Re: Deleting old maildir messages, is what I'm doing OK?
On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 05:07:54PM +, Chris wrote in <20210215170754.GA532393@esprimo>: Does no one else ever delete mail messges? :-) I use the following in my .muttrc: # Folder hooks folder-hook =Junk 'push ~r>14d' This sets to delete mails older than 14 days from my Junk folder any time I open that folder. This way it allows me to scan all the mails for possible falls positives without having to worry mail gets lost if I haven't checked it for more than x days.
Re: Deleting old maildir messages, is what I'm doing OK?
* Cameron Simpson [02-15-21 17:06]: > On 15Feb2021 17:07, Chris Green wrote: > >Does no one else ever delete mail messges? :-) > > Hmm: > > [~/mail]fleet2*1> ls -ldh spam* > -rw-rw-r-- 1 cameron cameron 1.7G 16 Feb 08:43 spam > -rw-rw-r-- 1 cameron cameron 609M 16 Feb 08:46 spam-definite > > Possibly not. > > Can you tell mairix to not index the Junk folders? certainly omit= in .mairixrc -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode
Re: Deleting old maildir messages, is what I'm doing OK?
On 16Feb2021 09:05, Cameron Simpson wrote: >On 15Feb2021 17:07, Chris Green wrote: >>Does no one else ever delete mail messges? :-) > >Hmm: >[~/mail]fleet2*1> ls -ldh spam* >-rw-rw-r-- 1 cameron cameron 1.7G 16 Feb 08:43 spam >-rw-rw-r-- 1 cameron cameron 609M 16 Feb 08:46 spam-definite The other thing of note here is that these are mbox folders (like many of my less visited folders, for compactness). You could just move them sideways and remove "old" sideways folders? I guess that works for Maildir too, now that I think about it. Cheers, Cameron Simpson
Re: Deleting old maildir messages, is what I'm doing OK?
On 15Feb2021 17:07, Chris Green wrote: >Does no one else ever delete mail messges? :-) Hmm: [~/mail]fleet2*1> ls -ldh spam* -rw-rw-r-- 1 cameron cameron 1.7G 16 Feb 08:43 spam -rw-rw-r-- 1 cameron cameron 609M 16 Feb 08:46 spam-definite Possibly not. Can you tell mairix to not index the Junk folders? Cheers, Cameron Simpson
Re: Deleting old maildir messages, is what I'm doing OK?
On 20210215, Angel M Alganza wrote: On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 12:49:53PM -0800, Felix Finch wrote: On 20210215, Kevin J. McCarthy wrote: You could write a script, I guess, something like: cd $header_cache_dir rm -f * How well would that play with existing mutt sessions? I run several mutts inside tmux (local mail, work IMAP mail, etc), and sessions will run for weeks. With no problem. When it doesn't find a cache, it'll make a new one. Right, but what if it discovers the new cache while half-built? Or what if it discovers no cache between the rm and the build, and they try to build it at the same time? -- ... _._. ._ ._. . _._. ._. ___ .__ ._. . .__. ._ .. ._. Felix Finch: scarecrow repairman & wood chipper / fe...@crowfix.com GPG = E987 4493 C860 246C 3B1E 6477 7838 76E9 182E 8151 ITAR license #4933 I've found a solution to Fermat's Last Theorem but I see I've run out of room o
Re: Deleting old maildir messages, is what I'm doing OK?
On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 12:49:53PM -0800, Felix Finch wrote: On 20210215, Kevin J. McCarthy wrote: You could write a script, I guess, something like: cd $header_cache_dir rm -f * How well would that play with existing mutt sessions? I run several mutts inside tmux (local mail, work IMAP mail, etc), and sessions will run for weeks. With no problem. When it doesn't find a cache, it'll make a new one. Cheers, Ángel
Re: Deleting old maildir messages, is what I'm doing OK?
On 20210215, Kevin J. McCarthy wrote: You could write a script, I guess, something like: cd $header_cache_dir rm -f * cd $mutt_folder_dir for mb in *; do mutt -e 'set quit=yes; push ""' -f $mb done How well would that play with existing mutt sessions? I run several mutts inside tmux (local mail, work IMAP mail, etc), and sessions will run for weeks. -- ... _._. ._ ._. . _._. ._. ___ .__ ._. . .__. ._ .. ._. Felix Finch: scarecrow repairman & wood chipper / fe...@crowfix.com GPG = E987 4493 C860 246C 3B1E 6477 7838 76E9 182E 8151 ITAR license #4933 I've found a solution to Fermat's Last Theorem but I see I've run out of room o
Re: Deleting old maildir messages, is what I'm doing OK?
On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 08:04:10PM +, Chris Green wrote: I have (for example) about 6000 messages in my sentmail folder, it loads in less than a second. It is a *lot* faster since I installed an NVME SSD. Well, in that case it might not be such an improvement to use the header cache and it could even be counterproductive to write more on the SSD. Now, I wonder if would be worth to keep the cache in a ram disk. I guess it would be much faster and don't touch the disk (better for SSD). Well... I've gone ahead and try setting my header cache like: set header_cache=/tmp/ama/mutt/cache/ Since I have /tmp/ on a RAM disk, that'd do it. It's working faster (I don't have the luxury of a powerful box or a SSD disk, hehe) and it will be deleted @reboot, so I won't have to care about deleting it manually from time to time. I'm keeping it at least for now, to test it further. Cheers, Ángel
Re: Deleting old maildir messages, is what I'm doing OK?
On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 08:51:35PM +0100, Angel M Alganza wrote: > On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 07:40:58PM +, Chris Green wrote: > > > Where does mutt keep these header caches then? > > I have 'set header_cache=~/.mutt/cache/'. > > > I don't have set header_cache set for the good reason that mutt doesn't > > download mail from anywhere, it's all here on my desktop. > > The cache is for the headers, so that Mutt loads even local maildirs much > faster. So, I think even it might not be an issue, everybody might benefit > from the cache. Perhaps if you have small maildirs and/or a very powerful > computer it doesn't make much a difference? > I have (for example) about 6000 messages in my sentmail folder, it loads in less than a second. It is a *lot* faster since I installed an NVME SSD. -- Chris Green
Re: Deleting old maildir messages, is what I'm doing OK?
On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 10:12:50AM -0800, Felix Finch wrote: On 20210215, Kevin J. McCarthy wrote: once in a while you may want to regenerate your header caches. Is there any way to do that from the command line? You could write a script, I guess, something like: cd $header_cache_dir rm -f * cd $mutt_folder_dir for mb in *; do mutt -e 'set quit=yes; push ""' -f $mb done -- Kevin J. McCarthy GPG Fingerprint: 8975 A9B3 3AA3 7910 385C 5308 ADEF 7684 8031 6BDA signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Deleting old maildir messages, is what I'm doing OK?
On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 07:40:58PM +, Chris Green wrote: Where does mutt keep these header caches then? I have 'set header_cache=~/.mutt/cache/'. I don't have set header_cache set for the good reason that mutt doesn't download mail from anywhere, it's all here on my desktop. The cache is for the headers, so that Mutt loads even local maildirs much faster. So, I think even it might not be an issue, everybody might benefit from the cache. Perhaps if you have small maildirs and/or a very powerful computer it doesn't make much a difference? Cheers, Ángel
Re: Deleting old maildir messages, is what I'm doing OK?
On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 11:17:42AM -0800, Kevin J. McCarthy wrote: at a certain point the cache will lose some efficiency by sheer size. From time to time I simply delete the whole contents of my ~/.mutt/cache directory to keep it a bit more efficient. A kind of prune function would be neat, although perhaps it's too resource intensive and that's why it hasn't been implemented? Rebuilding the cache after deleting the whole thing doesn't seem too bad to me, as it's done maildir by maildir when being accessed next, so I think it's fine. Cheers, Ángel
Re: Deleting old maildir messages, is what I'm doing OK?
On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 11:17:42AM -0800, Kevin J. McCarthy wrote: > On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 06:03:20PM +, Chris Green wrote: > > Is that mutt's header caches? > > Yes, that's what I meant to say. :) > > > If so I don't tend to leave mutt running all the time, I assume it > > refreshes things whenever it's started does it? > > Unfortunately, for header caches, "refreshing" doesn't include removing no > longer existing messages from the cache. It just means the header cache > will slowly grow, even though you are trimming the mailbox externally. Not > the end of the world, but at a certain point the cache will lose some > efficiency by sheer size. > Where does mutt keep these header caches then? Ah, just a minute, I don't have set header_cache set for the good reason that mutt doesn't download mail from anywhere, it's all here on my desktop. When I read mail remotely I simply ssh to my desktop machine and run mutt. So I don't think this is an issue for me. -- Chris Green
Re: Deleting old maildir messages, is what I'm doing OK?
On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 06:03:20PM +, Chris Green wrote: Is that mutt's header caches? Yes, that's what I meant to say. :) If so I don't tend to leave mutt running all the time, I assume it refreshes things whenever it's started does it? Unfortunately, for header caches, "refreshing" doesn't include removing no longer existing messages from the cache. It just means the header cache will slowly grow, even though you are trimming the mailbox externally. Not the end of the world, but at a certain point the cache will lose some efficiency by sheer size. -- Kevin J. McCarthy GPG Fingerprint: 8975 A9B3 3AA3 7910 385C 5308 ADEF 7684 8031 6BDA signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Deleting old maildir messages, is what I'm doing OK?
On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 06:00:47PM +, Chris Green wrote: > It's odd that none of the "maildir works like this" descriptions I > could find had anything about deleting mails. I agree. That's an unfortunate gap in the literature. -- A: When it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: When is top-posting a bad thing? () ASCII ribbon campaign. Please avoid HTML emails & proprietary /\ file formats. (Why? See e.g. https://v.gd/jrmGbS ). Thank you.
Re: Deleting old maildir messages, is what I'm doing OK?
On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 06:12:39PM +, Chris Green wrote: > mails in my junk catching directories, is it OK/safe to do it like this? Other ones are error messages from a remote server which I usually don't care about but occasionally I want to look at. Oh, that's interesting. I might be setting my own set of junk catching maildirs for things like those that I clean manually every now and then. My mail is delivered by SMTP direct to my desktop machine which runs postfix and is on all the time. As a backup I have my domain hosting service deliver all my mail to another system as well as to my home server. I synchronize (mbsyn) all email into my IMAP server to several different desktops, laptops and phones and, in my main desktop, I make an incremental backup through BTRFS snapshots that I keep for years. So, at all times I have multiples copies of all email across different devices, a 'bak' remote IMAP maildir to keep every email for 180 days, and also an incremental back up. Re-reading this last paragraph I think I might come across a little paranoid (and no, I don't work for a secret agency or anything, LOL), but I have developed the system over many years, and as I implemented new ideas and kept the previous, it's got those many 'layers'. But I like it and it works very nicely by giving me the peace of mind that I can recover every single piece of g̶a̶r̶b̶a̶g̶e̶ email I might need (I will never, hehe, but still...) Cheers, Ángel
Re: Deleting old maildir messages, is what I'm doing OK?
On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 09:54:06AM -0800, Kevin J. McCarthy wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 04:21:11PM +, Chris Green wrote:
> > I currently have the following two lines in my crontab to delete old
> > mails in my junk catching directories, is it OK/safe to do it like
> > this?
> >
> >20 02 * * * find /home/chris/mail/Ju/*/cur -type f -mtime +7 -exec rm {}
> > \;
> >30 02 * * * find /home/chris/mail/Ju/*/new -type f -mtime +7 -exec rm {}
> > \;
>
> That should be fine. The only caveat is header caching. If you delete
> messages outside of mutt, those messages won't be removed from the header
> cache. Probably not a big deal for "junk catching" folders, but once in a
> while you may want to regenerate your header caches.
>
Is that mutt's header caches? If so I don't tend to leave mutt
running all the time, I assume it refreshes things whenever it's
started does it?
--
Chris Green (ch...@halon.org.uk)
Re: Deleting old maildir messages, is what I'm doing OK?
On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 05:39:26PM +, Sam Kuper wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 04:21:11PM +, Chris Green wrote:
> > This isn't specifically mutt but it's definitely to do with managing
> > mail and there's lots of knowledgeable people here.
> >
> > I currently have the following two lines in my crontab to delete old
> > mails in my junk catching directories, is it OK/safe to do it like
> > this?
> >
> > 20 02 * * * find /home/chris/mail/Ju/*/cur -type f -mtime +7 -exec rm
> > {} \;
> > 30 02 * * * find /home/chris/mail/Ju/*/new -type f -mtime +7 -exec rm
> > {} \;
>
> If you have software expecting to be able to read or write to the files
> affected by the above commands, then if that software is not able to
> handle the sudden disappearance of those files, it may throw errors or
> otherwise misbehave. Software designed to work with Maildirs should
> not have problems, though.
>
Almost certainly only me using mutt to read them, and that's pretty
unlikely since they're in my junk directory. I might occasionally look
in there to check something but it's very rare, if ever.
> Also, unless I am mistaken, `find ... -exec rm () \;` is not atomic, so
> a race condition exists: `find` could find a matching file, but then
> some other piece of software could delete or rename it before `rm` does.
>
> (If I am mistaken, someone please correct me!)
>
Yes, true, but all that will happen is that I'll get an error sent to
me so it's not really a problem.
> Finally, I suppose that to be technically correct, you perhaps ought to
> first move the files from "new" to "cur", and then delete them from
> "cur". A true mail guru may be able to shed light on this.
>
I suppose deleting a file sort of counts as reading it.
> IMO, the likelihood is low that any of these issues will bite you.
>
Yes, thank you, I *thought* this was so but just wanted to make sure I
wasn't doing something very obviously wrong/risky.
It's odd that none of the "maildir works like this" descriptions I
could find had anything about deleting mails.
--
Chris Green (ch...@halon.org.uk)
Re: Deleting old maildir messages, is what I'm doing OK?
On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 05:07:54PM +, Chris Green wrote: Does no one else ever delete mail messges? :-) I do, and I try to be ruthless doing it. Since I copy every single piece of email into my IMAP 'bak' mailfolder, where it sits for 180 days before it is automatically deleted, I make sure that I can get back anything I might delete by mistake or modify the wrong way. Even though I still have thousands and thousands of older email that I want to eventually tackle (meaning look through and delete), you know, when I get the time... (LOL). Cheers, Ángel
Re: Deleting old maildir messages, is what I'm doing OK?
On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 09:54:06AM -0800, Kevin J. McCarthy wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 04:21:11PM +, Chris Green wrote:
> > I currently have the following two lines in my crontab to delete old
> > mails in my junk catching directories, is it OK/safe to do it like
> > this?
> >
> >20 02 * * * find /home/chris/mail/Ju/*/cur -type f -mtime +7 -exec rm {}
> > \;
> >30 02 * * * find /home/chris/mail/Ju/*/new -type f -mtime +7 -exec rm {}
> > \;
>
> That should be fine. The only caveat is header caching. If you delete
> messages outside of mutt, those messages won't be removed from the header
> cache. Probably not a big deal for "junk catching" folders, but once in a
> while you may want to regenerate your header caches.
>
Is that mutt's header caches? If so I don't tend to leave mutt
running all the time, I assume it refreshes things whenever it's
started does it?
--
Chris Green
Re: Deleting old maildir messages, is what I'm doing OK?
On 20210215, Kevin J. McCarthy wrote: That should be fine. The only caveat is header caching. If you delete messages outside of mutt, those messages won't be removed from the header cache. Probably not a big deal for "junk catching" folders, but once in a while you may want to regenerate your header caches. Is there any way to do that from the command line? -- ... _._. ._ ._. . _._. ._. ___ .__ ._. . .__. ._ .. ._. Felix Finch: scarecrow repairman & wood chipper / fe...@crowfix.com GPG = E987 4493 C860 246C 3B1E 6477 7838 76E9 182E 8151 ITAR license #4933 I've found a solution to Fermat's Last Theorem but I see I've run out of room o
Re: Deleting old maildir messages, is what I'm doing OK?
On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 06:55:54PM +0100, Angel M Alganza wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 04:21:11PM +, Chris Green wrote:
>
> > mails in my junk catching directories, is it OK/safe to do it like this?
> >
> >20 02 * * * find /home/chris/mail/Ju/*/cur -type f -mtime +7 -exec rm {}
> > \;
> >30 02 * * * find /home/chris/mail/Ju/*/new -type f -mtime +7 -exec rm {}
> > \;
>
> Are those junk catching directories where you place email to be deleted
> temporarily, so that you don't through them right away? Lie a Trash maildir
> of sorts? I use trash locally and Trash remotely (at the IMAP server) to
> serve that function.
>
They get mail directed to them that I read by other means. For
example I'm subscribed to a number of mailing lists that are also fed
to Usenet news by Gmane. I need to be subscribed to the lists so that
I can post messages via Gmane. Occasionally I may need to go via
E-Mail. Other ones are error messages from a remote server which I
usually don't care about but occasionally I want to look at.
Thus keeping the messages for a week and then automatically deleting
them makes sense for me.
[snip details about IMAP handling]
My mail is delivered by SMTP direct to my desktop machine which runs
postfix and is on all the time. As a backup I have my domain hosting
service deliver all my mail to another system as well as to my home
server.
--
Chris Green (ch...@halon.org.uk)
Re: Deleting old maildir messages, is what I'm doing OK?
On 20210215, Chris Green wrote: On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 12:32:28PM -0500, José María Mateos wrote: On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 05:07:54PM +, Chris Green wrote: > Does no one else ever delete mail messges? :-) I do, but for Junk / Trash I just set expiration times on those folders on my e-mail provider (Fastmail) so I don't even have to think about that. My 'e-mail provider' is me so I have to expire the messages myself, hence the question. I have developed an archive / delete system over the years. I want a complete archive of some maildirs, so a cronjob moves them to an archive structure. Others I keep just a couple of weeks and then delete. Junk/Trash/Spam sticks around for three days in case something came in from an unexpected source. -- ... _._. ._ ._. . _._. ._. ___ .__ ._. . .__. ._ .. ._. Felix Finch: scarecrow repairman & wood chipper / fe...@crowfix.com GPG = E987 4493 C860 246C 3B1E 6477 7838 76E9 182E 8151 ITAR license #4933 I've found a solution to Fermat's Last Theorem but I see I've run out of room o
Re: Deleting old maildir messages, is what I'm doing OK?
On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 04:21:11PM +, Chris Green wrote:
mails in my junk catching directories, is it OK/safe to do it like
this?
20 02 * * * find /home/chris/mail/Ju/*/cur -type f -mtime +7 -exec rm {} \;
30 02 * * * find /home/chris/mail/Ju/*/new -type f -mtime +7 -exec rm {} \;
Are those junk catching directories where you place email to be deleted
temporarily, so that you don't through them right away? Lie a Trash
maildir of sorts? I use trash locally and Trash remotely (at the IMAP
server) to serve that function.
The first thing I do when processing email is making an automatic copy
in the IMAP server of every email in the IMAP server through this rule:
bak = ama["INBOX"]:is_new()
bak : copy_messages(ama["bak"])
So, in case something goes wrong, I can always go back to the original
mail. My backup maildir (bak) gets deleted after 180 days, and my Trash
maildir (IMAP) gets deleted after 30 days through this imapfilter rule:
old = ama.bak:is_older(180)
+ ama.Trash:is_older(30)
old : delete_messages()
Now, in some boxes I delete email but don't synchronize back the local
trash maildir to the IMAP server (sometimes I do, but not always. And
then to prevent deleted email to accumulate in local maildirs I delete
it though a couple of cron jobs very much like yours:
@daily /usr/bin/nice find ~/mail/trash/cur/ -type f -ctime +7 -delete
@daily /usr/bin/nice find ~/mail/trash/new/ -type f -ctime +7 -delete
I believe Mutt has no problems at all with mailfolders beeying
manipulated externally by other programs (in fact, I fetch my email
with mbsync, sort email and modify subjects and such with imapfilter,
etc., I think it's just fine deleting old junk using the find jobs as we
both do. (Unless I'm missing something.)
Cheers,
Ángel
Re: Deleting old maildir messages, is what I'm doing OK?
On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 04:21:11PM +, Chris Green wrote:
I currently have the following two lines in my crontab to delete old
mails in my junk catching directories, is it OK/safe to do it like
this?
20 02 * * * find /home/chris/mail/Ju/*/cur -type f -mtime +7 -exec rm {} \;
30 02 * * * find /home/chris/mail/Ju/*/new -type f -mtime +7 -exec rm {} \;
That should be fine. The only caveat is header caching. If you delete
messages outside of mutt, those messages won't be removed from the
header cache. Probably not a big deal for "junk catching" folders, but
once in a while you may want to regenerate your header caches.
--
Kevin J. McCarthy
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Re: Deleting old maildir messages, is what I'm doing OK?
On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 04:21:11PM +, Chris Green wrote:
> This isn't specifically mutt but it's definitely to do with managing
> mail and there's lots of knowledgeable people here.
>
> I currently have the following two lines in my crontab to delete old
> mails in my junk catching directories, is it OK/safe to do it like
> this?
>
> 20 02 * * * find /home/chris/mail/Ju/*/cur -type f -mtime +7 -exec rm {}
> \;
> 30 02 * * * find /home/chris/mail/Ju/*/new -type f -mtime +7 -exec rm {}
> \;
If you have software expecting to be able to read or write to the files
affected by the above commands, then if that software is not able to
handle the sudden disappearance of those files, it may throw errors or
otherwise misbehave. Software designed to work with Maildirs should
not have problems, though.
Also, unless I am mistaken, `find ... -exec rm () \;` is not atomic, so
a race condition exists: `find` could find a matching file, but then
some other piece of software could delete or rename it before `rm` does.
(If I am mistaken, someone please correct me!)
Finally, I suppose that to be technically correct, you perhaps ought to
first move the files from "new" to "cur", and then delete them from
"cur". A true mail guru may be able to shed light on this.
IMO, the likelihood is low that any of these issues will bite you.
Sam
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Re: Deleting old maildir messages, is what I'm doing OK?
On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 12:32:28PM -0500, José María Mateos wrote: > On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 05:07:54PM +, Chris Green wrote: > > Does no one else ever delete mail messges? :-) > > I do, but for Junk / Trash I just set expiration times on those folders on > my e-mail provider (Fastmail) so I don't even have to think about that. > My 'e-mail provider' is me so I have to expire the messages myself, hence the question. -- Chris Green
Re: Deleting old maildir messages, is what I'm doing OK?
On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 05:07:54PM +, Chris Green wrote: Does no one else ever delete mail messges? :-) I do, but for Junk / Trash I just set expiration times on those folders on my e-mail provider (Fastmail) so I don't even have to think about that. Cheers, -- José María (Chema) Mateos || https://rinzewind.org
Re: Deleting old maildir messages, is what I'm doing OK?
On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 05:58:25PM +0100, Matthias Beyer wrote: > On 15-02-2021 16:38:43, Chris Green wrote: > > On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 05:26:09PM +0100, Matthias Beyer wrote: > > > On 15-02-2021 16:21:11, Chris Green wrote: > > > > I currently have the following two lines in my crontab to delete old > > > > mails in my junk catching directories > > > > > > I mean, how many tens of GB of mail do you get each year so that > > > it is necessary to delete stuff? > > > > > Zillions of small files can make searching and stuff slow too. > > May I suggest something like notmuch [0] for your mail setup? > > My maildir is about 75k messages right now and searching is in the range of > less than a second. > Maybe you just need the right tool? ;-) > I use mairix and it works fast and well. Does no one else ever delete mail messges? :-) -- Chris Green
Re: Deleting old maildir messages, is what I'm doing OK?
On 15-02-2021 16:38:43, Chris Green wrote: > On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 05:26:09PM +0100, Matthias Beyer wrote: > > On 15-02-2021 16:21:11, Chris Green wrote: > > > I currently have the following two lines in my crontab to delete old > > > mails in my junk catching directories > > > > I mean, how many tens of GB of mail do you get each year so that > > it is necessary to delete stuff? > > > Zillions of small files can make searching and stuff slow too. May I suggest something like notmuch [0] for your mail setup? My maildir is about 75k messages right now and searching is in the range of less than a second. Maybe you just need the right tool? ;-) [0] notmuchmail.org signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Deleting old maildir messages, is what I'm doing OK?
On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 05:26:09PM +0100, Matthias Beyer wrote: > On 15-02-2021 16:21:11, Chris Green wrote: > > I currently have the following two lines in my crontab to delete old > > mails in my junk catching directories > > May I ask why? I mean, how many tens of GB of mail do you get each year so > that > it is necessary to delete stuff? > It's more for 'good housekeeping' than saving space. However I do currently have 1.7Gb of mail which I *do* want saved in my mail directories so adding a lot of unwanted stuff might add quite a bit. Zillions of small files can make searching and stuff slow too. I've just thought that I could rename the Ju directory at intervals (say once a week) and then remove old ones. It's not possible to make this atomic though, I don't think. -- Chris Green
Re: Deleting old maildir messages, is what I'm doing OK?
On 15-02-2021 16:21:11, Chris Green wrote: > I currently have the following two lines in my crontab to delete old > mails in my junk catching directories May I ask why? I mean, how many tens of GB of mail do you get each year so that it is necessary to delete stuff? Matthias signature.asc Description: PGP signature
