Re: s/S index flag and check-traditional-pgp

2002-01-10 Thread Thomas Roessler

On 2002-01-09 18:01:58 -0600, Jeremy Blosser wrote:

Patch worked fine to fix the behaviour I was seeing.  I don't know 
anything about the other reported anomolies, or if 's' should or 
shouldn't become 'S' if the key isn't locally signed... I suspect 
not, since I don't think mutt gets that much info from gpg about 
the valid status.

That's correct.

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Re: deleted mail folder

2002-01-10 Thread Nick Wilson

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* On 10-01-02 at 08:11 
* Jeremy Blosser said

 If you use this kind of thing for trash, keep in mind that it will only
 work for single message deletions and won't have any effect on things like
 delete-thread.  Cedric's patch is really the way to go if you want this
 functionality done correctly.

Hooray! I just installed that patch and it works a treat. I've been
wondering how to solve this little problem.

Cheers

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returning to inbox (..ish)

2002-01-10 Thread Nick Wilson

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Mornin' all
When I hit 'c' and navigate to a mailbox, how do I get back to
/var/spool/mail/nick? It's an awfully painfull task to navigate right up
to the spool again. I usually restart mutt, but this surely isn't right?

Much thanks
- -- 

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Re: returning to inbox (..ish)

2002-01-10 Thread René Clerc

* Nick Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] [10-01-2002 10:04]:

| Mornin' all
| When I hit 'c' and navigate to a mailbox, how do I get back to
| /var/spool/mail/nick? It's an awfully painfull task to navigate right up
| to the spool again. I usually restart mutt, but this surely isn't right?

Use the '!' as shortcut for your spoolfile. So, 'c!enter' should do
the trick!

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Re: returning to inbox (..ish)

2002-01-10 Thread Holger Lillqvist

On Jan 10, Nick Wilson wrote:

 When I hit 'c' and navigate to a mailbox, how do I get back to
 /var/spool/mail/nick? It's an awfully painfull task to navigate right
 up to the spool again. I usually restart mutt, but this surely isn't
 right?

I think you should check the section on folder shortcuts in the manual.

Holger



Re: returning to inbox (..ish)

2002-01-10 Thread Nick Wilson


* On 10-01-02 at 10:36 
* René Clerc said

 Use the '!' as shortcut for your spoolfile. So, 'c!enter' should do
 the trick!

Great. Thanks Rene.

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Re: returning to inbox (..ish)

2002-01-10 Thread Nick Wilson

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* On 10-01-02 at 10:36 
* Holger Lillqvist said

 I think you should check the section on folder shortcuts in the manual.
 
 Holger

Certainly will, Overlooked that one.
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sending mail problem

2002-01-10 Thread Todd Kokoszka

Hi,

I get this failure message when I send mail to some
places. Is this a problem with my Mutt configuration
or something else? If something else, does anyone have
idea what something else causes the problem or where i
can look?

Thanks for any clues or links or anything.

Todd

... while talking to relay1.atg.com.:
 DATA
 550-Sender [EMAIL PROTECTED] verification
failed.
 550 rejected: cannot route to sender
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
554 5.0.0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Service unavailable
... while talking to law.harvard.edu.:
 MAIL From:[EMAIL PROTECTED] SIZE=556
 501 [EMAIL PROTECTED]... Sender domain must
exist
501 5.6.0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Data format error

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Re: sending mail problem

2002-01-10 Thread Ralf Hildebrandt

  550-Sender [EMAIL PROTECTED] verification failed.
  550 rejected: cannot route to sender [EMAIL PROTECTED]

pineau.local is not a valid domain, thus law.harvard.edu rejects the
mail.
Fix your envelope from address to something that's real.

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Re: send-hook ~t and autoedit

2002-01-10 Thread Hanspeter Roth

On Wed, Jan 09, 2002 at 09:46:32PM -0600, Knute wrote:
 
 Don't you have to define a default hook in the config file before you
 call the send-hook so that mutt knows what it needs to look at first?

I have:

set default_hook=~t %s
send-hook . set record=+sent

Is there another default hook?

-Hanpseter



individual index_formats

2002-01-10 Thread Hanspeter Roth

Is it possible to have lines with different index_formats in the
index? I would like to display a different date format for messages
sent within the last 24 hours.
I tried:

folder-hook .  \
  'set index_format=%4C %Z %{%b %d} %-15.15F (%4l) %s'
message-hook '~d 1d' \
  'set index_format=%4C %Z %{ %H:%M} %-15.15F (%4l) %s'

But I had no luck.

-Hanspeter



Re: individual index_formats

2002-01-10 Thread Rob 'Feztaa' Park

Alas! Hanspeter Roth spake thus:
 Is it possible to have lines with different index_formats in the
 index? I would like to display a different date format for messages
 sent within the last 24 hours.

Hey, that's a good idea! Sort of like pine, right?

Unfortunately, I've never heard of anybody doing this. Perhaps it's time
for a patch? :)

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Re: individual index_formats

2002-01-10 Thread Hanspeter Roth

On Thu, Jan 10, 2002 at 03:09:14AM -0700, Rob 'Feztaa' Park wrote:
 Alas! Hanspeter Roth spake thus:
  Is it possible to have lines with different index_formats in the
  index? I would like to display a different date format for messages
  sent within the last 24 hours.
 
 Hey, that's a good idea! Sort of like pine, right?

I couldn't figure out how to delete multiple messages with the same
subject in pine at once. Thus I gave up exploring pine further.

-Hanspeter



Re: returning to inbox (..ish)

2002-01-10 Thread Dave Pearson

On Thu, Jan 10, 2002 at 10:05:34AM +0100, Nick Wilson wrote:

 Mornin' all
 When I hit 'c' and navigate to a mailbox, how do I get back to
 /var/spool/mail/nick? It's an awfully painfull task to navigate right up
 to the spool again. I usually restart mutt, but this surely isn't right?

Take a look at section 4.7 of the mutt manual.

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Re: text_flowed

2002-01-10 Thread Ben Logan

On Wed, Jan 09, 2002 at 11:07:10PM -0600, Kenneth Pronovici wrote:
  what common editors (if any) support format=flowed? i'd be interested in
  setting 'text_flowed', but i'm betting vim doesn't do this correctly by
  default.
  
  anyone have a vim configuration that will do this?
 
 Are you just looking for a way to have vim break lines at some
 particular page width while you're typing?  You can use ':set tw' to
 do that - for instance, :set tw=72' for a 72-column page width.

You also probably want 't' (and probably 'c') in your 'formatoptions'.
Type

:set

to see your current settings.  Mine is 'formatoptions=tcql'.  You
might also find

:help fo-table

useful.

Regards,
Ben

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Re: Saving set of msgs to file

2002-01-10 Thread Maciej Kalisiak

On Tue, Jan 08, 2002 at 08:49:59PM -0500, Shawn D. McPeek wrote:
 You could tag them with 'T~m 3-7 | ~m 10 | ~m 12-16' then a ;s would
 save them all to wherever you wanted, marking them for deletion.  Then, a
 normal sync ($) would delete them.  Of course, you'd want to make sure you
 didn't have any messages tagged when you started else you would end up
 saving them along with the ones you wanted.

It seems to me that the original poster might also find useful the
slightly simpler tagging approach: just manually tag the messages you
want to save ('t' tags the currently highlighted message), and then
apply ';s' and '$'.

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using wildcards in mailboxes

2002-01-10 Thread Maciej Kalisiak

Is it possible to use wildcards in the mailboxes command? I have
procmail spool all my mailing list mail to various folders in
~/mail/lists, and was hoping I could do

  mailboxes ! =lists/*

but unfortunately that doesn't seem to work; only the main spool file
shows up in the list of mailboxes.

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How to insert utf8 characters in mutt?

2002-01-10 Thread Stephan Seitz

Hi!

I'm using mutt 1.3.25i in an utf8-xterm. Within my editor (vim) I can
insert any utf8 characters with ctrl-v u utf8-hexcode.
But how do I such thing within mutt (e.g. the subject)?

Shade and sweet water!

Stephan

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Re: individual index_formats

2002-01-10 Thread Rob 'Feztaa' Park

Alas! Hanspeter Roth spake thus:
 On Thu, Jan 10, 2002 at 03:09:14AM -0700, Rob 'Feztaa' Park wrote:
  Alas! Hanspeter Roth spake thus:
   Is it possible to have lines with different index_formats in the
   index? I would like to display a different date format for messages
   sent within the last 24 hours.
  
  Hey, that's a good idea! Sort of like pine, right?
 
 I couldn't figure out how to delete multiple messages with the same
 subject in pine at once. Thus I gave up exploring pine further.

I know, pine is not very robust, but I'm pretty sure if you configure it
properly, it can display the time the message arrived if it arrived
today, the day of the week it arrived if it arrived less than a week
ago, and the full date otherwise.

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Re: Bold text

2002-01-10 Thread Erika Pacholleck

[08.01.02 13:11 +0100] Nick Wilson -- :
 * Erika Pacholleck [EMAIL PROTECTED] [020108 13:09]:
  is the * the same convention for *bold* as the _ is
  is for _underline_ ?
 
  vote here: [x] yes [ ] no
 I think David mentioned USENET conventions earlier in this post.

He was not sure about that, so I thought maybe someone could
quickly verify. But I will just treat it as true now.
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Re: Bold text

2002-01-10 Thread Erika Pacholleck

[07.01.02 12:35 -0600] David Champion -- :
 You could use enriched text. It's documented in RFC 1563: 
 ftp://ftp.isi.edu/in-notes/rfc1563.txt 
 --- [snipped fine examples ] ---
 
Hey great, thanks for the examples and especially the RFC number
(I never learn how to find the number out quickly - yes, I know
there is a list, but that one is really long :( ).
Good to know, although for shortness of messages I will stick
to simple methods.
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Re: send-hook ~t and autoedit

2002-01-10 Thread Knute

On Thu, 10 Jan 2002, Hanspeter Roth wrote:

 
 On Wed, Jan 09, 2002 at 09:46:32PM -0600, Knute wrote:
  
  Don't you have to define a default hook in the config file before you
  call the send-hook so that mutt knows what it needs to look at first?
 
 I have:
 
 set default_hook=~t %s
 send-hook . set record=+sent
 
 Is there another default hook?
 
 -Hanpseter

Try this:
send-hook . 'set record=+sent'

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You live, You die.  Enjoy the interval!
-- Clarence



Re: using wildcards in mailboxes

2002-01-10 Thread Dan Boger

On Thu, Jan 10, 2002 at 10:01:09AM -0500, Maciej Kalisiak wrote:
 Is it possible to use wildcards in the mailboxes command? I have
 procmail spool all my mailing list mail to various folders in
 ~/mail/lists, and was hoping I could do
 
   mailboxes ! =lists/*
 
 but unfortunately that doesn't seem to work; only the main spool file
 shows up in the list of mailboxes.

try

mailboxes ! `echo /path/to/your/folders/lists/*`

:)

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Re: a little organizational help...

2002-01-10 Thread David T-G

Jeremy, et al --

...and then Jeremy Blosser said...
% 
% On Jan 09, Nick Wilson [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote:
%  'ello.
%  I'm trying to organize the way I deal with my mail. I've got procmail up
%  and running and would like a little advice before sorting all my lists
%  and private mail.
% 
% Well, I use qmail '-' address extensions instead of procmail to sort list
% stuff, and I probably went overboard on the organization, but here it is:

I use the extensions but still use procmail, but I have been looking for
a way to manage things better, including trapping mail that turns out to
be spam after I've signed up at a web site or some such.  I'm quite
interested in digging more into your setup.


...
% The only thing I'm really needing still is a decent way to watch the IN
% boxes for incoming mail.  I'd really like to find a decent console/curses
% biff program, but I haven't seen any.  mutt -y really doesn't seem to cut
% it.

The particular reason for my reply was this.  I still enjoy the elm
newmail program; it works quite nicely for me.  I have it in a wrapper
because it can only take 25 folders on the command line and I have more
than 25 =F.* boxes, but that was easy.


HTH  HAND

:-D
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Something wrong with the list?

2002-01-10 Thread Gerhard Siegesmund

Hello Mutt-Users

There seems to be something wrong with the list today. I didn't get one
mail from the list today although there seem to be several mails posted as I
see on the archiv. Anything wrong with my subscription? Or just a
problem with the web?

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Re: a little organizational help...

2002-01-10 Thread Nick Wilson

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Hi guys, just a quick line to say

Wahoo!

I've got fetchmail working with procmail and am busy configuring.
Many thanks for your efforts opinions and patience :)
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Re: sending mail problem

2002-01-10 Thread Curt Zirzow

* Todd Kokoszka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  501 [EMAIL PROTECTED]... Sender domain must
 exist

Setting envelope_from=yes will fix the problem.


Curt.
-- 
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something.



Re: Something wrong with the list?

2002-01-10 Thread Nick Wilson

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* On 10-01-02 at 16:48 
* Gerhard Siegesmund said

 Hello Mutt-Users
 
 There seems to be something wrong with the list today. I didn't get one
 mail from the list today although there seem to be several mails posted as I
 see on the archiv. Anything wrong with my subscription? Or just a
 problem with the web?

I've been getting mails fine all day.


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envelope ?

2002-01-10 Thread Todd Kokoszka

Hi,

Some people mentioned that I should use the
envelope_from setting to help with mail delivery. It
worked.

What is the envelope_from setting and how is it
different from the From: field? Does anyone know where
I can learn how these function?

Thanks,
Todd

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Re: a little organizational help

2002-01-10 Thread Mark Johnson

I've adapted the recommendations in the Procmail Quick Start for naming
maildirs and sorting into those maildirs with procmail. I use muttrc's
fcc-hook commands to organize my replies into appropriate maildirs, and
have mutt sort by thread. I find this approach provides ready access to all
correspondence related to, eg, a particular client or subject or list. I
use the gbuffy biff to display new message status for each maildir on my
desktop.

All my maildirs are under ~/Mail, and all mail config files (abook, gbuffy,
procmail, etc) under ~/Mailstuff (with softlinks from ~).

Finally, to make the transition to mutt easier, I set up softlinks from my 
old mozilla mboxes under ~/MAIL so I can read 'em conveniently from mutt. 

HTH.
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new user

2002-01-10 Thread Daniel Rachel Bomsta

I am a relatively new user to mutt ( about 2 months ).  I have a recent 
problem with mutt-1.3.24.  When I compose a message I get the To: prompt and 
enter the address, then I get the Subject: prompt and can enter a subject, I 
hit enter and mutt is frozen.  I must kill it and I am still not able to 
compose a message.

Any ideas?

Thanks,
Dan



fcc by recipient name to a subdir

2002-01-10 Thread Michael Maibaum

Hi all,

Stimulated by recent threads on organisation, I want to save the fcc
copies of my outgoing mail to a subdir. At present they are saved by
name to the top level of my Mail dir and to please my slightly
obbsessive sense of tidieness I would like to move them to a subdir
called outbox/

this seems easy enough to do if you are saving all the mail to a single
mailbox, but is there a way to do it if you are saving to recipeint
named mailboxes?

many thanks

Michael
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Re: new user

2002-01-10 Thread Nick Wilson

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* On 10-01-02 at 17:30 
* Daniel  Rachel Bomsta said

 I am a relatively new user to mutt ( about 2 months ).  I have a recent 
 problem with mutt-1.3.24.  When I compose a message I get the To: prompt and 
 enter the address, then I get the Subject: prompt and can enter a subject, I 
 hit enter and mutt is frozen.  I must kill it and I am still not able to 
 compose a message.
 
 Any ideas?


Yeah, mutt is probably trying to invoke/run something that is not doing
what it should. With me it was the editor being set to 'vim' not 'vi'
(RedHat weirdity) and this fella knute's mutt was looking for a
signiture that didn't exist.

Time to sift through that .muttrc!
- -- 

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Re: new user

2002-01-10 Thread Knute

On Thu, 10 Jan 2002, Nick Wilson wrote:

 
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 * On 10-01-02 at 17:30 
 * Daniel  Rachel Bomsta said
 
  I am a relatively new user to mutt ( about 2 months ).  I have a recent 
  problem with mutt-1.3.24.  When I compose a message I get the To: prompt and 
  enter the address, then I get the Subject: prompt and can enter a subject, I 
  hit enter and mutt is frozen.  I must kill it and I am still not able to 
  compose a message.
  
  Any ideas?
 
 
 Yeah, mutt is probably trying to invoke/run something that is not doing
 what it should. With me it was the editor being set to 'vim' not 'vi'
 (RedHat weirdity) and this fella knute's mutt was looking for a
 signiture that didn't exist.
 
 Time to sift through that .muttrc!
 - -- 

The signature thing wasn't in the muttrc though.  I'm still not sure
where it is located.  And I've checked most of the files in my home
directory.

And I know that it isn't a global setting because I've reloaded / twice
since it was set that way.

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You live, You die.  Enjoy the interval!
-- Clarence



Re: envelope ?

2002-01-10 Thread Maciej Kalisiak

On Thu, Jan 10, 2002 at 11:01:29AM -0500, Todd Kokoszka wrote:
 What is the envelope_from setting and how is it
 different from the From: field? Does anyone know where
 I can learn how these function?

It is documented in the manual (section 6.3.43 in the manual for Mutt 1.3.25).

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Re: new user

2002-01-10 Thread Nick Wilson

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* On 10-01-02 at 17:58 
* Knute said

 The signature thing wasn't in the muttrc though.  I'm still not sure
 where it is located.  And I've checked most of the files in my home
 directory.
 
 And I know that it isn't a global setting because I've reloaded / twice
 since it was set that way.
 

Weird, Not sure about that.
It's almost as weird that we must have both been posting at the same
time on this thread :)
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Re: envelope ?

2002-01-10 Thread Todd Kokoszka


  What is the envelope_from setting and how is it
  different from the From: field? Does anyone know
 where
  I can learn how these function?
 
 It is documented in the manual (section 6.3.43 in
 the manual for Mutt 1.3.25).

I found the entry for envelope_from, but that doesn't
tell me what an envelope is or does and how that's
different from a From: field. The only thing I know is
that when I include envelope_from, more of mail gets
to where I want it to. I'm trying to figure out what
an envelope is and why it exists. Then I can figure
out what else I should know about mutt and mail.

Thanks,
Todd

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Re: new user - editor setup problem?

2002-01-10 Thread Sven Guckes

* Daniel  Rachel Bomsta [EMAIL PROTECTED] [020110 16:22]:
 I am a relatively new user to mutt ( about 2 months ).
 I have a recent problem with mutt-1.3.24.  When I
 compose a message I get the To: prompt and enter the
 address, then I get the Subject: prompt and can enter
 a subject, I hit enter and mutt is frozen.  I must
 kill it and I am still not able to compose a message.
 Any ideas?

Mutt calls the editor after that.
Which one did you set?  please check:

  echo $EDITOR
  echo $VISUAL
  grep -i editor /etc/Muttrc
  grep -i editor $HOME/.muttrc

now, if it is vim and the DISPLAY
variable is set then it migh try to
contact that DISPLAY - unto the timeout.

Try this then:
$ unset DISPLAY; mutt
Does it work now?

Next try: Chose a braindead editor:
$ EDITOR=pico; mutt

Better?

Sven

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Re: envelope ?

2002-01-10 Thread Knute

On Thu, 10 Jan 2002, Todd Kokoszka wrote:

 
 
   What is the envelope_from setting and how is it
   different from the From: field? Does anyone know
  where
   I can learn how these function?
  
  It is documented in the manual (section 6.3.43 in
  the manual for Mutt 1.3.25).
 
 I found the entry for envelope_from, but that doesn't
 tell me what an envelope is or does and how that's
 different from a From: field. The only thing I know is
 that when I include envelope_from, more of mail gets
 to where I want it to. I'm trying to figure out what
 an envelope is and why it exists. Then I can figure
 out what else I should know about mutt and mail.
 

My understanding may be flawed, but it's the same as using an envelope
to mail a letter via snail mail.
It's the information that is needed to get it from your mail client to it's
reciepient.

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-- Clarence



Re: new user

2002-01-10 Thread Knute

On Thu, 10 Jan 2002, Nick Wilson wrote:

 * On 10-01-02 at 17:58 
 * Knute said
 
  The signature thing wasn't in the muttrc though.  I'm still not sure
  where it is located.  And I've checked most of the files in my home
  directory.
  
  And I know that it isn't a global setting because I've reloaded / twice
  since it was set that way.
  
 
 Weird, Not sure about that.
 It's almost as weird that we must have both been posting at the same
 time on this thread :)
 - -- 
 
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That it is! :)

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Re: Display index in mutt

2002-01-10 Thread budsz

On Wed, Jan 09, 2002 at 04:35:12PM +0100, Hanspeter Roth wrote:
On Wed, Jan 09, 2002 at 10:26:51PM +0700, budsz wrote:
Have you tried:

- set sort=threads

- set sort=reverse-threads

OK...thankx

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Re: envelope ?

2002-01-10 Thread Curt Zirzow

* Todd Kokoszka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 I found the entry for envelope_from, but that doesn't
 tell me what an envelope is or does and how that's
 different from a From: field. The only thing I know is
 that when I include envelope_from, more of mail gets
 to where I want it to. I'm trying to figure out what
 an envelope is and why it exists. Then I can figure
 out what else I should know about mutt and mail.
 

I would suggest reading up on rfc2821 section 3.
http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc2821.html

Your envelope is established by sending: 
MAIL FROM: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RCPT TO: [EMAIL PROTECTED]



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Re: Possible to get the mail fetched by getmail filtered?

2002-01-10 Thread Charles Jie

Thanks, Roman.

1. My getmail.log gives:

 Aborting... (command /usr/bin/maildrop ~/.maildroprc returned 19200
 (maildrop: signal 0x06))

 $getmail gives sth similar:

  msg #1 : len 998 ... retrievedfailed to process message list for
  charlesjie (command /usr/bin/maildrop ~/.maildroprc returned 19200
  (maildrop: signal 0x06))
  Resetting connection and aborting...

2. My maildrop now looks OK and saves message to given mbox. The problem
   is that getmail doesn't remove message in POP server. I'll get a copy
   of the same message each time I run getmail.

3. getmail also fails to fetch mail if the destination mbox doesn't
   exist. Thus I can not let mutt remove the empty mbox file when all
   messages are deleted.

4. My getmail is 2.1.9, while maildrop is 1.3.4.
   The broken getmail rpm from Mandrake 8.1 is 2.1.5. I'll send it to
   you in another mail. It misses ALL the python modules.

5. About getmail documentation, I agree the author did work hard and
   write much. I just happen to need sth not sufficiently covered.
   To have a filter, I can only find an instance throughtout the
   mentioned documents -

   postmaster = |/path/to/command

   that's all. No syntax description about such case.

   When I try to add arguments to the command, I've got to try out:

   postmaster = |/usr/bin/procmail -Y -t  (wrong)
   postmaster = |/usr/bin/procmail -Y -t (correct)

6. Futher, getmail doesn't mention the restriction of point 3.

7. It takes no hard work to prepare man page but it's a big convenience.
   Without it, I need to run $ rpm -ql getmail to find out the right
   document every time, and then copy and paste to run less to check it.
   Do you have a better approach to do it?

thanks, (and sorry to post getmail's question here. I regard such filter
function as a part of Using Mutt.)

charlie


On Wed, Jan 09, 2002 at 05:07:03PM +0100, Roman Neuhauser wrote:
  I've tried procmail and maildrop to go with getmail but all failed. I
  believe they should be able to work someday when I have enough hard work
  on them. :)
 
  Report:
  2. maildrop returns (-1) while I set for getmail:
 
 postmaster = |/usr/bin/maildrop ~/.maildroprc
 
 (The .maildroprc contains stuff like Roman's.)

 Interesting. I suggest you to enable logging in both getmail and
 maildrop, tail -f both logfiles, and get some mail.
 Also, it'd be nice if you provided version numbers. I'm no maildrop
 hacker, but Charles wrote getmail, and a version number could
 probably help.

  3. getmail doesn't have enough documentation at this moment:

 I dare to disagree:

 share/doc/getmail/CHANGELOG
 share/doc/getmail/docs.txt
 share/doc/getmail/faq.txt
 share/doc/getmail/getmail.txt
 share/examples/getmail/getmailrc-example

a. no man page

 While man page would be really nice IMO, Charles
 expressed he was not interested in maintaining it. That said, the
 tarball *does* have enough docs IMO.

b. the rpm package comes with Mandrake 8.1 is broken. It misses a (at
   least) python module. I replace it with a D/L one.

 You should bug the package's maintainer. The FreeBSD port I
 installed Getmail from didn't give me any trouble. And again, not
 enough info: *what* Python module?


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Re: returning to inbox (..ish)

2002-01-10 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Being an emacs lover, I've got 

macro index \Cf\Cj change-folder{imapserver}Inbox

You could easiloy put in /var/mail/foo

steven

On Thu, Jan 10, 2002 at 10:05:34AM +0100, Nick Wilson wrote:
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 Mornin' all
 When I hit 'c' and navigate to a mailbox, how do I get back to
 /var/spool/mail/nick? It's an awfully painfull task to navigate right up
 to the spool again. I usually restart mutt, but this surely isn't right?
 
 Much thanks
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 Fax:  +45 3325 0677
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Re: Possible to get the mail fetched by getmail filtered?

2002-01-10 Thread Roman Neuhauser

 Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 01:39:54 +0800
 From: Charles Jie [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Mutt Mail-list [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Possible to get the mail fetched by getmail filtered?
 
 Thanks, Roman.
 
 1. My getmail.log gives:
 
  Aborting... (command /usr/bin/maildrop ~/.maildroprc returned 19200
  (maildrop: signal 0x06))
 
  $getmail gives sth similar:
 
   msg #1 : len 998 ... retrievedfailed to process message list for
   charlesjie (command /usr/bin/maildrop ~/.maildroprc returned 19200
   (maildrop: signal 0x06))
   Resetting connection and aborting...
 
 2. My maildrop now looks OK and saves message to given mbox. The problem
is that getmail doesn't remove message in POP server. I'll get a copy
of the same message each time I run getmail.

So it works now? Was the problem just the getmail rpm?

As to your question: getmail *does* remove retrieved messages from
the server just fine. I don't know if it's the default behavior, but
you can certainly get it with

delete = 1

in your .getmailrc
   
 
 3. getmail also fails to fetch mail if the destination mbox doesn't
exist. Thus I can not let mutt remove the empty mbox file when all
messages are deleted.

Yes. This is clearly stated in the docs... Or was it the source?
Anyway, I don't see how this could be a problem given that you
have getmail deliver to maildrop?
 
 4. My getmail is 2.1.9, while maildrop is 1.3.4.
The broken getmail rpm from Mandrake 8.1 is 2.1.5. I'll send it to
you in another mail. It misses ALL the python modules.

As I already wrote in a separate message, I don't know what good it
is to send rpm files. But let's get over it.
 
 7. It takes no hard work to prepare man page but it's a big convenience.

Well, you have to *maintain* it: keep it up to date. And that's
worse.

Without it, I need to run $ rpm -ql getmail to find out the right
document every time, and then copy and paste to run less to check it.
Do you have a better approach to do it?

 cd /usr/share/doc/getmail-2.1.9  ls
   
(or wherever the docs get stored on a Mandrake box)
 
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mutt-1.3.25i: $pgp_create_traditional creates application/pgp instead of text/plain messages

2002-01-10 Thread David T-G

Package: mutt
Version: 1.3.25i
Severity: important

-- Please type your report below this line

The typical PGP message is encapsulated with its signature in PGP-MIME
format.  Many mail programs cannot handle that and, although its use is
not encouraged, mutt now includes a $pgp_create_traditional variable to
sign messages in-line instead of with a MIME-attached signature.

This is not sufficient for many mail programs, including (but not limited
to) MS Outlook and PINE.  To provide the text/plain format required
by those mailers, Shane Wegener created his pgp-outlook patch with a
$pgp_outlook_compat variable which, when set, formats the message
correctly.

The behavior of $pgp_create_traditional should be changed to match that
when $pgp_outlook_compat is set -- the message will be in text/plain
format instead of application/pgp format.


:-D

-- Build environment information

(Note: This is the build environment installed on the system
muttbug is run on.  Information may or may not match the environment
used to build mutt.)

- gcc version information
gcc
Reading specs from /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-linux-gnu/2.95.1/specs
gcc version 2.95.1 19990816 (release)

- CFLAGS
-Wall -pedantic -O6 -mpentiumpro -malign-loops=2 -malign-jumps=2 -malign-functions=2

-- Mutt Version Information

Mutt 1.3.25i (2002-01-01)
Copyright (C) 1996-2001 Michael R. Elkins and others.
Mutt comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY; for details type `mutt -vv'.
Mutt is free software, and you are welcome to redistribute it
under certain conditions; type `mutt -vv' for details.

System: Linux 2.4.5 (i686) [using ncurses 5.0]
Compile options:
-DOMAIN
+DEBUG
+HOMESPOOL  -USE_SETGID  +USE_DOTLOCK  +DL_STANDALONE  
+USE_FCNTL  -USE_FLOCK
+USE_POP  +USE_IMAP  -USE_GSS  -USE_SSL  -USE_SASL  
+HAVE_REGCOMP  -USE_GNU_REGEX  
+HAVE_COLOR  +HAVE_START_COLOR  +HAVE_TYPEAHEAD  +HAVE_BKGDSET  
+HAVE_CURS_SET  +HAVE_META  +HAVE_RESIZETERM  
+HAVE_PGP  -BUFFY_SIZE -EXACT_ADDRESS  -SUN_ATTACHMENT  
+ENABLE_NLS  -LOCALES_HACK  +COMPRESSED  +HAVE_WC_FUNCS  +HAVE_LANGINFO_CODESET  
++HAVE_LANGINFO_YESEXPR  
+HAVE_ICONV  -ICONV_NONTRANS  +HAVE_GETSID  +HAVE_GETADDRINFO  
ISPELL=/usr/bin/ispell
SENDMAIL=/usr/sbin/sendmail
MAILPATH=Mailbox
PKGDATADIR=/home/davidtg/local/share/mutt
SYSCONFDIR=/home/davidtg/local/etc
EXECSHELL=/bin/sh
-MIXMASTER
To contact the developers, please mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED].
To report a bug, please use the flea(1) utility.

  Patches I have applied (I find this non-standard list helpful)

  Feature patch: patch-1.3.25.rr.compressed.1 (dtg)
  Feature patch: patch-0.00.sec.patchlist.8.1.dtg (dtg)
  Feature patch: %_   0.94.12 by O'Shaughnessy Evans
  Feature patch: reverse-reply0.95.4 by Stefan `Sec` Zehl (+ hb)
  Feature patch: patch-1.1.1.hb.save_alias.1 (dtg)
  Feature patch: patch-1.3.23.bj.hash_destroy.1 (dtg)
  Feature patch: patch-1.3.23.bj.my_hdr_subject.1 (dtg)
  Feature patch: patch-1.3.23.bj.noquote_hdr_term.1 (dtg)
  Feature patch: patch-1.3.24.bj.status-time.1-dtg (dtg)
  Feature patch: patch-1.3.23.bj.current_shortcut.1 (dtg)
  Feature patch: patch-1.3.24.dgc.xlabel_ext.4 (dtg)
  Feature patch: patch-1.3.24.dgc.deepif.1 (dtg)
  Feature patch: patch-1.3.24.dgc.attach.2 (dtg)
  Feature patch: patch-1.3.24.dgc.markmsg.2 (dtg)
  Feature patch: patch-1.3.24.dgc.unbind.1 (dtg)
  Feature patch: patch-1.3.24.dgc.isalias.1 (dtg)
  Feature patch: patch-1.2.mha.resend-fcc.1 (dtg)
  Feature patch: patch-1.3.25.cd.edit_threads.9.1 (dtg)
  Feature patch: patch-1.3.24.cd.trash_folder.1 (dtg)
  Feature patch: patch-1.3.2609.mg.hdrcolor.1 (dtg)
  Feature patch: patch-1.3.15.sw.pgp-outlook.1 (dtg)
  Feature patch: patch-1.3.23.2.nr.tag_prefix_cond (dtg)
  Feature patch: patch-1.3.23.ats.mark_old-1.3.23+cvs-1.diff (dtg)
  Feature patch: patch-1.3.25i.devl.narrow_tree.1 (dtg)
  Feature patch: patch-1.3.25.dw.pgp-hook (dtg)




Re: application/pgp breaks Pine, too (was: applying pgp-outlook patch)

2002-01-10 Thread David T-G

Jeremy, et al --

...and then Jeremy Blosser said...
% 
% On Jan 09, David T-G [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote:
%  ...and then Jeremy Blosser said...
%  % So have any of you guys filed this as an actual bug against mutt yet?
...
%  Or at least I figured that someone else would do it, particularly since
%  I didn't start the thread.  Someone ought to raise a hand and go ahead...
% 
% Someone posted it to mutt-dev I think but the tracking word in bug
% tracking system is kind of the operative part.

Right.

Having not seen anything on this, and having not heard anyone else say
whoa, that would break Eudora or whatnot, I will submit the flea.  So
there.


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Re: s/S index flag and check-traditional-pgp

2002-01-10 Thread David T-G

Rene --

...and then Rene Clerc said...
% 
% * David T-G [EMAIL PROTECTED] [09-01-2002 17:40]:
% 
% | % The clearsigned messages (like yours, Derek), show up with nothing in
% | % front in the message index; when I verify them using EscP, the
% | % signature is verified, and an 's' shows up: so no 'S' appears.
% | 
% | Make sure that the signature is being verified when you hit esc-P, 'cuz I
% | thought it didn't until you opened the message (once it was recognizable
% | as a PGP message).
% 
% I did; after opening and verifying, pager shows the message exactly
% the same as a PGP/Mime signed message.

Good enough.  I read your message to say that you got an 'S' as soon as
you hit esc-P rather than after you opened the message.


% 
% -- 
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% 
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% in a little man that can burst into flame.
% -John Steinbeck


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Re: From Header, and other questions

2002-01-10 Thread David T-G

Ben --

...and then Benjamin Pharr said...
% 
% I am fairly new to Mutt, but I have RTFM and done a Google search, so

Welcome!


...
% First of all, I have several different e-mail addresses I use for
% different purpose. Is there a right way to switch between From
% addresses? 

To send a new message with a specified address, use a send-hook to run a
my_hdr command to set your From: header.


% 
% Also, I have this in my .muttrc:
% 
% set reverse_name = yes
% set reverse_realname = yes
% 
% , but Mutt doesn't seem to be honoring it. For instance, when I have an

You need to be sure $alternates is set up correctly.  Yours would
probably look about like

  set alternates=ben(|-lists)@benpharr.com

if you only have these two addresses.


% e-mail come in to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and I reply to it, [EMAIL PROTECTED] is put 
in the From header. I want the e-mail address that it was sent to to be used in the 
reply.

Yep.  That needs $alternates.


% 
% Finally, I get lots of signed messages off the Debian lists, so I have
% automatic verification turned off. Now I can't figure out how to
% manually verify a message. I did it once, but I don't remember how.

I think Nicolas's macro is probably the best answer here, though you might
be able to verify without opening the message for reading (untested).


% 
% If anyone can help me with any of this, I would appreciate it. Thanks!

HTH  HAND


% 
% Ben Pharr
% 


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Re: fcc by recipient name to a subdir

2002-01-10 Thread David T-G

Michael --

...and then Michael Maibaum said...
% 
% Hi all,

Hello!


% 
% Stimulated by recent threads on organisation, I want to save the fcc
% copies of my outgoing mail to a subdir. At present they are saved by

*grin*  It's contagious, isn't it?


% name to the top level of my Mail dir and to please my slightly
% obbsessive sense of tidieness I would like to move them to a subdir
% called outbox/

Easy enough.


% 
% this seems easy enough to do if you are saving all the mail to a single
% mailbox, but is there a way to do it if you are saving to recipeint
% named mailboxes?

Use the %O expando (that's an oh and not a zero, mind you) as outlined in
section 6.3.80 (index_format) in a hook something like

  fcc-save-hook . =outbox/%O

to save everything in the original save folder name under outbox.  I
find O'Shaughnessy Evans's %_ patch to force lower casing handy, since it
seems that %O will try to write to UserName instead of username if it is
so capitalized in the headers.


% 
% many thanks

HTH  HAND


% 
% Michael
% -- 
% Dr Michael A. Maibaum - (W)+1 (415) 561 1682 - (H)+1 (415) 626 6733
% [EMAIL PROTECTED] URL:http://www.gene-hacker.net/main/index.php


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Re: Something wrong with the list?

2002-01-10 Thread David T-G

Gerhard --

...and then Gerhard Siegesmund said...
% 
% Hello Mutt-Users

Hello!


% 
% There seems to be something wrong with the list today. I didn't get one
% mail from the list today although there seem to be several mails posted as I
% see on the archiv. Anything wrong with my subscription? Or just a
% problem with the web?

I imagine that you have been quietly unsubscribed because of some glitch.
As I understand it, the list software watches for so many bounces before
deciding that you must really be gone, but the list gets enough traffic
that the threshold is reached before whatever random hole in the 'net
gets fixed and your mail gets to you again.

There was one time when it was hitting me so often that I contemplated
setting up a cron job to resubscribe myself every day, but that would
have been rude and the problem fixed itself anyway :-)

Try signing up again, and welcome back :-)


% 
% -- 
% cu
%   --== Jerri ==--
% Homepage: http://www.jerri.de/   ICQ: 54160208


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Re: using wildcards in mailboxes

2002-01-10 Thread David T-G

Maciej --

...and then Maciej Kalisiak said...
% 
% Is it possible to use wildcards in the mailboxes command? I have

If you want to use wildcards, you can only use shell-level shortcuts.
The shell does not know what '=' means, so the command fails.  Now, if
you had a symlink called =lists in your home dir (where you presumably
start mutt) and had it pointing to $HOME/Mail/lists (or wherever =lists
points in a mutt context), then it should work just fine...  Similarly,
you could start mutt in your $HOME/Mail dir and leave off the =, or
create a symlink = that points to the current directory, for another way
to get around it.

Most people just change the mailboxes line to something the shell can
parse :-)


HTH  HAND

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Re: individual index_formats

2002-01-10 Thread David T-G

Hanspeter --

...and then Hanspeter Roth said...
% 
% Is it possible to have lines with different index_formats in the

Not as currently designed.  The best you can probably do is change your
colors to something that highlights your target messages.  I don't know,
however, what would happen to the colors when a message tips over the
time threshold; you might have to apply the color command periodically to
keep the display updated.


% index? I would like to display a different date format for messages
% sent within the last 24 hours.

Neat idea.  You could use a Maildir name with a cron job that checks
every minute and moves mail out to a Maildir name-old if it's over a
day old, I suppose ;-)


HTH  HAND

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Re: fcc by recipient name to a subdir

2002-01-10 Thread Nick Wilson

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* On 10-01-02 at 20:05 
* David T-G said

 % Stimulated by recent threads on organisation, I want to save the fcc
 % copies of my outgoing mail to a subdir. At present they are saved by
 
 *grin*  It's contagious, isn't it?

Oh yeah!

 % 
 % this seems easy enough to do if you are saving all the mail to a single
 % mailbox, but is there a way to do it if you are saving to recipeint
 % named mailboxes?
 
 Use the %O expando (that's an oh and not a zero, mind you) as outlined in
 section 6.3.80 (index_format) in a hook something like
 
   fcc-save-hook . =outbox/%O

Ahh... at last. Just what I need to!

 to save everything in the original save folder name under outbox.  I
 find O'Shaughnessy Evans's %_ patch to force lower casing handy, since it
 seems that %O will try to write to UserName instead of username if it is
 so capitalized in the headers.

That patch seems like a neat idea, where can I get it? I checked Davids
'build cocktail' but couldn't see it.


- -- 

Nick Wilson

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Fax:+45 3325 0677
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Re: fcc by recipient name to a subdir

2002-01-10 Thread Nick Wilson

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* On 10-01-02 at 18:18 
* Sven Guckes said

 * Michael Maibaum [EMAIL PROTECTED] [020110 16:37]:
  Stimulated by recent threads on organisation, I want to save
  the fcc copies of my outgoing mail to a subdir. At present
  they are saved by name to the top level of my Mail dir and
  to please my slightly obbsessive sense of tidieness I would
  like to move them to a subdir called outbox/
  
  this seems easy enough to do if you are saving all the mail
  to a single mailbox, but is there a way to do it if you are
  saving to recipeint named mailboxes?
 
   my_hdr Fcc: /dir/outbox

Won't that just create a custom header? 
I must be missing the point :)
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Re: mutt patches (was Re: to_chars question)

2002-01-10 Thread David T-G

Pat --

...and then MuttER said...
% 
% On Mon, Jan 07, 2002 at 01:31:45AM -0800, Will Yardley wrote:
%  
%  i use a patch from:
%  
%  http://home.uchicago.edu/~dgc/mutt/#attach
...
% 
% This should be considered for incorporation as an included
% feature/option/whatever.

Lots of feature patches are floating around out there (just surf over to 

  http://mutt.justpickone.org/mutt-build-cocktail/

to see the ones I use) but don't get included in the main mutt
distribution because they're not considered important enough to be
worth their weight in additional code.  One thing that has been at the
core of mutt's philosophy has been keeping the program tight and clean
and unbloated.

I created my cocktail page because I like that list of patches and wanted
to offer it to anyone who might enjoy it but might not enjoy making the
patches all work together (which I don't particularly enjoy, either, but I
really like my cocktail features :-)  There is a clean directory where
known-good versions are stored; all you have to do is grab the tar file,
extract it, and run configure and make to have the patched version of
mutt ready for your system.  The version under mutt-x.y.z on the cocktail
page is my working copy and may or may not be in any state to download :-)


% -- 
% Pat Shanahan Registered Linux User #207535
%   Registered at: http://counter.li.org


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Re: fcc by recipient name to a subdir

2002-01-10 Thread David T-G

Nick, at al --

...and then Nick Wilson said...
% 
% * On 10-01-02 at 20:05 
% * David T-G said
% 
%  % Stimulated by recent threads on organisation, I want to save the fcc
%  % copies of my outgoing mail to a subdir. At present they are saved by
%  
%  *grin*  It's contagious, isn't it?
% 
% Oh yeah!

*grin*


% 
...
%  Use the %O expando (that's an oh and not a zero, mind you) as outlined in
%  section 6.3.80 (index_format) in a hook something like
%  
%fcc-save-hook . =outbox/%O
% 
% Ahh... at last. Just what I need to!

Good deal.


% 
%  to save everything in the original save folder name under outbox.  I
%  find O'Shaughnessy Evans's %_ patch to force lower casing handy, since it
%  seems that %O will try to write to UserName instead of username if it is
%  so capitalized in the headers.
% 
% That patch seems like a neat idea, where can I get it? I checked Davids
% 'build cocktail' but couldn't see it.

It's there, though you may not recognize it:

  [zero] [2:19pm] ~  lynx mutt.justpickone.org/mutt-build-cocktail

 Index of /mutt-build-cocktail (p1 of 2)

   Index of /mutt-build-cocktail
  
  NameLast modified   Size  Description

  
   [DIR]  Parent Directory09-Dec-2001 07:31  -
   [TXT]  00-READ-ME  06-Dec-2001 07:23 1k
  ...
   [TXT]  patch-0.94.12.oe.__... 06-Sep-2001 01:32 3k

Getting a percent into a URL is unnecessary ugly, so it was never
distributed that way.


% 
% 
% -- 
% 
% Nick Wilson

HTH  HAND


% 
% Tel:  +45 3325 0688
% Fax:  +45 3325 0677
% Web:  www.explodingnet.com
% 


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Re: fcc by recipient name to a subdir

2002-01-10 Thread David T-G

Nick --

...and then Nick Wilson said...
% 
% * On 10-01-02 at 18:18 
% * Sven Guckes said
% 
%  * Michael Maibaum [EMAIL PROTECTED] [020110 16:37]:
%   Stimulated by recent threads on organisation, I want to save
...
%   this seems easy enough to do if you are saving all the mail
%   to a single mailbox, but is there a way to do it if you are
%   saving to recipeint named mailboxes?
%  
%my_hdr Fcc: /dir/outbox
% 
% Won't that just create a custom header? 

1) Yes, it will, but the fcc: header is another way to specify the fcc.
Since I have edit_hdrs turned on, sometimes I specify the outbox right
there.

2) Unfortunately, this will put all messages in the single file outbox,
which is what Michael mentioned but not what he wanted to do; you still
need %O here.


% I must be missing the point :)

Yes and no.


% -- 
% 
% Nick Wilson

HTH  HAND


% 
% Tel:  +45 3325 0688
% Fax:  +45 3325 0677
% Web:  www.explodingnet.com
% 


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Re: [OT] Possible to get the mail fetched by getmail filtered?

2002-01-10 Thread Charles Cazabon

I apologize for this being offtopic, but as the author of getmail, I can't let
the following misinformation go uncorrected.

Charles Jie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 1. My getmail.log gives:
 
  Aborting... (command /usr/bin/maildrop ~/.maildroprc returned 19200
  (maildrop: signal 0x06))

Maildrop is dying because it's receiving signal #6.  Not getmail's fault.

 2. My maildrop now looks OK and saves message to given mbox. The problem
is that getmail doesn't remove message in POP server. I'll get a copy
of the same message each time I run getmail.

getmail refuses to delete the message because the local delivery failed.  The
alternative is to risk losing mail, and I won't let that happen.

 3. getmail also fails to fetch mail if the destination mbox doesn't
exist. Thus I can not let mutt remove the empty mbox file when all
messages are deleted.
[...]
 6. Futher, getmail doesn't mention the restriction of point 3.

Sure it does.  It's answered in the FAQ, under I've configured getmail to
deliver to my mbox file, but it won't do it. Why?.

 7. It takes no hard work to prepare man page but it's a big convenience.

Fine.  You do the work, then.  I already write the documentation in another
format.

 thanks, (and sorry to post getmail's question here. I regard such filter
 function as a part of Using Mutt.)

Don't send getmail questions to the mutt list, please.  It's offtopic and
annoys everyone.  getmail has its own mailing list, mentioned several times in
the documentation.

Charles
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Re: individual index_formats

2002-01-10 Thread Hanspeter Roth

On Thu, Jan 10, 2002 at 08:14:10AM -0700, Rob 'Feztaa' Park wrote:
 
 I know, pine is not very robust, but I'm pretty sure if you configure it
 properly, it can display the time the message arrived if it arrived
 today, the day of the week it arrived if it arrived less than a week
 ago, and the full date otherwise.

It took me to long to search for certain features in pine. I don't
want to learn too many programs at once. Thus I have to set
priorities. 
For me very importand are thread-sorting and tagging/deleting
multiple messages with the same subject. It took me too long to find
that in pine. So I gave up.
Maybe once when I think I can't explore anymore usefull in mutt, I
might look at pine.

-Hanspeter



Re: send-hook ~t and autoedit

2002-01-10 Thread Hanspeter Roth

On Thu, Jan 10, 2002 at 09:13:07AM -0600, Knute wrote:
 
 Try this:
   send-hook . 'set record=+sent'


I already tried this. It seems only to be effective at the To:
prompt at the initial send-menu if autoedit is unset.
But it seems to have no effect in the compose menu.
Aliases are reevaluated in the compose menu however.

-Hanspeter



Re: fcc by recipient name to a subdir

2002-01-10 Thread Nick Wilson

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* David T-G said

 % I must be missing the point :)
 
 Yes and no.

Well in for me that's a definate improvement!


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Re: Bold text

2002-01-10 Thread Rob 'Feztaa' Park

Alas! Erika Pacholleck spake thus:
 (I never learn how to find the number out quickly - yes, I know
 there is a list, but that one is really long :( ).

Do a google search for something like RFC database, and you should
find a search engine for RFCs, which is very handy.

In fact, the way things are going with Google, I wouldn't be surprised
if they made their own RFC search :)

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Re: fcc by recipient name to a subdir

2002-01-10 Thread Nick Wilson

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* On 10-01-02 at 20:30 
* David T-G said...

 %  to save everything in the original save folder name under outbox.  I
 %  find O'Shaughnessy Evans's %_ patch to force lower casing handy, since it
 %  seems that %O will try to write to UserName instead of username if it is
 %  so capitalized in the headers.
 % 
 % That patch seems like a neat idea, where can I get it? I checked Davids
 % 'build cocktail' but couldn't see it.
 
 It's there, though you may not recognize it:
 Getting a percent into a URL is unnecessary ugly, so it was never
 distributed that way.

Great, thanks very much!


- -- 

Nick Wilson

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fetching mail (re-visited)

2002-01-10 Thread Nick Wilson

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I think this might have been covered recently.

Mutt only updates my mailboxes when I hit a key.
What do I need to do to change that?

Much thanks
- -- 

Nick Wilson

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Re: Something wrong with the list?

2002-01-10 Thread Rob 'Feztaa' Park

Alas! Gerhard Siegesmund spake thus:
 Hello Mutt-Users
 
 There seems to be something wrong with the list today. I didn't get one
 mail from the list today although there seem to be several mails posted as I
 see on the archiv. Anything wrong with my subscription? Or just a
 problem with the web?

I too seem to be suffering from random unsubscribtions. I hate the fact
that i don't get a message telling me I've been booted off, because I
have to wait for a day or two without getting any messages before I
realize something is fishy :)

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--
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understand is, if they don't know who you are, how do they know who
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Re: individual index_formats

2002-01-10 Thread Rob 'Feztaa' Park

Alas! Hanspeter Roth spake thus:
 On Thu, Jan 10, 2002 at 08:14:10AM -0700, Rob 'Feztaa' Park wrote:
  I know, pine is not very robust, but I'm pretty sure if you configure it
  properly, it can display the time the message arrived if it arrived
  today, the day of the week it arrived if it arrived less than a week
  ago, and the full date otherwise.
 
 It took me to long to search for certain features in pine. I
 don't want to learn too many programs at once. Thus I have to
 set priorities. For me very importand are thread-sorting and
 tagging/deleting multiple messages with the same subject. It took me
 too long to find that in pine. So I gave up. Maybe once when I think I

I don't think pine can do the tagging stuff.

 can't explore anymore usefull in mutt, I might look at pine.

Don't bother, pine is not as useful as mutt :)

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Re: Something wrong with the list?

2002-01-10 Thread Steve Kennedy

On Thu, Jan 10, 2002 at 12:46:03PM -0700, Rob 'Feztaa' Park wrote:

 I too seem to be suffering from random unsubscribtions. I hate the fact
 that i don't get a message telling me I've been booted off, because I
 have to wait for a day or two without getting any messages before I
 realize something is fishy :)

It's a problem, people get un subbed when mail starts bouncing ...

If I was to send a message to the address ... it would bounce ...

I guess I could set-up a bounce list, and if anyone got removed
for bouncing, they get auto-added to that one ... but then that
would only send a warning out infrequently, and you'd have to
manually remove yourself from it.

Steve

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Re: send-hook ~t and autoedit

2002-01-10 Thread Michael Elkins

On Thu, Jan 10, 2002 at 07:50:25PM +0100, Hanspeter Roth wrote:
 I already tried this. It seems only to be effective at the To:
 prompt at the initial send-menu if autoedit is unset.
 But it seems to have no effect in the compose menu.

It's because there is a chicken-and-egg problem.  send-hook changes settings
apropos to the generation of the reply/forward, such as whether to include
the message, its encoding, etc.  Unless you specify the addresses prior to
editing the message, Mutt can't go back and alter the message according to
the settings you want.



Re: fetching mail (re-visited)

2002-01-10 Thread David T-G

Nick --

...and then Nick Wilson said...
% 
% I think this might have been covered recently.

It was :-)


% 
% Mutt only updates my mailboxes when I hit a key.
% What do I need to do to change that?

Modify $check_interval and $timeout appropriately.


% 
% Much thanks

HTH  HAND


% -- 
% 
% Nick Wilson
% 
% Tel:  +45 3325 0688
% Fax:  +45 3325 0677
% Web:  www.explodingnet.com
% 


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mailboxes command confusion.

2002-01-10 Thread Nick Wilson

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Hi there
I've been reading about the 'mailboxes' command used to specify which
files recieve mail. I *really* need to be using it but can't work out
the syntax.

Two of my mailboxes as examples look like this...

~Mail/Lists/mutt-users
~Mail/Lists/procmail

Would someone please give me an example of it's usage?

Thanks a lot
- -- 

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Re: fetching mail (re-visited)

2002-01-10 Thread Nick Wilson

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* On 10-01-02 at 21:09 
* David T-G said

 % I think this might have been covered recently.
 
 It was :-)
 
 % 
 % Mutt only updates my mailboxes when I hit a key.
 % What do I need to do to change that?
 
 Modify $check_interval and $timeout appropriately.
 
I remember now! Thanks.

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Re: How to insert utf8 characters in mutt?

2002-01-10 Thread Walt Mankowski

On Thu, Jan 10, 2002 at 04:09:19PM +0100, Stephan Seitz wrote:
 I'm using mutt 1.3.25i in an utf8-xterm. Within my editor (vim) I can
 insert any utf8 characters with ctrl-v u utf8-hexcode.
 But how do I such thing within mutt (e.g. the subject)?

You could try adding

set edit_headers

to your .muttrc and edit the subject inside vim.

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Re: fetching mail (re-visited)

2002-01-10 Thread Nick Wilson

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* On 10-01-02 at 21:09 
* David T-G said

 
 Modify $check_interval and $timeout appropriately.
 

.er, I can only find $check_new and that's for Maildir boxes?



- -- 

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Re: fetching mail (re-visited)

2002-01-10 Thread David T-G

Nick --

...and then Nick Wilson said...
% 
% 
% * On 10-01-02 at 21:09 
% * David T-G said
% 
%  Modify $check_interval and $timeout appropriately.
% 
% .er, I can only find $check_new and that's for Maildir boxes?

Sorry; that's $mail_check :-)


% 
% -- 
% 
% Nick Wilson

HTH  HAND


% 
% Tel:  +45 3325 0688
% Fax:  +45 3325 0677
% Web:  www.explodingnet.com
% 


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Re: custom message-id generation with Mutt?

2002-01-10 Thread Michael Tatge

Michael Elkins muttered:
 Mutt currently doesn't allow you to specify the format of the message-id
 field, other than your setting of $host.

You should be able to tweak that at MTA level. Rewriting will be your
friend.

HTH,

Michael
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Re: mailboxes command confusion.

2002-01-10 Thread David T-G

Nick --

...and then Nick Wilson said...
% 
% Hi there

Hello!


% I've been reading about the 'mailboxes' command used to specify which
% files recieve mail. I *really* need to be using it but can't work out
% the syntax.

Here's how mine looks:

  mailboxes $MAIL `echo $HOME/Mail/F.*`

I have $MAIL set to $HOME/Mailbox, where I get mail.  You could use !
instead, since that part is not something that mutt would ask the shell
to parse.


% 
% Two of my mailboxes as examples look like this...
% 
% ~Mail/Lists/mutt-users
% ~Mail/Lists/procmail
% 
% Would someone please give me an example of it's usage?

How about

  mailboxes `echo $HOME/Mail/Lists/*`

for you?


% 
% Thanks a lot

HTH  HAND


% -- 
% 
% Nick Wilson
% 
% Tel:  +45 3325 0688
% Fax:  +45 3325 0677
% Web:  www.explodingnet.com
% 


:-D
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Re: Something wrong with the list?

2002-01-10 Thread David T-G

Steve --

...and then Steve Kennedy said...
% 
% On Thu, Jan 10, 2002 at 12:46:03PM -0700, Rob 'Feztaa' Park wrote:
% 
%  I too seem to be suffering from random unsubscribtions. I hate the fact
%  that i don't get a message telling me I've been booted off, because I
%  have to wait for a day or two without getting any messages before I
%  realize something is fishy :)
% 
% It's a problem, people get un subbed when mail starts bouncing ...

Right.


% 
% If I was to send a message to the address ... it would bounce ...

Of course :-)

What about the workaround of sending a probe and waiting to see if that
bounces, perhaps having sent it after a delay?


:-D
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Re: individual index_formats

2002-01-10 Thread David T-G

Hanspeter --

...and then Hanspeter Roth said...
% 
% On Thu, Jan 10, 2002 at 08:14:10AM -0700, Rob 'Feztaa' Park wrote:
%  
%  I know, pine is not very robust, but I'm pretty sure if you configure it
...
% 
% It took me to long to search for certain features in pine. I don't
% want to learn too many programs at once. Thus I have to set
% priorities. 

Understandable.  You'd only want to spend the time on the most worthwhile
programs, too.


% For me very importand are thread-sorting and tagging/deleting
% multiple messages with the same subject. It took me too long to find
% that in pine. So I gave up.

I trust you've answered all of those questions for mutt.


% Maybe once when I think I can't explore anymore usefull in mutt, I
% might look at pine.

Many here would grin widely at that and tell you the day will never come!


% 
% -Hanspeter


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Re: Possible to get the mail fetched by getmail filtered?

2002-01-10 Thread Knute

On Fri, 11 Jan 2002, Charles Jie wrote:

 7. It takes no hard work to prepare man page but it's a big convenience.
Without it, I need to run $ rpm -ql getmail to find out the right
document every time, and then copy and paste to run less to check it.
Do you have a better approach to do it?

Have you tried  rpm -ql getmail  getmail.txt?
It may just put it into a text file for you.
It's only a guess as I haven't used rpm in ages myself. 8o)
-- 
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You live, You die.  Enjoy the interval!
-- Clarence



Re: mailboxes command confusion.

2002-01-10 Thread Nick Wilson

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* On 10-01-02 at 21:48 
* David T-G said

 % I've been reading about the 'mailboxes' command used to specify which
 % files recieve mail. I *really* need to be using it but can't work out
 % the syntax.
 % Two of my mailboxes as examples look like this...
 % 
 % ~Mail/Lists/mutt-users
 % ~Mail/Lists/procmail
 % 
 % Would someone please give me an example of it's usage?
 
 How about
 
   mailboxes `echo $HOME/Mail/Lists/*`
 
 for you?

Okay, do I put that line in my rc?


- -- 

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Tel:+45 3325 0688
Fax:+45 3325 0677
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Re: mailboxes command confusion.

2002-01-10 Thread dan radom

mailboxes `ls -l /home/graffix/mail/* |awk '{print $9}' |egrep -v '(gz|drafts|sent)' | 
tr '\012' ' '`

I uswe the above to catch everything in my mail directory with the exception of 
drafts, sent and anything that's been archived (gzipd).

dan

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 I've been reading about the 'mailboxes' command used to specify which
 files recieve mail. I *really* need to be using it but can't work out
 the syntax.
 
 Two of my mailboxes as examples look like this...
 
 ~Mail/Lists/mutt-users
 ~Mail/Lists/procmail
 
 Would someone please give me an example of it's usage?
 
 Thanks a lot
 - -- 
 
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 Tel:  +45 3325 0688
 Fax:  +45 3325 0677
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Re: new user

2002-01-10 Thread Daniel Rachel Bomsta

Thanks Knute it was a bad .signature file!

Dan

On Thursday 10 January 2002 10:53 am, you wrote:
 On Thu, 10 Jan 2002, Nick Wilson wrote:
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  * On 10-01-02 at 17:30
  * Daniel  Rachel Bomsta said
 
   I am a relatively new user to mutt ( about 2 months ).  I have a recent
   problem with mutt-1.3.24.  When I compose a message I get the To:
   prompt and enter the address, then I get the Subject: prompt and can
   enter a subject, I hit enter and mutt is frozen.  I must kill it and I
   am still not able to compose a message.
  
   Any ideas?
 
  Yeah, mutt is probably trying to invoke/run something that is not doing
  what it should. With me it was the editor being set to 'vim' not 'vi'
  (RedHat weirdity) and this fella knute's mutt was looking for a
  signiture that didn't exist.
 
  Time to sift through that .muttrc!
  - --

 The signature thing wasn't in the muttrc though.  I'm still not sure
 where it is located.  And I've checked most of the files in my home
 directory.

 And I know that it isn't a global setting because I've reloaded / twice
 since it was set that way.



Re: mailboxes command confusion.

2002-01-10 Thread David T-G

Nick --

...and then Nick Wilson said...
% 
% * On 10-01-02 at 21:48 
% * David T-G said
% 
%  % I've been reading about the 'mailboxes' command used to specify which
%  % files recieve mail. I *really* need to be using it but can't work out
%  % the syntax.
%  % Two of my mailboxes as examples look like this...
%  % 
%  % ~Mail/Lists/mutt-users
%  % ~Mail/Lists/procmail
%  % 
%  % Would someone please give me an example of it's usage?
%  
%  How about
%  
%mailboxes `echo $HOME/Mail/Lists/*`
%  
%  for you?
% 
% Okay, do I put that line in my rc?

Anywhere.  Mine happens to be on line 462.


% -- 
% 
% Nick Wilson

HTH  HAND


% 
% Tel:  +45 3325 0688
% Fax:  +45 3325 0677
% Web:  www.explodingnet.com
% 


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Re: new user

2002-01-10 Thread Knute

On Thu, 10 Jan 2002, Daniel  Rachel Bomsta wrote:

 
 Thanks Knute it was a bad .signature file!
 
 Dan

Well that's 2 cases now of that happening.  Maybe a message could be put
in so that after a timeout of say 5 seconds,  that it would post a
message saying what it is looking for.
Just a thought.

I'm glad that I could help.

-- 
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You live, You die.  Enjoy the interval!
-- Clarence



Re: mailboxes command confusion.

2002-01-10 Thread David T-G

Dan --

...and then dan radom said...
% 
% mailboxes `ls -l /home/graffix/mail/* |awk '{print $9}' |egrep -v '(gz|drafts|sent)' 
| tr '\012' ' '`
% 
% I uswe the above to catch everything in my mail directory with the exception of 
drafts, sent and anything that's been archived (gzipd).

Just curious...  Is there any reason that you're using

  ls -l | awk

instead of a simple

  ls -1

to build your list?  The -1 shouldn't really be necessary, even, since
you're piping to an egrep, but it ensures that you'll get your output in
a column and isn't a bad idea -- and, more importantly, doesn't waste the
time on a process like awk and thus isn't a burden.


% 
% dan

HTH  HAND


:-D
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Re: mailboxes command confusion.

2002-01-10 Thread dan radom

the reason is i wasn't aware of the -1 option for ls.  am now :)  thanks

 Just curious...  Is there any reason that you're using
 
   ls -l | awk
 
 instead of a simple
 
   ls -1



Getting Keys From Keyserver?

2002-01-10 Thread Benjamin Pharr

Thanks to everyone who helped me on my previous question. Now I have
another one for you. Is there anyway to tell Mutt to get a public key from a keyserver 
if I don't have it in my local keyring? Thanks in advance.

Ben Pharr





Re: mailboxes command confusion.

2002-01-10 Thread Samuel Padgett

David T-G [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Anywhere.  Mine happens to be on line 462.

Wow.  You have a 462+ line .muttrc?

Sam [who's impressed]



Re: mailboxes command confusion.

2002-01-10 Thread David T-G

Sam --

...and then Samuel Padgett said...
% 
% David T-G [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
% 
%  Anywhere.  Mine happens to be on line 462.
% 
% Wow.  You have a 462+ line .muttrc?

Better than that -- the whole thing is 501 :-)  It could use some trimming
of default stuff (cutting down) but some better commenting (filling up)
but some splitting into subfiles (cutting down).


% 
% Sam [who's impressed]

*grin*


:-D
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Re: mailboxes command confusion.

2002-01-10 Thread David T-G

Dan --

...and then dan radom said...
% 
% the reason is i wasn't aware of the -1 option for ls.  am now :)  thanks

Ah.  That's a good enough reason :-)

HAND


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Re: mailboxes command confusion.

2002-01-10 Thread Andreas Reinhold

On Thu, Jan 10, 2002 at 04:47:01PM -0500, Samuel Padgett wrote:

 Wow.  You have a 462+ line .muttrc?

come on, who's got the longest? Mine ist just 192 lines. 
Anyone got a Viagra-Script to offer? :)

cheers,
andi
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Re: Getting Keys From Keyserver?

2002-01-10 Thread David T-G

Ben --

...and then Benjamin Pharr said...
% 
% Thanks to everyone who helped me on my previous question. Now I have

Sure thing.


% another one for you. Is there anyway to tell Mutt to get a public key from a 
keyserver if I don't have it in my local keyring? Thanks in advance.

Yes.

Oh, you want to know how to do it? ;-)

Your gpg.rc file has a pgp_import_command that mutt will use to import
keys.  Your .gnupg/options file will have a keyserver line that will tell
gpg where to go to get keys; my options file contains

  keyserver wwwkeys.eu.pgp.net
  #keyserver wwwkeys.us.pgp.net
  #keyserver wwwkeys.pgp.net
  #keyserver certserver.pgp.com
  #keyserver pgp.ai.mit.edu
  #keyserver keyserver.net
  #keyserver search.keyserver.net

but AFAIK only one can be active so I only have the first one
uncommented.


% 
% Ben Pharr
% 

HTH  HAND


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Re: fetching mail (re-visited)

2002-01-10 Thread Michael Tatge

Nick Wilson muttered:
 
 * On 10-01-02 at 21:09 
 * David T-G said
 
  
  Modify $check_interval and $timeout appropriately.
  
 
 .er, I can only find $check_new and that's for Maildir boxes?

It's called $mail_check

HTH,

Michael
-- 
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(Unknown source)

PGP-Key: http://www-stud.ims.uni-stuttgart.de/~tatgeml/public.key



accented characters

2002-01-10 Thread Will Yardley

there was some discussion a couple weeks ago about typing accented
characters in X etc., and a couple other people agreed that it was hard
to find an english language document on setting this up.

so just thought i'd post this link, which i found helpful.

http://www.sober.com/content/accented_characters.html

hope that helps someone else out.

and i'm excited to finally have a use for that damn 'windows' key :

w



Re: new user

2002-01-10 Thread Michael Tatge

Knute muttered:
 On Thu, 10 Jan 2002, Daniel  Rachel Bomsta wrote:
  Thanks Knute it was a bad .signature file!
  
 
 Well that's 2 cases now of that happening. Maybe a message could be put
 in so that after a timeout of say 5 seconds, that it would post a
 message saying what it is looking for.
 Just a thought.

???
Can you explain that a bit more, please? What do you mean by bad
.signature file? I guess, the file was corrupted?
If I point $signature to a non-existing file the only thing that happens
is that there won't be a signature in my message?!

Michael
-- 
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for some of the brain-damages of minix.
(Linus Torvalds to Andrew Tanenbaum)

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Re: new user

2002-01-10 Thread Knute

On Thu, 10 Jan 2002, Michael Tatge wrote:

 
 Knute muttered:
  On Thu, 10 Jan 2002, Daniel  Rachel Bomsta wrote:
   Thanks Knute it was a bad .signature file!
   
  
  Well that's 2 cases now of that happening. Maybe a message could be put
  in so that after a timeout of say 5 seconds, that it would post a
  message saying what it is looking for.
  Just a thought.
 
 ???
 Can you explain that a bit more, please? What do you mean by bad
 .signature file? I guess, the file was corrupted?
 If I point $signature to a non-existing file the only thing that happens
 is that there won't be a signature in my message?!
 
 Michael
 -- 
 Your job is being a professor and researcher: That's one hell of a good excuse
 for some of the brain-damages of minix.
 (Linus Torvalds to Andrew Tanenbaum)
 
 PGP-Key: http://www-stud.ims.uni-stuttgart.de/~tatgeml/public.key
In my case,  I had set up a signature rotating program... sigrot I
think...  That was along time ago,  and simply forgot about it with
everything else going on.

I remembered having that,  so I decided to set up a signature file, and
see if that would take care of it.  And it did.
-- 
Knute

You live, You die.  Enjoy the interval!
-- Clarence



macro usage within editor

2002-01-10 Thread dan radom

Is it possible to create a macro that can be used when composing an email?  I like to 
trim my emails as much as possible, and a macro to send :.,$d to vi would be helpful.  
can that be done?

dan



Re: individual index_formats

2002-01-10 Thread Aaron Schrab

At 10:34 +0100 10 Jan 2002, Hanspeter Roth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Is it possible to have lines with different index_formats in the
 index? I would like to display a different date format for messages
 sent within the last 24 hours.

I have a patch that does almost that:

  http://schrab.com/aaron/mutt/patch-1.3.24.ats.date_optional.1

That should apply to pretty much any version of mutt, since it was
originally done when 0.96.6 was current.  I just recently updated it to
use the PATCHES file found in recent development versions.

With it %?[ and %?( in index_format are treated as conditionals, if the
relevant time is less than 12 hours in the past or future, the part
before the next  will be evaluated, otherwise the part between that and
the next ? is evaluated.  So, I use as my index_format:

set index_format='%4C %Z %?[?%[%H:%M]%[%m/%d]? %-15.15F (%5l) %s'

It would be quite simple to modify it for different periods of time.

I'll also note that that index_format looks *extremely* bad with an
unpatched mutt.

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Re: mailboxes command confusion.

2002-01-10 Thread Rob 'Feztaa' Park

Alas! Andreas Reinhold spake thus:
 On Thu, Jan 10, 2002 at 04:47:01PM -0500, Samuel Padgett wrote:
  Wow.  You have a 462+ line .muttrc?
 
 come on, who's got the longest? Mine ist just 192 lines. 

Mine appears to be 310, broken up across a few files.

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