NNTP patch questions
Hey all. You've all been great with recent learning curve issues while I learn about mutt, so thanks. In a previous response, someone mentioned nntp patches for mutt, and a pointer to the link page. I looked, and there are actually 4 patches. I haven't had a chance to look at them all in detail, but I would like to hear from anyone who uses any one of them. Which patch do you use? is there something you would like to be added to the patch you use? How easy was it to integrate to your pre-patch mutt usage? Can you save a mail message to a mailbox? (that one is important - I use my imap server to store news messages I know I will need later) Here are the patches I found: Karol Byrd - don't know the last update timestamp or version. Brandon Long- 0.95.1 is the last version, looks like some good info is readily available. Orjan Stromberg - looks like nntp2 (?) Seems he makes it easy by providing a pre-patched dist. of the 1.2.5 code. Vsevolod Volkov - Not real sure of the patch version (1.3.?) but he makes it easy by putting it into a 'stable' directory. Looks like a 2/21/01 update. So there it is. I appreciate any feedback you can provide. -- Louis LeBlanc Fully Funded Hobbyist, KeySlapper Extrordinaire :) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://acadia.ne.mediaone.netԿԬ
Re: Word Wrap
Larry Hignight ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said something to this effect on 05/18/2001: I'm not sure how I missed this in the Mutt manual and some online tutorials, but I have some people on another mail list complaining that my email isn't wrapping properly. I am using vim as my editor. Which needs to be configured to setup wrapping at 72? Is it in one of the vim files or the .muttrc? set fo=trcq fo == formatoptions set ft=mail ft == filetype set tw=72 tw == textwidth use :help to describe these. Setting ft=mail will also (I believe) set fo to the right options. (darren) -- Any technology indistinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced.
fetching mail in mutt and sendmail
Hello, I would like to disable the sendmail daemon yet still be able to fetch mail using fetchmail, calling sendmail to deliver the mail only when fetchmail needs it. Currently, if the sendmail daemon is disabled, I can send mail, but when trying to fetch i with fetchmail, it fails because sendmail is not running in the background. Is there anyway i can use sendmail without it running constantly on port 25? I do not run any external services and am the only user. Alternatively, can I make the pop3 function in mutt work with procmail? Thank you very much Joss -- http://www.josswinn.org
Re: fetching mail in mutt and sendmail
On Mon, 21 May 2001, Joss Winn wrote: I would like to disable the sendmail daemon yet still be able to fetch mail using fetchmail, calling sendmail to deliver the mail only when fetchmail needs it. Currently, if the sendmail daemon is disabled, I can send mail, but when trying to fetch i with fetchmail, it fails because sendmail is not running in the background. Is there anyway i can use sendmail without it running constantly on port 25? I do not run any external services and am the only user. Alternatively, can I make the pop3 function in mutt work with procmail? just curious, why deliver the mail via sendmail? you can just call procmail directly from fetchmail, and skip sendmail alltogether... unless there's a reason I've missed here? just put: mda /usr/bin/procmail -d %T in your fetchmailrc, and turn off sendmail :) HTH, Dan -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux MVP Brainbench.com
Re: fetching mail in mutt and sendmail
Joss Winn [mutt-users] 21/05/01 22:27 +0900: I would like to disable the sendmail daemon yet still be able to fetch mail using fetchmail, calling sendmail to deliver the mail only when fetchmail needs it. Currently, if the sendmail daemon is disabled, I can send mail, but when trying to fetch i with RTFM the mda flag in fetchmail - you can use procmail, maildrop, deliver (or whatever) for local delivery. fetchmail, it fails because sendmail is not running in the background. Is there anyway i can use sendmail without it running constantly on port 25? I do not run any external services and am You can have it listen only on 127.0.0.1 (use the daemon port options in sendmail.mc) the only user. Alternatively, can I make the pop3 function in mutt work with procmail? defaults forcecr poll pop.server with proto pop3 user foo with pass bar mda /usr/bin/procmail -d %T fetchall -- Suresh Ramasubramanian + Wallopus Malletus Indigenensis mallet @ cluestick.org + Lumber Cartel of India, tinlcI EMail Sturmbannfuhrer, Lower Middle Class Unix Sysadmin
Wishlist: mouse scroll similar to w3m
I use mutt. I love it. It's easily the best-of-breed as far as mailers go, gui or not. I do most of my work in terminal windows, or at the console, so I tend to use a text-based browser quite a bit (in addition to the fact that it's REALLY fast to browse with no graphical overhead). I'd used lynx, then found links, which I'd been using for quite some time, until this weekend I tired out w3m. I was floored. Nice mouse support that doesn't interfere with keyboard commands, and support for the scroll wheel! That's a heckuva lot more than most console apps, and it's VERY impressive. I read quite a lot of long mail messages through mutt - it would be nice if it had this kind of functionality - but I'm unsure if it's even feasible to suggest implementing it. I'm no programmer (outside a spot of perl and a bit of php now and again), so comments/flames/etc... would be appreciated =) -b3 -- Brent Bourgoine[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Geek Code Version: 3.1 G d- s+:+ a- C$ UBL+++$ P+$+++ L++$ E$++ W+++$ N++ o? K w--- O M- !V PS+++ PE Y+ PGP++ t+ 5++ X+ R(++) tv(+) b+++ DI D++ G e h r++(+++) y?(+++) --
Re: removing the attachments from the mailboxes
On Mon, May 21, 2001 at 08:19:56PM +0200, Laurent Mirguet wrote: Eudora removes the attachments from the mailboxes, which is nice to keep small mailboxes. Is it possible to do the same with mutt ? Oh, and where are the attachments kept? Mutt doesn't really suffer from the size of the individual mails. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]innominate AG System EngineerDon't be afraid of what you see - Diplom-Informatiker be afraid of what you don't see! tel: +49.(0)7000.POSTFIX fax: +49.(0)30.308806-698
Re: Word Wrap
My .vimrc has just this line for this problem: set textwidth=72 On 05/21/01, 08:04:36AM -0400, darren chamberlain wrote: Larry Hignight ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said something to this effect on 05/18/2001: I'm not sure how I missed this in the Mutt manual and some online tutorials, but I have some people on another mail list complaining that my email isn't wrapping properly. I am using vim as my editor. Which needs to be configured to setup wrapping at 72? Is it in one of the vim files or the .muttrc? set fo=trcq fo == formatoptions set ft=mail ft == filetype set tw=72 tw == textwidth use :help to describe these. Setting ft=mail will also (I believe) set fo to the right options. (darren) -- Any technology indistinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced. -- John P. Verel Norwalk, CT
Re: removing the attachments from the mailboxes
On Mon, May 21, 2001 at 09:54:14PM +0200, Ralf Hildebrandt ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said: On Mon, May 21, 2001 at 08:19:56PM +0200, Laurent Mirguet wrote: Eudora removes the attachments from the mailboxes, which is nice to keep small mailboxes. Is it possible to do the same with mutt ? Yes. Use v in the index to view the attachments menu for that message, and then d to delete individual attachments. (Using the keybindings I have anyway...I assume they're the default ones.) Oh, and where are the attachments kept? Mutt doesn't really suffer from the size of the individual mails. In the mailbox. They aren't stored as separate files unless you explicitly save them elsewhere. -- Jim Toth [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: NNTP patch questions
Hi... On Mon, May 21, 2001 at 11:28:29AM +0200, Louis-David Mitterrand wrote: Vsevolod Volkov - Not real sure of the patch version (1.3.?) but he makes it easy by putting it into a 'stable' directory. Looks like a 2/21/01 update. Yes, it works fine.. I have mutt 1.3.15 and the nntp-patch from vvv is great, but... how can I post news to newsgroups? I'm using exim on my client and on my server is leafnode installed? I installed inews, but I dont't know to set the right settings in the mutt. May anyone help me? Cheers Jan -- One time, you all will be emulated by linux! Jan- Hendrik Palic Url:http://www.billgotchy.de; E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP signature
mail spool permissions
Hi, I recently noticed that our mail spool directory was modded word writeable (with the sticky bit). To me this seemed like a bit of a bad idea, so I asked around if there was a reason for this, and no one could think of one. So I changed it to 755 to see what would break. mutt seems to be what broke. A few of our users (3 complained before we switched it back) got errors in mutt saying that their mailboxes were read only and they could not delete anything. However, for myself and others, mutt had no problem with write access to the mail files. Each mailbox is modded 600 and owned by the appropriate user. The mail spool directory is nfs mounted from a central server. Anyone have any idea why mutt would do this with some users and not others? What does mutt like the permissions on the mail spool to be? -- Chad Cunningham [EMAIL PROTECTED] Well, once again my friend, we find that science is a two-headed beast. One head is nice, it gives us aspirin and other modern conveniences,...but the other head of science is bad! Oh beware the other head of science, Arthur, it bites!
saving to folder based on current folder?
I have a mail folder of pending tasks and an archive of completed tasks. I'm trying to make mutt save to =C by default, when I'm in =P. folder-hook, intended to set per-folder options, doesn't work because (AFAIK) there isn't a variable to set to specify the save to folder. save-hook doesn't work, as there isn't a regexp (AFAIK) that will match on what folder you are in. Any ideas? Someone else must have needed this before, no? Thanks! -- Jeremy M. Dolan [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP: 1024D/DC433DEE 494C 7A6E 19FB 026A 1F52 E0D5 5C5D 6228 DC43 3DEE
mbox hooks don't fire if $mbox=$spool
I've set $mbox to the same as $spoolfile, since I don't like a seperate mbox in my ~. I've noticed this prevents mbox-hooks from firing, for the messages that I *do* want moved. -- Jeremy M. Dolan [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP: 1024D/DC433DEE 494C 7A6E 19FB 026A 1F52 E0D5 5C5D 6228 DC43 3DEE
Re: Word Wrap
John P. Verel [mutt-users] Mon, May 21, 2001 at 04:22:09PM -0400:
My .vimrc has just this line for this problem:
set textwidth=72
I use
set editor=/usr/bin/vim +':set textwidth=77' +':set wrap' +\`awk'/^$/ {print i+2;
exit} {i++}' %s\` %s
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Suresh Ramasubramanian + Wallopus Malletus Indigenensis
mallet @ cluestick.org + Lumber Cartel of India, tinlcI
EMail Sturmbannfuhrer, Lower Middle Class Unix Sysadmin
Re: Word Wrap
As a variation on the vim invocation, I use this:
set editor =vim +/^$
This puts me at the first blank line of the composition screen.
John
On 05/22/01, 07:23:43AM +0530, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote:
I use
set editor=/usr/bin/vim +':set textwidth=77' +':set wrap' +\`awk'/^$/ {print i+2;
exit} {i++}' %s\` %s
--
Suresh Ramasubramanian + Wallopus Malletus Indigenensis
mallet @ cluestick.org + Lumber Cartel of India, tinlcI
EMail Sturmbannfuhrer, Lower Middle Class Unix Sysadmin
--
John P. Verel
Norwalk, CT
Re: mail spool permissions
On 010521, at 16:37:20, Chad Cunningham wrote Anyone have any idea why mutt would do this with some users and not others? What does mutt like the permissions on the mail spool to be? If mutt has been compiled +USE_DOTLOCK, it needs to create a lock file in the spool directory. If mutt_dotlock is not setgid, then only those users with write permission to the mail spool directory will be able to alter their mailbox. See the mutt FAQ. -- David Ellement
Re: fetching mail in mutt and sendmail
On Tue, May 22, 2001 at 02:02:35AM -, mutt-users-digest wrote: -- Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 22:27:10 +0900 From: Joss Winn [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: fetching mail in mutt and sendmail Hello, I would like to disable the sendmail daemon yet still be able to fetch mail using fetchmail, calling sendmail to deliver the mail only when fetchmail needs it. Currently, if the sendmail daemon is disabled, I can send mail, but when trying to fetch i with fetchmail, it fails because sendmail is not running in the background. Is there anyway i can use sendmail without it running constantly on port 25? I do not run any external services and am the only user. Alternatively, can I make the pop3 function in mutt work with procmail? Thank you very much Joss - -- http://www.josswinn.org -- Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 09:33:22 -0400 (EDT) From: Dan Boger [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: fetching mail in mutt and sendmail On Mon, 21 May 2001, Joss Winn wrote: I would like to disable the sendmail daemon yet still be able to fetch mail using fetchmail, calling sendmail to deliver the mail only when fetchmail needs it. Currently, if the sendmail daemon is disabled, I can send mail, but when trying to fetch i with fetchmail, it fails because sendmail is not running in the background. Is there anyway i can use sendmail without it running constantly on port 25? I do not run any external services and am the only user. Alternatively, can I make the pop3 function in mutt work with procmail? just curious, why deliver the mail via sendmail? you can just call procmail directly from fetchmail, and skip sendmail alltogether... unless there's a reason I've missed here? just put: mda /usr/bin/procmail -d %T in your fetchmailrc, and turn off sendmail :) HTH, Dan - -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux MVP Brainbench.com -- Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 18:53:46 +0530 From: Suresh Ramasubramanian [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: fetching mail in mutt and sendmail Joss Winn [mutt-users] 21/05/01 22:27 +0900: I would like to disable the sendmail daemon yet still be able to fetch mail using fetchmail, calling sendmail to deliver the mail only when fetchmail needs it. Currently, if the sendmail daemon is disabled, I can send mail, but when trying to fetch i with RTFM the mda flag in fetchmail - you can use procmail, maildrop, deliver (or whatever) for local delivery. fetchmail, it fails because sendmail is not running in the background. Is there anyway i can use sendmail without it running constantly on port 25? I do not run any external services and am You can have it listen only on 127.0.0.1 (use the daemon port options in sendmail.mc) the only user. Alternatively, can I make the pop3 function in mutt work with procmail? defaults forcecr poll pop.server with proto pop3 user foo with pass bar mda /usr/bin/procmail -d %T fetchall - -- Suresh Ramasubramanian + Wallopus Malletus Indigenensis mallet @ cluestick.org + Lumber Cartel of India, tinlcI EMail Sturmbannfuhrer, Lower Middle Class Unix Sysadmin -- Dan and Suresh, thanks very much. I was under the impression that I had to have sendmail communicating with fetchmail to get the mail to my inbox. I thought it was a bit of an overkill for such a simple situation. All solved. cheers joss -- http://www.josswinn.org
