Re: Opening html links in text mail
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Re: Hook question
* David T-G ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Jerome -- ...and then Jerome De Greef said... % % I think I have the solution: Yay! % % send-hook '~t .*' 'my_hdr From: Jerome De Greef [EMAIL PROTECTED]' % send-hook !'~t .*' 'my_hdr From: Jerome De Greef[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Does this work, or do you think it should? I'd expect that you'd need ..* in your patterns instead of just .* 'cuz the former is one character plus zero or more characters while the latter still accepts none. Perhaps it works simply because there is a To: header to check versus one being absent; in that case, you can probably leave off the asterisk. It works as is. But you're right, I thought .* was doing what ..* does. I'm not that good with regular expressions. BTW, doesn't ..* do the same as .+ ? Jerome -- +---+ | 'the panorama of the city is wrong | | in fact the city seems to be gone!' | | the clash, stop the world, 1980 | +---+
Bug Report Guide
I have updated my text about reporting bugs and made it available as a separate page: http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/mutt/bugrep.html Additions? Corrections? Feedback welcome! Sven -- Sven [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mutt-versions] Latest versions: MUTT http://www.mutt.org/ news:comp.mail.mutt mutt-1.2.5 [000729] MUTT http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/mutt/ mutt-1.3.28 [020313] MUTT MUTT - *the* mailer for UNIX with color, threading, IMAP+MIME+PGP+POP
Mutt 1.3.28 + ncurses 5.2 + xterm = blank screen
Hello! I've compiled mutt-1.3.28i in the default configuration on RedHat Linux 7.2 (i386) with all updates. If I run it in xterm (from XFree86-4.1.0) or in rxvt-2.7.6, it shows a blank screen. I can quit by pressing Ctrl-C and Enter. The same executable runs on the Linux console just fine. It turns out that the default configuration uses ncurses-5.2. I tried configuring Mutt with slang-1.4.4. It works fine. My guess is that Mutt does something with page switching that the newer versions of ncurses don't like. I believe it's a major bug that will be a frequently asked question as soon as mutt-1.4 is released. I checked the lists to see if it's not already a frequently asked question. There is a very similar description of the problem, except that it's not specific about software versions: http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=mutt-usersm=101062129425997w=2 -- Regards, Pavel Roskin
Re: unsubscribing - contact list owner?
* John Poltorak [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-03-16 01:02]: I have just subscribed using a new email address but can't get the old address unsubscribed, which is still forwarded to me, so I get two copies of each msg. let's see.. http://www.mutt.org/mail-lists.html well, this page allows subscription - but no unsubscriptions. (singing:) you can check out any time you like - but you can never leave... hehe I've tried changing the 'From:' line in mutt to the old subscription address but the mailing list manager won't accept it. What can I do? have you tried sending an unsubscription mail from that old account of yours? (i suppose you tried that - but you did not say, so..) what did majordomo return to you? any error messages at all? if all fails then you can probably contact the list owner at [EMAIL PROTECTED] But I have nevr tried that and I do not know who will repond to that - if at all. good luck! Sven -- echo help | mutt [EMAIL PROTECTED] echo lists | mutt [EMAIL PROTECTED] echo unsubscribe mutt-users | mutt [EMAIL PROTECTED] echo unsubscribe me dammit | mutt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: New Mail while in Folder View - checks variables
* Dean Richard Benson [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-03-15 12:36]: Using the most recent version and starting mutt via mutt -y to default to the folder list. It shows me which folders have new mail in with the N character, but this never updates unless I a) exit and restart mutt b) go into a folder and then back to the folder list Is this the expected operation or have a fscked up? :) It's a feature. When you are ready to read new mails then simply give mutt some command like change-folder. Also, there's the sync-mailbox command which forces mutt to update the current mailbox. And then there are these variables for checking for new mail: check_new mail_check pop_checkinterval I'm sure you will be able to make ue of these. but if you need *immediate* notification then check the page in my signature. Sven [updating his text on mut philosophy] -- Sven Guckes [EMAIL PROTECTED] URL: http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/mail/notification.html Mail Notification FAQ - which programs notify you about new mail? Sample setups welcome!
Re: Hook question - making a point
* Jerome De Greef [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-03-16 09:25]: % send-hook '~t .*' 'my_hdr From: JDG [EMAIL PROTECTED]' % send-hook !'~t .*' 'my_hdr From: JDG [EMAIL PROTECTED]' Does this work, or do you think it should? I'd expect that you'd need ..* in your patterns instead of just .* 'cuz the former is one character plus zero or more characters while the latter still accepts none. Perhaps it works simply because there is a To: header to check versus one being absent; in that case, you can probably leave off the asterisk. It works as is. But you're right, I thought .* was doing what ..* does. I'm not that good with regular expressions. BTW, doesn't ..* do the same as .+ ? it depends. really - it all depends on the language you currently have available. The operator '+' might not be available at all. But the usual workaround for 1 or more times of X is to use XX*. Anyway, if you simply need a default rule for all addresses then you need to check for just only character in the address, right? Checking for more is simply superfluous. Also, the pattern in the send-hook command is applied to the addresses in TO/CC, anyway, so all you need is to give part of the address: send-hook . 'my_hdr From: JDG [EMAIL PROTECTED]' send-hook ! . 'my_hdr From: JDG [EMAIL PROTECTED]' this should work. untested, though. Sven [who always sends with a replyable address] -- Sven Guckes [EMAIL PROTECTED] MUTT SETUP TIPS: http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/mutt/setup.html MUTT HOOKS EXAMPLE: send-hook . 'set signature=~/.sig.mine' send-hook guckes 'set signature='
Re: Mutt 1.3.28 + ncurses 5.2 + xterm = blank screen
On Fri, Mar 15, 2002 at 03:40:57PM -0500, Pavel Roskin wrote: Hello! I've compiled mutt-1.3.28i in the default configuration on RedHat Linux 7.2 (i386) with all updates. If I run it in xterm (from XFree86-4.1.0) or in rxvt-2.7.6, it shows a blank screen. I can quit by pressing Ctrl-C and Enter. The same executable runs on the Linux console just fine. what $TERM value? It turns out that the default configuration uses ncurses-5.2. I tried configuring Mutt with slang-1.4.4. It works fine. My guess is that Mutt does something with page switching that the newer versions of ncurses don't like. I believe it's a major bug that will be a frequently asked question as soon as mutt-1.4 is released. I checked the lists to see if it's not already a frequently asked question. There is a very similar description of the problem, except that it's not specific about software versions: http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=mutt-usersm=101062129425997w=2 That doesn't sound the same. The closest I can recall from this list is one that says the pager comes up blank - both ncurses and slang. -- Thomas E. Dickey [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://invisible-island.net ftp://invisible-island.net
Re: Opening html links in text mail
* Dr. Sharukh K. R. Pavri. [EMAIL PROTECTED] [03-16-02 03:51] crowed: On Fri, 15 Mar 2002, David T-G wrote: -- Simon % On an somewhat related note, I have a mutt icon in PNG format which is the % right size for the bottom panel if KDE users want an icon to automatically % launch Mutt (I use xterm -e mutt) from the panel. Oooh! Gimme! me too :-) Got a lot of altitude on this one. May achieve orbit. -- Pat Shanahan Registered Linux User #207535 Registered at: http://counter.li.org 9:06am up 1 day, 11:54, 6 users, load average: 0.01, 0.06, 0.03
Re: Hook question - making a point
* Sven Guckes ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: * Jerome De Greef [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-03-16 09:25]: % send-hook '~t .*' 'my_hdr From: JDG [EMAIL PROTECTED]' % send-hook !'~t .*' 'my_hdr From: JDG [EMAIL PROTECTED]' Does this work, or do you think it should? I'd expect that you'd need ..* in your patterns instead of just .* 'cuz the former is one character plus zero or more characters while the latter still accepts none. Perhaps it works simply because there is a To: header to check versus one being absent; in that case, you can probably leave off the asterisk. It works as is. But you're right, I thought .* was doing what ..* does. I'm not that good with regular expressions. BTW, doesn't ..* do the same as .+ ? it depends. really - it all depends on the language you currently have available. I was talking about Mutt ;) The operator '+' might not be available at all. But the usual workaround for 1 or more times of X is to use XX*. Anyway, if you simply need a default rule for all addresses then you need to check for just only character in the address, right? Checking for more is simply superfluous. Right... Also, the pattern in the send-hook command is applied to the addresses in TO/CC, anyway, so all you need is to give part of the address: send-hook . 'my_hdr From: JDG [EMAIL PROTECTED]' send-hook ! . 'my_hdr From: JDG [EMAIL PROTECTED]' this should work. untested, though. Just tested it and it doesn't work... Jerome -- +---+ | 'the panorama of the city is wrong | | in fact the city seems to be gone!' | | the clash, stop the world, 1980 | +---+
Re: Running stuff on windows (sans install script)
On Sat, Mar 16, 2002 at 02:03:42PM +0900, Jonathan Gardner wrote: Because windows doesn't have an install script that works properly, you may be wondering how to get stuff to work without it. I have found that the binary package from www.python.org has a very good install script, but I can post some explicite info if you want. This is easily done with environmental variables. Set BTTC_ROOT_DIR to the root dir of whichever source you are using. If you have a CVS checkout, set it to the root of that. If you have a downloaded copy, set it to where the files were unzipped. This will allow you to run the bmed, ved, and bttc scripts in the bin directory. (AS a sidenote, I heard that windows has a problem with the scripts not having a .py ending. Any solutions, anyone? I'll do a little research myself.) If you run python explicitly with the script, then you can get away with not having a .py extension. (e.g. c:\python21\python script) You may be better off just adding the extension and associating it to python. If you want to run the scripts individually, you'll need to set PYTHONPATH to the lib directory of whatever you are using. This will let you run a script like lib/battlemech/design.py. Win32 Python by default gets it's PYTHONPATH from the registry. Using a PYTHONPATH environment variable will work, though. -- David Rock [EMAIL PROTECTED] msg25617/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Mutt 1.3.28 + ncurses 5.2 + xterm = blank screen
On Fri, Mar 15, 2002 at 03:40:57PM -0500, Pavel Roskin wrote: Hello! I've compiled mutt-1.3.28i in the default configuration on RedHat Linux 7.2 (i386) with all updates. If I run it in xterm (from XFree86-4.1.0) or in rxvt-2.7.6, it shows a blank screen. I can quit by pressing Ctrl-C and Enter. The same executable runs on the Linux console just fine. It turns out that the default configuration uses ncurses-5.2. I tried configuring Mutt with slang-1.4.4. It works fine. My guess is that Mutt does something with page switching that the newer versions of ncurses don't like. I believe it's a major bug that will be a frequently asked question as soon as mutt-1.4 is released. I checked the lists to see if it's not already a frequently asked question. There is a very similar description of the problem, except that it's not specific about software versions: http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=mutt-usersm=101062129425997w=2 I compiled 1.3.28 on RH 7.2 with ncurses-5.2.12 and XFree86-4.1.0-3 and mutt works fine in xterm, gnome-terminal and Konsole. My $TERM is set to xterm. My compile options are: Mutt 1.3.28i (2002-03-13) Copyright (C) 1996-2001 Michael R. Elkins and others. Mutt comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY; for details type `mutt -vv'. Mutt is free software, and you are welcome to redistribute it under certain conditions; type `mutt -vv' for details. System: Linux 2.4.9-31 (i586) [using ncurses 5.2] Compile options: -DOMAIN -DEBUG -HOMESPOOL +USE_SETGID +USE_DOTLOCK +DL_STANDALONE +USE_FCNTL -USE_FLOCK -USE_POP -USE_IMAP -USE_GSS -USE_SSL -USE_SASL +HAVE_REGCOMP -USE_GNU_REGEX +HAVE_COLOR +HAVE_START_COLOR +HAVE_TYPEAHEAD +HAVE_BKGDSET +HAVE_CURS_SET +HAVE_META +HAVE_RESIZETERM +HAVE_PGP -BUFFY_SIZE -EXACT_ADDRESS -SUN_ATTACHMENT +ENABLE_NLS -LOCALES_HACK +HAVE_WC_FUNCS +HAVE_LANGINFO_CODESET ++HAVE_LANGINFO_YESEXPR +HAVE_ICONV -ICONV_NONTRANS +HAVE_GETSID -HAVE_GETADDRINFO ISPELL=/usr/bin/ispell SENDMAIL=/usr/sbin/sendmail MAILPATH=/var/spool/mail PKGDATADIR=/usr/share/mutt SYSCONFDIR=/etc EXECSHELL=/bin/sh MIXMASTER=/home/ken/Mix -- Ken Wahl [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.kenwahl.org/ PGP/GPG Public Key at http://www.kenwahl.org/pubkey.gpg Meme Propagation Engine (MindSec) [NSA] version 7.34-12i Weaponized Linux Kernel 2.4.9-31 Uptime Is 8 days 17:39
Re: Hook question - making a point
* Jerome De Greef [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-03-16 14:11]: BTW, doesn't ..* do the same as .+ ? it depends. really - it all depends on the language you currently have available. I was talking about Mutt ;) So was I. more specifically, I was talking about the regular expression library used within mutt. send-hook . 'my_hdr From: JDG [EMAIL PROTECTED]' send-hook ! . 'my_hdr From: JDG [EMAIL PROTECTED]' this should work. untested, though. Just tested it and it doesn't work... hmm.. the pattern might need quoting: send-hook ! . 'my_hdr From: JDG [EMAIL PROTECTED]' try again. does it work now? Sven
Re: Hook question
* Jerome De Greef [EMAIL PROTECTED], 2002-03-15 08:20 -0500: send-hook '~t .*' 'my_hdr From: Jerome De Greef [EMAIL PROTECTED]' send-hook !'~t .*' 'my_hdr From: Jerome De Greef[EMAIL PROTECTED]' The first hook is used whenever I hit 'r' and there is a 'To:' line followed by any address. The second hook is used when I hit 'F' (newsgroup followup). It matches any 'To:' line where the address is not anything... thus matching no 'To:' line at all. I would like to set my Bcc headers on that basis, but it seems to work randomly only! send-hook '~t .*' 'my_hdr Bcc: mymail' send-hook !'~t .*' 'unmy_hdr Bcc' I would be very happy if anyone could tell me what to do in order to turn off my Bcc header automatically when posting. -Andre msg25620/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: POP New Messages
On Sat, Mar 16, 2002 at 12:05:40AM -0800, Jerry Van Brimmer wrote: OK, I'll bite. How do you tell fetchmail to download only new mail? from `man fetchmail`: Disposal Options -a, --all (Keyword: fetchall) Retrieve both old (seen) and new messages from the mailserver. The default is to fetch only messages the server has not marked seen. Under POP3, this option also forces the use of RETR rather than TOP. Note that POP2 retrieval behaves as though --all is always on (see RETRIEVAL FAILURE MODES below) and this option does not work with ETRN or ODMR. so by default, only new messages are downloaded, unless you use the -a, --all, or the 'fetchall' option. :) Dan -- Dan Boger Linux MVP brainbench.com msg25621/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: unsubscribing
On Fri, Mar 15, 2002 at 07:03:37PM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have just subscribed using a new email address but can't get the old address unsubscribed, which is still forwarded to me, so I get two copies of each msg. I've tried changing the 'From:' line in mutt to the old subscription address but the mailing list manager won't accept it. I don't know how the list is set up, but it's majordomo, so... Send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the following in the body: unsubscribe mutt-users email-address Depending on the policy set by the list administrator, this may o work automatically (unlikely) o require you to respond to a confirmation mail containing a special code o require the list administrator to approve your unsubscription manually o both of the above. If you're still stuck, there should always be a real person at [EMAIL PROTECTED] (assuming the list is set up correctly) with the relevant password to be able to remove you manually. HTH... -- David SmithWork Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] STMicroelectronics Home Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bristol, England
Re: unsubscribing
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Said John Poltorak on Fri, Mar 15, 2002 at 07:03:37PM +: I have just subscribed using a new email address but can't get the old address unsubscribed, which is still forwarded to me, so I get two copies of each msg. I've tried changing the 'From:' line in mutt to the old subscription address but the mailing list manager won't accept it. What can I do? As well as changing the 'From:' header, try temporarily setting $envelope_from as well. - -- [!] Justin R. Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP 0xC9C40C31 -=- http://codesorcery.net http://www.cnn.com/2002/ALLPOLITICS/01/29/inv.terror.probe/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8k5Ne94d6K8nEDDERAkNXAJ96n90toLo3EfO4sb/obuWATTbvogCffxv9 PN1WfuRe8VK48UGb6bj6Pjw= =SNhw -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Hook question - describe your problem!
* Andre Berger [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-03-16 18:34]: I would like to set my Bcc headers on that basis, but it seems to work randomly only! send-hook '~t .*' 'my_hdr Bcc: mymail' send-hook !'~t .*' 'unmy_hdr Bcc' I would be very happy if anyone could tell me what to do in order to turn off my Bcc header automatically when posting. send-hook . unmy_hdr * this should turn off *all* extra headers. set now set your BCC header as you need. btw, your first send-hook reads like this: When TO contains an address of arbitrary length then set the following BCC line. And the length can be ZERO, too! Get to know your regular expressions! (And next time start a new thread, ok?) I think it's time for a workshop on regex here in Berlin.. Anyway, you did not describe what the hooks shall do. And it's a waste of time trying to guess it. Sven [read da book! see sig..] -- Title: Mastering Regular Expressions Author:Jeffrey Friedl [EMAIL PROTECTED] Publisher: O'Reilly, 1997, 1-56592-257-3 URL: http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/regex/
Re: Hook question - describe your problem!
* Sven Guckes [EMAIL PROTECTED], 2002-03-16 20:26 -0500: * Andre Berger [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-03-16 18:34]: I would like to set my Bcc headers on that basis, but it seems to work randomly only! send-hook '~t .*' 'my_hdr Bcc: mymail' send-hook !'~t .*' 'unmy_hdr Bcc' I would be very happy if anyone could tell me what to do in order to turn off my Bcc header automatically when posting. send-hook . unmy_hdr * this should turn off *all* extra headers. set now set your BCC header as you need. btw, your first send-hook reads like this: When TO contains an address of arbitrary length then set the following BCC line. And the length can be ZERO, too! Get to know your regular expressions! (And next time start a new thread, ok?) I think it's time for a workshop on regex here in Berlin.. Anyway, you did not describe what the hooks shall do. And it's a waste of time trying to guess it. Sven, thank you very much for your response and your time. What I'm trying to accomplish is more or less the same Jerome (the original poster) wants. We use mutt with nntp-patch and want to set headers according to the fact if we are mailing or posting. Jerome came up with the solution above which indeed works for From-headers, but not really (read: consistantly) for Bcc-headers, at least for me. What I want is to test if there is a To-header or not - if there is one, I'm mailing, if there is none, I'm posting. If I'm mailing, add a Bcc header (I'm Bccing all mail to myself to keep track of it). If not, do not add this header because this results in an ugly To: undiclosed recipients ; line in my postings. I've tried an otherwise empty .muttrc file and send-hook . unmy_hdr * send-hook '~t ..*' 'my_hdr Bcc: mail' send-hook !'~t ..*' 'my_hdr Bcc: news' Testing the settings: 1. (mail) no bcc 2. (mail) bcc: mail 3. (news) bcc: mail 4. (news) bcc: news So it seems to work, but the send-hook is one message late. -Andre msg25625/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Installing Mutt - Can't fix mutt_dotlock's permissions
When installing Mutt in my home directory, I get the following error: chgrp: changing group of `/home/lefevre/bin/mutt_dotlock': Operation not permitted Can't fix mutt_dotlock's permissions! make[2]: *** [install-exec-local] Error 1 make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/lefevre/software/mutt/mutt' make[1]: *** [install-am] Error 2 make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/lefevre/software/mutt/mutt' make: *** [install-recursive] Error 1 This is normal, but anyway, mutt_dotlock is already installed in /usr/bin. In fact, I just want to install the mutt binary. The problem is that Mutt has installed a mutt_dotlock with incorrect permissions in my home directory. I think that if it can't set the correct permissions, it shouldn't install mutt_dotlock. -- Vincent Lefèvre [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Web: http://www.vinc17.org/ - 100% validated (X)HTML - Acorn Risc PC, Yellow Pig 17, Championnat International des Jeux Mathématiques et Logiques, TETRHEX, etc. Work: CR INRIA - computer arithmetic / SPACES project at LORIA
