?  I'd love
to hear how others browse through high quantities of mail.

TIA,
-Thomas



Message while delivering mail

2001-04-04 Thread Subba Rao

Hi,

When I am trying to deliver a slightly modified email from the "sent" folder
to a different user, I get the following message:

"Mailbox was externally modified.  Flags may be wrong."

Why am I getting these messages? My mail box format is maildir. I don't know
if that will help.

Please let me know what to look for and fix, so I can prevent this message.
-- 

Subba Rao
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://members.home.net/subba9/

GPG public key ID 27FC9217



Re: syntax highlighting in pager - browse mail fas

2001-04-04 Thread Jim Mock

On Wed, 04 Apr 2001 at 19:40:23 +0800, Thomas Duterme wrote:
 Hi everyone,
 
 I would like to get Mutt to highlight the subject line while
 I browse my mail.  Why?  I go through about 500-600 emails a
 day (mostly mailing lists) and it would be nice to page
 through these in the pager mode and delete the threads as I
 go in this mode.  Currently, I scan things through the index
 since my eyes can't quite speed through things as fast in
 the pager.
 
 This was just my gut feeling for how to speed through mail
 in the pager.  Anyone have any other clever ways?  I'd love
 to hear how others browse through high quantities of mail.

You can use colors in mutt's index to mark your mail.  Here's how I do
it:

   color index blue default '~p ~t [EMAIL PROTECTED]'
   color index blue default '~c [EMAIL PROTECTED]'
   color index blue default '~f [EMAIL PROTECTED]'

   color index green default '~p ~t [EMAIL PROTECTED]'
   color index green default '~c [EMAIL PROTECTED]'
   color index green default '~f [EMAIL PROTECTED]'

This makes any mail in the index to, from, or Cc'd to [EMAIL PROTECTED] blue,
and any mail to, from, or Cc'd to [EMAIL PROTECTED] green.

- jim

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keep mailbox marked new

2001-04-04 Thread Johannes Huettemeister

hi,

how do i keep a mailbox (in the pager) marked as new when there are
still unread mails in that box.
e.g. when i got 2 new mail in a mailbox (marked N), than enter the
mailbox and read only 1 mail, than leave the mailbox, the mailbox is
not marked N anymore, even if i left one mail unread.

does anyone got a hint?

greetz jo.



Re: syntax highlighting in pager - browse mail fas

2001-04-04 Thread Dave Murray

Thomas Duterme wrote on mutt-users:
 I would like to get Mutt to highlight the subject line while
 I browse my mail.  Why?  I go through about 500-600 emails a
 day (mostly mailing lists) and it would be nice to page
 through these in the pager mode and delete the threads as I
 go in this mode.  Currently, I scan things through the index
 since my eyes can't quite speed through things as fast in
 the pager.

For your .muttrc:

color  header brightyellow   black   "^subject:"
mono   header bold   "^subject:"

The mono line gives you highlighting when you call mutt in
a non color terminal.

Dave



Re: Message while delivering mail

2001-04-04 Thread Subba Rao

On  0, Suresh Ramasubramanian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Subba Rao proclaimed on mutt-users that: 
 
  When I am trying to deliver a slightly modified email from the "sent" folder
  to a different user, I get the following message:
  "Mailbox was externally modified.  Flags may be wrong."
  Why am I getting these messages? My mail box format is maildir. I don't know
  if that will help.
  
  Is another mutt session running somewhere and accessing the same mbox file?
 

No. There is only one session of Mutt.

-- 

Subba Rao
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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GPG public key ID 27FC9217



Re: keep mailbox marked new

2001-04-04 Thread Marco Ahrendt

On Wed, Apr 04, 2001 at 02:38:52PM +0200, Johannes Huettemeister wrote:
 hi,
 
 how do i keep a mailbox (in the pager) marked as new when there are
 still unread mails in that box.
 e.g. when i got 2 new mail in a mailbox (marked N), than enter the
 mailbox and read only 1 mail, than leave the mailbox, the mailbox is
 not marked N anymore, even if i left one mail unread.
 
 does anyone got a hint?

use maildir instead of mailbox. mailbox can't store the N flag.

Marco

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Re: Message while delivering mail

2001-04-04 Thread Frank Derichsweiler

On Wed, Apr 04, 2001 at 09:26:20AM +, Subba Rao wrote:
 On  0, Suresh Ramasubramanian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Subba Rao proclaimed on mutt-users that: 
  
   When I am trying to deliver a slightly modified email from the "sent" folder
   to a different user, I get the following message:
 "Mailbox was externally modified.  Flags may be wrong."
   Why am I getting these messages? My mail box format is maildir. I don't know
   if that will help.
   
   Is another mutt session running somewhere and accessing the same mbox file?
  
 
 No. There is only one session of Mutt.
 
But I assume that you store a copy of a sent message in that sent
folder, therefore during the sending of the message the copy is put
into the sent folder. Now mutt detects that this folder is modified,
because that message is not stored in the new sub-dir, as in the case
of "normal" maildir delivery but in the cur folder. 
I get the same warnig

HTH
Frank




Re: keep mailbox marked new

2001-04-04 Thread darren chamberlain

Marco Ahrendt ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said something to this effect on 04/04/2001:
 On Wed, Apr 04, 2001 at 02:38:52PM +0200, Johannes Huettemeister wrote:
  hi,
  
  how do i keep a mailbox (in the pager) marked as new when there are
  still unread mails in that box.
  e.g. when i got 2 new mail in a mailbox (marked N), than enter the
  mailbox and read only 1 mail, than leave the mailbox, the mailbox is
  not marked N anymore, even if i left one mail unread.
  
  does anyone got a hint?
 
 use maildir instead of mailbox. mailbox can't store the N flag.

Set mark_old=no. I use mbox, and this works just fine.

  set mark_old=yes

  Name: mark_old
  Type: boolean
  Default: yes

  Controls whether or not Mutt makes the distinction between new
  messages and old unread messages.  By default, Mutt will mark new
  messages as old if you exit a mailbox without reading them.  The
  next time you start Mutt, the messages will show up with an "O"
  next to them in the index menu, indicating that they are old.  In
  order to make Mutt treat all unread messages as new only, you can
  unset this variable.

(darren)

-- 
For every problem, there is a solution that is simple, elegant, logical,
and wrong.



Re: keep mailbox marked new

2001-04-04 Thread Johannes Huettemeister

On Wed Apr 04, 2001 at 04:5129PM +0200, Marco Ahrendt wrote:
 On Wed, Apr 04, 2001 at 02:38:52PM +0200, Johannes Huettemeister wrote:
  hi,
  
  how do i keep a mailbox (in the pager) marked as new when there are
  still unread mails in that box.
  e.g. when i got 2 new mail in a mailbox (marked N), than enter the
  mailbox and read only 1 mail, than leave the mailbox, the mailbox is
  not marked N anymore, even if i left one mail unread.
  
  does anyone got a hint?
 
 use maildir instead of mailbox. mailbox can't store the N flag.
 

Hi marco,

does that make sense when filtering mails with procmail to nearly 10
mailboxes?



Re: Maildir sorting

2001-04-04 Thread David Ellement

On 010404, at 08:31:27, Mike E wrote
 * Johannes Huettemeister ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
  On Wed Apr 04, 2001 at 04:5129PM +0200, Marco Ahrendt wrote:
   
   use maildir instead of mailbox. mailbox can't store the N flag.
  
  does that make sense when filtering mails with procmail to nearly 10
  mailboxes?
 
 Yeah, how exactly are you supposed to filter mail into seperate
 mailboxes when using Maildir?

Procmail currently provide support for maildir.  Beginning about
v3.11, there was a patch that added support for maildir.  Before
that, there was a small utility (by David DeSimone) that provided
support; you might a reference to it in old (1998 or earlier) mutt
mailing list archives.

If I recall correctly, you need to add a trailing '/' to the mailbox
name.

-- 
David Ellement



Mutt NOT deleting /tmp consistently

2001-04-04 Thread Duke Normandin

What could be some of the reasons why Mutt would NOT be deleting its
temporary files in the muttrc-defined /tmp directory? Permissions?? Tia..
-- 
-duke

Calgary, Alberta, Canada




Re: Maildir sorting

2001-04-04 Thread Johannes Huettemeister

hi 

On Wed Apr 04, 2001 at 08:4853AM -0700, David Ellement wrote:
   does that make sense when filtering mails with procmail to nearly 10
   mailboxes?
  
  Yeah, how exactly are you supposed to filter mail into seperate
  mailboxes when using Maildir?
 
 Procmail currently provide support for maildir.  Beginning about
 v3.11, there was a patch that added support for maildir.  Before
 that, there was a small utility (by David DeSimone) that provided
 support; you might a reference to it in old (1998 or earlier) mutt
 mailing list archives.
 
 If I recall correctly, you need to add a trailing '/' to the mailbox
 name.

you do! everything is quite fine now. only funny thing: right
after leaving a mailbox with an unread mail, the mailbox is not
marked new ("N"), but e.g. when i enter another mailbox and then
return it is marked as new :-) 
so thanx for the help. I just need a tool to convert a mbox to a
Maildir or is there a another way (antitrust) ...

greetz jo




Re: Maildir sorting

2001-04-04 Thread Charles Cazabon

Johannes Huettemeister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 so thanx for the help. I just need a tool to convert a mbox to a
 Maildir or is there a another way (antitrust) ...

There are many; one is at http://em.ca/~bruceg/mbox2maildir .

Charles
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Re: keep mailbox marked new

2001-04-04 Thread Marco Ahrendt

On Wed, Apr 04, 2001 at 05:10:44PM +0200, Johannes Huettemeister wrote:
 
 does that make sense when filtering mails with procmail to nearly 10
 mailboxes?

yes of course. i have about 30 maildirs which procmails filters in. its
no problem. the mark-old=no boolean doesn't affect what you need. if you
leave the mbox and go into another, the mbox isn't marked N. only the
mail is still marked N. i thought you wanted to have the N on the box,
right? if yes, use maildir. its much better. (locking etc)

marco


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saving hooks for archives

2001-04-04 Thread Erika Pacholleck

I know it is possible and the solution is easy, but I
just can't get that to work (shame on me). Whatever I
try, I get either too few arguments or just a message,
error in line xx. I read the docs and the archives and
Sure I will bang my head against the wall afterwards,
but until then I appreciate your help.

Situation:
Incomming mail is /var/mail/me, I use mbox format.
Mutts list is subscribed, with the pattern mutt-users.
Mail archives are for example kept in
- ~/Mail/archive/mutt.users
- ~/Mail/archive/other.all
I read my mail, tag some for deletion and some for saving.
When saving I have to override the proposal (the from
address) with my archive file.

Question:
How do I have to define the save-hooks so that
- mutt mails go automatically to mutts archive file
- other mails go automatically to others archive file

Thank you.
-- 
Erika



Re: syntax highlighting in pager - browse mail fas

2001-04-04 Thread Erika Pacholleck

( Apr-04-2001 ) Thomas Duterme --:
 This was just my gut feeling for how to speed through mail
 in the pager.  Anyone have any other clever ways?  I'd love
 to hear how others browse through high quantities of mail.

I use colors to support me in quick-reading like this:

1. grouping mail
I splitted my mails into several groups of same level and/or
importance first, example: all mailinglists from the same address
except the security list which is an extra group with all other
security lists.

2. Pager header lines
Then I decided which header lines I wanted to see, in my case I
have only To and Subject because my status line contains From
And I defined the order of those to be To and then Subject (The
date is better seen in the index.)

3. Color choice
Now I made myself a couple of eye-friendly color combinations to
be used for all those groups.

4. in my muttrc it finally looks like this:
set pager format="%Z:%C/%m %a"# status line of pager
hdr_order To: Subject:# header order in pager
# To: patterns that influence the color of the first line
color header black green "mutt-users" # black on green this list
color header white black "pacholleck" # white on black personal
color header white red "security" # white on red security lists

You could do the same with Subject: lines, or use the from as a
third line if your attention needs to catch certain people.

I only use the pager to browse through my mail starting with the
first one and only look onto the first two lines, decide by color
first, then fly over the subject line - this is done within just
a few seconds. Whenever there is for instance a personal mail
color changes automatically to white on black which will get my
attention cause it is the only black one.

Just a suggestion.
-- 
Erika



Re: Making mutt see folders

2001-04-04 Thread Gary Jones

On 4 Apr 2001, I wrote:

 all mails from this list will go into ~/Mail/list-mutt. But 
 how /exactly/ am I supposed to persuade Mutt to look at these, tell 
 me there is new mail in them, and so on? I thought I wanted
 'mailboxes' in the .muttrc but that doesn't seem to work.

Of course that could be just 'cos I'm stoopid. Its sorted, exactly as 
above.

-- 
Gary
Ghastly .sigs, have they no ending?




Back-Button

2001-04-04 Thread Stefan Schwandter

Is there a button that takes you back to the last mail you just viewed ?
If i browse through new mails with the tab i sometimes want to go back
to the previous message because i pressed tab too soon...

regards, Stefan



Re: set pgp_encryptself: unknown variable

2001-04-04 Thread Jim Lambert

Rod Pike muttered:
 Why do I get an error when I try to "set pgp_encryptself" in my muttrc?  

I don't think pgp_encryptself is a valid muttrc variable.

I think, you're looking to put something like 'encrypt-to user-id'
in your gpg options file:

Here's the portion of the gpg man page that talks about 'encrypt-to'

--encrypt-to name
   Same as --recipient but this one is  intended  for
   in  the options file and may be used together with
   an own user-id  as  an  "encrypt-to-self".   These
   keys are only used when there are other recipients
   given either by use of --recipient or by the asked
   user  id. No trust checking is performed for these
   user ids and even disabled keys can be used.


I hope this helps.

-Jim

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 PGP signature


Re: vim procmail recipe

2001-04-04 Thread iain truskett

* Joshua Haberman ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [20010404 02:36]:
[...]
 But then I get both in my inbox. Ideally, I'd like to have the one
 that arrived via the mailing list to go in the mailing list's folder,
 and the one delivered directly to me to go in my spoolfile.

:0:
* ^Delivered-To: mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]
vim


That will trap any to the list. Anything to the list *and* yourself will
appear in 'vim' if it came from the list server, or your inbox if it
didn't.

It works for me =)

-- 
iain.




Re: set pgp_encryptself: unknown variable

2001-04-04 Thread David

Rod Pike wrote:
 Why do I get an error when I try to "set pgp_encryptself" in my muttrc?  

I'm pretty sure thats because there is no pgp_encryptself option

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subscribe

2001-04-04 Thread pogmahon

How do i unsubscribe from mutt-users?.

cant find the option on the website at all

Thanks  G.Grundill




Mutt Generating BAD Signatures with GPG

2001-04-04 Thread Adam Sherman

The attached message is one that I pulled raw out of my Sent folder,
it hasn't gone through any mail systems.

Yet I can't verify it.

Any thoughts?

Thanks,

A.

P.S. My key is attached as well.

-- 
Adam Sherman
President  Technology Architect
Tritus CGI
+1 (613) 255-5164

 Signed Message
 PGP Key 0x79C3FC80.


Re: Mutt with vvv-nntp-patch

2001-04-04 Thread Jan-Hendrik Palic

On Mon, Apr 02, 2001 at 11:02:27AM +0300, Andrej N. Gritsenko wrote:
Hi Andrej

news articles are posted by inews not MTA. Check "inews" variable in
your muttrc and whether inews or program like one exists on your machine.

Hi Andrej

I see, I need, an other Program to post news. I it possible to use inews
with my leafnode?

TIA
Jan
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Re: set pgp_encryptself: unknown variable

2001-04-04 Thread rex

On Tue, Apr 03, 2001 at 11:46:09PM +0200, Rod Pike wrote:
 
 I'm using version 1.2.5i of Mutt.
 
 Why do I get an error when I try to "set pgp_encryptself" in my muttrc?  

It's not a valid .muttrc setting. What you need is:

source "/usr/local/src/mutt-1.2.5/contrib/pgp6.rc"
in your .muttrc

Aadjust path and version of pgp to suit, e.g., 
source "/usr/local/doc/mutt/samples/pgp2.rc"

The default setting in pgp6.rc is to encrypt to yourself (see below)

# create a pgp/mime encrypted attachment
set pgp_encrypt_only_command="pgp6 +compatible  +verbose=0 +encrypttoself +batchmode 
-aeft %r  %f"

But it is NOT the default in pgp2.rc

Be aware that ANYONE can see that the message is encrypted to you.
This is a security risk because it's easy to forget to unset the
"+encrypttoself" when sending a message intended to be anonymous.

HTH,

-rex



Re: syntax highlighting in pager - browse mail fas

2001-04-04 Thread Thomas Duterme

Thank you everyone who responded to this.  

Mutt is really great.  I switched to a Linux desktop last
year and used Netscape as the default for a long time.  I
hated it.  It was really ugly and mail was no fun.

Now, through the help of this list, customizing Mutt has
made mail a real joy again.  (Plus I can easily go through
hundreds of emails a day!)

-Thomas

Sometime near Wed, Apr 04, 2001 at 07:35:29PM +0200, Erika Pacholleck wrote:
 ( Apr-04-2001 ) Thomas Duterme --:
  This was just my gut feeling for how to speed through mail
  in the pager.  Anyone have any other clever ways?  I'd love
  to hear how others browse through high quantities of mail.
 
 I use colors to support me in quick-reading like this:
 
 1. grouping mail
 I splitted my mails into several groups of same level and/or
 importance first, example: all mailinglists from the same address
 except the security list which is an extra group with all other
 security lists.
 
 2. Pager header lines
 Then I decided which header lines I wanted to see, in my case I
 have only To and Subject because my status line contains From
 And I defined the order of those to be To and then Subject (The
 date is better seen in the index.)
 
 3. Color choice
 Now I made myself a couple of eye-friendly color combinations to
 be used for all those groups.
 
 4. in my muttrc it finally looks like this:
 set pager format="%Z:%C/%m %a"# status line of pager
 hdr_order To: Subject:# header order in pager
 # To: patterns that influence the color of the first line
 color header black green "mutt-users" # black on green this list
 color header white black "pacholleck" # white on black personal
 color header white red "security" # white on red security lists
 
 You could do the same with Subject: lines, or use the from as a
 third line if your attention needs to catch certain people.
 
 I only use the pager to browse through my mail starting with the
 first one and only look onto the first two lines, decide by color
 first, then fly over the subject line - this is done within just
 a few seconds. Whenever there is for instance a personal mail
 color changes automatically to white on black which will get my
 attention cause it is the only black one.
 
 Just a suggestion.
 -- 
 Erika
 



why is mutt not acknowedlging all my folders?

2001-04-04 Thread Thomas Duterme

OK,

So I use 'c' all the time to go through all of my mailboxes
and find out which box has new mail.

A couple of questions.

It appears Mutt is only acknowledging some of my mail
folders (all in maildir format in the same folder base) when
they have new mail.

I've currently got about 7 different mailing lists but mutt
only seems to pick three of these.  It also cycles them in a
specific order:

Redhat - Bind - Mutt  (each time)

But it never gets to the others (Python, Qmail ,etc)

Q1: How do I control which folders will show up when I hit c
(assuming the folder has new mail)?

Q2: How do I control the order of what comes up first?


Thanks,
-Thomas