Re: Where's the MAIL FROM line?
Cliff, et al -- ...and then Cliff Sarginson said... % % On Tue, Jan 01, 2002 at 10:53:39PM -0500, David T-G wrote: % % ...and then Philip Mak said... % % % % Is it possible to see the SMTP MAIL FROM line of a message in my ... % If you mean the ^From_ line that looks about like % %From user@domain Day Mon NN TT:TT:TT ... % % I don;t think he means that, and you can see what you refer to, viz: % % From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Jan 2 % 04:57:29 2002 No, I know that. I simply didn't want to post such a concrete example :-) % % I think he means the MAIL FROM that is part of the SMTP dialog that % goes on between MTA's. Ah. % % As in... % % cliff@tanya:~ telnet localhost 25 ... % 250 tanya.raggedclown.local % MAIL FROM: baggins % 250 Ok ... % QUIT % 221 Bye % Connection closed by foreign host. Hokay. Gotcha there. % % Well, since it is not part of the message, I guess you cannot. But it's used for message information, no? It becomes the ^From: line, or at least so it appears. That's why it's so easy to fake and so on, too, but it looks like whatever is put there would show up in the header. % % -- % Regards % Cliff % :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! msg22088/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Where's the MAIL FROM line?
On Wed, 2 Jan 2002, David T-G wrote: But it's used for message information, no? It becomes the ^From: line, or at least so it appears. That's why it's so easy to fake and so on, too, but it looks like whatever is put there would show up in the header. It's not the ^From: line. For example, when I send e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], I think the SMTP transaction goes something like this: $ telnet localhost 25 HELO localhost MAIL FROM:[EMAIL PROTECTED] RCPT TO:[EMAIL PROTECTED] DATA From: Philip Mak [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mutt Users' List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Where's the MAIL FROM line? Message text goes here. . The MAIL FROM line is not necessarily the same as the ^From: line. In mbox format, the former shows up as From user[@domain] date on the first line of the message, but Maildir format doesn't have that.
Re: Where's the MAIL FROM line?
On Wed, Jan 02, 2002 at 05:24:57AM +0100, Cliff Sarginson wrote: I think he means the MAIL FROM that is part of the SMTP dialog that goes on between MTA's. If so my mail server puts it as part of the Received header like so: Received: from ns.gbnet.net ([EMAIL PROTECTED] [194.70.126.10]) by stroke.of.genius.brain.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g024PN200332 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Tue, 1 Jan 2002 20:25:23 -0800 (PST) Take note of the for [EMAIL PROTECTED] bit. -- Ben Reser [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://ben.reser.org I wish it need not have happened in my time, said Frodo. So do I, said Gandalf, and so do all who live in such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us.
Re: Where's the MAIL FROM line?
Ben, et al -- ...and then Ben Reser said... % % On Wed, Jan 02, 2002 at 05:24:57AM +0100, Cliff Sarginson wrote: % I think he means the MAIL FROM that is part of the SMTP dialog that % goes on between MTA's. % % If so my mail server puts it as part of the Received header like so: % Received: from ns.gbnet.net ([EMAIL PROTECTED] [194.70.126.10]) % by stroke.of.genius.brain.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id % g024PN200332 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Tue, 1 Jan 2002 % 20:25:23 -0800 (PST) % % Take note of the for [EMAIL PROTECTED] bit. Are you sure that's not the RCPT TO: part? % % -- % Ben Reser [EMAIL PROTECTED] % http://ben.reser.org % % I wish it need not have happened in my time, said Frodo. % So do I, said Gandalf, and so do all who live in such times. But % that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do % with the time that is given us. HTH HAND Happy New Year to all :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! msg22098/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Where's the MAIL FROM line?
On Wed, Jan 02, 2002 at 07:16:10AM -0500, Philip Mak wrote: On Wed, 2 Jan 2002, David T-G wrote: But it's used for message information, no? It becomes the ^From: line, or at least so it appears. That's why it's so easy to fake and so on, too, but it looks like whatever is put there would show up in the header. It's not the ^From: line. For example, when I send e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], I think the SMTP transaction goes something like this: $ telnet localhost 25 HELO localhost MAIL FROM:[EMAIL PROTECTED] RCPT TO:[EMAIL PROTECTED] DATA From: Philip Mak [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mutt Users' List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Where's the MAIL FROM line? Message text goes here. . The MAIL FROM line is not necessarily the same as the ^From: line. In mbox format, the former shows up as From user[@domain] date on the first line of the message, but Maildir format doesn't have that. Yup. -- Regards Cliff
Re: Where's the MAIL FROM line?
On Wed, Jan 02, 2002 at 07:47:14AM -0500, David T-G wrote: Are you sure that's not the RCPT TO: part? Your right. This is what happens when I post late at night. :) -- Ben Reser [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://ben.reser.org I wish it need not have happened in my time, said Frodo. So do I, said Gandalf, and so do all who live in such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us.
Where's the MAIL FROM line?
Is it possible to see the SMTP MAIL FROM line of a message in my mailbox, or does Maildir format strip that information out before storing it?
Re: Where's the MAIL FROM line?
Philip -- Hey, what are you doing still using PINE??! ...and then Philip Mak said... % % Is it possible to see the SMTP MAIL FROM line of a message in my % mailbox, or does Maildir format strip that information out before storing % it? If you mean the ^From_ line that looks about like From user@domain Day Mon NN TT:TT:TT then you won't find it; that's part of the mbox format. If not, I'm interested in what it is also, since I haven't heard of it. :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! msg22079/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Where's the MAIL FROM line?
On Tue, Jan 01, 2002 at 10:53:39PM -0500, David T-G wrote: Philip -- Hey, what are you doing still using PINE??! ...and then Philip Mak said... % % Is it possible to see the SMTP MAIL FROM line of a message in my % mailbox, or does Maildir format strip that information out before storing % it? If you mean the ^From_ line that looks about like From user@domain Day Mon NN TT:TT:TT then you won't find it; that's part of the mbox format. If not, I'm interested in what it is also, since I haven't heard of it. I don;t think he means that, and you can see what you refer to, viz: From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Jan 2 04:57:29 2002 I think he means the MAIL FROM that is part of the SMTP dialog that goes on between MTA's. As in... cliff@tanya:~ telnet localhost 25 Trying ::1... Trying ::1... Trying 127.0.0.1... Connected to localhost. Escape character is '^]'. 220 tanya.raggedclown.local ESMTP helo sailor 250 tanya.raggedclown.local MAIL FROM: baggins 250 Ok RCPT TO: frodo 250 Ok DATA 354 End data with CRLF.CRLF Hello sailor . QUIT 221 Bye Connection closed by foreign host. Well, since it is not part of the message, I guess you cannot. -- Regards Cliff
