Re: Question about message id

2024-04-11 Thread Derek Martin
On Thu, Apr 11, 2024 at 02:35:30PM -0700, googly.negotiator...@aceecat.org wrote: > On Thu, Apr 11, 2024 at 01:13:52PM +1000, raf via Mutt-users wrote: > - if the mailing list does mess with msgid, it absolutely must do it > consistently for all copies of the message. For existing software

Re: Question about message id

2024-04-11 Thread Derek Martin
On Thu, Apr 11, 2024 at 01:13:52PM +1000, raf via Mutt-users wrote: > On Tue, Apr 09, 2024 at 10:53:41AM -0400, Derek Martin > wrote: > > > On Sun, Apr 07, 2024 at 01:19:09PM +, Ебрашка wrote: > > > Question, what should I write in .muttrc to make my outgoing > > > mails have the same

Re: Question about message id

2024-04-11 Thread googly . negotiator862
On Thu, Apr 11, 2024 at 01:13:52PM +1000, raf via Mutt-users wrote: > > > Question, what should I write in .muttrc to make my outgoing > > > mails have the same beautiful message-ID as Yandex mail? > > The unfathomable thing about this question is why you (or anyone) > > should care in the

Re: Question about message id

2024-04-10 Thread raf via Mutt-users
On Tue, Apr 09, 2024 at 10:53:41AM -0400, Derek Martin wrote: > On Sun, Apr 07, 2024 at 01:19:09PM +, Ебрашка wrote: > > Question, what should I write in .muttrc to make my outgoing mails have > > the same beautiful message-ID as Yandex mail? > > The unfathomable thing about this question

Re: Question about message id

2024-04-10 Thread Will Yardley
On Wed, Apr 10, 2024 at 01:05:09PM +0800, Kevin J. McCarthy wrote: > On Tue, Apr 09, 2024 at 09:33:06AM -0700, Will Yardley wrote: > > side note: using quotes around the template screws things up, that is, > > set message_id_format="" > > vs > > set message_id_format= > > > > results in a broken

Re: Question about message id

2024-04-10 Thread Ебрашка
Thanks everyone for the replies and discussion, something to ponder. Всем спасибо за ответы и дискуссию, есть над чем поразмышлять.

Re: Question about message id

2024-04-09 Thread Kevin J. McCarthy
On Tue, Apr 09, 2024 at 09:33:06AM -0700, Will Yardley wrote: side note: using quotes around the template screws things up, that is, set message_id_format="" vs set message_id_format= results in a broken message-id with the quotes inside the angle brackets (Message-ID: <"xyz">) That shouldn't

Re: Question about message id

2024-04-09 Thread Cameron Simpson
On 09Apr2024 07:11, Michael Kjörling wrote: On 9 Apr 2024 07:32 +1000, from c...@cskk.id.au (Cameron Simpson): _Or_ you could "set sendmail=" to a script of your own to add a message-id header - that is what mutt uses to deliver the message to a mail system - you could add a header there then

Re: Question about message id

2024-04-09 Thread Dan Ritter
Cameron Simpson wrote: > On 07Apr2024 13:19, Ебрашка wrote: > > Question, what should I write in .muttrc to make my outgoing mails have > > the same beautiful message-ID as Yandex mail? > > For example Message-Id: <43265...@example.com> consisting of random > > digits and domain name > > I

Re: Question about message id

2024-04-09 Thread Derek Martin
On Tue, Apr 09, 2024 at 09:25:56AM -0700, Will Yardley wrote: > On Tue, Apr 09, 2024 at 11:33:55AM -0400, Derek Martin wrote: > > If so that feature may not be working correctly... > > That is the old format for the mutt version I'm using. The new format > looks like > > > > Thought you were

Re: Question about message id

2024-04-09 Thread Will Yardley
On Tue, Apr 09, 2024 at 11:33:55AM -0400, Derek Martin wrote: > > I think some people mentioned some minor threading issues with the new > > format? > > Is that so? I don't recall noticing anything about that... I'd love a > pointer to some details, if anyone has that. It's possible that it was

Re: Question about message id

2024-04-09 Thread googly . negotiator862
On Sun, Apr 07, 2024 at 01:19:09PM +, Ебрашка wrote: > Question, what should I write in .muttrc to make my outgoing mails > have the same beautiful message-ID as Yandex mail? Talk about bikeshedding :-) -- Ian

Re: Question about message id

2024-04-09 Thread Will Yardley
On Tue, Apr 09, 2024 at 11:33:55AM -0400, Derek Martin wrote: > On Tue, Apr 09, 2024 at 08:05:06AM -0700, Will Yardley wrote: > > On Tue, Apr 09, 2024 at 10:53:41AM -0400, Derek Martin wrote: > > > The unfathomable thing about this question is why you (or anyone) > > > should care in the slightest

Re: Question about message id

2024-04-09 Thread Derek Martin
On Tue, Apr 09, 2024 at 08:05:06AM -0700, Will Yardley wrote: > On Tue, Apr 09, 2024 at 10:53:41AM -0400, Derek Martin wrote: > > The unfathomable thing about this question is why you (or anyone) > > should care in the slightest what your message ID looks like. > > That's totally true, but I

Re: Question about message id

2024-04-09 Thread Will Yardley
On Tue, Apr 09, 2024 at 10:53:41AM -0400, Derek Martin wrote: > The unfathomable thing about this question is why you (or anyone) > should care in the slightest what your message ID looks like. That's totally true, but I still like the classic Mutt message-id format. Maybe it's just nostalgia,

Re: Question about message id

2024-04-09 Thread Derek Martin
On Sun, Apr 07, 2024 at 01:19:09PM +, Ебрашка wrote: > Question, what should I write in .muttrc to make my outgoing mails have > the same beautiful message-ID as Yandex mail? The unfathomable thing about this question is why you (or anyone) should care in the slightest what your message ID

Re: Question about message id

2024-04-09 Thread Michael Kjörling
On 9 Apr 2024 07:32 +1000, from c...@cskk.id.au (Cameron Simpson): > You could (a) turn on "set edit_headers=yes" so the headers are visible in > your message and (b) have your editor startup make one? This is what I do in order to have a UUID message-ID, which Mutt doesn't support natively. >

Re: Question about message id

2024-04-08 Thread Will Yardley
On Sun, Apr 07, 2024 at 01:19:09PM +, Ебрашка wrote: > Question, what should I write in .muttrc to make my outgoing mails have > the same beautiful message-ID as Yandex mail? > For example Message-Id: <43265...@example.com> consisting of random > digits and domain name There was a long

Re: Question about message id

2024-04-08 Thread Cameron Simpson
On 07Apr2024 13:19, Ебрашка wrote: Question, what should I write in .muttrc to make my outgoing mails have the same beautiful message-ID as Yandex mail? For example Message-Id: <43265...@example.com> consisting of random digits and domain name I think it would be enough to supply your own

Re: Question about message id

2024-04-08 Thread Cameron Simpson
On 07Apr2024 18:23, Anton Sharonov wrote: On Sun, Apr 07, 2024 at 09:23:07AM -0600, Charles Cazabon via Mutt-users wrote: There's a good reason for that; it help to ensure uniqueness, which prevents problems with threading. By limiting itself to only digits, Yandex's IDs are much more likely

Re: Question about message id

2024-04-07 Thread Michael Kjörling
On 7 Apr 2024 18:23 +0200, from anton.sharo...@gmail.com (Anton Sharonov): >>> For example Message-Id: <43265...@example.com> consisting of random >>> digits and domain name >> >> There's a good reason for that; it help to ensure uniqueness, which prevents >> problems with threading. By limiting

Re: Question about message id

2024-04-07 Thread Anton Sharonov
On Sun, Apr 07, 2024 at 09:23:07AM -0600, Charles Cazabon via Mutt-users wrote: > Ебрашка wrote: > > my mails have Message-ID: . Question, what > > should I write in .muttrc to make my outgoing mails have the same beautiful > > message-ID as Yandex mail? > > My first question would be, why do

Re: Question about message id

2024-04-07 Thread Charles Cazabon via Mutt-users
Ебрашка wrote: > my mails have Message-ID: . Question, what > should I write in .muttrc to make my outgoing mails have the same beautiful > message-ID as Yandex mail? My first question would be, why do you care what the Message-ID: field contents look like? Virtually no-one will ever look at

Question about message id

2024-04-07 Thread Ебрашка
Message-Id: <254061712447...@mail.yandex.ru> - this is how Message-Id looks like when I receive an e-mail sent from Yandex mail web interface. When I send a mail via mutt with activated option set hostname = example.com, my mails have Message-ID: . Question, what should I write in .muttrc to make