Re: Quoting message in replies
On Thu, May 17, 2001 at 11:44:16PM -0700, Luke Ravitch wrote: On Thu, May 17, 2001 at 08:17:17PM -0600, Duke Normandin wrote: Seems like what I was wanting to do is taboo... OK! How about: Any ideas on how I can generate _that_ ? Would that break anything? Fascinating. Replying to this post and choosing to have the original message included, I get the above. The lines with the dashes disappeared. I wonder why. Well, consider that as a side effect. Could it be that you're using emacs as your editor and post.el as the mode to edit with? -- Dave Pearson: | lbdb.el - LBDB interface. http://www.davep.org/ | sawfish.el - Sawfish mode. Emacs: | uptimes.el - Record emacs uptimes. http://www.davep.org/emacs/ | quickurl.el - Recall lists of URLs.
Re: Quoting message in replies
On Fri, May 18, 2001 at 12:50:58AM -0700, Luke Ravitch wrote: On Fri, May 18, 2001 at 08:30:22AM +0100, Dave Pearson wrote: Could it be that you're using emacs as your editor and post.el as the mode to edit with? Indeed, I am. I take it Post mode is responsible for the trimming. Is there a rationale behind it or is it just a quirky...umm...feature? It's a side effect of the setting of `post-signature-pattern' and how `post-delete-quoted-signatures' uses it. -- Dave Pearson: | mutt.octet.filter - autoview octet-streams http://www.davep.org/ | mutt.vcard.filter - autoview simple vcards Mutt: | muttrc2html - muttrc - HTML utility http://www.davep.org/mutt/ | muttrc.sl - Jed muttrc mode
Re: Quoting message in replies
On 2001-05-17 20:17 -0600, Duke Normandin wrote: Seems like what I was wanting to do is taboo... OK! How about: It's not taboo in the sense of arbitrary taboo. It's that you seem to think that it's fine to use whatever format you like for quoting. Perhaps you don't realize that it's not strictly a personal issue. When people reply to a mail that itself contains quotes of previous messages, it gets hairy if everybody uses a different quoting format. -- André Majorel Work: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Home: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.teaser.fr/~amajorel/
Re: Quoting message in replies
On Thu, May 17, 2001 at 11:44:16PM -0700, Luke Ravitch wrote: On Thu, May 17, 2001 at 08:17:17PM -0600, Duke Normandin wrote: Seems like what I was wanting to do is taboo... OK! How about: Any ideas on how I can generate _that_ ? Would that break anything? Fascinating. Replying to this post and choosing to have the original message included, I get the above. The lines with the dashes disappeared. I wonder why. Well, consider that as a side effect. Anyway, what I was originally going to say was that I wouldn't put the before the dashes because the dashes aren't part of the quoted message. Of course, then you need to consider the use of -- as sig cutoff indicator. Maybe use equal signs instead of dashes. As for implementing it, you might be able to get the first line of dashes (or whatever) with setting attribution (see Mutt manual for details). I don't know what to do about the bottom line. Finally, I would recommend sticking with the standard way of doing things (one line of attribution and the standard reply-quote prefix). It's just cleaner. But if you really want to do as you inidicated above, good luck with figuring out how. -- Luke Thanks for the input! I'm going to think on proceding with this experiment a bit more ;) I first saw this type of quoting the other day on the FreeBSD-questions list. Mutt rendered it just great. I should have pretended to reply to such a message to see what would have happened. personally, I _hate_ the build-up of ' ' on the LH-side. Mutt's color-coding sure helps in this regard though. I find the following better suited for me for reading on-going threads: On April 18, 2001 Duke groaned... ---automatic cursor positioning here so that the reply _always follows_ then the subsequent replies would look like On April 18, 2001 Duke groaned... . . On April 18, 2001 Luke wrote... . . On April 18, 2001 Surash wrote etc etc [current message body] To _me_ the above in uncluttered, obvious and _much_ easier to follow. Granted its diametrically contrary to the status quo, but to _me_ the status quo sucks - that is: the follow-the-arrow-to-get-the-name-of-the-current-writer bullshit! Anyway, I'm a firm believer that nothing man-made is or should be, etched in stone. Standards are required, of course, to bring about peace and harmony, but standards must be reviewed periodically to determine if they are both effective AND efficient. I have no illusions that the Internet mail quoting status quo will ever be changed -- and especially NOT to accomodate me or anyone else. The above is merely wishful thinking on my part; and I appreciate the concerns about breaking functionalities when deviating from the current standards. I require no more guidance in this matter, so thanks for your - and everyone's - input! -- -duke Calgary, Alberta, Canada
Quoting message in replies
Hi... Currently I have in /etc/muttrc: set indent_string= I want to have my replies look like the following example: +-- | Hi | | Can anyone tell me the format to define a variable(for | the CVS server) in the inetd.conf file? +-- [-- reply body ] Setting 'set indent_string=| ' would give me part of what I want, but I can't come up with a solution to append prepend the '+' lines. I'm using Joe as my default editor, so Vim/Vi solutions are not what I'm after. I'm hoping for a Mutt-only solution if its possible. Any ideas? TIA -- -duke Calgary, Alberta, Canada
Re: Quoting message in replies
On Thu, May 17, 2001 at 07:24:14AM -0600, Duke Normandin wrote: I want to have my replies look like the following example: +-- | Hi | | Can anyone tell me the format to define a variable(for | the CVS server) in the inetd.conf file? +-- This will break software that uses the defacto standard for quoting. For example, I routinely use smart formatting in Jed to strip the leading s, reformat the long lines that someone sent, and reinsert the s, all with a single keystroke. It makes messages, especially those with orphans, much easier to read. Non-standard quoting would break this feature which I use many times a day. From .muttrc: # Name: indent_string # Type: string # Default: # # # Specifies the string to prepend to each line of text quoted in a # message to which you are replying. You are strongly encouraged not to # change this value, as it tends to agitate the more fanatical netizens. Regards, -rex
