Re: sendmail?

2008-12-27 Thread David Maus
On 27. Dec 2008 04:34, zirath wrote: Is there a way to set up mutt to send mail directly from our dynamic dsl address rather than thru the provider's mail server? As far as I know: no. Mutt is a MUA (Mail User Agent) what basically means it's responsibility for sending mails ends when it

Re: sendmail?

2008-12-27 Thread bill lam
On Sat, 27 Dec 2008, David Maus wrote: So you *could* set up such software on your box that does the delivery but you probably wouldn't be happy with this solution as some mail providers do not accept delivery attempts from dynamic ip addresses for spam prevention. More specifically, it

Re: sendmail?

2008-12-27 Thread jkinz
On Sat, Dec 27, 2008 at 04:34:03AM -0500, zirath wrote: Is there a way to set up mutt to send mail directly from our dynamic dsl address rather than thru the provider's mail server? Yes, there is a way. You set up Sendmail or some other MTA to accept mail from mutt. If that is all you do, It

Re: sendmail?

2008-12-27 Thread Sahil Tandon
bill lam wrote: On Sat, 27 Dec 2008, David Maus wrote: So you *could* set up such software on your box that does the delivery but you probably wouldn't be happy with this solution as some mail providers do not accept delivery attempts from dynamic ip addresses for spam prevention.

Re: sendmail?

2008-12-27 Thread jkinz
On Sat, Dec 27, 2008 at 11:22:08AM -0500, Sahil Tandon wrote: bill lam wrote: On Sat, 27 Dec 2008, David Maus wrote: So you *could* set up such software on your box that does the delivery but you probably wouldn't be happy with this solution as some mail providers do not accept

Re: sendmail?

2008-12-27 Thread Sahil Tandon
jk...@kinz.org wrote: On Sat, Dec 27, 2008 at 11:22:08AM -0500, Sahil Tandon wrote: bill lam wrote: On Sat, 27 Dec 2008, David Maus wrote: So you *could* set up such software on your box that does the delivery but you probably wouldn't be happy with this solution as some mail

Re: sendmail?

2008-12-27 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2008-12-27, Sahil Tandon sa...@tandon.net wrote: jk...@kinz.org wrote: [...] you do not need an MX record to send or receive mail. True, but many email systems will no longer accept email that comes from a system/address with no valid MX record. Yet another spam defense technique. As a

Re: sendmail?

2008-12-27 Thread Anders Rayner-Karlsson
* jk...@kinz.org jk...@kinz.org [20081227 17:40]: On Sat, Dec 27, 2008 at 11:22:08AM -0500, Sahil Tandon wrote: bill lam wrote: On Sat, 27 Dec 2008, David Maus wrote: So you *could* set up such software on your box that does the delivery but you probably wouldn't be happy

Re: sendmail?

2008-12-27 Thread Sahil Tandon
Anders Rayner-Karlsson wrote: To require a MX to point back to the sending host before accepting mail is IMHO disingenious. If it causes legit e-mail to disappear - it's bad. Thank you, this is *precisely* my point. :-) -- Sahil Tandon sa...@tandon.net

Re: sendmail?

2008-12-27 Thread Sahil Tandon
Grant Edwards wrote: This is also false. I used to have mail rejected because the sending domain didn't have an MX record. After I set up my MX record, those systems that used to reject mail started to accept mail. This anecdote based on your experience does not mean it is a requirement

Have mutt automatically run a script at startup?

2008-12-27 Thread Chris Jones
On Thu, Dec 25, 2008 at 09:14:02PM EST, Kyle Wheeler wrote: On Thursday, December 25 at 07:56 PM, quoth Chris Jones: `ls /tmp/ls` .. in my .muttrc .. and despite an error message to the effect that the command doesn't exist .. it actually works. The reason it generates the error is

Re: sendmail?

2008-12-27 Thread zirath
Grant Edwards wrote: On 2008-12-27, Sahil Tandon sa...@tandon.net wrote: jk...@kinz.org wrote: [...] you do not need an MX record to send or receive mail. True, but many email systems will no longer accept email that comes from a system/address with no valid MX record. Yet

Re: sendmail?

2008-12-27 Thread Sahil Tandon
zirath wrote: Grant Edwards wrote: On 2008-12-27, Sahil Tandon sa...@tandon.net wrote: jk...@kinz.org wrote: [...] you do not need an MX record to send or receive mail. True, but many email systems will no longer accept email that comes from a system/address with no

Re: sendmail?

2008-12-27 Thread jkinz
On Sat, Dec 27, 2008 at 06:55:26PM -0500, Sahil Tandon wrote: jk...@kinz.org wrote: On Sat, Dec 27, 2008 at 01:33:47PM -0500, Sahil Tandon wrote: jkinz mentioned the connecting system; that is to say, the connecting client. That client needn't be the MX for the domain from which email

Re: sendmail?

2008-12-27 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2008-12-27, Sahil Tandon sa...@tandon.net wrote: Grant Edwards wrote: This is also false. I used to have mail rejected because the sending domain didn't have an MX record. After I set up my MX record, those systems that used to reject mail started to accept mail. This anecdote based

Re: sendmail?

2008-12-27 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2008-12-27, Sahil Tandon sa...@tandon.net wrote: jk...@kinz.org wrote: On Sat, Dec 27, 2008 at 01:33:47PM -0500, Sahil Tandon wrote: jkinz mentioned the connecting system; that is to say, the connecting client. That client needn't be the MX for the domain from which email is arriving.

Re: sendmail?

2008-12-27 Thread Sahil
On Dec 27, 2008, at 7:10 PM, jk...@kinz.org wrote: On Sat, Dec 27, 2008 at 06:55:26PM -0500, Sahil Tandon wrote: jk...@kinz.org wrote: On Sat, Dec 27, 2008 at 01:33:47PM -0500, Sahil Tandon wrote: jkinz mentioned the connecting system; that is to say, the connecting client. That client