Re: Adding delsp=yes to Content-Type

2019-07-13 Thread José María Mateos
On Sat, Jul 13, 2019 at 07:56:24PM -0400, sunnycemet...@gmail.com wrote:
> I concur.  Hanging indents lie beyond the scope of RFC 3676.

Indeed, that is the problem.

> They also don't align necessarily when proportionately spaced fonts
> are used, but José probably already knows this. As an alternative,
> have you considered the following?
> 
> 【1】 This is a list.  How does if flow?  Do the double-width brackets make
> the items stand apart?
> 【2】 Here is another item.  The double-width brackets are called
> “lenticular” apparently.  See U+3010 for more.
> 【3】 Bye.

Nah, it's too much. I'll just stick to the fixed with format. It works 
for my purposes and doesn't give much to think about while writing, but 
thanks for the suggestion.

Cheers,

-- 
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Re: Adding delsp=yes to Content-Type

2019-07-13 Thread José María Mateos
On Sat, Jul 13, 2019 at 07:39:22PM -0400, sunnycemet...@gmail.com wrote:
> Whoops.  The second one should have been:
> 
> >“This is  ”
> >“one line.”
> >
> >Becomes:
> >
> >“This is one line.”

Ah, I understand now, thanks :-)

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Re: Adding delsp=yes to Content-Type

2019-07-13 Thread sunnycemetery

On 2019-07-08 21:12, José María Mateos wrote:

On Sun, Jul 07, 2019 at 06:14:15PM -0700, Kevin J. McCarthy wrote:

There actually may be an issue with Mutt here. I think the  
space-stuffing is not working, but I haven't had enough time yet to  
look into the problem and possible solutions more deeply. I'll try to  
address this before the next release though.


Just to be clear, I don't think my particular issue is with mutt here,  
it's simply that the kind of structured text I like to use doesn't play  
well with the flowed format; I never thought it was something particular  
to mutt.


I concur.  Hanging indents lie beyond the scope of RFC 3676.

They also don't align necessarily when proportionately spaced fonts are used,  
but José probably already knows this.  As an alternative, have you considered  
the following?


【1】 This is a list.  How does if flow?  Do the double-width brackets make  
the items stand apart?
【2】 Here is another item.  The double-width brackets are called “lenticular”  
apparently.  See U+3010 for more.

【3】 Bye.


Re: Adding delsp=yes to Content-Type

2019-07-13 Thread sunnycemetery

On 2019-07-07 10:03, José María Mateos wrote:

Mmmh... I don't understand. Aren't those the same two lines? I don't see
any difference between them.


Whoops.  The second one should have been:


“This is  ”
“one line.”

Becomes:

“This is one line.”


Re: Adding delsp=yes to Content-Type

2019-07-08 Thread José María Mateos
On Sun, Jul 07, 2019 at 06:14:15PM -0700, Kevin J. McCarthy wrote:

> There actually may be an issue with Mutt here. I think the
> space-stuffing is not working, but I haven't had enough time yet to
> look into the problem and possible solutions more deeply. I'll try to
> address this before the next release though.

Just to be clear, I don't think my particular issue is with mutt here, 
it's simply that the kind of structured text I like to use doesn't play 
well with the flowed format; I never thought it was something particular 
to mutt.

Cheers,

-- 
José María (Chema) Mateos || https://rinzewind.org/


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Re: Adding delsp=yes to Content-Type

2019-07-07 Thread Kevin J. McCarthy

On Sat, Jul 06, 2019 at 10:39:34AM -0400, José María Mateos wrote:
It did flow well for me. Now I'm curious: I tried to get flowed 
messages working for me but in the end I gave up because I couldn't 
compose indented blocks as I like, so I went back to fixed width 
format.


There actually may be an issue with Mutt here.  I think the 
space-stuffing is not working, but I haven't had enough time yet to look 
into the problem and possible solutions more deeply.  I'll try to 
address this before the next release though.


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Re: Adding delsp=yes to Content-Type

2019-07-07 Thread José María Mateos
On Sun, Jul 07, 2019 at 03:27:09AM -0400, sunnycemet...@gmail.com wrote:
> Could you provide an example of such an indented block?

See my response to Cameron above.

> >What's the effect of delsp?
> 
> It basically removes a single trailing space from each f=f line.  Example:
> 
> “This is ”
> “one line.”
> 
> Becomes:
> 
> “This isone line.”
> 
> However:
> 
> “This is ”
> “one line.”
> 
> Becomes:
> 
> “This is one line.”

Mmmh... I don't understand. Aren't those the same two lines? I don't see 
any difference between them.

Cheers,

-- 
José María (Chema) Mateos || https://rinzewind.org/


Re: Adding delsp=yes to Content-Type

2019-07-07 Thread sunnycemetery

On 2019-07-06 10:39, José María Mateos wrote:
It did flow well for me. Now I'm curious: I tried to get flowed messages 
working for me but in the end I gave up because I couldn't compose 
indented blocks as I like, so I went back to fixed width format.


Could you provide an example of such an indented block?


What's the effect of delsp?


It basically removes a single trailing space from each f=f line.  Example:

“This is ”
“one line.”

Becomes:

“This isone line.”

However:

“This is ”
“one line.”

Becomes:

“This is one line.”

It is handy primarily for two reasons:

· Some languages do not use spaces.
· Mixing flowed and non-flowed lines in a single message body can be  
convenient.


For the latter, consider the following:

“https://www.whydoeseveryurl.com/in.2019?seem=to=tracking=%40%33%54%57 ”
“%38%55%58%68%27%45%71%66%48%47%57%43%69%68%58%30%67%74%70%68%45%58%26%29%29”


Re: Adding delsp=yes to Content-Type

2019-07-06 Thread José María Mateos
On Sat, Jul 06, 2019 at 12:41:21AM -0400, sunnycemet...@gmail.com wrote:
> Thank you for the helpful response.  I was originally hesitant to 
> clobber
> whatever value for Content-Type that mutt created on its own.  However, the
> following seems to sidestep such concerns:
> 
> set content_type = "$content_type; delsp=yes"
> 
> Hopefully this message body flowed well for you.  ;)

It did flow well for me. Now I'm curious: I tried to get flowed messages 
working for me but in the end I gave up because I couldn't compose 
indented blocks as I like, so I went back to fixed width format. What's 
the effect of delsp?

Best,

-- 
José María (Chema) Mateos || https://rinzewind.org/


Re: Adding delsp=yes to Content-Type

2019-07-05 Thread sunnycemetery

On 2019-07-05 07:20, Kevin J. McCarthy wrote:

So how do I set delsp=yes from mutt?  Thank you.


set $content_type or use  in the compose menu.


Thank you for the helpful response.  I was originally hesitant to clobber  
whatever value for Content-Type that mutt created on its own.  However,  
the following seems to sidestep such concerns:


set content_type = "$content_type; delsp=yes"

Hopefully this message body flowed well for you.  ;)


Re: Adding delsp=yes to Content-Type

2019-07-05 Thread Kevin J. McCarthy

On Fri, Jul 05, 2019 at 03:44:48AM -0400, sunnycemet...@gmail.com wrote:

Hello, all.  I tried inserting the following MIME header from my editor:


Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed; delsp=yes;


But mutt ignores the delsp parameter (and possibly the entire header 
declaration, as well).


$edit_headers can only modify envelope headers, so it does ignore the 
content-type header.



So how do I set delsp=yes from mutt?  Thank you.


set $content_type or use  in the compose menu.

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