Re: Display of non-ascii chars
On Wed, Jul 31, 2002 at 09:57:49AM -0400, Mark J. Reed wrote: If you use the vim editor for composing messages, then you can set up digraphs to enter non-ASCII characters; it also supports a completely general but more awkward input method where you can type control-V followed by the decimal character code of the character you want, or the letter 'u' followed by the hexadecimal Unicode code point. For some it is more natural to use the ^K (control-k) syntax: ^kaa = å # Was ^ka in older vim, but aa is more natural. ^ko/ = ø ^kae = æ And if it's not Danish, but German: ^ka: = ä ^ko: = ö ^ku: = ü In vim, try: :h digraph :h digraphs and for a list of them: :digraphs Viel Spaß! Erik
Display of non-ascii chars
Dear all, I have some issue with the displaying of non-ascii chars in my mail. I have to admit that I am not 100% sure that this is a mutt-issue or more shell or terminal related. Sorry if it is off-topic, I have tried all kinds of things to get this right. If an incoming mail contains accents or other non-ascii things, they seem to show up as '?' or even blanks within mutt. This is most annoying. For instance if I look at a 'From' line in a mail that displays perfectly in Evolution mail (contains two different 'e' accents), it shows: From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?H=E9l=E8ne_Corthals?= [EMAIL PROTECTED] in 'less' on the terminal, and the same line in 'mutt' is displayed as: From: H?el?ne Corthals Again, I have tried to change char-sets in mutt and other settings that I thought might help, all to no avail. Any hints or suggestions are indeed much appreciated! -- Erik van der Meulen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Display of non-ascii chars
On Wed, Jul 31, 2002 at 01:46:24PM +0200, Roman Neuhauser wrote: looks like you have $LANG set to C, POSIX, or something like that. what happens if you just cat(1) the message (i. e. view it w/o any intervening program)? i'd guess it won't come up right either. Thanks a lot for your reply. You are right. It comes up just like in 'less' roman@freepuppy ~ 865:1 echo $LANG cs_CZ.ISO8859-2 Mine gives (as you had guessed) 'C' roman@freepuppy ~ 866:0 grep charset .mail/mutt/muttrc set charset = iso-8859-2 set send_charset = us-ascii:iso-8859-2:utf-8 I get just: charset=iso-8859-1 From this I deduce that my problem is in the $LANG. Any suggestion on how and where to change that? I am on a Debian 2.2 box. Thanks again! -- Erik van der Meulen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Display of non-ascii chars
Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2002 13:32:49 +0200 From: Erik van der Meulen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Display of non-ascii chars Dear all, I have some issue with the displaying of non-ascii chars in my mail. I have to admit that I am not 100% sure that this is a mutt-issue or more shell or terminal related. Sorry if it is off-topic, I have tried all kinds of things to get this right. this is both mutt and terminal issue If an incoming mail contains accents or other non-ascii things, they seem to show up as '?' or even blanks within mutt. This is most annoying. For instance if I look at a 'From' line in a mail that displays perfectly in Evolution mail (contains two different 'e' accents), it shows: From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?H=E9l=E8ne_Corthals?= [EMAIL PROTECTED] looks like you have $LANG set to C, POSIX, or something like that. what happens if you just cat(1) the message (i. e. view it w/o any intervening program)? i'd guess it won't come up right either. in 'less' on the terminal, and the same line in 'mutt' is displayed as: From: H?el?ne Corthals Again, I have tried to change char-sets in mutt and other settings that I thought might help, all to no avail. Any hints or suggestions are indeed much appreciated! roman@freepuppy ~ 865:1 echo $LANG cs_CZ.ISO8859-2 roman@freepuppy ~ 866:0 grep charset .mail/mutt/muttrc set charset = iso-8859-2 set send_charset = us-ascii:iso-8859-2:utf-8 -- FreeBSD 4.6-STABLE 1:41PM up 21:17, 9 users, load averages: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00
Re: Display of non-ascii chars
Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2002 13:58:48 +0200 From: Erik van der Meulen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Display of non-ascii chars On Wed, Jul 31, 2002 at 01:46:24PM +0200, Roman Neuhauser wrote: looks like you have $LANG set to C, POSIX, or something like that. what happens if you just cat(1) the message (i. e. view it w/o any intervening program)? i'd guess it won't come up right either. Thanks a lot for your reply. You are right. It comes up just like in 'less' ok, so it's your terminal (or rather, environment) that's not set up as you need. roman@freepuppy ~ 865:1 echo $LANG cs_CZ.ISO8859-2 Mine gives (as you had guessed) 'C' From this I deduce that my problem is in the $LANG. yes Any suggestion on how and where to change that? I am on a Debian 2.2 box. you can fix it by % setenv LANG en_US.ISO8859-1 or % export LANG=en_US.ISO8859-1 depending on the type of shell you use. permanent fix lies in your shell's start up files. export $LANG with appropriate value from there. -- FreeBSD 4.6-STABLE 2:12PM up 21:48, 9 users, load averages: 0.03, 0.05, 0.01
Re: Display of non-ascii chars
On Wed, Jul 31, 2002 at 02:16:09PM +0200, Roman Neuhauser wrote: % setenv LANG en_US.ISO8859-1 or % export LANG=en_US.ISO8859-1 depending on the type of shell you use. permanent fix lies in your shell's start up files. export $LANG with appropriate value from there. Thanks a mil! I have added this to my .bash_profile and it seems to work just fine! (and since we are performing magic here anyway, you wouldn't happen to know of a way to COMPOSE such characters, rather than just reading them?) Much obliged. -- Erik van der Meulen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Display of non-ascii chars
Thanks a mil! I have added this to my .bash_profile and it seems to work just fine! (and since we are performing magic here anyway, you wouldn't happen to know of a way to COMPOSE such characters, rather than just reading them?) If you use the vim editor for composing messages, then you can set up digraphs to enter non-ASCII characters; it also supports a completely general but more awkward input method where you can type control-V followed by the decimal character code of the character you want, or the letter 'u' followed by the hexadecimal Unicode code point. Any more general solution for use outside of your editor depends even more on the environment in which you are running mutt. If you're running it in an X terminal program on the console of the Unix box, for instance, you can set up an XIM (X Input Manager) server, or manually remap certain key combinations via the xmodmap program. If you're connecting from a terminal program on a Windows box, then you can usually install international virtual keyboard layouts and switch between them with hotkeys or a system tray icon. There's also the vim-like solution of holding down the Alt key and typing a decimal character code on the numeric keypad (although that only works for 8-bit values, not Unicode code points); and of course you can always paste from the Character Map system accessory. -- Mark REED| CNN Internet Technology 1 CNN Center Rm SW0831G | [EMAIL PROTECTED] Atlanta, GA 30348 USA | +1 404 827 4754 -- Steele's Plagiarism of Somebody's Philosophy: Everybody should believe in something -- and I believe I'll have another drink.
