Delete mailbox over imaps
When in the folder browser, connected via imaps, I find that I cannot delete folders. Mutt gives the error: Delete is only supported for IMAP. Is this the expected behaviour? I'd think that imaps should work just as imap, only over ssl :) -- Dan Boger [EMAIL PROTECTED] msg30427/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: mailbox limitation
On Wed, Aug 21, 2002 at 04:06:13PM +0400, Oleg Lukashin wrote: How many messages can normally display/work with mutt ? I've used mailboxes with over 50,000 messages with no problem at all. A bit slot to open (depending on the machine of course), but quite usable. -- Dan Boger [EMAIL PROTECTED] msg30402/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: mutt and mail archives
On Wed, Aug 21, 2002 at 11:06:42AM -0300, Fernan Aguero wrote: Now my question is, in the event I need to access/search this archives is mutt able to read compressed files? If so, what would be the recommended storage (so that mutt will read them later)? there is a compressed-folder patch, linked from mutt.org - I've used it successfully for a few years now :) HTH! -- Dan Boger [EMAIL PROTECTED] msg30408/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: muttprofile (new)
On Wed, Jul 31, 2002 at 12:30:52PM +0200, Rocco Rutte wrote: Hi, * Rikard Florin [02-07-31 12:17:50 +0200] wrote: http://ratblast.net/muttprofile Perl, how cool is that! I'm planning to start a project (on sourceforge or whereever) which just bundles a few but very useful (preferebly perl) scripts dealing with .muttrc. Some alias conversion scripts, muttrc2html, maybe muttrcbuilder and the like. A script dealing with profiles would perfectly fit in my ideas. Interested? Anyone else interested in hacking some perl? I'm always interested in hacking perl :) -- Dan Boger [EMAIL PROTECTED] msg29977/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: filtering mailbox
On Mon, Jul 22, 2002 at 05:37:58PM +0200, Hans Ginzel wrote: Hello, I have a mailbox with ~1 mails, most of them are duplicated. How can I delete the duplicities? Manualy it can be done by sorting mails by date, go from top and most every second mail delete. Can it be done in batch? even better - D~= and you're done :) -- Dan Boger [EMAIL PROTECTED] msg29809/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: quoting doesn't work in send-hook command
On Thu, Jul 11, 2002 at 11:01:40AM -0700, David Benfell wrote: Actually, it did, but only on the second attempt. I'm guessing that mutt is applying the send-hooks before asking who I'm addressing the e-mail to. Which at least is a different problem. How do I fix this one? from the manual: Note: the send-hook's are only executed ONCE after getting the initial list of recipients. Adding a recipient after replying or editing the message will NOT cause any send-hook to be executed. Also note that my_hdr commands which modify recipient headers, or the message's subject, don't have any effect on the current message when executed from a send-hook. so it's supposed to run AFTER getting the addressees. I think what you see if the my_hdr clause, saying a send-hook cannot apply a my_hdr command to the current message. The only way I know to get around this is to either set up folder-hooks, or macros to apply the changes before the msg is composed. -- Dan Boger [EMAIL PROTECTED] msg29546/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: displaying folder name in xterm title
On Thu, Jul 04, 2002 at 03:36:20PM +0200, Martin Man wrote: is there a way to change xterm's title according to the folder currently opened in a mutt so that it updates correctly whenever the folder inside of mutt is changed? yup - look at the xtitle patch, linked from the mutt.org patches page: http://www.robots.ox.ac.uk/~neil/mutt/ -- Dan Boger [EMAIL PROTECTED] msg29378/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: random header script?
On Thu, Jun 20, 2002 at 02:49:37PM -0600, Rob 'Feztaa' Park wrote: This is trivial to do in perl: open FILE, file.txt; while (FILE) { push lines, $_; } print $lines[int(rand(lines))]; or, the more efficient way: open FILE, file.txt or die $!; rand($.) 1 ($line = $_) while FILE; close FILE; print $line; from perldoc -q random :) -- Dan Boger Linux MVP brainbench.com msg29098/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: 3 quick questions
On Thu, Jun 06, 2002 at 04:14:30PM -0400, Kevin Coyner wrote: 1. Where do D (deleted) msgs go? Is there an equivalent of trash, or am I truly out of the disneyland GUI world now and just like using rm on files, there's no going back. of course they're truly deleted... I mean, if I wanted mutt to move them to, say, a Trash folder, I'd save them there myself! But mutt being so nice, you can make a macro, so that D will do s=Trash\n instead of actually deleting the message. 2. When I'm in the index mode with all mail listed and I've marked a bunch with D, is there a keystroke command that will flush out all of the D items so there's only N or O mail in there? yup - '$' by default, I believe. Look for 'sync-mailbox' in the manual. 3. This is the question that bothers me most: Let's say I have three email POP3 email accounts on three different ISP/domains. I've got fetchmail set up to fetch from all three. But what I can't figure out is how I can, on the fly, select any one of these accounts to be my From: and Reply-to: address. Presently I have my .muttrc setup with set from = [EMAIL PROTECTED] and this has each and every msg going out with that From address. But there are times when I need to use one of those other two addresses in the From header. I tried setting 'set alternates = the other accts', but that didn't seem to do it. So some general guidance would be appreciated here. I'm getting the feeling I'll need to use hooks, but I haven't quite figured all that out yet. this is really a FAQ, and if we have a canned answer for this question, I'd love the pointer... You can use *-hooks, if you always want to send from a certain folder as a certain address, or when replying to certain emails. What I use though is a bunch of macros, that will change my current setup, so that every message from now on will be sent as a new profile... so something like (from memory, untested): macro index F5 ':set [EMAIL PROTECTED]\n:set signature=~/.sig-addr' macro index F6 ':set [EMAIL PROTECTED]\n:set signature=~/.sig-addr2' etc... HTH! -- Dan Boger [EMAIL PROTECTED] msg28694/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: IMAP uses SSL even when not requested
On Tue, Jun 04, 2002 at 11:55:28AM -0500, David Champion wrote: needed for connecting securely to servers that don't accept connections on the imaps port, but instead support the STARTTLS extension on the normal imap port. You can likely disable this feature with set ssl_starttls=no. Yes, exactly -- it should never use SSL when told not to, but setting ssl_starttls is equivalent to telling mutt to use TLS when available. you mean it should always use SSL unless not told to, right? I still can't think of a single reason (aside from testing) that you will prefer the plaintext over SSL, by default. -- Dan Boger [EMAIL PROTECTED] msg28588/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: folder-hooks
On Fri, May 31, 2002 at 02:27:09PM +0200, Rocco Rutte wrote: I have a problem with a folder-hook. Say, I've got three folders IN.back1, IN.back2 and IN.test. If I want to take some action for all folders except IN.back1 I use: folder-hook =IN\.[^b][^a][^c][^k][^1] ... The problem is that mutt doesn't apply it to IN.test. I guess that for IN.test it checks if the first 5 characters after IN. are not one of b,a,c,k,1 - but 'test' is only 4 long. I guess that's the reason why it fails in this special case while it works for all other folder names longer or equal to 5 characters after IN.. sounds to me that it's doing exactly what you told it to... match any folder that begins with an IN., followed by 5 chars that are not (in order) b a c k 1 - and you're right - since test is only 4 characters, it doesn't match the not 1 section. I think you might be better off making a general folder hook (that will match back1 as well), then adding another folder hook (after? before?) that will deal with the special case. HTH! -- Dan Boger Linux MVP brainbench.com msg28424/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: folder-hooks
On Fri, May 31, 2002 at 08:23:14AM -0500, David T-G wrote: Have you tried [^b][^a][^c][^k][^1]* to match zero or more not-ones? can't use that to negate a 1 in the 5th position... test1 would match because it would match 0 '1's in the 5th position, followed by a '1'... if you get my meaning... just occured to me that this won't match back2 either, since it starts with a b... -- Dan Boger Linux MVP brainbench.com msg28428/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: folder-hooks
On Fri, May 31, 2002 at 08:39:20AM -0500, David T-G wrote: % just occured to me that this won't match back2 either, since it starts % with a b... Yeah, that's another problem that occurred to me after posting. I had the same sort of problem with $alternates; I'd really like to be able to say something like set alternates = [^(laura*|madi|^quin*)]@justpickone.* what we need is like the perl lookbehind: (?!pattern) A zero-width negative lookbehind assertion. For example /(?!bar)foo/ matches any occurrence of foo that isn't following bar. Works only for fixed-width lookbehind. so you could do set alternates =(?!laura|madi|quin)justpickone but note that I had to remove the * (which I think were supposed to be .*) - since it only works for a fixed-width string... another by the way - having a trailing .* is a nop, just eats cpu cycles (in a patterm match)... :) -- Dan Boger Linux MVP brainbench.com msg28430/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: folder-hook and push conflicts with imap?
On Sat, May 25, 2002 at 01:41:03AM +0200, Sven Guckes wrote: * Dan Boger [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-05-22 15:58]: is there a way to do what I want to happen (automagically delete dups in each folder) without using push? procmail - message id cache - nuff said. Sven -- # Block duplicate messages that you receive when someone CCs you # on a reply to a mailing list that you are subscribed to. :0: Wh: msgid.lock | formail -D 8192 msgid.cache actually, I already have that. however, that won't solve my problem, since what I have is an IMAP mailbox that many users can save messages too... often, the same message. while I think some magic with formail can remove dups, I like the idea of it happening when I look at the mailbox... -- Dan Boger [EMAIL PROTECTED] msg28331/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: folder-hook and push conflicts with imap?
On Wed, May 22, 2002 at 05:07:01PM +0200, Sven Guckes wrote: * Dan Boger [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-05-21 12:10]: set spoolfile=imaps://user@box/ folder-hook . 'push delete-pattern~=\n' -- Password for userdelete-pattern~=@box: which of course, fails to log me in. This is a bug with the folder hook, right? it probably shouldn't be run until _after_ the login completes... exactly. it's a feature. you get the password prompt - and you automatically answer it by typing in some text. so it's you who did not get the context right. pilot error. dependencies like these *could* be timed with an internal language. but there is none. anyway, i don't use push at all because you can always run into dependency problem like these. hmmm... is there a way to do what I want to happen (automagically delete dups in each folder) without using push? -- Dan Boger [EMAIL PROTECTED] msg28286/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
folder-hook and push conflicts with imap?
here's a weird error I ran into... I have the following settings: set spoolfile=imaps://user@box/ folder-hook . 'push delete-pattern~=\n' now, when I start up mutt, instead of being prompted for the password for my account, I just get an error (login failed, I think). So I tried mutt -f imaps://box/ and got the following: Password for userdelete-pattern~=@box: which of course, fails to log me in. This is a bug with the folder hook, right? it probably shouldn't be run until _after_ the login completes... or am I missing something obvious? Mutt 1.3.28i (2002-03-13) Copyright (C) 1996-2001 Michael R. Elkins and others. Mutt comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY; for details type `mutt -vv'. Mutt is free software, and you are welcome to redistribute it under certain conditions; type `mutt -vv' for details. System: Linux 2.4.18 (i586) [using ncurses 4.0] Compile options: -DOMAIN -DEBUG -HOMESPOOL +USE_SETGID +USE_DOTLOCK +DL_STANDALONE +USE_FCNTL -USE_FLOCK -USE_POP +USE_NNTP +USE_IMAP -USE_GSS +USE_SSL -USE_SASL +HAVE_REGCOMP -USE_GNU_REGEX +HAVE_COLOR +HAVE_START_COLOR +HAVE_TYPEAHEAD +HAVE_BKGDSET +HAVE_CURS_SET +HAVE_META +HAVE_RESIZETERM +HAVE_PGP -BUFFY_SIZE -EXACT_ADDRESS -SUN_ATTACHMENT +ENABLE_NLS -LOCALES_HACK +COMPRESSED +HAVE_WC_FUNCS +HAVE_LANGINFO_CODESET +HAVE_LANGINFO_YESEXPR +HAVE_ICONV -ICONV_NONTRANS +HAVE_GETSID +HAVE_GETADDRINFO ISPELL=/usr/bin/ispell SENDMAIL=/usr/sbin/sendmail MAILPATH=/var/spool/mail PKGDATADIR=/usr/local/share/mutt SYSCONFDIR=/usr/local/etc EXECSHELL=/bin/sh -MIXMASTER To contact the developers, please mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]. To report a bug, please use the flea(1) utility. vvv.nntp patch-1.3.28.rr.compressed.1 patch-1.2.xtitles.1 -- Dan Boger [EMAIL PROTECTED] msg28250/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: managing two accounts on same imap-server
On Fri, May 10, 2002 at 10:47:07PM +0200, Tobias Kirchhofer wrote: macro index F7 copy-message=imap:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/Inbox\n 'Copy message to =imap:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/Inbox' Error-message: imap_copy_messages [a0008 NO Error in IMAP command received by server.]? NO Error? It works if i copy a message manually: C imap:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/Inbox Password for [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I see a difference - '=imap://...' and 'imap://...' - try removing the '=' from the macro. -- Dan Boger Linux MVP brainbench.com msg27967/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
ailasing mailboxes
Is it possible to alias a mailbox? I often need to save messages to a remote IMAP box... example... my mail is all stored in imaps://dan@localhost/... once in a while, I need to save a message to imaps://user@localhost/path/to/box typing it manually every time is no fun... but what other options do I have? do I need to write macros for saving a message, saving all tagged messages, changing to that folder, etc? is there no way to magically make mbx always expand to imaps://... in every prompt? I'm not asking for much, am I? *grin* -- Dan Boger [EMAIL PROTECTED] msg27922/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: PGP signature verification
On Mon, Apr 22, 2002 at 11:32:15PM +0200, Rocco Rutte wrote: I'm interested in what others get to find out wether it's a general problem or something is wrong with my modified version of mutt. nope, happens to me too - only slightly modified version - vvv.nntp and compressed patch, is all, I think... -- Dan Boger [EMAIL PROTECTED] msg27543/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Organizing mailfolders (strategies and using with mutt)
On Thu, Apr 11, 2002 at 02:32:11PM +0200, Kai Weber wrote: But Mutt seems to have problems recognizing new mails in these folders if I specify mailboxes like that: mailboxes `find Mail -type f` What's wrong with that and how should i tune my settings? could it be that you're specifying your mailboxes relative to your homedirectory, but not starting mutt from there? try mailboxes `find ~/Mail -type f` HTH! -- Dan Boger Linux MVP brainbench.com msg27025/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Feature request: uncolor not only in index
On Thu, Apr 11, 2002 at 11:54:49AM -0400, darren chamberlain wrote: That being said, I would really like such an uncolor feature myself. I receive internal newsletters that I find easier to read if I highlight the section headings like this: display-hook '~s blips' 'push /\^[A-Z0-9][A-Z0-9 [:punct:]]*$^M' These highlights disappear, however, whenever I search for something. Being able to color and uncolor patterns in the pager would be a good solution. Where does display-hook come from? I just built 1.3.28 and use 1.3.22.1 regularly and neither has it. I'm assuming it comes from a patch, but which one? I _think_ it's actually a message-hook? -- Dan Boger [EMAIL PROTECTED] msg27054/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: IMAP browsing
On Wed, Apr 10, 2002 at 04:21:45PM +0200, Michal 'hramrach' Suchanek wrote: I think it would be a good idea if c gave me folder tree of my current account and not local folders. ie if I am viewing somebody@somewhere/INBOX c should give me imap://somebody@somewhere/, not ~/Mail (or whatever). The annoying behavior is observed in mutt-1.3.27i-4mdk. Or is there a simple way of browsing my IMAP account I have overlooked? Or prehaps there is a -devel list where this should be posted? PS: I have no idea if I am currently subscribed there is an easy way to do it... go to the folder browser (ctab by default), then hit c and enter the path to your imap server imaps://dan@localhost/... I can now browse my IMAP folders. I believe there's an setting you can tweak to get this by default, but too lazy to look it up now... I'd guess it'd be folders or something similar. :) -- Dan Boger Linux MVP brainbench.com msg26981/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: imap behavior
On Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 09:10:17AM -0500, David T-G wrote: Same here, and I'm only on mbox :-) I'd probably use IMAP more except for the bit where I can't go back and mark a message 'N'ew again :-( why not? works for me... The only time I wished for a trash box was when I notied a lot of times I delete a message without reading it (from one of the lists), and notice that I actually did want to read it (while it was syncing)... but for that, I just created a mail.today box, and a mail.yesterday - that keeps all the mail I get in the past two days... :) -- Dan Boger [EMAIL PROTECTED] msg26918/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: imap behavior
On Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 09:27:10AM -0500, David T-G wrote: % On Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 09:10:17AM -0500, David T-G wrote: % Same here, and I'm only on mbox :-) I'd probably use IMAP more except % for the bit where I can't go back and mark a message 'N'ew again :-( % % why not? works for me... The only time I wished for a trash box was Why not live without the 'N'ew flag? Because I want it, of course. Or am I missing your point? yes, you are :) why can't you go back and mark a message 'N' again? -- Dan Boger [EMAIL PROTECTED] msg26920/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: imap behavior
On Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 09:42:02AM -0500, David T-G wrote: I telnetted to my imap port and simply got [zero] [9:39am] ~ telnet localhost 143 Trying 127.0.0.1... Connected to localhost. Escape character is '^]'. * OK localhost IMAP4rev1 v12.264 server ready ^] telnet qui Connection closed. so I don't know for sure what IMAP server we're running. It's not worth further checking unless my understanding is out of date or otherwise incorrect, though. You can write the 'N'ew flag back to your mailbox? I think that's the WU IMAP implementation... I think that, because that's what I run, and my header is * OK [CAPABILITY IMAP4REV1 LOGIN-REFERRALS STARTTLS LOGINDISABLED] localhost.localdomain IMAP4rev1 2001.315 at Tue, 9 Apr 2002 10:45:50 -0400 (EDT) (LOGINDISABLED because it's not a secure channle) maybe you're running an old version? -- Dan Boger [EMAIL PROTECTED] msg26926/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: imap behavior
On Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 09:59:25AM -0500, David T-G wrote: Possibly so. Meanwhile, if you *can* write a 'N'ew flag back to any mailbox, I'll start bugging root! yup, works, no problems :) bug away! -- Dan Boger [EMAIL PROTECTED] msg26931/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: toggle-read?
On Mon, Apr 08, 2002 at 01:31:04PM -0500, David T-G wrote: ...and then Bo Peng said... % % Is there a toggle-read function somewhere? Sometimes, I want to toggle emails % as read without really reading them. I am using setflag O (old) but this is % not exactly what I want. You can write ('w') or clear ('W') any flag you want. In addition, you can toggle the new flag with 'N'. See 2.3.1.1 in the manual and your index help screen for more info. hmmm... on my mutt (1.3.28i) I don't see that. What I use is N - toggle-new. :) -- Dan Boger Linux MVP brainbench.com msg26877/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: toggle-read?
On Mon, Apr 08, 2002 at 01:49:25PM -0500, David T-G wrote: % You can write ('w') or clear ('W') any flag you want. In addition, you % can toggle the new flag with 'N'. See 2.3.1.1 in the manual and your % index help screen for more info. % % hmmm... on my mutt (1.3.28i) I don't see that. What I use is N - What don't you see? sorry - was looking for the keyword write instead of ^w. yes, set/clear flag is defenitly there, and useful too! % toggle-new. Yep; good, unless you want to set replied or flagged or ... good point. I do believe the original question was how to mark as read which, to me, means not new :) heh, guess the perl moto applies to mutt as well :) -- Dan Boger [EMAIL PROTECTED] msg26885/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: close IMAP connections
On Tue, Apr 02, 2002 at 07:07:35PM +0200, Michael Tatge wrote: Dan Boger ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) muttered: when I don't access that one folder for a while, and I switch to it (with a macro), I get an error connection closed and an empty index. the only thing I could find that would fix this is to quit mutt and start it again - a new connection will then be established. Try setting $imap_keepalive to a higher value. to a higher value? that's counter intuitive, isn't it? anyway, to report, setting it to a lower value did not help - accessing the mailbox before going to sleep last night, and again this morning, I get the same problem. Mutt says some sort of error (is there an easy way to review/catch these?), followed by a Close failed... then I have to quit and reenter mutt. it is not impossible that this problem is with my imap server, btw, but I'm trying to clear all my bases. on the other hand, setting mail_check higher did wonders to the performance of mutt with a lot of IMAP boxes :) -- Dan Boger [EMAIL PROTECTED] msg26580/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: close IMAP connections
On Wed, Apr 03, 2002 at 09:03:34AM -0500, David T-G wrote: % get the same problem. Mutt says some sort of error (is there an easy % way to review/catch these?), followed by a Close failed... then I % have to quit and reenter mutt. I don't have the real answer, but what if you change to a local folder and then back to the imap folder? You might not have to quite mutt after all... nope, same thing. have to actually quit and restart mutt. :) -- Dan Boger [EMAIL PROTECTED] msg26586/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
close IMAP connections
I'm trying to use an IMAP folder with mutt, and running into an annoying problem: when I don't access that one folder for a while, and I switch to it (with a macro), I get an error connection closed and an empty index. the only thing I could find that would fix this is to quit mutt and start it again - a new connection will then be established. Is there anything I can do to fix this? Is there are way, perhaps, to explicity tell mutt to close the IMAP connection, so it will be reopened, without quitting mutt? thanks :) msg26522/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: close IMAP connections
On Tue, Apr 02, 2002 at 06:32:07PM +0200, Heiko Heil wrote: I have the same problem here. I find it very annoying that due to the lost connection my sent E-Mail cannot be saved. By the way - I use the preconnect-feature in order to access my imap-port: set preconnect=ssh -f -q -L 8090:127.0.0.1:143 -L 8091:127.0.0.1:389 \ [EMAIL PROTECTED] sleep 120 /dev/null /dev/null 21 I just use imaps, and it's all behind my firewall anyway... but that doesn't solve the problem ... -- Dan Boger [EMAIL PROTECTED] msg26525/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: close IMAP connections
On Tue, Apr 02, 2002 at 04:56:41PM +, Simon White wrote: All my mailboxes are IMAP, so I don't have this problem, since I'm always connected to the server. However, I have a fairly short imap_checkinterval: set imap_checkinterval=60 I saw that in the manual, but when I try it, I get an unknown setting error... here's my mutt -v: Mutt 1.3.28i (2002-03-13) Copyright (C) 1996-2001 Michael R. Elkins and others. Mutt comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY; for details type `mutt -vv'. Mutt is free software, and you are welcome to redistribute it under certain conditions; type `mutt -vv' for details. System: Linux 2.2.19-6.2.7 (i586) [using ncurses 4.0] Compile options: -DOMAIN -DEBUG -HOMESPOOL +USE_SETGID +USE_DOTLOCK +DL_STANDALONE +USE_FCNTL -USE_FLOCK -USE_POP +USE_NNTP +USE_IMAP -USE_GSS +USE_SSL -USE_SASL +HAVE_REGCOMP -USE_GNU_REGEX +HAVE_COLOR +HAVE_START_COLOR +HAVE_TYPEAHEAD +HAVE_BKGDSET +HAVE_CURS_SET +HAVE_META +HAVE_RESIZETERM +HAVE_PGP -BUFFY_SIZE -EXACT_ADDRESS -SUN_ATTACHMENT +ENABLE_NLS -LOCALES_HACK +COMPRESSED +HAVE_WC_FUNCS +HAVE_LANGINFO_CODESET ++HAVE_LANGINFO_YESEXPR +HAVE_ICONV -ICONV_NONTRANS +HAVE_GETSID +HAVE_GETADDRINFO ISPELL=/usr/bin/ispell SENDMAIL=/usr/sbin/sendmail MAILPATH=/var/spool/mail PKGDATADIR=/usr/local/share/mutt SYSCONFDIR=/usr/local/etc EXECSHELL=/bin/sh -MIXMASTER To contact the developers, please mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]. To report a bug, please use the flea(1) utility. vvv.nntp patch-1.3.28.rr.compressed.1 patch-1.2.xtitles.1 -- Dan Boger [EMAIL PROTECTED] msg26528/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: close IMAP connections
On Tue, Apr 02, 2002 at 06:17:50PM +, Simon White wrote: Let me confirm for Heike and Dan, that you have local folders and IMAP folders in your config, and this is why your IMAP folders are timing out (on the server) causing the connection to close and thus creating your problem with not being able to log back in without restarting? I have two setups (two different boxes) - one has a bunch of local (non-imap) folders, and a macro defined to access an IMAP folder (infrequently). the other box is all IMAP - my folders via IMAP (which update and work fine), and that same macro for an imap folder (on the same server, but with a different username). When I access that one IMAP folder, leave it for a while, and try to come back is when I run into this problem. -- Dan Boger [EMAIL PROTECTED] msg26536/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: close IMAP connections
On Tue, Apr 02, 2002 at 12:23:01PM -0600, David Champion wrote: It's a little briefer in the actual NEWS file (which this was meant to patch). Basically, it was determined that $imap_checkinterval and $mail_check were redundant, so we dropped the special imap one. _very_ interesting. so while it doesn't help with my current problem (since the mailbox that's timing out isn't one that's getting polled for new mail) it might explain why my all-IMAP config is very slow, compared with the local one... esp since my IMAP server is a P90 with 48M of ram :) -- Dan Boger [EMAIL PROTECTED] msg26541/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: close IMAP connections
On Tue, Apr 02, 2002 at 06:24:45PM +, Simon White wrote: 02-Apr-02 at 13:22, Dan Boger ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote : I have two setups (two different boxes) - one has a bunch of local (non-imap) folders, and a macro defined to access an IMAP folder (infrequently). the other box is all IMAP - my folders via IMAP (which update and work fine), and that same macro for an imap folder (on the same server, but with a different username). When I access that one IMAP folder, leave it for a while, and try to come back is when I run into this problem. I'm assuming that you mean the IMAP folder with a different username. correct. Do you have anything set for mail_check in your .muttrc? yup - set mail_check = 5 -- Dan Boger [EMAIL PROTECTED] msg26542/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: close IMAP connections
On Tue, Apr 02, 2002 at 06:57:59PM +, Simon White wrote: So... let me know how you get on if you lower imap_keepalive and/or if you add the IMAP folder to your new mail poll... although you'll set mail_check higher or that poor old P90 might get a bit overworked :) I changed my keepalive, and will report - thanks for the help! -- Dan Boger [EMAIL PROTECTED] msg26555/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
[OT] Re: close IMAP connections
On Tue, Apr 02, 2002 at 02:10:43PM -0500, David T-G wrote: You have 48M? Wow; lucky you. My box at home is only a P60 with 16M :-) yah, we upgraded after it was too slow acting as a fileserver/dns/dhcp/web server/twiki/cvs/smb master etc... it's actually working quite nice, except that AIDE takes too long to run on it (17 hrs/day), so I need to fix that... and it still beats my firewall - 486/25 with 7.8M of ram (don't ask)... though that one is purring away nicely :) -- Dan Boger [EMAIL PROTECTED] msg26556/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Patch: filter-message
On Tue, Mar 26, 2002 at 11:19:14AM -0700, Steve Talley wrote: Quick description: filter-message (default: ) Asks for an external shell command and filters the current or tagged message(s) through it. Each tagged message will be filtered through a separate invocation of the command. The stdout of the command will be appended to the current folder as a new message, and the original message will be marked for deletion. just curious - wouldn't this break the compression patch? Sounds like a useful idea, but I can't even try it if it does :/ -- Dan Boger [EMAIL PROTECTED] msg26169/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Patch: filter-message
On Tue, Mar 26, 2002 at 01:47:50PM -0500, David T-G wrote: Don't see why it would; can you clarify your hesitation? If the working folder is modified, say by a save or an edit-message or any such stuff, then mutt will utilize the close-hook command to bundle the temp folder into the place of the compressed folder (whereas if no changes are saved then the temp folder can be thrown away without changing the original folder). Or am I missing something? I think I am missing something... when a message is filtered, it will append it to the TEMP copy of the folder? if so, that's great :) I was worried that it will append it to the original, and that would, of course, break things... -- Dan Boger [EMAIL PROTECTED] msg26197/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Converting mbox to Maildir
On Wed, Mar 20, 2002 at 01:21:08PM -0500, Shawn McMahon wrote: begin quoting what David T-G said on Wed, Mar 20, 2002 at 01:08:56PM -0500: % Is mbox the same as Unix format? Yes, mbox is the same mailbox format that you know from years and years ago. Each message is delimited by ^From_ (a newline, From, and a Well, technically, I don't think UNIX has a mail format. UNIX doesn't do mail. *SENDMAIL* has a mail format, and it's mbox. Other common UNIX utilities recognize this format, but UNIX itself doesn't do mail. well, if you want to be pickey, sendmail doesn't deal with mailboxes either. the MDA does, though which defined the format for the mbox, I'm not sure. I would believe it's a unix standard, part of the unix operating system, but can't back that up with facts. the mbox manpage does mention this, under history: The mbox format occured in Version 6 ATT Unix. A variant of this format was documented in RFC 976. :) -- Dan Boger [EMAIL PROTECTED] msg25798/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: POP New Messages
On Sat, Mar 16, 2002 at 12:05:40AM -0800, Jerry Van Brimmer wrote: OK, I'll bite. How do you tell fetchmail to download only new mail? from `man fetchmail`: Disposal Options -a, --all (Keyword: fetchall) Retrieve both old (seen) and new messages from the mailserver. The default is to fetch only messages the server has not marked seen. Under POP3, this option also forces the use of RETR rather than TOP. Note that POP2 retrieval behaves as though --all is always on (see RETRIEVAL FAILURE MODES below) and this option does not work with ETRN or ODMR. so by default, only new messages are downloaded, unless you use the -a, --all, or the 'fetchall' option. :) Dan -- Dan Boger Linux MVP brainbench.com msg25621/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Mail-Followup-To on mutt-users redundant?
On Fri, Mar 15, 2002 at 02:57:36PM +, Dave Pearson wrote: * Shawn McMahon [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-03-15 09:41:11 -0500]: Mailing lists aren't easy to recognize, at least when they don't put in a header, but you're forgetting that this will only come up if the user hits the list-reply key, thereby TELLING mutt that the email was from a list. Perhaps I'm missing something here but I don't use list-reply to tell mutt that an email is from a mailing list, I use list-reply to tell mutt that I want to respond to the list it was from (instead of to the author of the email, or whatever). right. the question is, how does mutt know what is the list address, and what is the personal address? -- Dan Boger [EMAIL PROTECTED] msg25569/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Mail-Followup-To on mutt-users redundant?
On Thu, Mar 14, 2002 at 12:20:06PM -0500, Shawn McMahon wrote: This one time, at band camp, Simon White wrote: Ahh yes there is. L (list-reply). Or whatever you map it to in your muttrcs. Cool. Except it doesn't work with any mailing list I've tried. Including, for example, this one... I believe you need to tell mutt which addresses are lists - look at the lists and subscribe keywords, in the mutt docs. HTH! -- Dan Boger Linux MVP brainbench.com msg25509/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: About the language for the mutt config tool
On Fri, Mar 08, 2002 at 12:03:56AM +0100, Marco Fioretti wrote: So, what language do the volunteers know better? I'll defenitly help if it's in perl, and will probably be useless in python. :) -- Dan Boger [EMAIL PROTECTED] msg25191/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: mutt is not for everyone
On Thu, Mar 07, 2002 at 12:38:35PM -0500, David T-G wrote: That's my recollection, but I don't have the URL to give you. You go to the website, IIRC, click on your app, put in some options, and get a config file out. Not unlike netliberte, I suppose, but I know that dotfiles (or dotfile) and generator were in the name. IIRC, it's actually an app, not a cgi... here's the homepage, thanks to freshmeat :) http://www.blackie.dk/dotfile/ -- Dan Boger [EMAIL PROTECTED] msg25155/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: how to change xterm title depending on current mailbox
On Tue, Jan 22, 2002 at 06:45:21PM +0100, Christoph Kampe wrote: Please, if its possible, can anyone tell me how to change the xterm-title depending on the mailbox i'm browsing in? history: Im using vim as my prefered editor in mutt. Everytime i use vim, it changes the Xterm-Title to the current edited file. When im leaving vim it changes to Thanks for using vim ;-) until next usage of vim. Is there any folder-hook, to change the xterm-title displaying the name of the mailbox i'm changing in? there's a patch, I believe (well, I know because I'm using it :) - I think it's linked from mutt.org: http://www.robots.ox.ac.uk/~neil/mutt/ I think I had to do some mods to it to patch 1.3.25, but who really knows :) it allows you to add things like this to your muttrc: set xterm_set_titles=yes set xterm_icon='Mutt (%?m?%mnone?%?n?/%n?)' set xterm_title=Mutt %?n?(%n new messages)? HTH, Dan -- Dan Boger [EMAIL PROTECTED] msg23575/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: how to change xterm title depending on current mailbox
On Tue, Jan 22, 2002 at 11:52:11AM -0600, John Buttery wrote: By the way, is there any way to get mutt to start composing _after_ the quoted text instead of before it when replying? it's not for mutt to do, it's your editor :) I have in my muttrc this line: set editor=vim -u ~/.mutt/vimrc -c ':0;/^$' which will tell vim to start after the headers, so I'll be positioned to trim the quoted text. if you wanted it to start at the end, you could do something like this (assuming you use vim, of course): set editor=vim -c ':%;?^$' HTH! -- Dan Boger Linux MVP brainbench.com msg23581/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
message-hooks
I'm trying to do something here, maybe it's not doable - who knows? what I want is that whenever I write or reply to a certain address, that message will be automagically BCCed to another address. I tried using send-hooks, but those do not seem to affect the current message, only subsequent messages. send-hook . 'unmy_hdr Bcc:' send-hook [EMAIL PROTECTED] 'my_hdr Bcc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]' (from memory) Is it possible? -- Dan Boger [EMAIL PROTECTED] msg23155/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: message-hooks
On Wed, Jan 16, 2002 at 07:21:28PM +0100, Roman Neuhauser wrote: what I want is that whenever I write or reply to a certain address, that message will be automagically BCCed to another address. I tried using send-hooks, but those do not seem to affect the current message, only subsequent messages. send-hook . 'unmy_hdr Bcc:' send-hook [EMAIL PROTECTED] 'my_hdr Bcc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]' Doesn't message-hook do what you describe here? nope, doesn't seem to do anything at all! -- Dan Boger [EMAIL PROTECTED] msg23168/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: message-hooks
On Wed, Jan 16, 2002 at 01:16:59PM -0500, Dan Boger wrote: On Wed, Jan 16, 2002 at 07:21:28PM +0100, Roman Neuhauser wrote: what I want is that whenever I write or reply to a certain address, that message will be automagically BCCed to another address. I tried using send-hooks, but those do not seem to affect the current message, only subsequent messages. send-hook . 'unmy_hdr Bcc:' send-hook [EMAIL PROTECTED] 'my_hdr Bcc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]' Doesn't message-hook do what you describe here? nope, doesn't seem to do anything at all! ok, I spoke prematurely... it does seem to work when I'm viewing a message that matches [EMAIL PROTECTED], but that's not quite the same... I want sending messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED], if it's a reply, or a forward, or a new message, I want it BCCed... -- Dan Boger [EMAIL PROTECTED] msg23170/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: using wildcards in mailboxes
On Thu, Jan 10, 2002 at 10:01:09AM -0500, Maciej Kalisiak wrote: Is it possible to use wildcards in the mailboxes command? I have procmail spool all my mailing list mail to various folders in ~/mail/lists, and was hoping I could do mailboxes ! =lists/* but unfortunately that doesn't seem to work; only the main spool file shows up in the list of mailboxes. try mailboxes ! `echo /path/to/your/folders/lists/*` :) -- Dan Boger Linux MVP brainbench.com msg22785/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Using message-hook to run messages through a filter
On Fri, Dec 28, 2001 at 05:09:05PM +0100, Andre Majorel wrote: There is one guy out there who has particular and very annoying writing idiosyncracies (think Prince or B1FF). I wrote a filter to translate his prose to something less obnoxious. Now how do I configure Mutt to automatically pipe his messages through the filter when reading or replying to him ? I thought that message-hook ~f joe@blow\.com pipe-message /usr/local/bin/unmangle would do the trick but Mutt says pipe-message: unknown command. well, not sure how to do it with mutt - I have written a similar filter (for a 40 year old that spells like he's a teenage hacker wannabe), and I just run it via procmail... It is funny to see my replies to him spelled correctly (including the quoted part :) HTH Dan -- Dan Boger [EMAIL PROTECTED] msg21980/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: binding a key to forward mail
On Tue, Dec 11, 2001 at 01:24:59PM +, Jose Celestino wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] definitely sucks. Don't use it. thank you for sharing this observation. -- Dan Boger [EMAIL PROTECTED] msg21495/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Fast way to folder browser
On Thu, Dec 06, 2001 at 03:06:35PM +0100, Nils Holland wrote: However, I would like to know if there is a way to make c bring me right into the folder browser, without asking me to enter a mailbox name or pressing ?. how about this: macro pager c change-foldertab macro index c change-foldertab seems to work for me :) -- Dan Boger Linux MVP brainbench.com msg21166/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Can mutt access USENET?
On Thu, Dec 06, 2001 at 11:43:32PM +0100, Roberto Suarez Soto wrote: On Dec/06/2001, Jun Liu wrote: just wondering, :) Not natively. There's a patch somewhere, but the official mutt can't. the patch I use is the vvv patch, linked from the mutt homepage (http://www.mutt.org) - http://mutt.kiev.ua/ just apply the patch, rebuild, and you're good to go :) -- Dan Boger Linux MVP brainbench.com msg21198/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: a couple more questions - sync-mailbox
On Mon, Dec 03, 2001 at 10:19:33AM -0500, Paul Brannan wrote: On Sat, Dec 01, 2001 at 09:08:02AM +0100, Sven Guckes wrote: * Paul Brannan [EMAIL PROTECTED] [011130 15:45]: 1) How can I refresh the current inbox? Use the command sync-mailbox - bound to '$' by default. And please use '?' to show the help screen and '/' to search within. Then go RTFM. Pressing '$' does not appear to have any effect. As a test, I: a) send a message to myself b) return to my INBOX (which resides on an IMAP server) c) wait a while, then press '$' -- nothing happens d) quit mutt e) start mutt and return to my INBOX -- the message is there syncing doesn't delete anything on it's own... you have to delete the message if you expect the sync to remove it from the mailbox. or am I misunderstanding you? -- Dan Boger Linux MVP brainbench.com msg20967/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: display-hooking w3m / was: mutt for blind computerusers
On Fri, Nov 30, 2001 at 12:40:36PM -0800, Gary Johnson wrote: On Fri, Nov 30, 2001 at 08:48:04PM +0100, Cristian wrote: On Fri, Nov 30, 2001 at 10:23:51AM -0800, Gary Johnson wrote: Could you automate it? Could you find out whether there are more than, say, 3 URLs in a message body so it's worth to hand over control to w3m? Can you do it without slowing down the whole Mutt? I don't think so. The problem is that you would have to use an external program to count the URLs and mutt doesn't send the message text to any external program (e.g., display_filter or pager) until it has decided which pager it is going to use. An external pager wrapper program could select among a set of external pagers, but it couldn't select mutt's internal pager. what if you set up a procmail filter, to add a header to messages with 3 or more urls, and then have mutt match that header? would that work? -- Dan Boger [EMAIL PROTECTED] msg20894/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: mutt for blind computerusers
On Wed, Nov 28, 2001 at 08:26:35PM +0100, Christian Schoepplein wrote: Hi, I'm a blind computeruser who wants to use mutt. Most things are working very fine, I had only to change a view settings in the standardconfiguration to get mutt working with my special screenreading software (suse-blinux) and hardware devices (brailledisplay and speechsynt). But one thing is very uncomfortable... When reading a mail, there is no cursor inside mutt's internal pager which makes it unposible for my screenreading software to read the message with the normal keyboard by using the arrowkeys for example. I have to use the keys on my brailledisplay and thats really stressfull ;-). What I'm looking for is a posibility to get a cursor inside the pager which is positioned on the first letter of the line. When opening a message the cursor should be in teh first line of the mail and it would be cool to scroll to the next line (for example by pressing the arrow-down-key) and so on, till the last line of the messagetext. It would be great to be able navigating on every line of the message with the cursor, then it shuld be no problem reading a message with my screenreading software. As far as I know mutt doesn't have a solution for my problem, but maybe I'm wrong ??? Perhaps anyone has a tip how I can solve the problem or maybe it is posible to ad a new feature to mutt, that brings a cursor in to the internal pager. well, a workaround might be instead of viewing messages with enter, view with 'e' - edit-message. that will open the message in your defined editor, and you can scroll through it there with the cursor... when done, just quit your editor without saving, and you're back at the index. in my setup, the editor is set to : set editor=vim -u ~/.mutt/vimrc -c ':0;/^$' so that it automagically starts after the headers :) HTH! -- Dan Boger Linux MVP brainbench.com msg20758/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: mutt for blind computerusers
On Wed, Nov 28, 2001 at 02:36:06PM -0500, Daniel Eisenbud wrote: On Wed, Nov 28, 2001 at 02:32:39PM -0500, Dan Boger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: well, a workaround might be instead of viewing messages with enter, view with 'e' - edit-message. that will open the message in your defined editor, and you can scroll through it there with the cursor... when done, just quit your editor without saving, and you're back at the index. Setting the pager to an editor (preferably started with a readonly flag) would be a lot less error-prone. defenitly! I didn't actually know you could do that :) -- Dan Boger [EMAIL PROTECTED] msg20761/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Strange attachement
On Mon, Nov 26, 2001 at 10:21:18PM +0100, Patrik Modesto wrote: Hi, I often get mail with attachement like this: begin 666 Studie.doc MT,\1X*QN$`/@`#`/[_0! M/P``$ ``00$```#^`#X```#_ M snip ` end It is sent from MSOE and it looks like that, only when the user forwards interesting messages to someone else. When sending new composed mail, attachement looks right and is recogniced by mutt. I think, this is not a valid form of attachement. What can be wrong? pipe it into uudecode - '|uudecode' should do the trick. I wouldn't be able to tell you when OE decides to encode an attachment in MIME and when in UU, but either way is decodable. HTH :) -- Dan Boger Linux MVP brainbench.com msg20702/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: send-hook to parse entry out of subject line and dump into CC field?
On Fri, Nov 16, 2001 at 01:31:30PM -0500, David T-G wrote: I created /tmp/ed.sh which looks like #!/bin/sh perl -e ' open MUTTI, '$1'; open MUTTO, '$1'.out; while(MUTTI) { print(-); ### print(MUTTO $_); } print(\n);### close MUTTI; close MUTTO; ' mv -f $1.out $1 vim +/^$ $* and set my $editor to that (note the clever unquoting of $1 in the open lines) and, sure enough, found my entire file indented by two lines. I let mutt put together the headers and the body and then hand it to the editor, which I've specified as a wrapper which will first manipulate the file it's handed. Now, I know that there is a way to edit in place in perl and skip the temp file, but it doesn't pop to mind. I could do it easily in ed but that would probably be tough to use to grab the Subject: line and generate a Cc: line :-) perl -i -n -e 's/^/- /;' $1 something like this? :) -- Dan Boger Linux MVP brainbench.com msg20511/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: send-hook to parse entry out of subject line and dump into CC field?
On Fri, Nov 16, 2001 at 01:50:05PM -0500, darren chamberlain wrote: Dan Boger [EMAIL PROTECTED] said something to this effect on 11/16/2001: On Fri, Nov 16, 2001 at 01:31:30PM -0500, David T-G wrote: perl -i -n -e 's/^/- /;' $1 something like this? :) Close! perl -i -pe 's/^/- /' $1 doh! what was I thinking! -- Dan Boger [EMAIL PROTECTED] msg20513/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Re: /var/mail/sean is not a mailbox?
On Wed, Nov 14, 2001 at 02:28:42PM -0700, Sean LeBlanc wrote: So I cleared the mail file again, sent another test message from hotmail, removed this line from the .fetchmailrc: mda procmail, and then ran again. This time the mailbox was okay. So I guess somehow I'm running procmail incorrectly, or else it's misconfigured in the .procmailrc. not sure if this is related, but here's how I have procmail in my fetchmailrc: mda '/usr/bin/procmail -d %T' :) -- Dan Boger [EMAIL PROTECTED] msg20442/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: maildir and compressed folders
On Thu, Oct 18, 2001 at 03:11:26PM -0400, David T-G wrote: In theory, you should be able to open and/or close and/or append any sort of mailbox this way; one idea that has crossed my mind is a encrypted mail folder (tar.pgp) but I haven't played with it and it requires an unencrypted temp file anyway... nod... I used to do that for a while - the folders would get unencrypted while you were reading them, but if someone got hold of your machine, they wouldn't be able to access any (closed) folders... the only problem was in appending msgs to mailboxes, since it had to unencrypt/reencrypt, instead of just appending, like you can do with gzip... -- Dan Boger [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP signature
Re: is it possible to have mutt use gzipped mailboxes ?
On Fri, Oct 05, 2001 at 03:30:29PM +0200, Sven wrote: Hello, ... First, i am a long time mutt user, and find it one of the best muas around. I was asking myself if it would be possible for mutt to read a gzipped mailbox. I suppose this could be done using the zlib library, but have found no mention of it in the manpage, nor in the faq or other documents i have read about mutt. Actually i just made a compressed archive of my mail boxes, burnt a CD with them, and would like to be able to use mutt read them, without having to uncompress them, which takes place and processing time. Please reply to me directly, as i am not subsrcibed to this list. yup, I've been using it for almost all my folders for a while now... get the patch from http://www.spinnaker.de/mutt/compressed/ and recompile mutt with it. I'm running it with the 1.2.5i version (I think :) HTH -- Dan Boger Linux MVP brainbench.com PGP signature
OT - weird sendmail error msg
yes, I know it's way off-topic, but I figure people here might know... what would make sendmail barf on a queue, saying Deferred: Permission denied? Trying to help a friend's site, with about 600 msgs stuck in the queue, and more gathering there all the time... anyone have any idea? Thanks! -- Dan Boger [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP signature
Re: Mutt and GPG
On Mon, Sep 24, 2001 at 04:55:26PM -0400, Derek D. Martin wrote: I have been using mutt with pgp for some time now, but I've now got enough people that I want to send encrypted mail to on a regular basis that I'd like to have mutt automatically encrypt mail to everyone for whom I have public keys, and just leave it unencrytped for everyone else. I looked through the manual, and though it seems like send-hook and/or auto-encrypt might be helpful for this, there's nothing clear that I could find in the manual to explain how to do this. Anyone have pointers? something like this. add to your .muttrc: source .muttrc.autoenc and add a cronjob: gpg --list-keys | perl -n -e '/(.*?)/; print send-hook $1 \set pgp_autoencrypt\\n' ~/.muttrc.autoenc would that do? :) great idea, btw, I like it! -- Dan Boger Linux MVP brainbench.com PGP signature
Re: Another PGP-GnuPG problem...
On Thu, Sep 20, 2001 at 10:25:06AM -0400, Jean-Sebastien Morisset wrote: Hi folks! :-) When I was using PGP, I used to be able to re-read encrypted messages I had sent - not so since I changed to GnuPG. I guess it doesn't include my key in the encryption by default. What's the prefered way of configuring this with mutt? check your .muttrc - I have this: set pgp_encrypt_sign_command=pgpewrap gpg --passphrase-fd 0 -v --batch -o - --encrypt --sign %?a?-u %a? --armor --always-trust -- -r DC18C098 %r -- %f notice that it mentiones there my keyid (DC18C098), it encrypts both to my key and to the recipient (%r I think)... HTH :) -- Dan Boger Linux MVP brainbench.com PGP signature
Re: scores
On Tue, Sep 18, 2001 at 10:22:08PM +0200, Matthias LOITSCH wrote: i cant assign a negative number to a score! why does the command ... : score '~f [EMAIL PROTECTED]' -5 ... not work??? it always assignes 0 to the messages i have no problem with positive numbers. thanks for your help The score commands adds value to a message's score if pattern matches it. pattern is a string in the format described in the ``patterns'' section. value is a positive or negative integer. A message's final score is the sum total of all matching score entries. However, you may optionally prefix value with an equal sign (=) to cause evaluation to stop at a particular entry if there is a match. Negative final scores are rounded up to 0. Negative final scores are rounded up to 0. :) HTH, -- Dan Boger Linux MVP brainbench.com PGP signature
Re: auto attachment
On Mon, Sep 17, 2001 at 06:46:08AM -0400, David T-G wrote: % is it possible to include an attachment into mails automatically % (like a signature) ? Let's see, here... Back in [EMAIL PROTECTED] Adam Lazur asked if anyone had such a thing, and I haven't seen any reply. That might be enough to get you started, though; I vaguely recall that creating the Attach: header by hand will attach a file (yep, just tested it). cool! I didn't know that. So all you need to do is add a my_hdr Attach: /path/to/file to your .muttrc, and it'll auto-attach that file to every message. nice. Mutt rocks. -- Dan Boger [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP signature
Re: shell escape (!) oddity
On Fri, Sep 14, 2001 at 04:02:58PM -0500, Drew Raines wrote: I press ! to execute a shell command, and if I press enter at the prompt instead of a command, it kicks me out of mutt without saving. If this is the desirable behavior, will someone explain why? it doesn't actually kick you out of mutt... it just gives you a shell.. type exit, you'll find yourself back in good 'ol mutt :) -- Dan Boger [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP signature
Re: Mutt + PGP
On Thu, Sep 13, 2001 at 10:37:26AM -0400, Nelson D. Guerrero wrote: Well, I installed gpg a couple of weeks ago and was looking around for a answer to my problem, and just did'nt find one so I left it like that. But it's become quite anoying looking at that everytime I get a signed email. PGP signature could NOT be verified. I get that everytime...how can I 'NOT' get this? 6.3.128. pgp_verify_sig Type: quadoption Default: yes If ``yes'', always attempt to verify PGP/MIME signatures. If ``ask'', ask whether or not to verify the signature. If ``no'', never attempt to verify PGP/MIME signatures. so just put set pgp_verify_sig=no and it won't try. Or, fix your gpg config :) -- Dan Boger Linux MVP brainbench.com PGP signature
Re: limiting by number of lines
On Mon, Sep 10, 2001 at 09:38:44AM -0400, David T-G wrote: With mutt-1.2.5 (or -1.3.22.1), can one limit by the number of lines in a message? I have a folder with messages from all over and I can easily limit the display to only a given subject, but the 10-line messages are just acks and so I'd like to also exclude them from the display -- but I don't want to sort by size because I'd like to see them in date order. wouldn't this work? ~s subject ~z 1k guessing that a 10 line message will be less than 1k in size...? -- Dan Boger Linux MVP brainbench.com PGP signature
Re: limiting by number of lines
On Mon, Sep 10, 2001 at 10:07:34AM -0400, David T-G wrote: % guessing that a 10 line message will be less than 1k in size...? It will take some tweaking, since all of the acks are 10 lines long and none of the good messages are less, but some of the good messages are only 13 or 15 lines long (while others are easy at 220 lines)... of course, you could always try to hack it... maybe score messages with the output of `wc -l` - assuming you don't use scoring for something else... :) -- Dan Boger Linux MVP brainbench.com PGP signature
Re: Address Book
On Wed, Aug 22, 2001 at 06:11:38PM -0700, dannyman wrote: So, what is the point of abook? To query non-mutt address books from mutt? It looks like if I was silly enough to want to manage my .aliases file with it, I would have to convert .aliases to abook format, then run abook, then convert back to mutt .aliases. Or am I missing something? you don't need to convert the abook back to aliases - you can just use it as an external query command, and get email addresses directly from abook. basicly, stop using .aliases. HTH -- Dan Boger Linux MVP brainbench.com PGP signature
quote deleting in vim (OT)
Just a wild guess that the vi gurus here could help me out... When I reply to a message, I try to quote only the relevant parts. But once I'm done, especially if the message is part of a long and over quoted thread, I have to delete 10s, or even 100s of lines before I get to my sig... any easy way of doing Delete until ^--? I could also write a macro to do DG:r~/.sig^M, but thought there might be an easier way? Anyone? :) -- Dan Boger [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP signature
nntp patch and hooks
Is there a way using the vvv patch to assign hooks to newsgroups? or even to all nntp postings? I want my sig to be different on the news server than on mail... I've tried server-hook, folder-hook, and send-hook... I figured I should be able to send-hook matching on ^Newsgroups:, but that didn't work either. :/ ideas? -- Dan Boger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: nntp patch and hooks
On Tue, Jun 19, 2001 at 02:06:43PM -0400, Louis LeBlanc wrote: # Set my nntp signature file (defaults are set in .muttrc) server-hook news.server.net 'set signature=~/.mutt/nntpsig' yup, that's what I tried... but no luck at all. I put in: server-hook news.server.new 'set signature=test' and hit P - I still get my standard sig... send-hooks aren't called for nntp posts, right? any way to debug this? Thanks, -- Dan Boger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Displaying number of lines in a message
On Fri, Jun 15, 2001 at 12:48:24PM -0400, Louis LeBlanc wrote: I don't know what the deal is. Like I said in the procmail message, I suspect that part of the problem is in the lock attempt at /var/spool/mail/leblanc.lock What do you do there? do you have permissions to write to that dir? can't you just set $LOCKFILE to someplace else where you do have write permissions? -- Dan Boger Linux MVP brainbench.com
Re: Displaying number of lines in a message
On Fri, Jun 15, 2001 at 02:14:54PM -0400, Louis LeBlanc wrote: On 06/15/01 01:04 PM, Dan Boger sat at the `puter and typed: On Fri, Jun 15, 2001 at 12:48:24PM -0400, Louis LeBlanc wrote: can't you just set $LOCKFILE to someplace else where you do have write permissions? Apparently not. I entered the following line at the top of the /etc/procmailrc file: LOCKFILE=$HOME/.procmail.lock And still got the same results. I am looking at the DEFAULT setting. I don't know what to make of it just yet, but I'll let you know. I may be completely off track here, but according to the procmail manpage, the commands in /etc/procmailrc might be executed as root... meaning that $HOME/.procmail.lock would be /root/procmail.lock or something like that - where a regular user will still not have write access. I'd try (one last time) to put that in the ~/.procmailrc file... -- Dan Boger Linux MVP brainbench.com
Re: Accented characters
On Thu, Jun 07, 2001 at 05:42:49PM +, Victor wrote: No one has still answered to my devastating question: How can I make accented characters appear in my Italian e-mails (they're invariably substituted with '?') ? Ciao é à (here an example) good example - came out (for me) as an 'e' with a '/' on top, and an 'a' with a '\' on top... My guess that your terminal is lacking somehow... -- Dan Boger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: fetching mail in mutt and sendmail
On Mon, 21 May 2001, Joss Winn wrote: I would like to disable the sendmail daemon yet still be able to fetch mail using fetchmail, calling sendmail to deliver the mail only when fetchmail needs it. Currently, if the sendmail daemon is disabled, I can send mail, but when trying to fetch i with fetchmail, it fails because sendmail is not running in the background. Is there anyway i can use sendmail without it running constantly on port 25? I do not run any external services and am the only user. Alternatively, can I make the pop3 function in mutt work with procmail? just curious, why deliver the mail via sendmail? you can just call procmail directly from fetchmail, and skip sendmail alltogether... unless there's a reason I've missed here? just put: mda /usr/bin/procmail -d %T in your fetchmailrc, and turn off sendmail :) HTH, Dan -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux MVP Brainbench.com
Re: [feature req] Configurable behaviour after MTA failure
On Fri, 18 May 2001, Joane Lispton wrote: To sum it up, when it comes to the trade-off between - doing all the queueing manually, and knowing (from within mutt) that mail has been successfully relayed and - having a MTA do the queueing for me, yet, if I wish to make sure that something is already at the relay host, I have to dig in log files, wouldn't mailq still tell you the mail is in the queue, and hasn't been flush yet? not saying that the option not to store the fcc on failed delivery is a bad thing, just another way to check :) Dan
Re: Using urlview for FTP?
On Tue, Jan 30, 2001 at 08:47:20AM -0800, Ben Reser wrote: Not possible right now. urlview only knows how to use one program. You can use the COMMAND option in the .urlview file to change from netscape to another program but you can set one for ftp and one for http... unless you write a wrapper script, put it as your COMMAND, and have it check if it's an ftp url, or a https? url, or whatever... -- Dan Boger System Administrator Brainbench linux MVP http://www.brainbench.com
score and ~b
Doh! Finally got around to set some score rules (I want to see when someone's referencing my website on a high volium list) - but mutt says "~b isn't supported in this mode" for the following command? score "~b peeron.com" 500 am I missing something? -- Dan Boger / [EMAIL PROTECTED] / www.peeron.com / ICQ: 1130750 set:3722_1: Treasure Tomb (LEGO/SYSTEM/Adventurers/Egypt), '98, 161 pcs, 3 figs
Re: compressed folders
On Thu, Jan 18, 2001 at 08:21:17AM -0500, Michael P. Soulier wrote: Hey guys. My apologies if this is in the docs, you can just point me to it. Currently, I save every message at work that I've ever sent. This makes the outbox big quickly, so I copy the outbox occasionally and start with a new one, gziping the old one. Now, if I need to search the gzipped copy, I can unzip it and use mutt's excellent regexp support. However, I'm wondering if there's a way to unzip it automatically and zip it again. I'm sure someone has done this, I can't be the laziest guy in the room! Ok, maybe. ;-) yup, someone already made a patch for it... one sec, I'll search for it... http://www.spinnaker.de/mutt/compressed/ there is it. :) it also supports gpg, so not only are my older folders compressed, they are encrypted as well. :) -- Dan Boger System Administrator Brainbench linux MVP http://www.brainbench.com PGP signature
Re: sending mail and a copy saved to sent-mail...
On Wed, Nov 15, 2000 at 12:28:06PM -0800, Luke Ravitch wrote: Cool. I like to compress my archived sent mail, though. I just have: nod, I do that too, only gpg it in the proccess. do you use the +COMPRESSED patch to mutt, so it could read the compressed folders on the fly? :) -- Dan Boger System Administrator [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP signature
Re: send-hooks not reset
On Tue, Oct 24, 2000 at 04:53:25PM -0400, Adrian Chung wrote: set from="Adrian Chung [EMAIL PROTECTED]" alternates="(support|achung)@mycompany\.(com|net|org)" send-hook '~f support@mycompany' 'my_hdr From: company support [EMAIL PROTECTED]' send-hook '~f support@mycompany' 'set signature=~/.signature-support' Is this normal behaviour? Do I have to set a default send-hook to reset every parameter that I change? exactly. when you set the sig, or a header, it's not only for that message. so you need to do something like: send-hook . 'unmy_hdr From:' send-hook . 'unset signature' -- Dan Boger System Administrator [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP signature
Re: GPG 1.0.3 and mutt
On Fri, Oct 20, 2000 at 05:02:57PM +0930, Brian Salter-Duke wrote: I recently decided to try GnuPG after using only pgp2 off and on for some years. It was only after I downloaded it and played with it for a while, that I realised that version 1.0.3 was very recent. I had got in right at the beginning of a new version. This new version incorporates RSA which I understand came out of copyright only in September. This allows one I gather to encrypt in a manner compatible with pgp2. I believe the gpg only deciphers with RSA, and doesn't encrypt using it. Sorry, but I wouldn't know anything about pgp2 though... -- Dan Boger System Administrator [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP signature
Re: editing mails, then save it instead of sending
On Fri, Oct 20, 2000 at 11:00:01AM +0200, Thomas Guettler wrote: I use mutt since some months and has all the features I can imagine. Great. But one thing I am missing: Sometimes I want to edit a mail, and then save it. I think it is only possible to edit and resend it. (OK, I could resent it to myself, but that's not a nice solution) Has someone an solution? e edit edit the raw message so just hit 'e' on the message you want to edit it'll open it up in your editor, and put the modified message right after the old one, with the old message marked for deletion... or is that not what you meant? -- Dan Boger System Administrator [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP signature
Re: FEATURE-REQUEST: mutt looks for PGPPASS environment variable
On Fri, Oct 20, 2000 at 01:51:13PM +0200, Daniel Kollar wrote: In the PGP CmdLineGuide you will find a section about this. There you can read that using this feature is safe when you use in in a environment where no one else has access to it. I'm doing that. The environment is only active as long as mutt is open. No one from outside can access it. The wrapper script asks me for entering the passphrase and starts mutt immedeately after this. So, it is safe. The only thing a would agree is that someone can change the wrapper script to send the passphrase via email to outside... what about people accessing mutt's enviroment through the proc filesystem? or via strace? "an enviroment where no one else has access to it" ususally means a standalone computer, or one where you are the ONLY user (including root)... if it's a multi user machine, your env isn't safe. -- Dan Boger System Administrator [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP signature
Re: Composing a draft?
On Sun, Oct 15, 2000 at 12:51:12PM +0100, Conor Daly wrote: I don't think this would work. mutt sits waiting for the editor to return before sending the mail. If you use gvim which detaches itself from mutt, mutt decides that you've abandoned the message and aborts the send. To make mutt use gvim you need to use something like set editor='gvim -e' which tells gvim to remain within the current process until it exits rather than detaching from its parent immediately. ok, but that doesn't help you keep reading mail while you're editing a draft... I don't have a solution for this though - need some way for mutt to just go on, not waiting for the process, and not deleteing the tmpfile... then, somehow, when the editor is done, something needs to send that mail... -- Dan Boger System Administrator [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP signature
Re: How can I use mutt on disconnected laptops?
On Sun, Oct 15, 2000 at 12:15:04PM -0700, joel wittenberg wrote: I read email from both my laptop and desktop machines (which are each in different email domains, ISPs, etc), and I do this fairly simply since my email server uses POP3 (I believe that something similar is possible using IMAP, but I don't know exactly how to do it since I don't have access to any mail servers which run IMAP). Just use fetchmail and supply the UIDL keyword - now each host running email will d/l its own copy of your mail (thus, both the laptop and the main PC will each have the full set of email). Of course, you'll have to d/l and mark as read email on 1 machine which you've already read on the other but that's pretty trivial and easy. And using fetchmail makes it easy to use procmail as well, which is a Good Thing. this would work for getting mail, but you would still lose the sent mail data, and would have to process all your mail twice... the only way to achieve all this that I can think of, without scripts and such, is to use IMAP... which is a whole other bag of tricks... :) -- Dan Boger System Administrator [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP signature
Re: How can I use mutt on disconnected laptops?
On Sat, Oct 14, 2000 at 02:35:24PM +, Conor Daly wrote: cat ~/mbox | /usr/bin/formail -D 8192 msgid.cache laptop:~/mbox cat laptop:~/mbox | /usr/bin/formail -D 8192 msgid.cache ~/mbox and similarly for other folders (I don't know what the "8192" bit means above, I just copied it blindly from Telsa's .procmailrc). the 8192 is the size of the cache for the IDs - if you're processing a large mailbox though, (say, more than 10-20 messages) you'd defenitly want this larger... at least 64k, if not more... another way to go at it, and this also works only if there's only one machine that is getting the mail, is just put the mailfolder (or the maildir) in an nfs share... Dan PGP signature
mutt and IMAP
just started playing with IMAP a little (mostly to read postmaster mail) and I was wondering about mutt's IMAP support... Is anyone using it? Here's some of my questions... Is there a way to browse the server folders, without knowing in advance which folders are available? Does the new mail notify work for imap folders? Is there a way (without macros) to teach mutt which IMAP servers/folders I usually read, and have it selectable? :) -- Dan Boger System Administrator [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP signature
Re: mutt and IMAP
On Thu, Oct 12, 2000 at 03:00:27PM +0200, Kai Blin wrote: Does the new mail notify work for imap folders? Yes, it works nicely ok, how do I get it to work? I put the IMAP folders I want in my $mailboxes, but I never get notified still? Is there a way (without macros) to teach mutt which IMAP servers/folders I usually read, and have it selectable? You mean like the mailboxes option in .muttrc? Yes! I actually meant without putting them in the $mailboxes - I guess that ties into folder browsing in general.. :) -- Dan Boger System Administrator [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP signature
Re: signature to appear on top when replying mail
On Thu, Oct 12, 2000 at 07:36:45PM +0800, Benny Chee wrote: how can the signature file be placed on top rather than below when replying a mail? Top as in above the content of the mail i m replying to. you could always do something like this: set editor = '/bin/vi -c /^$/:r.signature' or set editor = '/bin/vi -c /^$/:r!makesig' -- Dan Boger System Administrator [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP signature
reverse_name and alternates
what am I doing wrong? I have the following set: set alternates = [EMAIL PROTECTED]|[EMAIL PROTECTED]|[EMAIL PROTECTED]|[EMAIL PROTECTED]|[EMAIL PROTECTED]|[EMAIL PROTECTED]|dboger@.*.bgu.ac.il set reverse_name and yet, when I get mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and try to reply to it, the reply has the default of [EMAIL PROTECTED] what am I missing? :) Dan -- Dan Boger System Administrator [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP signature
Re: reverse_name and alternates
On Wed, Oct 11, 2000 at 08:16:15PM +0300, Mikko Hänninen wrote: Are you using "my_hdr From", perhaps? "my_hdr From" is incompatible (sort of) with $reverse_name. sure enough, that was it. Once I changed from send-hook . 'my_hdr From...' to send-hook . 'unmy_hdr From' it works :) Thanks! -- Dan Boger System Administrator [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP signature