Re: Android MUA does not display mail correctly because of Content-Disposition in header

2012-10-02 Thread Ambrevar
On 12-09-29 19:47:24, Sebastian Tramp wrote:
 On Sat, Sep 29, 2012 at 11:46:55AM +0200, P. Mazart wrote:
 
   … [Content-Disposition-Header] … But I must disagree: a *lot* of people 
   are
   using the stock MUA. Simply because they don't care. That's why this issue
   shouldn't be neglected.
  
  I agree. But is this really a problem with mutt rather than android’s stock
  MUA?
 
 I have the same problem. Can you provide the patch somewhere?
 
 ST
 
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Hi there,

For those using the patch I provided for compatibility with Android stock MUA, I
just noticed a mistake of mine: attachments you send have no name! A quick look
at the header and you will see that the filename variable is missing. This is
because I short-circuited the whole process.

Thanksfully I managed to fix this. I handled the issue differently: if a part of
the e-mail has no file (e.g. e-mail body) then Content-Disposition line is not
printed at all. Otherwise Content-Disposition is printed with filename=...
after it.

So basically that's exactly Mutt's default behaviour for attachments. Only
e-mail body will be affected, which is exactly what we want for Android 
compatibility.

You can get my new (hopefully) fully-functional patch at the same location:
https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=63185

Cheers

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Re: Android MUA does not display mail correctly because of Content-Disposition in header

2012-09-29 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2012-09-29, P. Mazart pmaz...@web.de wrote:
 Ambrevar schrieb am 28.09.2012 13:22:13:
 ??? [Content-Disposition-Header] ???

 But I must disagree: a *lot* of people are using the stock MUA.
 Simply because they don't care. That's why this issue shouldn't be
 neglected.

 I agree. But is this really a problem with mutt rather than android???s
 stock MUA?

That depends on whether your goal when using mutt is to proudly
proclaim a standards-compliant pyrrhic victory over the forces of
ignorance or to communicate effectively with other e-mail users.

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Re: Android MUA does not display mail correctly because of Content-Disposition in header

2012-09-29 Thread Ambrevar
On 12-09-29 19:47:24, Sebastian Tramp wrote:
 On Sat, Sep 29, 2012 at 11:46:55AM +0200, P. Mazart wrote:
 
   … [Content-Disposition-Header] … But I must disagree: a *lot* of people 
   are
   using the stock MUA. Simply because they don't care. That's why this issue
   shouldn't be neglected.
  
  I agree. But is this really a problem with mutt rather than android’s stock
  MUA?
 
 I have the same problem. Can you provide the patch somewhere?
 
 ST
 
 -- 
 WebID: http://sebastian.tramp.name

1. I made the patched version available for Arch Linux :
https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=63185
Tested on FreeBSD too.

If you use any other distribution, it shouldn't be a problem since it uses Mutt
devel 1.5.21 and only removes a small piece of code. Tell me if you're having 
any
problem with it.

Keep in mind that this patch is by no mean an upgrade of Mutt. Actually it's
either downgrading it. It's a quick-and-dirty fix I made available for the time
being, waiting for a real fix on either sides.

Mutt's right fix should be an option in muttrc allowing to toggle this line.

2. Yes of course this should be reported to the Android dev team. I'll check
this later. Still, this issue highlights a limitation from Mutt. In my opinion
what users like about Mutt is the ability to have full control over the e-mail
content, especially the header. That's clearly not the case here.

Regards

-- 
Pierre Neidhardt

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A mountain with hiccups.


Re: Android MUA does not display mail correctly because of Content-Disposition in header

2012-09-28 Thread Ambrevar
On 12-09-27 17:53:43, Jim Graham wrote:
 On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 12:07:51PM -0500, Luis Mochan wrote:
  On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 11:06:00PM +0200, Ambrevar wrote:
  I don't recall any problem reading with Android 2.1 mail sent by
  mutt. I use K-9 as my Android mail client in my phone. 
  Best regards,
 
   My fellows recently let me aware of the fact that all the e-mail I've 
   sent them
   with Mutt could not be displayed correctly on their Android 2.* 
   smartphone. The
   mails display an empty body, the actual body being displayed as an 
   attachment
   (which Android may name 'Unknown.txt').
 
 First of all, you should try K-9 mail...or ANYTHING other than the stock
 e-mail app (same goes for the browser...I use Dolphin (which was Dolphin
 Browser HD for a little while, and now is back to just Dolphin), FWIW.
 Back to e-mail, though, like the stock browser, the stock e-mail
 basically isn't used by more than a relative few.  Few, if any, people
 that I'm aware of like either one.  But that's all a matter of personal
 preference, so I'll stop those comments here.
 
 Other than that, all I can say is I send mail to myself to/from my tablet
 all the time (when it's too small to be worth using FTP or a SAMBA
 mount).  I also forward e-mail that would look better in K-9, or that
 has links that I'd rather have on my tablet than on my Mac.  I've never
 had any problems.  My current tablet runs ICS, but I also had one that
 ran Froyo (an el-cheapo tablet Archos POS), and I also have a phone
 running Froyo that I used for e-mail before I got my tablets, and still,
 no problems (always using K-9 from day one with e-mail.).

 
Thanks for pointing me out this application. Actually it's not for me, but for 
my
fellows. I do not have an Android devices myself. I've suggested them using this
application instead.

But I must disagree: a *lot* of people are using the stock MUA. Simply because
they don't care. That's why this issue shouldn't be neglected.

-- 
Pierre Neidhardt

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Re: Android MUA does not display mail correctly because of Content-Disposition in header

2012-09-27 Thread Luis Mochan
I don't recall any problem reading with Android 2.1 mail sent by
mutt. I use K-9 as my Android mail client in my phone. 
Best regards,
Luis

On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 11:06:00PM +0200, Ambrevar wrote:
 [Mutt 1.5.21 on FreeBSD and Arch Linux]
 
 Hi
 
 My fellows recently let me aware of the fact that all the e-mail I've sent 
 them
 with Mutt could not be displayed correctly on their Android 2.* smartphone. 
 The
 mails display an empty body, the actual body being displayed as an attachment
 (which Android may name 'Unknown.txt').
 
 I've been investigating around for a while and I've come to the conclusion 
 that
 it comes from the 'Content-Disposition' that Mutt includes in the header of
 every e-mail. This feature does not seem to be toggable by the end-user (even
 though you can change the value of the Content-Disposition, but this does not
 solve the issue). This header is standard but rarely used by MUA. I've patched
 my local Mutt to remove this line from the header and it works perfectly.
 
 I've reported the issue on the bugtracker.
 
 I just wanted to know if someone ever noticed a similar issue, since I'm quiet
 surprised I couldn't find any clue on the net.
 
 Cheers

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Re: Android MUA does not display mail correctly because of Content-Disposition in header

2012-09-27 Thread Jim Graham
On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 12:07:51PM -0500, Luis Mochan wrote:
 On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 11:06:00PM +0200, Ambrevar wrote:
 I don't recall any problem reading with Android 2.1 mail sent by
 mutt. I use K-9 as my Android mail client in my phone. 
 Best regards,

  My fellows recently let me aware of the fact that all the e-mail I've sent 
  them
  with Mutt could not be displayed correctly on their Android 2.* smartphone. 
  The
  mails display an empty body, the actual body being displayed as an 
  attachment
  (which Android may name 'Unknown.txt').

First of all, you should try K-9 mail...or ANYTHING other than the stock
e-mail app (same goes for the browser...I use Dolphin (which was Dolphin
Browser HD for a little while, and now is back to just Dolphin), FWIW.
Back to e-mail, though, like the stock browser, the stock e-mail
basically isn't used by more than a relative few.  Few, if any, people
that I'm aware of like either one.  But that's all a matter of personal
preference, so I'll stop those comments here.

Other than that, all I can say is I send mail to myself to/from my tablet
all the time (when it's too small to be worth using FTP or a SAMBA
mount).  I also forward e-mail that would look better in K-9, or that
has links that I'd rather have on my tablet than on my Mac.  I've never
had any problems.  My current tablet runs ICS, but I also had one that
ran Froyo (an el-cheapo tablet Archos POS), and I also have a phone
running Froyo that I used for e-mail before I got my tablets, and still,
no problems (always using K-9 from day one with e-mail.).

Later,
   --jim

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Android MUA does not display mail correctly because of Content-Disposition in header

2012-09-26 Thread Ambrevar
[Mutt 1.5.21 on FreeBSD and Arch Linux]

Hi

My fellows recently let me aware of the fact that all the e-mail I've sent them
with Mutt could not be displayed correctly on their Android 2.* smartphone. The
mails display an empty body, the actual body being displayed as an attachment
(which Android may name 'Unknown.txt').

I've been investigating around for a while and I've come to the conclusion that
it comes from the 'Content-Disposition' that Mutt includes in the header of
every e-mail. This feature does not seem to be toggable by the end-user (even
though you can change the value of the Content-Disposition, but this does not
solve the issue). This header is standard but rarely used by MUA. I've patched
my local Mutt to remove this line from the header and it works perfectly.

I've reported the issue on the bugtracker.

I just wanted to know if someone ever noticed a similar issue, since I'm quiet
surprised I couldn't find any clue on the net.

Cheers