Re: Fwd: RE: looking for a mail client

1999-08-12 Thread rex
On Mon, Aug 09, 1999 at 10:34:30PM +0200, Thomas Roessler wrote: On 1999-08-09 12:43:07 -0700, rex wrote: I don't mind -- too much -- having to spend a couple of hours reading enough about procmail A couple of hours? In doc/pgp-notes.txt, there is a recipe readily available for cut

Re: Fwd: RE: looking for a mail client

1999-08-10 Thread Thomas Roessler
On 1999-08-09 12:43:07 -0700, rex wrote: I don't mind -- too much -- having to spend a couple of hours reading enough about procmail A couple of hours? In doc/pgp-notes.txt, there is a recipe readily available for cut paste. to get it working, because it's a useful program for other

Re: Fwd: RE: looking for a mail client

1999-08-10 Thread Thomas Roessler
On 1999-08-09 15:22:07 -0700, rex wrote: - When your mail user agent doesn't support PGP, it has no decent access to the signed text. Not very nice. But I don't understand this. The signature is just part of the message and doesn't interfere with reading the signed part of the message

Re: Fwd: RE: looking for a mail client

1999-08-09 Thread Jeremy Blosser
rex [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: On Sun, Aug 08, 1999 at 10:42:36PM -0500, Jeremy Blosser wrote: Shao Zhang [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: But, what about outgoing messages? If I pgp sign a mail to a friend who is using pine as his MUA. When he views the attachment, pine will complain it is an

Re: Fwd: RE: looking for a mail client

1999-08-09 Thread Martin Schröder
On 1999-08-09 02:34:31 -0500, Jeremy Blosser wrote: IMO, Mutt is following an elitist path on this issue which is hurting Mutt and the PGP user community. Let's face it, PGP is far more important to freedom than Mutt, and intentionally making PGP harder to use is a serious mistake. Who

Re: Fwd: RE: looking for a mail client

1999-08-09 Thread brian moore
On Sun, Aug 08, 1999 at 11:38:32PM -0700, rex wrote: On Sun, Aug 08, 1999 at 10:42:36PM -0500, Jeremy Blosser wrote: This is technically a bug in pine. If Mutt repeats this bug, we don't make any progress. People using pine should bug the developers to fix it if they care about it.

Re: Fwd: RE: looking for a mail client

1999-08-09 Thread Thomas Roessler
On 1999-08-08 23:38:32 -0700, rex wrote: Why do you call a convention that was in use worldwide for several years and perfectly functional, a bug? While it's not an actual bug, it's _not_ perfectly functional. There are several issues with traditional cleartext PGP signatures: - When your

Re: Fwd: RE: looking for a mail client

1999-08-09 Thread rex
On Mon, Aug 09, 1999 at 12:18:17PM +0200, Thomas Roessler wrote: On 1999-08-08 23:38:32 -0700, rex wrote: Why do you call a convention that was in use worldwide for several years and perfectly functional, a bug? While it's not an actual bug, it's _not_ perfectly functional. There are

Re: Fwd: RE: looking for a mail client

1999-08-08 Thread Jeremy Blosser
Shao Zhang [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: Jeremy Blosser [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: The best way to handle this is to educate people as to why the old way is bad and push them to push the people who make their MUA to fix it. Agreed. This guy's problem sounds like not realizing that he can

Re: Fwd: RE: looking for a mail client

1999-08-08 Thread rex
On Sun, Aug 08, 1999 at 10:42:36PM -0500, Jeremy Blosser wrote: Shao Zhang [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: But, what about outgoing messages? If I pgp sign a mail to a friend who is using pine as his MUA. When he views the attachment, pine will complain it is an unknown attachment and will ask