Re: NNTP ?
Xavier Maillard hat am Do 14. Nov, 05:58 (+0100) geschrieben: > On Wed, Nov 13, 2019 at 06:10:06PM +0100, Wim wrote: > > Hi Xavier, > > > > > > > So, I just started my trip in the Mutt world. So far, I like it. Just > > > > > a quickie: does mutt support NNTP as well ? > > > > Neomutt which supports NNTP might be what you're looking for: > > Seems like, yes. > > Except it has more (?) features than mutt, is it under heavy development > ? I do not want to install yet another tool if it ends being not that > alive :) Yes, it's under heavy development. There was a release of a big rewrite a few days ago. Regards Jörg -- »Das ist wie mit allen Löschfunktionen im Internet: Du kannst Dir nur sichern seien, dass es auf Deinem Rechner verschwunden ist. An alle anderen ist es eine Bitte.« signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: NNTP ?
On Wed, Nov 13, 2019 at 06:10:06PM +0100, Wim wrote: > Hi Xavier, > > > > > So, I just started my trip in the Mutt world. So far, I like it. Just > > > > a quickie: does mutt support NNTP as well ? > > Neomutt which supports NNTP might be what you're looking for: Seems like, yes. Except it has more (?) features than mutt, is it under heavy development ? I do not want to install yet another tool if it ends being not that alive :) Regards -- - xma GPG: BA4909B7 8F04DE1B
Re: NNTP ?
Hi Xavier, > > > So, I just started my trip in the Mutt world. So far, I like it. Just > > > a quickie: does mutt support NNTP as well ? Neomutt which supports NNTP might be what you're looking for: https://neomutt.org All the best Wim -- |\ _,,,---,,_ ZZZzz /,`.-'`'-. ;-;;,_ |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-' '---''(_/--' `-'\_)
Re: NNTP ?
On 2019-11-12 16:32, Will Yardley wrote: > On Tue, Nov 12, 2019 at 09:49:41PM +0100, Xavier Maillard wrote: > > > > So, I just started my trip in the Mutt world. So far, I like it. Just > > a quickie: does mutt support NNTP as well ? > > Without a patch, I don't think so. > > I haven't had a usenet feed for a long time, but a lot of mutt users use > things like SLRN. You can always write a rather simple script to fetch your articles and email them to yourself. I can point you to my script if you like. The C program "suck" can be part of the solution, but it is not the cleanest work of engineering out there. On the posting side you can use a remailer like dizum.com. -- Please don't Cc: me privately on mailing lists and Usenet, if you also post the followup to the list or newsgroup. To reply privately _only_ on Usenet and on broken lists which rewrite From, fetch the TXT record for no-use.mooo.com.
Re: NNTP ?
On 12.11.19,16:32, Will Yardley wrote: > On Tue, Nov 12, 2019 at 09:49:41PM +0100, Xavier Maillard wrote: > > > > So, I just started my trip in the Mutt world. So far, I like it. Just > > a quickie: does mutt support NNTP as well ? > > Without a patch, I don't think so. > > I haven't had a usenet feed for a long time, but a lot of mutt users use > things like SLRN. > > w The most recent nntp patch seems to be here: https://mutt.org.ua/download/mutt-1.12.1/ https://mutt.org.ua/download/ http://andreberger.eu/?p=68 Some install instructions in German here: http://www.strcat.de/eigenes/mutt.html Jostein
Re: NNTP ?
On Tue, Nov 12, 2019 at 09:49:41PM +0100, Xavier Maillard wrote: > > So, I just started my trip in the Mutt world. So far, I like it. Just > a quickie: does mutt support NNTP as well ? Without a patch, I don't think so. I haven't had a usenet feed for a long time, but a lot of mutt users use things like SLRN. w
NNTP ?
Hello, this is my first post here so apologize if I am not doing it right. So, I just started my trip in the Mutt world. So far, I like it. Just a quickie: does mutt support NNTP as well ? I have read a lot and a thing named neomutt (a fork ?) has support (not sure). Thanks. -- - xma GPG: BA4909B7 8F04DE1B
Re: NNTP reader?
On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 10:12:22PM -0300, Aaron Toponce wrote: I love it when something someone doesn't agree with gets tagged as trolling. Meh. I love it when something that's trolling gets tagged as trolling. Seriously... you posted an e-mail in a public forum whose sole content was to proclaim that a long-time and respected member of the community misused the term operating system in his post. So, let's see... * Off topic, for both the thread and this list? Check. * Contains language which is incendiary or expected to produce an emotional response? (Not sure how butting in to tell someone flatly that their usage of terminology is wrong could not be viewed that way.) Check. * Argumentative without making a useful point? Check. * Contributes zero to the OP's (or any) discussion? Check. * text book definition of trolling? Check. So there you have it. Your post was trolling, by definition. I tried to be nicer about pointing out that you were trolling, but you weren't having any of that... I suspect most people would agree that your suggestion that the way David used Linux and Operating System together was inappropriate is rather silly, but sadly that can not be proven. Tell you what, you install just the Linux kernel, and nothing more, on your laptop, and tell me just how usable your operating system is. Trolling in the very e-mail where one attempts to suggest that one is not trolling: Priceless™ Have a lovely day. -- Derek D. Martinhttp://www.pizzashack.org/ GPG Key ID: 0xDFBEAD02 -=-=-=-=- This message is posted from an invalid address. Replying to it will result in undeliverable mail due to spam prevention. Sorry for the inconvenience. pgpR5Ro4QGGSl.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: NNTP reader?
Hello, On Mon, Oct 03, 2011 at 12:49:20PM -0500, Derek Martin wrote: On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 02:46:43PM -0600, Aaron Toponce wrote: Linux is a kernel, not an operating system. I suggest you not go there (like, ever). This statement is at least arguably false on several levels, Well, Linux is just a kernel, there's nothing to argue about. Mutt is MUA, not a framework for MUA/NNTPUA/whatever-you-like. Hope you get it. On the other hand, both are free as in free speech, so you are obviously free to tailor them to your liking, producing Linux-as-a-system, or mutt-as-a-framework. Please don't forget then, that mutt and Linux Developers are also free to either accept or reject you patches and this will serve as a indicator of Linux's as-a-systemness or mutt's as-a-frameworkiness in public opinion. -- With best regards, xrgtn
Please drop this [was: NNTP reader?]
On Tue, Oct 04, 2011 at 09:26:32AM +0300, Alexander Gattin wrote: On Mon, Oct 03, 2011 at 12:49:20PM -0500, Derek Martin wrote: On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 02:46:43PM -0600, Aaron Toponce wrote: Linux is a kernel, not an operating system. I suggest you not go there (like, ever). This statement is at least arguably false on several levels, Well, Linux is just a kernel, there's nothing to argue about. Mutt is MUA, not a framework for MUA/NNTPUA/whatever-you-like. Hope you get it. This is off-topic, and it's a tired old argument that's been debated more than enough elsewhere, in more appropriate forums. The positions of both sides of the debate are well known, and no one here is adding anything to it. Can all of you please drop it now. If you *must* have this argument, take it off list. This is the *mutt-users* mailing list, not a debating list. Until now, it's been a remarkably polite, friendly, and helpful list. As a long-time mutt user, who's found this list extremely helpful on more than one occasion, I'd appreciate it if you didn't spoil it. Thanks, Toby -- Dr T. S. Cubitt Mathematics and Quantum Information group Department of Mathematics Complutense University Madrid, Spain email: ts...@cantab.net web: www.dr-qubit.org
Re: Please drop this [was: NNTP reader?]
* On 04 Oct 2011, Toby Cubitt wrote: This is off-topic, and it's a tired old argument that's been debated more than enough elsewhere, in more appropriate forums. The positions of both I brought Linux up as a metaphor for whether mutt can or ought not to be a news reader. I picked Linux because most mutt users use it, but the same point could have been with Solaris or FreeBSD or (even more sharply) Windows, so this bend isn't germane to the topic. I agree, let's let it go. -- David Champion • d...@uchicago.edu • IT Services • University of Chicago
Re: NNTP reader?
On 2011-09-30, Aaron Toponce aaron.topo...@gmail.com wrote: On 09/29/2011 06:17 AM, Leonardo M. Ramé wrote: Hi, does anyone knows if it can be possible to read/subscribe to newsgroups (nntp) with mutt?. Mutt is just an MUA, and attempts to extend it into anything more than that (RSS reader, NNTP reader, etc.) are silly IMO. If you must absolutely have NNTP and mail, then Mutt isn't for you. I would recommend using Gnus (http://gnus.org). Many mutt users find slrn to be sufficiently mutt-like that they decide to forget about trying to pound the mutt peg into the nntp hole. -- Grant Edwards grant.b.edwardsYow! I'm using my X-RAY at VISION to obtain a rare gmail.comglimpse of the INNER WORKINGS of this POTATO!!
Re: NNTP reader?
On Mon, Oct 03, 2011 at 02:33:45PM +, Grant Edwards wrote: On 2011-09-30, Aaron Toponce aaron.topo...@gmail.com wrote: On 09/29/2011 06:17 AM, Leonardo M. Ram? wrote: Hi, does anyone knows if it can be possible to read/subscribe to newsgroups (nntp) with mutt?. Mutt is just an MUA, and attempts to extend it into anything more than that (RSS reader, NNTP reader, etc.) are silly IMO. If you must absolutely have NNTP and mail, then Mutt isn't for you. I would recommend using Gnus (http://gnus.org). Many mutt users find slrn to be sufficiently mutt-like that they decide to forget about trying to pound the mutt peg into the nntp hole. Personally I use tin rather than slrn as it seems to fit my 'mutt mind' better. -- Chris Green
Re: NNTP reader?
On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 02:46:43PM -0600, Aaron Toponce wrote: On 09/30/2011 01:04 PM, David Champion wrote: Linux is just a server platform, and attempts to make it anything more than that (desktop, embedded system, etc.) are silly. If you must absolutely have POSIX and a desktop, then Linux isn't for you. I would recomend using MacOS (http://apple.com). Linux is a kernel, not an operating system. I suggest you not go there (like, ever). This statement is at least arguably false on several levels, and its truth value really depends on the definitions of some terms that at best have been somewhat fluid over time or variable depending on what authority you use... It's more the matter of religious dogma than technical or literal fact, and practically speaking, it matters not at all... All but the most neophyte of readers (and probably most of those even, I would guess) will understand what was meant. -- Derek D. Martinhttp://www.pizzashack.org/ GPG Key ID: 0xDFBEAD02 -=-=-=-=- This message is posted from an invalid address. Replying to it will result in undeliverable mail due to spam prevention. Sorry for the inconvenience. pgpvbCiS2VVGY.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: NNTP reader?
On Mon, Oct 03, 2011 at 01:39:11PM -0600, Aaron Toponce wrote: On Mon, Oct 03, 2011 at 12:49:20PM -0500, Derek Martin wrote: Linux is a kernel, not an operating system. I suggest you not go there (like, ever). This statement is at least arguably false on several levels, and its truth value really depends on the definitions of some terms that at best have been somewhat fluid over time or variable depending on what authority you use... It's more the matter of religious dogma than technical or literal fact, and practically speaking, it matters not at all... All but the most neophyte of readers (and probably most of those even, I would guess) will understand what was meant. Oh brother. This has nothing to do with religious dogma. It's a kernel. That's it. It's an operating system kernel. Plain and simple. Read this in case you think otherwise: https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Linux_kernel Oh brother indeed. I'm doing a (free) operating system (just a hobby, won't be big and professional like gnu) for 386(486) AT clones. This has been brewing since April, and is starting to get ready. I'd like any feedback on things people like/dislike in minix, as my OS resembles it somewhat (same physical layout of the file-system (due to practical reasons) among other things). 1. Linus himself calls it an operating system, in that very document to which you referred. 2. Multiple learning materials I used as text books in computer sience and technology classes in college 100 years ago and my own leisure reading defined the operating system as the kernel. 3. There exist a whole classification of products which bear the Linux name which are not just the Linux Kernel, which collectively are referred to as Linux by most of the industry (except for GNU bigots^H^H^H^H^H^Henthusiasts). So again, your statement is at least arguably false, on multiple levels. As I said. You can argue these are all wrong if you want to, but I can find legitimate authorities to refute that as easily as you can find them to support it. So again, it's dogma, not fact. I put legitimate authorities in quotes because we have no language police, other than those self-appointed to the task. There are no true bona fide authorities, only historical usage. Which is fine, because words obtain their meanings in that fashion. -- Derek D. Martinhttp://www.pizzashack.org/ GPG Key ID: 0xDFBEAD02 -=-=-=-=- This message is posted from an invalid address. Replying to it will result in undeliverable mail due to spam prevention. Sorry for the inconvenience. pgpkuxKN7Qe40.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: NNTP reader?
On Mon, Oct 03, 2011 at 03:13:54PM -0500, Derek Martin wrote: I put legitimate authorities in quotes because we have no language police ...unless you live in France, Belgium, Switzerland, or Quebec. =8^) -- Derek D. Martinhttp://www.pizzashack.org/ GPG Key ID: 0xDFBEAD02 -=-=-=-=- This message is posted from an invalid address. Replying to it will result in undeliverable mail due to spam prevention. Sorry for the inconvenience. pgpZy2IQTGmUm.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: NNTP reader?
On Mon, Oct 03, 2011 at 03:31:37PM -0600, Aaron Toponce wrote: Legitimate authorities categorized Pluto a planet, even though many in the scientific community would argue otherwise. Of course, legitimate authorities are never wrong, are they? That is exactly my point, thanks for making it. Or perhaps your own authority on this topic is somehow irrefutable and inscrutable? Oh, right, you have wikipedia on your side, which everyone knows is, in fact, irrefutable and inscrutable. I forgot. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux Linux is a computer operating system which is based on free and open source software. Linux is a leading server operating system, and runs the 10 fastest supercomputers in the world. What you are arguing is semantics, and that's never terribly a productive use of your time. Calling someone out for using a word in a way that you personally don't agree with even though you understood perfectly well what was meant is equally unproductive and pointless, except perhaps to massage your own ego. Doing so when the that usage of the term clearly has copious extant examples demonstrating accepted usage, as in this case (googling the *exact phrase* Linux operating system yeilds 4.7 MILLION results), is just trolling. And that, IMO, does deserve to be called out. -- Derek D. Martinhttp://www.pizzashack.org/ GPG Key ID: 0xDFBEAD02 -=-=-=-=- This message is posted from an invalid address. Replying to it will result in undeliverable mail due to spam prevention. Sorry for the inconvenience. pgpZtLbVsfeCM.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: NNTP reader?
Aaron Toponce aaron.topo...@gmail.com writes: On 09/29/2011 06:17 AM, Leonardo M. Ramé wrote: Hi, does anyone knows if it can be possible to read/subscribe to newsgroups (nntp) with mutt?. Mutt is just an MUA, and attempts to extend it into anything more than that (RSS reader, NNTP reader, etc.) are silly IMO. If you must absolutely have NNTP and mail, then Mutt isn't for you. I would recommend using Gnus (http://gnus.org). Gnus is too slow. (Yes, I use it, I tolerate it) I won't recommend Gnus if you really like mutt, I don't like mutt very much so I switched. As for an NNTP reader, try slrn. -- Carl Lei (XeCycle) Department of Physics, Shanghai Jiao Tong University OpenPGP public key: 7795E591 Fingerprint: 1FB6 7F1F D45D F681 C845 27F7 8D71 8EC4 7795 E591
Re: NNTP reader?
On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 08:42:24AM -0600, Aaron Toponce wrote: On 09/29/2011 06:17 AM, Leonardo M. Ramé wrote: Hi, does anyone knows if it can be possible to read/subscribe to newsgroups (nntp) with mutt?. Mutt is just an MUA, and attempts to extend it into anything more than that (RSS reader, NNTP reader, etc.) are silly IMO. If you must absolutely have NNTP and mail, then Mutt isn't for you. I would recommend using Gnus (http://gnus.org). I didn't see the start of this thread so sorry if this is a repeat... There is an NNTP patch for mutt, and some people swear by it. There are a lot of arguments against the patch, but integrating mail and NNTP is not such a crazy idea... fundamentally they're basically the same thing, with a lot of the same types of operations and behaviors. There obviously are important differences though, and mutt just wasn't really written with that in mind, so the integration (codewise) is a bit clunky. You can find out about the NNTP patch, and a bunch of other useful patches, here: http://wiki.mutt.org/?PatchList -- Derek D. Martinhttp://www.pizzashack.org/ GPG Key ID: 0xDFBEAD02 -=-=-=-=- This message is posted from an invalid address. Replying to it will result in undeliverable mail due to spam prevention. Sorry for the inconvenience. pgpI7ZTflmm0Y.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: NNTP reader?
* On 30 Sep 2011, Aaron Toponce wrote: On 09/29/2011 06:17 AM, Leonardo M. Ramé wrote: Hi, does anyone knows if it can be possible to read/subscribe to newsgroups (nntp) with mutt?. Mutt is just an MUA, and attempts to extend it into anything more than that (RSS reader, NNTP reader, etc.) are silly IMO. If you must absolutely have NNTP and mail, then Mutt isn't for you. I would recommend using Gnus (http://gnus.org). Linux is just a server platform, and attempts to make it anything more than that (desktop, embedded system, etc.) are silly. If you must absolutely have POSIX and a desktop, then Linux isn't for you. I would recomend using MacOS (http://apple.com). No doubt some people would agree with that, but there are thousands who do not and hundreds who are working precisely in opposition to that sentiment. Why is this different? The vvv NNTP patch works quite well, if you're comfortable compiling mutt for yourself. I quit reading Usenet a few years back and haven't been building in NNTP support since, but it was a good solution for me at the time. http://mutt.org.ua/download/ -- David Champion • d...@uchicago.edu • IT Services • University of Chicago
Re: NNTP reader?
Leonardo M. Ramé wrote (Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 09:53:32AM -0300): That could what I'm looking for. It would be nice to let slrn store the results in different mbox folders, so I can access them using mutt. I used this method a while back to read Usenet newsgroups. Have attached a script that I used at the time, in case it's of any use to you as a starting point. mandar. #!/bin/tcsh set slrnpull = /usr/bin/slrnpull set newsdir = /var/spool/slrnpull/news/rec/music/indian/classical set logfile = /tmp/slrnpull.mandar #set host = news.cs.tu-berlin.de set host = dp-news.maxwell.syr.edu $slrnpull --expire --logfile $logfile cd $newsdir foreach f (`/bin/ls [0-9]*`) /usr/bin/formail -a Article: $f of rec.music.indian.classical -I Path: $f ! $HOME/News/rmic.slrn /bin/rm $f sleep 1 end echo $logfile $slrnpull -h $host --logfile $logfile /bin/mail mandar -s slrnpull log $logfile /bin/rm $logfile
Re: NNTP reader?
* David Champion schrieb am Freitag, den 30. September 2011: Linux is just a server platform, [...] I would recomend using MacOS (http://apple.com). Yes, Linux is the OS without a GUI and MacOS ist the OS with a GUI¹ ;) Andreas -- ¹ GUI = Girls Use It
NNTP reader?
Hi, does anyone knows if it can be possible to read/subscribe to newsgroups (nntp) with mutt?. I've read there are third-party patches for this, but I would like to find an easier way. -- Leonardo M. Ramé http://leonardorame.blogspot.com
Re: NNTP reader?
29 сентября 2011, 16:17 от Leonardo M. Ramé l.r...@griensu.com: I've read there are third-party patches for this, but I would like to find an easier way. There are some software which tansforms nntp to mail (send to mailbox or present as IMAP), but I would not call it an easier way. At leas for me it was easier to patch and rebuild mutt than get such software working in proper way. The patch works quite good and stable. -- Max
Re: NNTP reader?
* Leonardo M. Ramé schrieb am Donnerstag, den 29. September 2011: Hi, does anyone knows if it can be possible to read/subscribe to newsgroups (nntp) with mutt?. Only read? If you pull the articles of a newsgroup with slrnpull, you can read they e.g. with $ mutt -f .slrn/spool/news/de/rec/film/misc Andreas
Re: NNTP reader?
On 2011-09-29 14:42:44 +0200, Andreas Kneib wrote: * Leonardo M. Ramé schrieb am Donnerstag, den 29. September 2011: Hi, does anyone knows if it can be possible to read/subscribe to newsgroups (nntp) with mutt?. Only read? If you pull the articles of a newsgroup with slrnpull, you can read they e.g. with $ mutt -f .slrn/spool/news/de/rec/film/misc Andreas That could what I'm looking for. It would be nice to let slrn store the results in different mbox folders, so I can access them using mutt. -- Leonardo M. Ramé http://leonardorame.blogspot.com
reading slrnpull'd / nntp datastore
I use slrnpull to fetch several mailing list archives from gmane. The directories contain a bunch of loose files, not organized like a Maildir. But using mutt 1.5.18, I could just open the resulting folders in mutt and everything showed up like it was a mailbox. However, since I switched to mutt 1.5.20, now the folders open up empty. Reverting back to mutt 1.5.18 shows all the articles are still there and visible to the older mutt. I assumed I had left out some compile switch when upgrading, or the compile-time defaults had changed. However, mutt -v on my new and old versions of mutt give the same list of compile-time switches. Also, my distro's packaged version of mutt 1.5.20 (distro is Arch Linux) can't see the slrnpull'd files either. Anyone have ideas how I can get the earlier behavior with the current mutt? -- Jim Pryor j...@jimpryor.net
is there a way to interrupt mutt while downloading messages from nntp server
I think I could interrupt mutt some times but I can't when it is downloading messages from an news server. Is there a way I can stop it other than killing and restarting it? Thanks, Malahal.
Mutt as hybrid mailbox/NNTP client
Is there a way to use Mutt as a hybrid news client, which would send your posts through NNTP but read other people's posts from a mailbox file, instead of retrieving them through NNTP or fishing them out of a slrnpull-style, one-file-per-article spool ? Retrieval would be done by something like slrnpull or leafnode (or INN ?) except that it would append the articles to a single mailbox-format file as opposed to creating one file per article. Killfile and off-line posting not needed. -- André Majorel URL:http://www.teaser.fr/~amajorel/ Do not use this account for regular correspondence. See the URL above for contact information.
Re: nntp
Le mer 04 jun 03 à 13:17, Loïc Minier a écrit: Sébastien Mengin [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Wed, Jun 04, 2003: Maintenant ils sont triés par date par défaut. J'aimerais bien retrouvé mon tri par objet + date avec l'arborescence... set sort=threads Plus malin et les options sort_aux, et sort_browser : # Default sort method folder-hook . set sort=threads # Threads are sorted by date folder-hook . set sort_aux=date # Sort alphabetically while browsing files set sort_browser=alpha # Some sorting rules on folder-hooks folder-hook sent/* set sort=date Magnifique :-) Merci pour tout cela. -- Loïc Minier [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Sébastien
Re: nntp
On Tue, Jun 03, 2003 at 02:03:40PM +0200, Sébastien Mengin wrote: Maintenant mutt me sert les news, mais il semble un peu fragilisé du coup : plusieurs fois de suite il me fait des erreurs de segmentations :-/ Chose qu'il ne me faisait jamais avant... Je me donne quelques jours de tests pour voir comment il réagit dans la durée. J'ai eu le même problème, pendant les 2, 3 premiers jours d'utilisation, puis je l'ai jamais re-eu. Je pas à quoi c'était dû mais depuis pas le moindre soucis à signaler. -- Bernard Massot pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: nntp
Sébastien Mengin [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Wed, Jun 04, 2003: Maintenant ils sont triés par date par défaut. J'aimerais bien retrouvé mon tri par objet + date avec l'arborescence... set sort=threads Plus malin et les options sort_aux, et sort_browser : # Default sort method folder-hook . set sort=threads # Threads are sorted by date folder-hook . set sort_aux=date # Sort alphabetically while browsing files set sort_browser=alpha # Some sorting rules on folder-hooks folder-hook sent/* set sort=date -- Loïc Minier [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mutt-nntp from cron
Hi! I'm using Orjan's nntp-patch and am very happy with it. As I'm on a dial-up connection most of the time, I'm using the offline mode which spools outgoing posts to a file, and NNTPPost delivers it when triggered from a script in /etc/ppp/ip-up.d/ (Debian). Another script there fetches mail, executing /usr/bin/mutt -R -F /etc/muttnewsrc as user, with /etc/muttnewsrc being folder-hook . push Bxy so mutt starts read-only non-changing mailboxes, doing B which fetches the news, and then quits non-changing. So this works, the same when /usr/bin/mutt -R -F /etc/muttnewsrc is executed from the command line as user. The problem is, it doesn't work when executed from a user's crontab. I edit it with crontab -e and add */2 * * * * /usr/bin/mutt -R -F /etc/muttnewsrc /dev/null 21 (one line). The /dev/null 21 part is to prevent cron from sending mail on job execution. What am I missing here? -Andre msg30407/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: mutt-nntp from cron
* Andre Berger [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-08-21 14:29]: .. The problem is, it doesn't work when executed from a user's crontab. I edit it with crontab -e and add */2 * * * * /usr/bin/mutt -R -F /etc/muttnewsrc /dev/null 21 (one line). The /dev/null 21 part is to prevent cron from sending mail on job execution. What am I missing here? */2? hmm... perhaps you should run it *with* some output so you can see the error message? and why not use something like slrnpull to get new news? Sven
Re: MUTT AND NNTP
Hi, * Doug Lawlor [02-07-02 17:16:16 +0200] wrote: Hello, Justed downloaded mutt 1.4 and am interested in patching in NNTP support. which is the best NNTP patch to use? I understand that more than one exists. Well, it depends on you and what you like. I personally use 'vvv.nntp' and like it, but I hear that other patches work equally good. I suggest giving them all a try. I've some kind of documentation for the vvv.nntp patch (describing which variables are new and what they're for, new commands,...): http://www.inf.tu-dresden.de/~s1118644/mutt-and-news.html HTH, Cheers, Rocco
Re: MUTT AND NNTP
I have the vvv.nntp patched in here. It's quite nice. Thanks for the documentation. Doug -- Doug Lawlor [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MUTT AND NNTP
Hello, Justed downloaded mutt 1.4 and am interested in patching in NNTP support. which is the best NNTP patch to use? I understand that more than one exists. Thanks in advance, Doug -- Doug Lawlor [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [mutt-nntp] inline images
--xHFwDpU9dbj6ez1V Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable * Rocco Rutte [EMAIL PROTECTED], 2002-06-07 23:49 -0400: Hi, =20 * Andre Berger [02-06-08 04:45:05 +0200] wrote: How can I view inline images like =20 --begin example-- =20 begin 666 car30001.jpg M_]C_X `02D9)1@`!`0```0`!``#_X2'317AI9@``24DJ``@(``\!`@`6 [snip] ;17D$:2OL,:D@G/\ZZ!BR\G-,*U5'=3DW/_9 ` end =20 --end example-- =20 in mutt-nntp (Orjan's patch)? I tried to pipe the message to xv and the like but it seems those image viewers don't recognoze the STDIN. Probably my setup... =20 Ever tried uudecode(1)? You can just pipe the article through it and should get the files. Maybe you want to use a short shell script as a wrapper which also sets=20 the download directory for your ware^H^H^Hfiles. =20 If you clean the directory up afterwards, you can use=20 the output of ls to call your image viewer. =20 It could look similar to: =20 #!/bin/sh dir=3D$HOME/tmp/downloads/warez cd $dir uudecode -c xv `ls $dir/*.jpg` =20 HTH, Cheers, Rocco It did. Though my uudecode doesn't support the -c flag. So my solution is: macro pager \cV decode-copy/tmp/nntp.tempenteryshell-escapeuudeview = -i -b -p /tmp/ -d /tmp/nntp.temp gqview /tmp/ rm /tmp/nntp.temp\n B= ilder ansehen (Inline) which makes a decoded copy /tmp/nntp.temp, calls uudeview (which decodes everything it can w/o asking into /tmp/), calls gqview (an image viewer) on /tmp/ so that I can see/save/whatever images in /tmp, and finally removes the decoded msg /tmp/nntp.temp Thank you very much -Andre --xHFwDpU9dbj6ez1V Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE9AaWGWkhBtALlJZ0RAtP/AKC5tJJ02Hoiao5xOsQGn26OIlyPfwCeJ/Em dLbc8xyr3KrshHOY2c5U7rw= =QTht -END PGP SIGNATURE- --xHFwDpU9dbj6ez1V--
Re: [mutt-nntp] inline images
Hi, * Andre Berger [02-06-08 08:45:05 +0200] wrote: It did. Though my uudecode doesn't support the -c flag. So my solution is: On my system (FreeBSD 4.5-p6) 'uudecode -c' extracts all parts instead of only the first. I usually don't pass a filename as an argument since a) there may be multiple files and b) why not use the name given. I don't have 'uudeview' but if it supports extracting everything to a specific folder using the original filenames, you can just save your news articles to a dedicated directory at once (tag the messages and save them). Vvv.nntp (the nntp patch I use) saves them to a mbox folder and I simply run 'uudecode -c /path/to/file' to extract everything at once. The advantage is that you don't waste server capacities (which doesn't matter if you've got a local one). Anyways, glad to help. Cheers, Rocco msg28750/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [mutt-nntp] inline images
--C7zPtVaVf+AK4Oqc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable * Rocco Rutte [EMAIL PROTECTED], 2002-06-08 09:34 -0400: Hi, =20 * Andre Berger [02-06-08 08:45:05 +0200] wrote: =20 It did. Though my uudecode doesn't support the -c flag. So my solution is: =20 On my system (FreeBSD 4.5-p6) 'uudecode -c' extracts all parts instead of only the first. I usually don't pass a filename as an argument since a) there may be multiple files and b) why not use the name given. My uudecode is out of date, and I have trouble compiling a new one. As I plan to upgrade to Debian 3.0 in the near future, I didn't bother. andre@mir:~$ uudecode -v =20 uudecode - GNU sharutils 4.2.1 andre@mir:~$ uudecode --help Usage: uudecode [FILE]... Mandatory arguments to long options are mandatory to short options too. -h, --help display this help and exit -v, --versionoutput version information and exit -o, --output-file=3DFILE direct output to FILE I don't have 'uudeview' but if it supports extracting everything to a specific folder using the original filenames, you can just save your news articles to a dedicated directory at once (tag the messages and save them). It doesn't keep the original filename, and the images have their original names. Which is potentially problematic only if I want to keep the images of message A, don't put them in my ~/Images folder, and there are images with the same name in message B. Hmm. There is a flag in uudeview that force overwriting existing file, -o.=20 Vvv.nntp (the nntp patch I use) saves them to a mbox folder and I simply run 'uudecode -c /path/to/file' to extract everything at once. That seems to be possible here too, using tagging. Given it would be possible to pipe tagged messages into one file(?). The solution I have now is so far good enough for me, but I might try this out later. The advantage is that you don't waste server capacities (which doesn't matter if you've got a local one). =20 Anyways, glad to help. =20 Cheers, Rocco I appreciate it! A nice weekend to everyone! -Andre --C7zPtVaVf+AK4Oqc Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE9AhAMWkhBtALlJZ0RArmVAKDrpv30Mr4Na0Te25yHAHYz7wLIDgCg3lKM biDvOaTnnHNdV4WjyCNizyU= =aDRI -END PGP SIGNATURE- --C7zPtVaVf+AK4Oqc--
Re: [mutt-nntp] inline images
Hi, * Andre Berger [02-06-08 16:45:04 +0200] wrote: * Rocco Rutte [EMAIL PROTECTED], 2002-06-08 09:34 -0400: My uudecode is out of date, and I have trouble compiling a new one. As I plan to upgrade to Debian 3.0 in the near future, I didn't bother. andre@mir:~$ uudecode -v uudecode - GNU sharutils 4.2.1 Well, it isn't difficult to guess that a Linux distribution ships with a GNU implementation while BSD doesn't. Vvv.nntp (the nntp patch I use) saves them to a mbox folder and I simply run 'uudecode -c /path/to/file' to extract everything at once. That seems to be possible here too, using tagging. Given it would be possible to pipe tagged messages into one file(?). Some problems with word ``pipe'' here. ``Pipe'' means nothing else than catching output of process A and passing it to B as input. So to say, the pipe function in mutt does cat(1) all tagged messages to a command. Of course, if your command (uudeview, uudecode, whatever) can handle multiple encoded files, you can tag-pipe all messages at once. A nice weekend to everyone! ...while it's raining outside all day. Cheers, Rocco
[mutt-nntp] inline images
--azLHFNyN32YCQGCU Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Hi! How can I view inline images like --begin example-- begin 666 car30001.jpg M_]C_X `02D9)1@`!`0```0`!``#_X2'317AI9@``24DJ``(``\!`@`6 [snip] ;17D$:2OL,:D@G/\ZZ!BR\G-,*U5'=W/_9 ` end --end example-- in mutt-nntp (Orjan's patch)? I tried to pipe the message to xv and the like but it seems those image viewers don't recognoze the STDIN. Probably my setup... -Andre --azLHFNyN32YCQGCU Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE9AW4/WkhBtALlJZ0RAvc1AKCs8SUx8eIfRbF1PVADfRKSjHTL+wCdHABs qpzD7qH+texsQEerzV0vSCA= =onPD -END PGP SIGNATURE- --azLHFNyN32YCQGCU--
Re: [mutt-nntp] inline images
Hi, * Andre Berger [02-06-08 04:45:05 +0200] wrote: How can I view inline images like --begin example-- begin 666 car30001.jpg M_]C_X `02D9)1@`!`0```0`!``#_X2'317AI9@``24DJ``(``\!`@`6 [snip] ;17D$:2OL,:D@G/\ZZ!BR\G-,*U5'=W/_9 ` end --end example-- in mutt-nntp (Orjan's patch)? I tried to pipe the message to xv and the like but it seems those image viewers don't recognoze the STDIN. Probably my setup... Ever tried uudecode(1)? You can just pipe the article through it and should get the files. Maybe you want to use a short shell script as a wrapper which also sets the download directory for your ware^H^H^Hfiles. If you clean the directory up afterwards, you can use the output of ls to call your image viewer. It could look similar to: #!/bin/sh dir=$HOME/tmp/downloads/warez cd $dir uudecode -c xv `ls $dir/*.jpg` HTH, Cheers, Rocco msg28746/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
New groups always displayed (VVV-NNTP)
I'm using the VVV-NNTP patch with mutt-1.3.28. How can I disable the displaying of new (not subscribed) groups every time I browse through my subscribed group list? I have to wade through the annoying lot every time I hit Shift-A. -- Drew
Re: New groups always displayed (VVV-NNTP)
To [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How can I disable the displaying of new (not subscribed) groups every time I browse through my subscribed group list? Sigh. I missed show_new_news and show_only_unread in the manual. Maybe all the VVV additions should be moved to a special heading. I also missed http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=mutt-usersm=100331572204846w=2 Thanks for the help! -- Drew
Re: New groups always displayed (VVV-NNTP)
Drew Raines wrote: Drew Raines wrote: How can I disable the displaying of new (not subscribed) groups every time I browse through my subscribed group list? Sigh. I missed show_new_news and show_only_unread in the manual. I retract my self-correction. Even with show_new_news unset, the new groups show up every time I view the group list. The value of nntp_poll matter not, either. -- Drew
Re: New groups always displayed (VVV-NNTP)
Hi, * Drew Raines [04/29/02 23:31:37 CEST] wrote: Drew Raines wrote: Drew Raines wrote: How can I disable the displaying of new (not subscribed) groups every time I browse through my subscribed group list? Sigh. I missed show_new_news and show_only_unread in the manual. I retract my self-correction. Even with show_new_news unset, the new groups show up every time I view the group list. The value of nntp_poll matter not, either. Clear, it isn't possible (AFAIK). They just don't disappear, even if you unsubscribe those groups (I know that you aren't subscribed). What helps is to quit mutt if you see new groups and start over again. This is not the best with a slot connection, I know but the groups get a 'new' flag and are shown until they're not new anymore. Cheers, Rocco. msg27743/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Changing Groups in Mutt/NNTP
Hi, On Wed, Mar 27, 2002 at 11:25:18:AM + Sean Rima wrote: Sorry should have said but yes it is the vvv patch, so thanks a million :) No problem. Pressing '?' for help every now and then will list which key is currently available with description. Rocco msg26478/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Changing Groups in Mutt/NNTP
Hi, On Tue, Mar 26, 2002 at 10:08:33:PM + Sean Rima wrote: I cannot see any details howto change the current Group or even change back to the list of active groups when using Mutt/NNTP Probably does depend on the patch. Which one do you use? I use the vvv.nntp patch. Just move around as in mailboxes, but press 'i' instead of 'c'. Inside a group pressing 'i' and '?' on the prompt for the group should get you back to your list. HTH, Rocco msg26244/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Changing Groups in Mutt/NNTP
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Rocco! On Wed, 27 Mar 2002, Rocco Rutte wrote: Hi, On Tue, Mar 26, 2002 at 10:08:33:PM + Sean Rima wrote: I cannot see any details howto change the current Group or even change back to the list of active groups when using Mutt/NNTP Probably does depend on the patch. Which one do you use? I use the vvv.nntp patch. Just move around as in mailboxes, but press 'i' instead of 'c'. Inside a group pressing 'i' and '?' on the prompt for the group should get you back to your list. Sorry should have said but yes it is the vvv patch, so thanks a million :) Sean - -- Sean Rimahttp://www.tcob1.net Linux User: 231986 Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] THE VIEWS EXPRESSED HERE ARE NOT NECESSARILY THOSE OF MY WIFE. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAjyhrB0ACgkQeR/L2ZZp3E/xigCfTn07BfF8vhDhq1RI5xxb2Yq2 u4MAn1JgfLc9kuVDgWKMUYfG3dRd5oG0 =aVav -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Changing Groups in Mutt/NNTP
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I cannot see any details howto change the current Group or even change back to the list of active groups when using Mutt/NNTP Sean - -- Sean Rimahttp://www.tcob1.net Linux User: 231986 Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] THE VIEWS EXPRESSED HERE ARE NOT NECESSARILY THOSE OF MY WIFE. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAjyg8WAACgkQeR/L2ZZp3E8pxgCfQoxA3GjlDv9PBE1DUeJO5jAq 1Q0An1LtC+jgVXlmved4ux3FZmXMyPBo =QP+i -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: different hooks for Email/Usenet - nntp patch vs BCC?
Hi, On Sat, Mar 23, 2002 at 12:09:40:PM -0500 Andre Berger wrote: * Sven Guckes [EMAIL PROTECTED], 2002-03-22 20:31 -0500: well, does this BCC header get posted, too? if not then I don't a problem.. *shrug* Indirectly: To: undisclosed recipients ; is generated, but no mail is sent. Who does insert it? This is just a thought but in Mutt and in Vsevolod's nntp patch one may specify programs for delivery of mail/news. A short wrapper (maybe Perl) for both could strip of the 'Newsgroups'-header and deliver to sendmail and strip of the 'To:', 'Cc:' and 'Bcc:'-header to deliver to inews. Rocco msg26047/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: different hooks for Email/Usenet - nntp patch vs BCC?
* Sven Guckes [EMAIL PROTECTED], 2002-03-22 20:31 -0500: * Andre Berger [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-03-18 15:51]: Can't you BCC all messages to one address, and filter with procmail? that's what I'm doing :) The problem is, when I post news (nntp-patch), I don't want a Bcc header. well, does this BCC header get posted, too? if not then I don't a problem.. *shrug* Sven Indirectly: To: undisclosed recipients ; is generated, but no mail is sent. -Andre msg25975/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: VVV-NNTP patch send-hook
Drew Raines [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I believe the suggestion was something to the effect of send-hook ! . 'my_hdr Blah: foo' That won't quite work. Internally, Mutt translates the simple pattern . into ~A, which matches everything. Negating that matches nothing, which is the effect you see. A more specific pattern, such as '~t .' might work better, since it is not a simple pattern and may avoid the internal translation. -- David DeSimone | The doctrine of human equality reposes on this: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | that there is no man really clever who has not Hewlett-Packard | found that he is stupid. -- Gilbert K. Chesterson Richardson IT|PGP: 5B 47 34 9F 3B 9A B0 0D AB A6 15 F1 BB BE 8C 44
Re: VVV-NNTP patch send-hook
* Drew Raines [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-03-22 18:01]: What's the equivalent of send-hook when using the NNTP patch? Is there a followup-hook? No. I'd like to add a header for only news postings. send-hook ! ~t . command send-hook ~t . command-default Sven -- Sven Guckes http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/mutt/setup.html Mutt setup from scratch, Sven's sample setup; attribution, limit, list vs subscribe, histories, mailcap, POP, hooks, use of external pagers, troubleshooting, adding header lines, from Mozilla to Mutt.
VVV-NNTP patch send-hook
What's the equivalent of send-hook when using the NNTP patch? Is there a followup-hook? I'd like to add a header for only news postings. -- Drew
Re: VVV-NNTP patch send-hook
Drew -- ...and then Drew Raines said... % % What's the equivalent of send-hook when using the NNTP patch? Is there a % followup-hook? I don't think that there is any such beast. % % I'd like to add a header for only news postings. This came up just recently. I think Sven Guckes, at least, was in the discussion, though I'm not positive. An approach that I recall as successful was to set up a send-hook that only triggered when there is no to: field and set the header in there, turning it off (or changing it) otherwise if to: can match anything. Have a look and see... % % -- % Drew :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! msg25928/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: VVV-NNTP patch send-hook
+ David T-G [EMAIL PROTECTED]: An approach that I recall as successful was to set up a send-hook that only triggered when there is no to: field and set the header in there, turning it off (or changing it) otherwise if to: can match anything. I believe the suggestion was something to the effect of send-hook ! . 'my_hdr Blah: foo' with the assumption that a news post would match because it contains nothing in its To: and Cc: fields. Unfortunately, this doesn't actually match any posts. send-hooks do apparenly affect [P]ost's because the following adds Blah: to news postings: send-hook . 'my_hdr Blah: foo' So I guess it's just a matter of figuring out a correct pattern. -- Drew
send-hook for NNTP folders
Hi, there! I'm doing my first steps on VV's NNTP patch. Great one! :-) But I didn't found out to build a send-hook (for $attribution et al) recognizing when a posting is sent to a newsgroup (via F). I tried send-hook '~h ^Newsgroups:' 'set attribution=%n wrote:' but this did not work: Error in /home/moell/.muttrc, line 274: h: not supported in this mode Can anyone help me? -volker -- http://die-Moells.de/ * http://Stama90.de/ * http://ScriptDale.de/ Hier könnte Ihre Werbung stehen!
Re: send-hook for NNTP folders
On Thu, Feb 07, 2002 at 05:29:03PM +0100, Volker Moell wrote: Hi, there! I'm doing my first steps on VV's NNTP patch. Great one! :-) But I didn't found out to build a send-hook (for $attribution et al) recognizing when a posting is sent to a newsgroup (via F). I tried send-hook '~h ^Newsgroups:' 'set attribution=%n wrote:' but this did not work: Error in /home/moell/.muttrc, line 274: h: not supported in this mode I use the following kludge: ## nothing in To: AND a subject not starting with Fwd [ AND ## subject non-empty means ## probably usenet posting send-hook '!~t. !~s^Fwd:\\\ \\\[ ~s.' set stuff Let me know if you find something better, -- PHEDRE: J'évitais Hippolyte, et tu me l'as fait voir. De quoi te chargeais-tu ? Pourquoi ta bouche impie A-t-elle, en l'accusant, osé noircir sa vie ? (Phèdre, J-B Racine, acte 4, scène 6)
Re: nntp in mutt
On Jan/12/2002, Rob 'Feztaa' Park wrote: Ok, I've recompiled mutt with Vsevolod Volkoy's NNTP patch, and I've been poking around a bit... but I can't for the life of my figure out how to configure mutt for NNTP now that it is compiled properly. Anybody know what I have to do? When you patch the sources of Mutt, the manual is also patched. So, you have a Reading news with mutt (or something alike) section in the manual. Have you checked it out yet? :-? -- Roberto Suarez Soto · The world owes you nothing. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ·It was here first. Corgo/Lugo/Galicia/Spain · (Mark Twain)
Re: nntp in mutt
Alas! Roberto Suarez Soto spake thus: Ok, I've recompiled mutt with Vsevolod Volkoy's NNTP patch, and I've been poking around a bit... but I can't for the life of my figure out how to configure mutt for NNTP now that it is compiled properly. Anybody know what I have to do? When you patch the sources of Mutt, the manual is also patched. So, you have a Reading news with mutt (or something alike) section in the manual. Have you checked it out yet? :-? Which manual? The man page for the muttrc just says that %g expands to the newsgroup if mutt is compiled with nntp support, there is nothing else about nntp in there. -- Rob 'Feztaa' Park [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Science has proof without any certainty. Creationists have certainty without any proof. -- Ashley Montague msg23016/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: nntp in mutt
On 2002.01.12, in [EMAIL PROTECTED], Rob 'Feztaa' Park [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Which manual? The man page for the muttrc just says that %g expands to the newsgroup if mutt is compiled with nntp support, there is nothing else about nntp in there. The mutt man page shows: -G Start Mutt with a listing of subscribed newsgroups. The manual (manual.txt) shows NNTP information in section 2.7, 3.18, and in several 6.3.x sections concerning variables containing nntp and news in their names. 6.3.106 talks about the URL-like syntax supported as a folder naming syntax: nntp[s]://news.server.name/news.group.name -- -D.[EMAIL PROTECTED]NSITUniversity of Chicago
Re: nntp in mutt
Alas! David Champion spake thus: Which manual? The man page for the muttrc just says that %g expands to the newsgroup if mutt is compiled with nntp support, there is nothing else about nntp in there. The mutt man page shows: -G Start Mutt with a listing of subscribed newsgroups. $ mutt -G mutt: invalid option -- G Mutt 1.3.25i (2002-01-01) usage: mutt [ -nRyzZ ] [ -e cmd ] [ -F file ] [ -m type ] [ -f file ] mutt [ -nx ] [ -e cmd ] [ -a file ] [ -F file ] [ -H file ] [ -i file ] [ -s subj ] [ -b addr ] [ -c addr ] addr [ ... ] mutt [ -n ] [ -e cmd ] [ -F file ] -p mutt -v[v] options: ... -g server specify a newsserver (if compiled with NNTP) -Gselect a newsgroup (if compiled with NNTP) ... Very bloody funny. Mutt 1.3.25i (2002-01-01) Copyright (C) 1996-2001 Michael R. Elkins and others. Mutt comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY; for details type `mutt -vv'. Mutt is free software, and you are welcome to redistribute it under certain conditions; type `mutt -vv' for details. System: Linux 2.4.12-386 (i686) [using ncurses 5.2] Compile options: -DOMAIN +DEBUG -HOMESPOOL +USE_SETGID +USE_DOTLOCK +DL_STANDALONE +USE_FCNTL -USE_FLOCK -USE_POP -USE_NNTP -USE_IMAP -USE_GSS -USE_SSL -USE_SASL +HAVE_REGCOMP -USE_GNU_REGEX +HAVE_COLOR +HAVE_START_COLOR +HAVE_TYPEAHEAD +HAVE_BKGDSET +HAVE_CURS_SET +HAVE_META +HAVE_RESIZETERM +HAVE_PGP -BUFFY_SIZE -EXACT_ADDRESS -SUN_ATTACHMENT +ENABLE_NLS -LOCALES_HACK +HAVE_WC_FUNCS +HAVE_LANGINFO_CODESET ++HAVE_LANGINFO_YESEXPR +HAVE_ICONV -ICONV_NONTRANS +HAVE_GETSID -HAVE_GETADDRINFO ISPELL=/usr/bin/ispell SENDMAIL=/usr/sbin/sendmail MAILPATH=/var/mail PKGDATADIR=/usr/local/share/mutt SYSCONFDIR=/usr/local/etc EXECSHELL=/bin/sh -MIXMASTER To contact the developers, please mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]. To report a bug, please use the flea(1) utility. vvv.nntp The manual (manual.txt) shows NNTP information in section 2.7, 3.18, and in several 6.3.x sections concerning variables containing nntp and news in their names. 6.3.106 talks about the URL-like syntax supported as a folder naming syntax: nntp[s]://news.server.name/news.group.name I'm about to read the manual.txt. It seems to have some relevant stuff in it. -- Rob 'Feztaa' Park [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Are we all turning into AOLusers or what? Next thing we know, we'll all be shouting 'Me 2! Me 2!' and someone will have to shoot us... -- Chris King, in A.S.R msg23027/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: nntp in mutt
Alas! David Champion spake thus: The manual (manual.txt) shows NNTP information in section 2.7, 3.18, and Section 2.7: 2.7. Reading news via NNTP If compiled with ``--enable-nntp'' option, Mutt can read news from newsserver via NNTP. You can open a newsgroup with function ``change- newsgroup'' (default: i). Default newsserver can be obtained from NNTPSERVER environment variable. Like other news readers, info about subscribed newsgroups is saved in file by ``$newsrc'' variable. Article headers are cached and can be loaded from file when newsgroup entered instead loading from newsserver. I compiled mutt like this, just now: ./configure --enable-nntp make make install and mutt is acting exactly like nntp was not compiled in: - -g and -G are invalid options - i key is not bound - etc. What is the matter with this thing? *Sigh*. Thanks for your support, guys. -- Rob 'Feztaa' Park [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Television: A medium. So called because it's neither rare nor well done. -- Ernie Kovacs msg23029/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: nntp in mutt
Alas! David Champion spake thus: On 2002.01.12, in [EMAIL PROTECTED], Rob 'Feztaa' Park [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: options: ... -g server specify a newsserver (if compiled with NNTP) -Gselect a newsgroup (if compiled with NNTP) ... Well, note the if compiled with NNTP part - Yes, it was complied with the vvv.nntp patch at the time I sent that message. Compile options: -DOMAIN +DEBUG -HOMESPOOL +USE_SETGID +USE_DOTLOCK +DL_STANDALONE +USE_FCNTL -USE_FLOCK -USE_POP -USE_NNTP -USE_IMAP -USE_GSS -USE_SSL -USE_SASL ^ Did you configure with --enable-nntp? Not at the time I sent that letter, but I've just recompiled it with --enable-nntp and it's still not working. -g and -G are still bad, and the i key (which should do something with nntp according to the manual) is not bound. $ mutt -v Mutt 1.3.25i (2002-01-01) Copyright (C) 1996-2001 Michael R. Elkins and others. Mutt comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY; for details type `mutt -vv'. Mutt is free software, and you are welcome to redistribute it under certain conditions; type `mutt -vv' for details. System: Linux 2.4.12-386 (i686) [using ncurses 5.2] Compile options: -DOMAIN +DEBUG -HOMESPOOL +USE_SETGID +USE_DOTLOCK +DL_STANDALONE +USE_FCNTL -USE_FLOCK -USE_POP -USE_IMAP -USE_GSS -USE_SSL -USE_SASL +HAVE_REGCOMP -USE_GNU_REGEX +HAVE_COLOR +HAVE_START_COLOR +HAVE_TYPEAHEAD +HAVE_BKGDSET +HAVE_CURS_SET +HAVE_META +HAVE_RESIZETERM +HAVE_PGP -BUFFY_SIZE -EXACT_ADDRESS -SUN_ATTACHMENT +ENABLE_NLS -LOCALES_HACK +HAVE_WC_FUNCS +HAVE_LANGINFO_CODESET ++HAVE_LANGINFO_YESEXPR +HAVE_ICONV -ICONV_NONTRANS +HAVE_GETSID -HAVE_GETADDRINFO ISPELL=/usr/bin/ispell SENDMAIL=/usr/sbin/sendmail MAILPATH=/var/mail PKGDATADIR=/usr/local/share/mutt SYSCONFDIR=/usr/local/etc EXECSHELL=/bin/sh -MIXMASTER To contact the developers, please mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]. To report a bug, please use the flea(1) utility. Ugh. It seems as though the -g and -G options are now missing from the output of 'mutt -h'. Does this mean I have to compile with the nntp patch _and_ --enable-nntp?? -- Rob 'Feztaa' Park [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The last time I was in Spain I got through six Jeffrey Archer novels. I must remember to take enough toilet paper next time. -- Bob Monkhouse msg23030/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
nntp in mutt
Ok, I've recompiled mutt with Vsevolod Volkoy's NNTP patch, and I've been poking around a bit... but I can't for the life of my figure out how to configure mutt for NNTP now that it is compiled properly. Anybody know what I have to do? -- Rob 'Feztaa' Park [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- This message has been encoded in Rot-26 encryption. Unauthorized decoding of this message may result in extreme penalties under the DMCA. These penalties include, but are not limited to, US$100,000 fine, life imprisonment, castration, death, limp hair, terminal halitosis, and amputation of the extremities. msg22982/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Marking articles read in mutt + nntp patch ?
On Sat, 8 Dec 2001 23:06:00 -0200, Jose Romildo Malaquias wrote: Hello. I am using mutt-1.2.5i with support for reading news via NNTP (patch http://mutt.kiev.ua/download/mutt-1.2.5/patch-1.2.5.vvv.nntp.gz). The news server is my own box (localhost), which has installed leafnode to fetch newsgroups from usenet. After reading some messages in a newsgroup with mutt, when quiting the newsgroup, mutt asks Mark all articles read? ([y]/n): to which I answer y, but when I visit that newsgroup again with mutt, all the messages are marked as new. You have yet to persuade mutt, that it should show only new messages in the NNTP folders. Try to add this to your .muttrc: folder-hook ^nntp push 'limit ~N | ~Oreturn' folder-hook . push 'limit return' Matej -- Matej Cepl, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 138 Highland Ave. #10, Somerville, Ma 02143, (617) 623-1488 All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
Marking articles read in mutt + nntp patch ?
Hello. I am using mutt-1.2.5i with support for reading news via NNTP (patch http://mutt.kiev.ua/download/mutt-1.2.5/patch-1.2.5.vvv.nntp.gz). The news server is my own box (localhost), which has installed leafnode to fetch newsgroups from usenet. After reading some messages in a newsgroup with mutt, when quiting the newsgroup, mutt asks Mark all articles read? ([y]/n): to which I answer y, but when I visit that newsgroup again with mutt, all the messages are marked as new. Any clues? Romildo -- Prof. José Romildo Malaquias Departamento de Computação http://iceb.ufop.br/~romildo Universidade Federal de Ouro Preto [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brasil [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Problems after patching in VVV NNTP
Dunno if anybody else has seen this or not...and I didn't see anything in the archives. I compiled 1.3.23i and then patched in the 1.3.23 VVV NNTP patch and recompiled with the --enable-nntp configure flag. When I run this new binary my .muttrc is not read in (none of my color settings are used) and I constantly get segmentation faults (from trying to sort mailboxes or even read messages). Has anybody else seen any weird stuff as a result of compiling in the nntp support? I'm sick of using slrn *and* mutt and would just like to use mutt. Here's my version info: Mutt 1.3.23i (2001-10-09) Copyright (C) 1996-2001 Michael R. Elkins and others. Mutt comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY; for details type `mutt -vv'. Mutt is free software, and you are welcome to redistribute it under certain conditions; type `mutt -vv' for details. System: Linux 2.4.8-26mdk [using ncurses 5.2] Compile options: -DOMAIN +DEBUG -HOMESPOOL +USE_SETGID +USE_DOTLOCK +DL_STANDALONE +USE_FCNTL -USE_FLOCK +USE_POP +USE_NNTP +USE_IMAP -USE_GSS +USE_SSL -USE_SASL +HAVE_REGCOMP -USE_GNU_REGEX +HAVE_COLOR +HAVE_START_COLOR +HAVE_TYPEAHEAD +HAVE_BKGDSET +HAVE_CURS_SET +HAVE_META +HAVE_RESIZETERM +HAVE_PGP -BUFFY_SIZE -EXACT_ADDRESS -SUN_ATTACHMENT +ENABLE_NLS -LOCALES_HACK +HAVE_WC_FUNCS +HAVE_LANGINFO_CODESET +HAVE_LANGINFO_YESEXPR +HAVE_ICONV -ICONV_NONTRANS +HAVE_GETSID +HAVE_GETADDRINFO ISPELL=/usr/bin/ispell SENDMAIL=/usr/sbin/sendmail INEWS=/usr/bin/inews -hS MAILPATH=/var/mail PKGDATADIR=/usr/local/share/mutt SYSCONFDIR=/usr/local/etc EXECSHELL=/bin/sh -MIXMASTER Thanks, /rc -- Remember that a kick in the ass is a step forward. -- Unknown Linux-Mandrake 8.1 - 2.4.8-26mdk / Uptime: 2 days 21 hours 50 minutes
VVV NNTP patch
Is there any documentation on adding config info to the .muttrc for the VVV NNTP patch and also how to use mutt as a news reader? I trolled through the archives this morning and didn't find anything. Thanks, /rc -- Remember that a kick in the ass is a step forward. -- Unknown Linux-Mandrake 8.1 - 2.4.8-26mdk / Uptime: 2 days 19 hours 43 minutes
Problems after patching in VVV NNTP
Dunno if anybody else has seen this or not...and I didn't see anything in the archives. I compiled 1.3.23i and then patched in the 1.3.23 VVV NNTP patch and recompiled with the --enable-nntp configure flag. When I run this new binary my .muttrc is not read in (none of my color settings are used) and I constantly get segmentation faults (from trying to sort mailboxes or even read messages). Has anybody else seen any weird stuff as a result of compiling in the nntp support? I'm sick of using slrn *and* mutt and would just like to use mutt. Here's my version info: Mutt 1.3.23i (2001-10-09) Copyright (C) 1996-2001 Michael R. Elkins and others. Mutt comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY; for details type `mutt -vv'. Mutt is free software, and you are welcome to redistribute it under certain conditions; type `mutt -vv' for details. System: Linux 2.4.8-26mdk [using ncurses 5.2] Compile options: -DOMAIN +DEBUG -HOMESPOOL +USE_SETGID +USE_DOTLOCK +DL_STANDALONE +USE_FCNTL -USE_FLOCK +USE_POP +USE_NNTP +USE_IMAP -USE_GSS +USE_SSL -USE_SASL +HAVE_REGCOMP -USE_GNU_REGEX +HAVE_COLOR +HAVE_START_COLOR +HAVE_TYPEAHEAD +HAVE_BKGDSET +HAVE_CURS_SET +HAVE_META +HAVE_RESIZETERM +HAVE_PGP -BUFFY_SIZE -EXACT_ADDRESS -SUN_ATTACHMENT +ENABLE_NLS -LOCALES_HACK +HAVE_WC_FUNCS +HAVE_LANGINFO_CODESET +HAVE_LANGINFO_YESEXPR +HAVE_ICONV -ICONV_NONTRANS +HAVE_GETSID +HAVE_GETADDRINFO ISPELL=/usr/bin/ispell SENDMAIL=/usr/sbin/sendmail INEWS=/usr/bin/inews -hS MAILPATH=/var/mail PKGDATADIR=/usr/local/share/mutt SYSCONFDIR=/usr/local/etc EXECSHELL=/bin/sh -MIXMASTER Thanks, /rc -- Remember that a kick in the ass is a step forward. -- Unknown Linux-Mandrake 8.1 - 2.4.8-26mdk / Uptime: 2 days 20 hours 49 minutes
Re: Problems after patching in VVV NNTP
In general, after applying patches, you should do make clean before recompiling. See if that helps. -Daniel On Mon, Nov 12, 2001 at 01:25:15PM -0800, Ryan Cook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dunno if anybody else has seen this or not...and I didn't see anything in the archives. I compiled 1.3.23i and then patched in the 1.3.23 VVV NNTP patch and recompiled with the --enable-nntp configure flag. When I run this new binary my .muttrc is not read in (none of my color settings are used) and I constantly get segmentation faults (from trying to sort mailboxes or even read messages). Has anybody else seen any weird stuff as a result of compiling in the nntp support? I'm sick of using slrn *and* mutt and would just like to use mutt. Here's my version info: Mutt 1.3.23i (2001-10-09) Copyright (C) 1996-2001 Michael R. Elkins and others. Mutt comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY; for details type `mutt -vv'. Mutt is free software, and you are welcome to redistribute it under certain conditions; type `mutt -vv' for details. System: Linux 2.4.8-26mdk [using ncurses 5.2] Compile options: -DOMAIN +DEBUG -HOMESPOOL +USE_SETGID +USE_DOTLOCK +DL_STANDALONE +USE_FCNTL -USE_FLOCK +USE_POP +USE_NNTP +USE_IMAP -USE_GSS +USE_SSL -USE_SASL +HAVE_REGCOMP -USE_GNU_REGEX +HAVE_COLOR +HAVE_START_COLOR +HAVE_TYPEAHEAD +HAVE_BKGDSET +HAVE_CURS_SET +HAVE_META +HAVE_RESIZETERM +HAVE_PGP -BUFFY_SIZE -EXACT_ADDRESS -SUN_ATTACHMENT +ENABLE_NLS -LOCALES_HACK +HAVE_WC_FUNCS +HAVE_LANGINFO_CODESET +HAVE_LANGINFO_YESEXPR +HAVE_ICONV -ICONV_NONTRANS +HAVE_GETSID +HAVE_GETADDRINFO ISPELL=/usr/bin/ispell SENDMAIL=/usr/sbin/sendmail INEWS=/usr/bin/inews -hS MAILPATH=/var/mail PKGDATADIR=/usr/local/share/mutt SYSCONFDIR=/usr/local/etc EXECSHELL=/bin/sh -MIXMASTER Thanks, /rc -- Remember that a kick in the ass is a step forward. -- Unknown Linux-Mandrake 8.1 - 2.4.8-26mdk / Uptime: 2 days 20 hours 49 minutes -- Daniel E. Eisenbud [EMAIL PROTECTED] We should go forth on the shortest walk perchance, in the spirit of undying adventure, never to return,--prepared to send back our embalmed hearts only as relics to our desolate kingdoms. --Henry David Thoreau, Walking
Re: Problems after patching in VVV NNTP
On Mon, Nov 12, 2001 at 05:45:26PM -0500, Daniel Eisenbud wrote: In general, after applying patches, you should do make clean before recompiling. See if that helps. I went ahead and did this. No problems getting mutt to run...as long as I don't try to run it as 'mutt -g news_server'. If I add the -g flag when kicking off mutt, it just segfaults now. *sigh* Anybody else have any ideas? /rc -Daniel On Mon, Nov 12, 2001 at 01:25:15PM -0800, Ryan Cook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dunno if anybody else has seen this or not...and I didn't see anything in the archives. I compiled 1.3.23i and then patched in the 1.3.23 VVV NNTP patch and recompiled with the --enable-nntp configure flag. When I run this new binary my .muttrc is not read in (none of my color settings are used) and I constantly get segmentation faults (from trying to sort mailboxes or even read messages). Has anybody else seen any weird stuff as a result of compiling in the nntp support? I'm sick of using slrn *and* mutt and would just like to use mutt. Here's my version info: Mutt 1.3.23i (2001-10-09) Copyright (C) 1996-2001 Michael R. Elkins and others. Mutt comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY; for details type `mutt -vv'. Mutt is free software, and you are welcome to redistribute it under certain conditions; type `mutt -vv' for details. System: Linux 2.4.8-26mdk [using ncurses 5.2] Compile options: -DOMAIN +DEBUG -HOMESPOOL +USE_SETGID +USE_DOTLOCK +DL_STANDALONE +USE_FCNTL -USE_FLOCK +USE_POP +USE_NNTP +USE_IMAP -USE_GSS +USE_SSL -USE_SASL +HAVE_REGCOMP -USE_GNU_REGEX +HAVE_COLOR +HAVE_START_COLOR +HAVE_TYPEAHEAD +HAVE_BKGDSET +HAVE_CURS_SET +HAVE_META +HAVE_RESIZETERM +HAVE_PGP -BUFFY_SIZE -EXACT_ADDRESS -SUN_ATTACHMENT +ENABLE_NLS -LOCALES_HACK +HAVE_WC_FUNCS +HAVE_LANGINFO_CODESET +HAVE_LANGINFO_YESEXPR +HAVE_ICONV -ICONV_NONTRANS +HAVE_GETSID +HAVE_GETADDRINFO ISPELL=/usr/bin/ispell SENDMAIL=/usr/sbin/sendmail INEWS=/usr/bin/inews -hS MAILPATH=/var/mail PKGDATADIR=/usr/local/share/mutt SYSCONFDIR=/usr/local/etc EXECSHELL=/bin/sh -MIXMASTER Thanks, /rc -- Remember that a kick in the ass is a step forward. -- Unknown Linux-Mandrake 8.1 - 2.4.8-26mdk / Uptime: 2 days 20 hours 49 minutes -- Daniel E. Eisenbud [EMAIL PROTECTED] We should go forth on the shortest walk perchance, in the spirit of undying adventure, never to return,--prepared to send back our embalmed hearts only as relics to our desolate kingdoms. --Henry David Thoreau, Walking -- Remember that a kick in the ass is a step forward. -- Unknown Linux-Mandrake 8.1 - 2.4.8-26mdk / Uptime: 2 days 22 hours 24 minutes
Re: Problems after patching in VVV NNTP
On Mon, Nov 12, 2001 at 02:56:51PM -0800, Ryan Cook wrote: In general, after applying patches, you should do make clean before recompiling. See if that helps. I went ahead and did this. No problems getting mutt to run...as long as I don't try to run it as 'mutt -g news_server'. If I add the -g flag when kicking off mutt, it just segfaults now. *sigh* Anybody else have any ideas? OK, if I run it w/o the '-g' flag and use 'G' once mutt is running, then I can get it to work as a newsreader. However, w/o any documentation, I don't know how to suck the messages into an mbox so I don't have to constantly reload them. What's worse is that when I try to change-folder, I see Sorting messages and then it either hangs or segfaultsnot sure which is worse. For those out there who've said they've run the vvv patches w/o problems, what did you do differently? /rc On Mon, Nov 12, 2001 at 01:25:15PM -0800, Ryan Cook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dunno if anybody else has seen this or not...and I didn't see anything in the archives. I compiled 1.3.23i and then patched in the 1.3.23 VVV NNTP patch and recompiled with the --enable-nntp configure flag. When I run this new binary my .muttrc is not read in (none of my color settings are used) and I constantly get segmentation faults (from trying to sort mailboxes or even read messages). Has anybody else seen any weird stuff as a result of compiling in the nntp support? I'm sick of using slrn *and* mutt and would just like to use mutt. Here's my version info: Mutt 1.3.23i (2001-10-09) Copyright (C) 1996-2001 Michael R. Elkins and others. Mutt comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY; for details type `mutt -vv'. Mutt is free software, and you are welcome to redistribute it under certain conditions; type `mutt -vv' for details. System: Linux 2.4.8-26mdk [using ncurses 5.2] Compile options: -DOMAIN +DEBUG -HOMESPOOL +USE_SETGID +USE_DOTLOCK +DL_STANDALONE +USE_FCNTL -USE_FLOCK +USE_POP +USE_NNTP +USE_IMAP -USE_GSS +USE_SSL -USE_SASL +HAVE_REGCOMP -USE_GNU_REGEX +HAVE_COLOR +HAVE_START_COLOR +HAVE_TYPEAHEAD +HAVE_BKGDSET +HAVE_CURS_SET +HAVE_META +HAVE_RESIZETERM +HAVE_PGP -BUFFY_SIZE -EXACT_ADDRESS -SUN_ATTACHMENT +ENABLE_NLS -LOCALES_HACK +HAVE_WC_FUNCS +HAVE_LANGINFO_CODESET +HAVE_LANGINFO_YESEXPR +HAVE_ICONV -ICONV_NONTRANS +HAVE_GETSID +HAVE_GETADDRINFO ISPELL=/usr/bin/ispell SENDMAIL=/usr/sbin/sendmail INEWS=/usr/bin/inews -hS MAILPATH=/var/mail PKGDATADIR=/usr/local/share/mutt SYSCONFDIR=/usr/local/etc EXECSHELL=/bin/sh -MIXMASTER Thanks, /rc -- Remember that a kick in the ass is a step forward. -- Unknown Linux-Mandrake 8.1 - 2.4.8-26mdk / Uptime: 2 days 20 hours 49 minutes -- Daniel E. Eisenbud [EMAIL PROTECTED] We should go forth on the shortest walk perchance, in the spirit of undying adventure, never to return,--prepared to send back our embalmed hearts only as relics to our desolate kingdoms. --Henry David Thoreau, Walking -- Remember that a kick in the ass is a step forward. -- Unknown Linux-Mandrake 8.1 - 2.4.8-26mdk / Uptime: 2 days 22 hours 24 minutes -- Remember that a kick in the ass is a step forward. -- Unknown Linux-Mandrake 8.1 - 2.4.8-26mdk / Uptime: 2 days 23 hours 16 minutes
NNTP support
I'm trying to patch mutt so I can read/subscribe/delete news groups and messages from within. I got the latest mutt: 1.2.23, it compiles just fine. I looked at a few nntp patches, and the one that seemed to be the most complete was at: http://mutt.kiev.ua/download/mutt-1.3.23/ And I applied the nntp patch, and followed the meager directions that exist within the file. It seemed to compile okay, but never seemed to use the file nntp.c or nntp.h. Weird. All this newly compiled version of mutt does now is seg fault. What are people using for NNTP support within mutt? Where can I go for good directions, good documentation and a good add-on to the standard mutt package. Is there a most popular patch? What is it?? Thanks! -- Ryan
Re: VVV NNTP patch -- small comment
* David Champion ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On 2001.10.17, in [EMAIL PROTECTED], Jerome De Greef [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It will only retrieve the groups list once. Then remove all newgroups you don't need from your newsrc file and you're all set. The only disadvantage of this is that it will not show the number of new posting for each newsgroup you've subscribed too in the newsgroups browser. The problem (for me) is that although the newsrc format allows selection of subscribed and unsubscribed groups, this NNTP patch doesn't differentiate them in that it downloads overviews for all groups, whether they're subscribed or not. [I think this is what Matej's problem is, too -- not just reading the newsrc, but actually grabbing the headers/threads for each one.] This is s-l-o-w and unnecessary. A user I don't know what version of the patch you use (I use the latest) but here it only retrieves headers/theads for the groups I'm subscribed. Jerome -- +---+ | 'the panorama of the city is wrong | | in fact the city seems to be gone!' | | the clash, stop the world, 1980 | +---+
Mutt and NNTP on Debian
Hi, it seems there are a few possibilities to enable mutt to read newsgroups, but these require patching the source. Since I'm a Debian user, I'd like to be able to make a .deb from the patched version. If I apply the patch http://mutt.kiev.ua/download/mutt-1.3.22.1/patch-1.3.22.1.vvv.nntp.gz to the build-dir, it shows some errors, so I didn't proceed. Are there any debian users on the list having succeeded applying this patch and making a deb? -- Frederik Vanrenterghem|Friends, n.: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | People who borrow your books and GPG Fingerprint: | set wet glasses on them. 966B 0E4B 25C1 CC04 E2CB | 8D4C 117F 6469 8925 BDE0 | People who know you well, but like | you anyway. PGP signature
Mutt and NNTP on Debian
Hi, it seems there are a few possibilities to enable mutt to read newsgroups, but these require patching the source. Since I'm a Debian user, I'd like to be able to make a .deb from the patched version. If I apply the patch http://mutt.kiev.ua/download/mutt-1.3.22.1/patch-1.3.22.1.vvv.nntp.gz to the build-dir, it shows some errors, so I didn't proceed. Are there any debian users on the list having succeeded applying this patch and making a deb? -- Frederik Vanrenterghem | Time and tide wait for no man. [EMAIL PROTECTED] | GPG Fingerprint: | 966B 0E4B 25C1 CC04 E2CB | 8D4C 117F 6469 8925 BDE0 | PGP signature
Re: Mutt and NNTP on Debian
Frederik, On Monday, 1 October 2001, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: it seems there are a few possibilities to enable mutt to read newsgroups, but these require patching the source. Since I'm a Debian user, I'd like to be able to make a .deb from the patched version. If I apply the patch http://mutt.kiev.ua/download/mutt-1.3.22.1/patch-1.3.22.1.vvv.nntp.gz to the build-dir, it shows some errors, so I didn't proceed. Are there any debian users on the list having succeeded applying this patch and making a deb? I use the .debs made available by Andras Bali, who build mutt debs including NNTP support. Add the following in your /etc/apt/sources.list to find them: # Mutt-NNTP with SSL support deb http://pandora.debian.org/~bali/debian unstable bali -- Niels
Re: Mutt and NNTP on Debian
From the keyboard of Frederik, Hi, it seems there are a few possibilities to enable mutt to read newsgroups, but these require patching the source. Since I'm a Debian user, I'd like to be able to make a .deb from the patched version. If I apply the patch http://mutt.kiev.ua/download/mutt-1.3.22.1/patch-1.3.22.1.vvv.nntp.gz to the build-dir, it shows some errors, so I didn't proceed. Are there any debian users on the list having succeeded applying this patch and making a deb? Yo. Last time I did it was 1.3.20 for unstable. take a look at: ftp.links2linux.de/pub/packman/debian/ bye Waldemar
Solved somewhat [was: Re: Can't get the vvv-nntp-patch working...]
On Tue, 25 Sep 2001 at 06:20:33 +0200, Piet Delport wrote: [snip mutt and leafnode not working] I think the problem is leafnode related, as mutt works perfectly on my ISP's news server. Version info: Mutt 1.3.22.1i (2001-08-30) Leafnode+ NNTP Daemon, version 2.14 Any clues? It seems the problem is a bad interaction between the VVV patch and leafnode 2.14, while they both work fine on their own. Version 1.9.19 of leafnode seems to work though. Has anyone else experienced success/failure with the above combination? Vsevolod, if you're reading this, are you interested in tracking this problem down, if it's on mutt's side? I'll be happy to provide more info and/or a test server, if needed. Thanks, -- Piet Delport [EMAIL PROTECTED] Today's subliminal thought is: PGP signature
Can't get the vvv-nntp-patch working...
--d6Gm4EdcadzBjdND Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I've installed mutt from the ports collection using WITH_MUTT_NNTP (after trying and failing to get the hang of slrn...), and everything seems to have went well, but i'm running into a strange problem when i actually try to read news. I'm running leafnode locally, and mutt connects fine; gives the list of newsgroups when i press `i', lets me subscribe, shows how many are unread, everything. But as soon as i enter a newsgroup, mutt shows me an empty index. No messages whatsoever, even after every obvious way to make mutt display everything it can. Going back to the newsgroup browser shows that all articles seem to have been marked read. Pressing uncatchup-all brings back the full message count in the browser, but as soon as i try to re-enter the newsgroup, the articles just dissappear again, just like before. I think the problem is leafnode related, as mutt works perfectly on my ISP's news server. Version info:=20 Mutt 1.3.22.1i (2001-08-30) Leafnode+ NNTP Daemon, version 2.14 Any clues? --=20 Piet Delport [EMAIL PROTECTED] Today's subliminal thought is: --d6Gm4EdcadzBjdND Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE7sAYRzRUP82sZFCcRAo9eAJ0W1MBlQy2iIDRkrcw65t7vbLs8UACeIjJ+ jcuJIpZPdPO24cVmOzGaGCU= =oNbw -END PGP SIGNATURE- --d6Gm4EdcadzBjdND--
nutt (ok, mutt + nntp)
I´m using slrn to follow just a few ng´s, and while it has mutt´s look, it doesn´t have its feeling: I don´t feel comfortable with slang, it´s not as (easily)? configurable as mutt, plus slrnpull is giving me a headache at the moment. I d/loaded a couple of nntp patches for mutt, namely patch-1.2.5.vvv.nntp and mutt_1.2.5-nntp2.diff, and I´d like to know which of both will work better (mail privately if this is OT, please) or is more up to date. A comparison would be nice. Ideally, I would like to use mutt for news like I do for mail, using external programs from inside mutt to retrieve and post news articles like I use fetchmail and sendmail to fetch and send mail messages ... perhaps leafnode if possible. Things I´d like supported for newsboxes and articles are hooks for sigs, headers, etc., pgp/gpg sigs (little point for encryption), encoding/decoding either throug uudecode or uudeview, ... Thank you for your input/view, -- Horacio
Re: Question about the VVV nntp patch - design issue and comments.
ok ... might be quite slow, I never relly realized this because I have a quite fast connection ... so I am really happy with this. But I can believe having a modem and no local NNTPd might be a pain. I used leafnode the days I still had a modem ... maybe this helps ;-)) No, I don't think it's the connection speed. I am on a cable modem. The problem is that my isp doesn't really give a rats nose wether the nntp service is fast. The server is notorious for having a short expiration of postings, and an occasional drop - though the drops may not be so frequent as to be outrageous. well ever thought about using another NNTP service? Or are you restricted by your provider in any way to use only HIS NNTPd? -- Christian Ordig | Homepage: http://thor.prohosting.com/~chrordig/ Germany |eMail: Christian Ordig [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP signature
Re: Question about the VVV nntp patch - design issue and comments.
On 08/10/01 12:42 AM, Christian Ordig sat at the `puter and typed: ok ... might be quite slow, I never relly realized this because I have a quite fast connection ... so I am really happy with this. But I can believe having a modem and no local NNTPd might be a pain. I used leafnode the days I still had a modem ... maybe this helps ;-)) No, I don't think it's the connection speed. I am on a cable modem. The problem is that my isp doesn't really give a rats nose wether the nntp service is fast. The server is notorious for having a short expiration of postings, and an occasional drop - though the drops may not be so frequent as to be outrageous. well ever thought about using another NNTP service? Or are you restricted by your provider in any way to use only HIS NNTPd? -- Christian Ordig | Homepage: http://thor.prohosting.com/~chrordig/ Germany |eMail: Christian Ordig [EMAIL PROTECTED] Well, yes and no. I could use another service, but I pay enough for my access now, that I can't really justify paying for another one. More a matter of principle than finance, not that finance doesn't count, but . . . Anyway, as for the free services I've tried, they are all pretty slow and many only have a web interface. Lou -- Louis LeBlanc [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fully Funded Hobbyist, KeySlapper Extrordinaire :) http://acadia.ne.mediaone.net ԿԬ QOTD: When she hauled ass, it took three trips.
Re: Question about the VVV nntp patch - design issue and comments.
On Sun, Aug 05, 2001 at 10:54:25PM -0400, Louis LeBlanc wrote: When I connect to an nntp server, Mutt checks for new messages and new newsgroups. Due to the nature of nntp, coupled with M1s 'who the hell uses usenet anyway' attitude (LOW priority), this can be a little slow. . . . Does anyone else using the NNTP patch notice this? ok ... might be quite slow, I never relly realized this because I have a quite fast connection ... so I am really happy with this. But I can believe having a modem and no local NNTPd might be a pain. I used leafnode the days I still had a modem ... maybe this helps ;-)) -- Christian Ordig Germany
Re: Question about the VVV nntp patch - design issue and comments.
On 08/07/01 11:59 PM, Christian Ordig sat at the `puter and typed: On Sun, Aug 05, 2001 at 10:54:25PM -0400, Louis LeBlanc wrote: When I connect to an nntp server, Mutt checks for new messages and new newsgroups. Due to the nature of nntp, coupled with M1s 'who the hell uses usenet anyway' attitude (LOW priority), this can be a little slow. . . . Does anyone else using the NNTP patch notice this? ok ... might be quite slow, I never relly realized this because I have a quite fast connection ... so I am really happy with this. But I can believe having a modem and no local NNTPd might be a pain. I used leafnode the days I still had a modem ... maybe this helps ;-)) No, I don't think it's the connection speed. I am on a cable modem. The problem is that my isp doesn't really give a rats nose wether the nntp service is fast. The server is notorious for having a short expiration of postings, and an occasional drop - though the drops may not be so frequent as to be outrageous. Anyway, it doesn't really matter what news client I use, nntp will be slow. I just thought the nntp functionality in mutt should avoid making it longer by limiting certain calls, like checking for new newsgroups, to once per session. I REALLY don't care to start running my own nntp service, especially I'm the only one on my machine that would be using it. Sure, I could extend the expiration if I wanted, but . . . Thanks Lou -- Louis LeBlanc [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fully Funded Hobbyist, KeySlapper Extrordinaire :) http://acadia.ne.mediaone.net ԿԬ Today's scientific question is: What in the world is electricity? And where does it go after it leaves the toaster? -- Dave Barry, What is Electricity?
Re: Question about the VVV nntp patch - design issue and comments.
Louis LeBlanc [mutt-users] 07/08/01 18:56 -0400: I REALLY don't care to start running my own nntp service, especially I'm the only one on my machine that would be using it. Sure, I could extend the expiration if I wanted, but . . . I'd suggest using slrnpull + slrn then. -suresh -- Suresh Ramasubramanian + Lumber Cartel India - tinlcI mallet @ cluestick.org + Wallopus Malletus Indigenensis People who have what they want are very fond of telling people who haven't what they want that they don't want it. -- Ogden Nash
Question about the VVV nntp patch - design issue and comments.
Hey all. I am using the VVV NNTP patch with mutt 1.3.20. I am noticing some odd behavior - more like behavior I kind of disagree with. When I connect to an nntp server, Mutt checks for new messages and new newsgroups. Due to the nature of nntp, coupled with M1s 'who the hell uses usenet anyway' attitude (LOW priority), this can be a little slow. Of course it is necessary. However, EVERY SINGLE time I switch newsgroups, Mutt checks again for new messages and new newsgroups. It seems that one time checking for new newsgroups when connecting to the server should be enough. As for checking for new messages, I guess that could be arguable, in the interest of letting you know that a new message has shown up on one of your subscribed groups, but . . . And even if a couple new groups show up in the half hour I spend on the groups, chances are they are bogus groups, or just another porn group. It won't kill me to miss it this time around, and it really slows the whole thing down. Does anyone else using the NNTP patch notice this? TIA Lou PS: I'm not trying to badmouth the VVV patches or their brilliant author :), I'm just wondering if there weren't a couple considerations missed in the initial design that might be revisited. Overall, I love the functionality, and without it I would probably just do without the NGs. -- Louis LeBlanc [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fully Funded Hobbyist, KeySlapper Extrordinaire :) http://acadia.ne.mediaone.net ԿԬ Bing's Rule: Don't try to stem the tide -- move the beach.
nntp patch is http://mutt.org.ua/download/
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nntp patch and hooks
Is there a way using the vvv patch to assign hooks to newsgroups? or even to all nntp postings? I want my sig to be different on the news server than on mail... I've tried server-hook, folder-hook, and send-hook... I figured I should be able to send-hook matching on ^Newsgroups:, but that didn't work either. :/ ideas? -- Dan Boger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: nntp patch and hooks
On Tue, Jun 19, 2001 at 02:06:43PM -0400, Louis LeBlanc wrote: # Set my nntp signature file (defaults are set in .muttrc) server-hook news.server.net 'set signature=~/.mutt/nntpsig' yup, that's what I tried... but no luck at all. I put in: server-hook news.server.new 'set signature=test' and hit P - I still get my standard sig... send-hooks aren't called for nntp posts, right? any way to debug this? Thanks, -- Dan Boger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Still having trouble - help! - was Re: Problems with mutt and the vv/nntp patch
Hi all.. On Sun, May 27, 2001 at 07:22:34PM +0200, Stefan Frank wrote: I had the same problem today. Check the permissions of the inn temp-directory (pathtmp: in your inn.conf). It should belong to news with permissions set to 775. I have inews installed and mutt with vvv-nntp-patch, in my muttrc, I have this for inews: set inews=inews -hS I have a server with liefnode (194.39.3.221.1) and a client with my mutt (194.39.221.3), but, If I try to post a news to a newsgroup, I got this: Error sending message, child exited 127 (Exec error.). What's going wrong here, how can I fix it? TIA Jan -- One time, you all will be emulated by linux! Jan- Hendrik Palic Url:http://www.billgotchy.de; E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP signature
Re: Still having trouble - help! - was Re: Problems with mutt and the vv/nntp patch
Jan-Hendrik Palic [mutt-users] 29/05/01 08:34 +0200: I have inews installed and mutt with vvv-nntp-patch, in my muttrc, I have this for inews: set inews=inews -hS I have a server with liefnode (194.39.3.221.1) and a client with my mutt (194.39.221.3), but, If I try to post a news to a newsgroup, I got this: Error sending message, child exited 127 (Exec error.). What's going wrong here, how can I fix it? 1. The inews binary is not in your path (set $PATH or give full path in your muttrc) 2. It is not executable / permissions are wrong (chmod / chown the binary, your news spool etc) -- Suresh Ramasubramanian + Wallopus Malletus Indigenensis mallet @ cluestick.org + Lumber Cartel of India, tinlcI EMail Sturmbannfuhrer, Lower Middle Class Unix Sysadmin
NNTP capable .rpm?
Hi, just a question: I would like to have NNTP capable mutt (so that, I would have both news and mail under one hood), but I really do not want to spend hours on messing with patches etc. (I am sorry, I am not computer professional, so that everything takes me many more hours than to you). Would anybody have mutt with NNTP patches as a rpm package and if so, would he be so kind and send it to me (or tell, where it is available over Internet), please? Thanks Matej -- Matej Cepl, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 138 Highland Ave. #10 Somerville, Ma 02143 (617) 623-1488
Re: Still having trouble - help! - was Re: Problems with mutt and the vv/nntp patch
At Sat, May 26 2001 [15:20 -0400], Louis LeBlanc aroused my curiosity with: Just want to ask one more time if anyone has any clue what I might be doing wrong - or where I might find some more specific data. I am still unable to post. Reading is no problem. This is the message I get when trying to post: Can't get list of newsgroups, Permission denied. (Article not posted.) I had the same problem today. Check the permissions of the inn temp-directory (pathtmp: in your inn.conf). It should belong to news with permissions set to 775. Hope that helps :-) Slrn and Netscape have no problem. I am using mutt version 1.3.18 build with all the vvv patches using his spec file for the rpm. I have inn and inews installed, with inn configured correctly as far as I can tell. The inews var in my .muttrc is set to inews -hS Any other ideas? I'd appreciate any help. TIA Lou Tschoe, Steff
Still having trouble - help! - was Re: Problems with mutt and the vv/nntp patch
Just want to ask one more time if anyone has any clue what I might be doing wrong - or where I might find some more specific data. I am still unable to post. Reading is no problem. This is the message I get when trying to post: Can't get list of newsgroups, Permission denied. (Article not posted.) Slrn and Netscape have no problem. I am using mutt version 1.3.18 build with all the vvv patches using his spec file for the rpm. I have inn and inews installed, with inn configured correctly as far as I can tell. The inews var in my .muttrc is set to inews -hS Any other ideas? I'd appreciate any help. TIA Lou -- Louis LeBlanc Fully Funded Hobbyist, KeySlapper Extrordinaire :) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://acadia.ne.mediaone.netԿԬ
Re: Problems with mutt and the vv/nntp patch
On Wed, May 23, 2001 at 10:26:10AM +0200, Louis-David Mitterrand sat at the 'puter and typed: * On Tue, May 22, 2001 at 01:40:57PM -0400, Louis LeBlanc wrote: I recently built mutt with Vsevolod Volkovs nntp patch. For the most part, I love it. It has much the same interface in the index. The only thing I have trouble with, is subscribing to groups and seeing the group list. I cannot subscribe to any groups because I am unable to view the groups list. Is anyone else having this problem? Should I rebuild the whole thing? Press TAB when in folder (newsgroup) browser to toggle between subscribed/general view. I realized that, of course, but the real problem is that when I press tab or '?' to get that list, I was getting a segfault. I even spent hours poring through code and running mutt in the debugger without getting to the root of the problem. It was related to a call in browser.c where a null pointer was referenced, but I couldn't really tell where that pointer was intended to be set. The tab or ? key is supposed to initiate a callback being passed to the mutt_FormatString() call, but the folder struct seems to think it is handling an imap folder (hence the null pointer). In all likelihood, I simply used conflicting patches, or used them in the wrong order. I finally got around it by just getting the latest (1.3.18) and all of VVs 1.3.18 patches and his spec file for the rpm. Now it works GREAT!! I tell you this is one sexy piece of software :) Now to figure out what all those other patches were . . . These are the ones I found and applied: mutt-1.3.18.vvv.initials? mutt-1.3.18.vvv.nntpobviously the news stuff mutt-1.3.18.vvv.quote ? mutt-1.3.18.vvv.ru ? mutt-1.3.18.vvv.ru2 ? I noticed that there were some config directives removed and a few added - including a check mailboxes so you can tell mutt to check your mailboxes regardless of the imap_check_interval (which is one of the ones removed). I also noticed that the rpm for this version doesn't install any documentation at all. Hmm. Other comments, 1.3.18 is a lot more intelligent about telling you where you have new messages - probably because it is checking mailboxes at each operation (probably means I skipped a patch that shipped with the distro I had). The colors are goofy, so I will have to tweak them back into place. No biggie though - just don't leave the normal color settings at default. I spent a while subscribing, checking mail, checking news, deleting, etc. This is the first message I am sending, and I haven't yet tried any saves or mailbox creation (I am using IMAP just in case you are wondering), or anything else fancy, but so far not a single complaint. Anyway, thank you very much for the feedback. Cheers Lou -- Louis LeBlanc Fully Funded Hobbyist, KeySlapper Extrordinaire :) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://acadia.ne.mediaone.netԿԬ
Re: Problems with mutt and the vv/nntp patch
Hi... On Tue, May 22, 2001 at 01:40:57PM -0400, Louis LeBlanc wrote: I recently built mutt with Vsevolod Volkovs nntp patch. For the most part, I love it. It has much the same interface in the index. Yes, I love it to have one program for this two things, mail an news :) I cannot subscribe to any groups because I am unable to view the groups list. Is anyone else having this problem? Should I rebuild the whole thing? What do you have have in your muttrc included to use your newsserver, here my settings: set news_cache_dir=~/Mail/nntp #news-cache set news_server=194.39.221.1 set newsrc=~/.newsrc #my newsrc set nntp_context=2000 set nntp_load_description#description for newsqroups set nntp_poll=30 I starting mutt and then using i to use mutt an a newsreade. The first time you get all newsgroups available and you can subscribe with s the interestng groups. It works for me. HTH Jan -- One time, you all will be emulated by linux! Jan- Hendrik Palic Url:http://www.billgotchy.de; E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP signature
