Re: Test number two - spaces

2018-10-27 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2018-10-27 18:23, Claus Assmann wrote:

> Just FYI: both test mails passed verification for me.

RGH!!  I am losing my mind!!

Here are the intermediate Received headers of the 2nd test mail as it
came back to me.  Can you share the ones in your copy?

  Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1])
  by fraxinus.osuosl.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1C788647F;
  Sun, 28 Oct 2018 00:22:33 + (UTC)
  X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at osuosl.org
  Received: from fraxinus.osuosl.org ([127.0.0.1])
  by localhost (.osuosl.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024)
  with ESMTP id Ml_6-3RG8bAN; Sun, 28 Oct 2018 00:22:33 + (UTC)
  Received: from ash.osuosl.org (ash.osuosl.org [140.211.166.34])
  by fraxinus.osuosl.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3765E85F89;
  Sun, 28 Oct 2018 00:22:33 + (UTC)
  X-Original-To: mutt-users@mutt.org
  Delivered-To: mutt-us...@osuosl.org
  Received: from silver.osuosl.org (smtp3.osuosl.org [140.211.166.136])
   by ash.osuosl.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10D901BF2F0
   for ; Sun, 28 Oct 2018 00:22:32 + (UTC)
  Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1])
   by silver.osuosl.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E833220C2
   for ; Sun, 28 Oct 2018 00:22:32 + (UTC)
  X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at osuosl.org
  Received: from silver.osuosl.org ([127.0.0.1])
   by localhost (.osuosl.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024)
   with ESMTP id IzrZogh12v0Z for ;
   Sun, 28 Oct 2018 00:22:31 + (UTC)
  X-Greylist: from auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.6

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Re: Test number two - spaces

2018-10-27 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2018-10-27 17:19, Ian Zimmerman wrote:

> Ok, that worked.  Now let's try this: 
> This line ends with a couple of dangling spaces.
> 
> Now _that_ would be really stupid!

And so it is - that one failed :-(

The best available conclusion is that at one the the hops on osuosl.org,
mails get rewritten in a way similar to what I described at the link
below.

https://very.loosely.org/itz-blog/the-problem-with-gpg-signatures.html

Which is depressing because the software involved seems to be all FOSS -
mailman, postfix and amavis.  Should I guess which one is responsible?

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Re: Test number two - spaces

2018-10-27 Thread Claus Assmann
On Sun, Oct 28, 2018, Ken Moffat wrote:

> 3. Neither the post you were asking about, nor either of your tests,
> passed verification here.

Just FYI: both test mails passed verification for me.


Re: Test number two - spaces

2018-10-27 Thread Ken Moffat
On Sat, Oct 27, 2018 at 05:19:23PM -0700, Ian Zimmerman wrote:
> On 2018-10-27 16:53, Ian Zimmerman wrote:
> 
> > > Oh, I feel the itch again.  Ow-ow, it's unbearable!  I must scratch,
> > > 
> > > Has anyone tried to verify Derek's GPG signature on his message?
> > 
> > Checking, checking, checking gently,
> > Why it fails, that beats me.
> > Bad sigs rub so unpleasantly.
> > Let us check my own sweet key.
> 
> Ok, that worked.  Now let's try this: 
> This line ends with a couple of dangling spaces.
> 
> Now _that_ would be really stupid!
> 
For the *very* little it is worth:

1. On lkml I typically get successful and failed verifications from
the same people.

2. On the few occasions I have bothered to sign posts, the list copy
that comes back to me fails to verify.

3. Neither the post you were asking about, nor either of your tests,
passed verification here.

/me wonders why I ever bothered to set up a key, since it wastes
time when reading lists, and only randomly works. ;-)

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Re: Test number two - spaces

2018-10-27 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2018-10-27 16:53, Ian Zimmerman wrote:

> > Oh, I feel the itch again.  Ow-ow, it's unbearable!  I must scratch,
> > 
> > Has anyone tried to verify Derek's GPG signature on his message?
> 
> Checking, checking, checking gently,
> Why it fails, that beats me.
> Bad sigs rub so unpleasantly.
> Let us check my own sweet key.

Ok, that worked.  Now let's try this: 
This line ends with a couple of dangling spaces.

Now _that_ would be really stupid!

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Test number one - single part, just ascii [Was: sigs again]

2018-10-27 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2018-10-27 10:25, Ian Zimmerman wrote:

> Oh, I feel the itch again.  Ow-ow, it's unbearable!  I must scratch,
> 
> Has anyone tried to verify Derek's GPG signature on his message?

Checking, checking, checking gently,
Why it fails, that beats me.
Bad sigs rub so unpleasantly.
Let us check my own sweet key.

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sigs again [Was: Composing in utf8 from latin1 terminal]

2018-10-27 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2018-10-25 13:06, Derek Martin wrote:

> Derek D. Martinhttp://www.pizzashack.org/   GPG Key ID: 0xDFBEAD02

Oh, I feel the itch again.  Ow-ow, it's unbearable!  I must scratch,

Has anyone tried to verify Derek's GPG signature on his message?

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Re: SMTP error from remote mail server after RCPT TO:

2018-10-27 Thread Matthias Apitz
El día viernes, octubre 26, 2018 a las 03:47:03p. m. -0500, Hokan escribió:

> This rejection is the result of the "percent hack" implimented on
> sendmail, postfix and, perhaps, other mail servers.
> 
> Nothing to do with Mutt.

Yes, it's a bit off-topic. And, thanks for the pointer to that "percent hack"
I will look for its explanation. Interestingly the mail is accepted and
delivered when I send to

jW-Leserini Verteil 

Thanks again

matthias


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