Re: NNTP ?
Xavier Maillard hat am Do 14. Nov, 05:58 (+0100) geschrieben: > On Wed, Nov 13, 2019 at 06:10:06PM +0100, Wim wrote: > > Hi Xavier, > > > > > > > So, I just started my trip in the Mutt world. So far, I like it. Just > > > > > a quickie: does mutt support NNTP as well ? > > > > Neomutt which supports NNTP might be what you're looking for: > > Seems like, yes. > > Except it has more (?) features than mutt, is it under heavy development > ? I do not want to install yet another tool if it ends being not that > alive :) Yes, it's under heavy development. There was a release of a big rewrite a few days ago. Regards Jörg -- »Das ist wie mit allen Löschfunktionen im Internet: Du kannst Dir nur sichern seien, dass es auf Deinem Rechner verschwunden ist. An alle anderen ist es eine Bitte.« signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: NNTP ?
On Wed, Nov 13, 2019 at 06:10:06PM +0100, Wim wrote: > Hi Xavier, > > > > > So, I just started my trip in the Mutt world. So far, I like it. Just > > > > a quickie: does mutt support NNTP as well ? > > Neomutt which supports NNTP might be what you're looking for: Seems like, yes. Except it has more (?) features than mutt, is it under heavy development ? I do not want to install yet another tool if it ends being not that alive :) Regards -- - xma GPG: BA4909B7 8F04DE1B
Re: NNTP ?
Hi Xavier, > > > So, I just started my trip in the Mutt world. So far, I like it. Just > > > a quickie: does mutt support NNTP as well ? Neomutt which supports NNTP might be what you're looking for: https://neomutt.org All the best Wim -- |\ _,,,---,,_ ZZZzz /,`.-'`'-. ;-;;,_ |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-' '---''(_/--' `-'\_)
Re: NNTP ?
On 2019-11-12 16:32, Will Yardley wrote: > On Tue, Nov 12, 2019 at 09:49:41PM +0100, Xavier Maillard wrote: > > > > So, I just started my trip in the Mutt world. So far, I like it. Just > > a quickie: does mutt support NNTP as well ? > > Without a patch, I don't think so. > > I haven't had a usenet feed for a long time, but a lot of mutt users use > things like SLRN. You can always write a rather simple script to fetch your articles and email them to yourself. I can point you to my script if you like. The C program "suck" can be part of the solution, but it is not the cleanest work of engineering out there. On the posting side you can use a remailer like dizum.com. -- Please don't Cc: me privately on mailing lists and Usenet, if you also post the followup to the list or newsgroup. To reply privately _only_ on Usenet and on broken lists which rewrite From, fetch the TXT record for no-use.mooo.com.
Re: NNTP ?
On 12.11.19,16:32, Will Yardley wrote: > On Tue, Nov 12, 2019 at 09:49:41PM +0100, Xavier Maillard wrote: > > > > So, I just started my trip in the Mutt world. So far, I like it. Just > > a quickie: does mutt support NNTP as well ? > > Without a patch, I don't think so. > > I haven't had a usenet feed for a long time, but a lot of mutt users use > things like SLRN. > > w The most recent nntp patch seems to be here: https://mutt.org.ua/download/mutt-1.12.1/ https://mutt.org.ua/download/ http://andreberger.eu/?p=68 Some install instructions in German here: http://www.strcat.de/eigenes/mutt.html Jostein
Re: NNTP ?
On Tue, Nov 12, 2019 at 09:49:41PM +0100, Xavier Maillard wrote: > > So, I just started my trip in the Mutt world. So far, I like it. Just > a quickie: does mutt support NNTP as well ? Without a patch, I don't think so. I haven't had a usenet feed for a long time, but a lot of mutt users use things like SLRN. w
Re: NNTP reader?
On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 10:12:22PM -0300, Aaron Toponce wrote: I love it when something someone doesn't agree with gets tagged as trolling. Meh. I love it when something that's trolling gets tagged as trolling. Seriously... you posted an e-mail in a public forum whose sole content was to proclaim that a long-time and respected member of the community misused the term operating system in his post. So, let's see... * Off topic, for both the thread and this list? Check. * Contains language which is incendiary or expected to produce an emotional response? (Not sure how butting in to tell someone flatly that their usage of terminology is wrong could not be viewed that way.) Check. * Argumentative without making a useful point? Check. * Contributes zero to the OP's (or any) discussion? Check. * text book definition of trolling? Check. So there you have it. Your post was trolling, by definition. I tried to be nicer about pointing out that you were trolling, but you weren't having any of that... I suspect most people would agree that your suggestion that the way David used Linux and Operating System together was inappropriate is rather silly, but sadly that can not be proven. Tell you what, you install just the Linux kernel, and nothing more, on your laptop, and tell me just how usable your operating system is. Trolling in the very e-mail where one attempts to suggest that one is not trolling: Priceless™ Have a lovely day. -- Derek D. Martinhttp://www.pizzashack.org/ GPG Key ID: 0xDFBEAD02 -=-=-=-=- This message is posted from an invalid address. Replying to it will result in undeliverable mail due to spam prevention. Sorry for the inconvenience. pgpR5Ro4QGGSl.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: NNTP reader?
Hello, On Mon, Oct 03, 2011 at 12:49:20PM -0500, Derek Martin wrote: On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 02:46:43PM -0600, Aaron Toponce wrote: Linux is a kernel, not an operating system. I suggest you not go there (like, ever). This statement is at least arguably false on several levels, Well, Linux is just a kernel, there's nothing to argue about. Mutt is MUA, not a framework for MUA/NNTPUA/whatever-you-like. Hope you get it. On the other hand, both are free as in free speech, so you are obviously free to tailor them to your liking, producing Linux-as-a-system, or mutt-as-a-framework. Please don't forget then, that mutt and Linux Developers are also free to either accept or reject you patches and this will serve as a indicator of Linux's as-a-systemness or mutt's as-a-frameworkiness in public opinion. -- With best regards, xrgtn
Re: NNTP reader?
On 2011-09-30, Aaron Toponce aaron.topo...@gmail.com wrote: On 09/29/2011 06:17 AM, Leonardo M. Ramé wrote: Hi, does anyone knows if it can be possible to read/subscribe to newsgroups (nntp) with mutt?. Mutt is just an MUA, and attempts to extend it into anything more than that (RSS reader, NNTP reader, etc.) are silly IMO. If you must absolutely have NNTP and mail, then Mutt isn't for you. I would recommend using Gnus (http://gnus.org). Many mutt users find slrn to be sufficiently mutt-like that they decide to forget about trying to pound the mutt peg into the nntp hole. -- Grant Edwards grant.b.edwardsYow! I'm using my X-RAY at VISION to obtain a rare gmail.comglimpse of the INNER WORKINGS of this POTATO!!
Re: NNTP reader?
On Mon, Oct 03, 2011 at 02:33:45PM +, Grant Edwards wrote: On 2011-09-30, Aaron Toponce aaron.topo...@gmail.com wrote: On 09/29/2011 06:17 AM, Leonardo M. Ram? wrote: Hi, does anyone knows if it can be possible to read/subscribe to newsgroups (nntp) with mutt?. Mutt is just an MUA, and attempts to extend it into anything more than that (RSS reader, NNTP reader, etc.) are silly IMO. If you must absolutely have NNTP and mail, then Mutt isn't for you. I would recommend using Gnus (http://gnus.org). Many mutt users find slrn to be sufficiently mutt-like that they decide to forget about trying to pound the mutt peg into the nntp hole. Personally I use tin rather than slrn as it seems to fit my 'mutt mind' better. -- Chris Green
Re: NNTP reader?
On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 02:46:43PM -0600, Aaron Toponce wrote: On 09/30/2011 01:04 PM, David Champion wrote: Linux is just a server platform, and attempts to make it anything more than that (desktop, embedded system, etc.) are silly. If you must absolutely have POSIX and a desktop, then Linux isn't for you. I would recomend using MacOS (http://apple.com). Linux is a kernel, not an operating system. I suggest you not go there (like, ever). This statement is at least arguably false on several levels, and its truth value really depends on the definitions of some terms that at best have been somewhat fluid over time or variable depending on what authority you use... It's more the matter of religious dogma than technical or literal fact, and practically speaking, it matters not at all... All but the most neophyte of readers (and probably most of those even, I would guess) will understand what was meant. -- Derek D. Martinhttp://www.pizzashack.org/ GPG Key ID: 0xDFBEAD02 -=-=-=-=- This message is posted from an invalid address. Replying to it will result in undeliverable mail due to spam prevention. Sorry for the inconvenience. pgpvbCiS2VVGY.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: NNTP reader?
On Mon, Oct 03, 2011 at 01:39:11PM -0600, Aaron Toponce wrote: On Mon, Oct 03, 2011 at 12:49:20PM -0500, Derek Martin wrote: Linux is a kernel, not an operating system. I suggest you not go there (like, ever). This statement is at least arguably false on several levels, and its truth value really depends on the definitions of some terms that at best have been somewhat fluid over time or variable depending on what authority you use... It's more the matter of religious dogma than technical or literal fact, and practically speaking, it matters not at all... All but the most neophyte of readers (and probably most of those even, I would guess) will understand what was meant. Oh brother. This has nothing to do with religious dogma. It's a kernel. That's it. It's an operating system kernel. Plain and simple. Read this in case you think otherwise: https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Linux_kernel Oh brother indeed. I'm doing a (free) operating system (just a hobby, won't be big and professional like gnu) for 386(486) AT clones. This has been brewing since April, and is starting to get ready. I'd like any feedback on things people like/dislike in minix, as my OS resembles it somewhat (same physical layout of the file-system (due to practical reasons) among other things). 1. Linus himself calls it an operating system, in that very document to which you referred. 2. Multiple learning materials I used as text books in computer sience and technology classes in college 100 years ago and my own leisure reading defined the operating system as the kernel. 3. There exist a whole classification of products which bear the Linux name which are not just the Linux Kernel, which collectively are referred to as Linux by most of the industry (except for GNU bigots^H^H^H^H^H^Henthusiasts). So again, your statement is at least arguably false, on multiple levels. As I said. You can argue these are all wrong if you want to, but I can find legitimate authorities to refute that as easily as you can find them to support it. So again, it's dogma, not fact. I put legitimate authorities in quotes because we have no language police, other than those self-appointed to the task. There are no true bona fide authorities, only historical usage. Which is fine, because words obtain their meanings in that fashion. -- Derek D. Martinhttp://www.pizzashack.org/ GPG Key ID: 0xDFBEAD02 -=-=-=-=- This message is posted from an invalid address. Replying to it will result in undeliverable mail due to spam prevention. Sorry for the inconvenience. pgpkuxKN7Qe40.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: NNTP reader?
On Mon, Oct 03, 2011 at 03:13:54PM -0500, Derek Martin wrote: I put legitimate authorities in quotes because we have no language police ...unless you live in France, Belgium, Switzerland, or Quebec. =8^) -- Derek D. Martinhttp://www.pizzashack.org/ GPG Key ID: 0xDFBEAD02 -=-=-=-=- This message is posted from an invalid address. Replying to it will result in undeliverable mail due to spam prevention. Sorry for the inconvenience. pgpZy2IQTGmUm.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: NNTP reader?
On Mon, Oct 03, 2011 at 03:31:37PM -0600, Aaron Toponce wrote: Legitimate authorities categorized Pluto a planet, even though many in the scientific community would argue otherwise. Of course, legitimate authorities are never wrong, are they? That is exactly my point, thanks for making it. Or perhaps your own authority on this topic is somehow irrefutable and inscrutable? Oh, right, you have wikipedia on your side, which everyone knows is, in fact, irrefutable and inscrutable. I forgot. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux Linux is a computer operating system which is based on free and open source software. Linux is a leading server operating system, and runs the 10 fastest supercomputers in the world. What you are arguing is semantics, and that's never terribly a productive use of your time. Calling someone out for using a word in a way that you personally don't agree with even though you understood perfectly well what was meant is equally unproductive and pointless, except perhaps to massage your own ego. Doing so when the that usage of the term clearly has copious extant examples demonstrating accepted usage, as in this case (googling the *exact phrase* Linux operating system yeilds 4.7 MILLION results), is just trolling. And that, IMO, does deserve to be called out. -- Derek D. Martinhttp://www.pizzashack.org/ GPG Key ID: 0xDFBEAD02 -=-=-=-=- This message is posted from an invalid address. Replying to it will result in undeliverable mail due to spam prevention. Sorry for the inconvenience. pgpZtLbVsfeCM.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: NNTP reader?
Aaron Toponce aaron.topo...@gmail.com writes: On 09/29/2011 06:17 AM, Leonardo M. Ramé wrote: Hi, does anyone knows if it can be possible to read/subscribe to newsgroups (nntp) with mutt?. Mutt is just an MUA, and attempts to extend it into anything more than that (RSS reader, NNTP reader, etc.) are silly IMO. If you must absolutely have NNTP and mail, then Mutt isn't for you. I would recommend using Gnus (http://gnus.org). Gnus is too slow. (Yes, I use it, I tolerate it) I won't recommend Gnus if you really like mutt, I don't like mutt very much so I switched. As for an NNTP reader, try slrn. -- Carl Lei (XeCycle) Department of Physics, Shanghai Jiao Tong University OpenPGP public key: 7795E591 Fingerprint: 1FB6 7F1F D45D F681 C845 27F7 8D71 8EC4 7795 E591
Re: NNTP reader?
On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 08:42:24AM -0600, Aaron Toponce wrote: On 09/29/2011 06:17 AM, Leonardo M. Ramé wrote: Hi, does anyone knows if it can be possible to read/subscribe to newsgroups (nntp) with mutt?. Mutt is just an MUA, and attempts to extend it into anything more than that (RSS reader, NNTP reader, etc.) are silly IMO. If you must absolutely have NNTP and mail, then Mutt isn't for you. I would recommend using Gnus (http://gnus.org). I didn't see the start of this thread so sorry if this is a repeat... There is an NNTP patch for mutt, and some people swear by it. There are a lot of arguments against the patch, but integrating mail and NNTP is not such a crazy idea... fundamentally they're basically the same thing, with a lot of the same types of operations and behaviors. There obviously are important differences though, and mutt just wasn't really written with that in mind, so the integration (codewise) is a bit clunky. You can find out about the NNTP patch, and a bunch of other useful patches, here: http://wiki.mutt.org/?PatchList -- Derek D. Martinhttp://www.pizzashack.org/ GPG Key ID: 0xDFBEAD02 -=-=-=-=- This message is posted from an invalid address. Replying to it will result in undeliverable mail due to spam prevention. Sorry for the inconvenience. pgpI7ZTflmm0Y.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: NNTP reader?
* On 30 Sep 2011, Aaron Toponce wrote: On 09/29/2011 06:17 AM, Leonardo M. Ramé wrote: Hi, does anyone knows if it can be possible to read/subscribe to newsgroups (nntp) with mutt?. Mutt is just an MUA, and attempts to extend it into anything more than that (RSS reader, NNTP reader, etc.) are silly IMO. If you must absolutely have NNTP and mail, then Mutt isn't for you. I would recommend using Gnus (http://gnus.org). Linux is just a server platform, and attempts to make it anything more than that (desktop, embedded system, etc.) are silly. If you must absolutely have POSIX and a desktop, then Linux isn't for you. I would recomend using MacOS (http://apple.com). No doubt some people would agree with that, but there are thousands who do not and hundreds who are working precisely in opposition to that sentiment. Why is this different? The vvv NNTP patch works quite well, if you're comfortable compiling mutt for yourself. I quit reading Usenet a few years back and haven't been building in NNTP support since, but it was a good solution for me at the time. http://mutt.org.ua/download/ -- David Champion • d...@uchicago.edu • IT Services • University of Chicago
Re: NNTP reader?
Leonardo M. Ramé wrote (Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 09:53:32AM -0300): That could what I'm looking for. It would be nice to let slrn store the results in different mbox folders, so I can access them using mutt. I used this method a while back to read Usenet newsgroups. Have attached a script that I used at the time, in case it's of any use to you as a starting point. mandar. #!/bin/tcsh set slrnpull = /usr/bin/slrnpull set newsdir = /var/spool/slrnpull/news/rec/music/indian/classical set logfile = /tmp/slrnpull.mandar #set host = news.cs.tu-berlin.de set host = dp-news.maxwell.syr.edu $slrnpull --expire --logfile $logfile cd $newsdir foreach f (`/bin/ls [0-9]*`) /usr/bin/formail -a Article: $f of rec.music.indian.classical -I Path: $f ! $HOME/News/rmic.slrn /bin/rm $f sleep 1 end echo $logfile $slrnpull -h $host --logfile $logfile /bin/mail mandar -s slrnpull log $logfile /bin/rm $logfile
Re: NNTP reader?
* David Champion schrieb am Freitag, den 30. September 2011: Linux is just a server platform, [...] I would recomend using MacOS (http://apple.com). Yes, Linux is the OS without a GUI and MacOS ist the OS with a GUI¹ ;) Andreas -- ¹ GUI = Girls Use It
Re: NNTP reader?
29 сентября 2011, 16:17 от Leonardo M. Ramé l.r...@griensu.com: I've read there are third-party patches for this, but I would like to find an easier way. There are some software which tansforms nntp to mail (send to mailbox or present as IMAP), but I would not call it an easier way. At leas for me it was easier to patch and rebuild mutt than get such software working in proper way. The patch works quite good and stable. -- Max
Re: NNTP reader?
* Leonardo M. Ramé schrieb am Donnerstag, den 29. September 2011: Hi, does anyone knows if it can be possible to read/subscribe to newsgroups (nntp) with mutt?. Only read? If you pull the articles of a newsgroup with slrnpull, you can read they e.g. with $ mutt -f .slrn/spool/news/de/rec/film/misc Andreas
Re: NNTP reader?
On 2011-09-29 14:42:44 +0200, Andreas Kneib wrote: * Leonardo M. Ramé schrieb am Donnerstag, den 29. September 2011: Hi, does anyone knows if it can be possible to read/subscribe to newsgroups (nntp) with mutt?. Only read? If you pull the articles of a newsgroup with slrnpull, you can read they e.g. with $ mutt -f .slrn/spool/news/de/rec/film/misc Andreas That could what I'm looking for. It would be nice to let slrn store the results in different mbox folders, so I can access them using mutt. -- Leonardo M. Ramé http://leonardorame.blogspot.com
Re: nntp
Le mer 04 jun 03 à 13:17, Loïc Minier a écrit: Sébastien Mengin [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Wed, Jun 04, 2003: Maintenant ils sont triés par date par défaut. J'aimerais bien retrouvé mon tri par objet + date avec l'arborescence... set sort=threads Plus malin et les options sort_aux, et sort_browser : # Default sort method folder-hook . set sort=threads # Threads are sorted by date folder-hook . set sort_aux=date # Sort alphabetically while browsing files set sort_browser=alpha # Some sorting rules on folder-hooks folder-hook sent/* set sort=date Magnifique :-) Merci pour tout cela. -- Loïc Minier [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Sébastien
Re: nntp
On Tue, Jun 03, 2003 at 02:03:40PM +0200, Sébastien Mengin wrote: Maintenant mutt me sert les news, mais il semble un peu fragilisé du coup : plusieurs fois de suite il me fait des erreurs de segmentations :-/ Chose qu'il ne me faisait jamais avant... Je me donne quelques jours de tests pour voir comment il réagit dans la durée. J'ai eu le même problème, pendant les 2, 3 premiers jours d'utilisation, puis je l'ai jamais re-eu. Je pas à quoi c'était dû mais depuis pas le moindre soucis à signaler. -- Bernard Massot pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: nntp
Sébastien Mengin [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Wed, Jun 04, 2003: Maintenant ils sont triés par date par défaut. J'aimerais bien retrouvé mon tri par objet + date avec l'arborescence... set sort=threads Plus malin et les options sort_aux, et sort_browser : # Default sort method folder-hook . set sort=threads # Threads are sorted by date folder-hook . set sort_aux=date # Sort alphabetically while browsing files set sort_browser=alpha # Some sorting rules on folder-hooks folder-hook sent/* set sort=date -- Loïc Minier [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: nntp in mutt
On Jan/12/2002, Rob 'Feztaa' Park wrote: Ok, I've recompiled mutt with Vsevolod Volkoy's NNTP patch, and I've been poking around a bit... but I can't for the life of my figure out how to configure mutt for NNTP now that it is compiled properly. Anybody know what I have to do? When you patch the sources of Mutt, the manual is also patched. So, you have a Reading news with mutt (or something alike) section in the manual. Have you checked it out yet? :-? -- Roberto Suarez Soto · The world owes you nothing. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ·It was here first. Corgo/Lugo/Galicia/Spain · (Mark Twain)
Re: nntp in mutt
Alas! Roberto Suarez Soto spake thus: Ok, I've recompiled mutt with Vsevolod Volkoy's NNTP patch, and I've been poking around a bit... but I can't for the life of my figure out how to configure mutt for NNTP now that it is compiled properly. Anybody know what I have to do? When you patch the sources of Mutt, the manual is also patched. So, you have a Reading news with mutt (or something alike) section in the manual. Have you checked it out yet? :-? Which manual? The man page for the muttrc just says that %g expands to the newsgroup if mutt is compiled with nntp support, there is nothing else about nntp in there. -- Rob 'Feztaa' Park [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Science has proof without any certainty. Creationists have certainty without any proof. -- Ashley Montague msg23016/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
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On 2002.01.12, in [EMAIL PROTECTED], Rob 'Feztaa' Park [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Which manual? The man page for the muttrc just says that %g expands to the newsgroup if mutt is compiled with nntp support, there is nothing else about nntp in there. The mutt man page shows: -G Start Mutt with a listing of subscribed newsgroups. The manual (manual.txt) shows NNTP information in section 2.7, 3.18, and in several 6.3.x sections concerning variables containing nntp and news in their names. 6.3.106 talks about the URL-like syntax supported as a folder naming syntax: nntp[s]://news.server.name/news.group.name -- -D.[EMAIL PROTECTED]NSITUniversity of Chicago
Re: nntp in mutt
Alas! David Champion spake thus: Which manual? The man page for the muttrc just says that %g expands to the newsgroup if mutt is compiled with nntp support, there is nothing else about nntp in there. The mutt man page shows: -G Start Mutt with a listing of subscribed newsgroups. $ mutt -G mutt: invalid option -- G Mutt 1.3.25i (2002-01-01) usage: mutt [ -nRyzZ ] [ -e cmd ] [ -F file ] [ -m type ] [ -f file ] mutt [ -nx ] [ -e cmd ] [ -a file ] [ -F file ] [ -H file ] [ -i file ] [ -s subj ] [ -b addr ] [ -c addr ] addr [ ... ] mutt [ -n ] [ -e cmd ] [ -F file ] -p mutt -v[v] options: ... -g server specify a newsserver (if compiled with NNTP) -Gselect a newsgroup (if compiled with NNTP) ... Very bloody funny. Mutt 1.3.25i (2002-01-01) Copyright (C) 1996-2001 Michael R. Elkins and others. Mutt comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY; for details type `mutt -vv'. Mutt is free software, and you are welcome to redistribute it under certain conditions; type `mutt -vv' for details. System: Linux 2.4.12-386 (i686) [using ncurses 5.2] Compile options: -DOMAIN +DEBUG -HOMESPOOL +USE_SETGID +USE_DOTLOCK +DL_STANDALONE +USE_FCNTL -USE_FLOCK -USE_POP -USE_NNTP -USE_IMAP -USE_GSS -USE_SSL -USE_SASL +HAVE_REGCOMP -USE_GNU_REGEX +HAVE_COLOR +HAVE_START_COLOR +HAVE_TYPEAHEAD +HAVE_BKGDSET +HAVE_CURS_SET +HAVE_META +HAVE_RESIZETERM +HAVE_PGP -BUFFY_SIZE -EXACT_ADDRESS -SUN_ATTACHMENT +ENABLE_NLS -LOCALES_HACK +HAVE_WC_FUNCS +HAVE_LANGINFO_CODESET ++HAVE_LANGINFO_YESEXPR +HAVE_ICONV -ICONV_NONTRANS +HAVE_GETSID -HAVE_GETADDRINFO ISPELL=/usr/bin/ispell SENDMAIL=/usr/sbin/sendmail MAILPATH=/var/mail PKGDATADIR=/usr/local/share/mutt SYSCONFDIR=/usr/local/etc EXECSHELL=/bin/sh -MIXMASTER To contact the developers, please mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]. To report a bug, please use the flea(1) utility. vvv.nntp The manual (manual.txt) shows NNTP information in section 2.7, 3.18, and in several 6.3.x sections concerning variables containing nntp and news in their names. 6.3.106 talks about the URL-like syntax supported as a folder naming syntax: nntp[s]://news.server.name/news.group.name I'm about to read the manual.txt. It seems to have some relevant stuff in it. -- Rob 'Feztaa' Park [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Are we all turning into AOLusers or what? Next thing we know, we'll all be shouting 'Me 2! Me 2!' and someone will have to shoot us... -- Chris King, in A.S.R msg23027/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: nntp in mutt
Alas! David Champion spake thus: The manual (manual.txt) shows NNTP information in section 2.7, 3.18, and Section 2.7: 2.7. Reading news via NNTP If compiled with ``--enable-nntp'' option, Mutt can read news from newsserver via NNTP. You can open a newsgroup with function ``change- newsgroup'' (default: i). Default newsserver can be obtained from NNTPSERVER environment variable. Like other news readers, info about subscribed newsgroups is saved in file by ``$newsrc'' variable. Article headers are cached and can be loaded from file when newsgroup entered instead loading from newsserver. I compiled mutt like this, just now: ./configure --enable-nntp make make install and mutt is acting exactly like nntp was not compiled in: - -g and -G are invalid options - i key is not bound - etc. What is the matter with this thing? *Sigh*. Thanks for your support, guys. -- Rob 'Feztaa' Park [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Television: A medium. So called because it's neither rare nor well done. -- Ernie Kovacs msg23029/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: nntp in mutt
Alas! David Champion spake thus: On 2002.01.12, in [EMAIL PROTECTED], Rob 'Feztaa' Park [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: options: ... -g server specify a newsserver (if compiled with NNTP) -Gselect a newsgroup (if compiled with NNTP) ... Well, note the if compiled with NNTP part - Yes, it was complied with the vvv.nntp patch at the time I sent that message. Compile options: -DOMAIN +DEBUG -HOMESPOOL +USE_SETGID +USE_DOTLOCK +DL_STANDALONE +USE_FCNTL -USE_FLOCK -USE_POP -USE_NNTP -USE_IMAP -USE_GSS -USE_SSL -USE_SASL ^ Did you configure with --enable-nntp? Not at the time I sent that letter, but I've just recompiled it with --enable-nntp and it's still not working. -g and -G are still bad, and the i key (which should do something with nntp according to the manual) is not bound. $ mutt -v Mutt 1.3.25i (2002-01-01) Copyright (C) 1996-2001 Michael R. Elkins and others. Mutt comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY; for details type `mutt -vv'. Mutt is free software, and you are welcome to redistribute it under certain conditions; type `mutt -vv' for details. System: Linux 2.4.12-386 (i686) [using ncurses 5.2] Compile options: -DOMAIN +DEBUG -HOMESPOOL +USE_SETGID +USE_DOTLOCK +DL_STANDALONE +USE_FCNTL -USE_FLOCK -USE_POP -USE_IMAP -USE_GSS -USE_SSL -USE_SASL +HAVE_REGCOMP -USE_GNU_REGEX +HAVE_COLOR +HAVE_START_COLOR +HAVE_TYPEAHEAD +HAVE_BKGDSET +HAVE_CURS_SET +HAVE_META +HAVE_RESIZETERM +HAVE_PGP -BUFFY_SIZE -EXACT_ADDRESS -SUN_ATTACHMENT +ENABLE_NLS -LOCALES_HACK +HAVE_WC_FUNCS +HAVE_LANGINFO_CODESET ++HAVE_LANGINFO_YESEXPR +HAVE_ICONV -ICONV_NONTRANS +HAVE_GETSID -HAVE_GETADDRINFO ISPELL=/usr/bin/ispell SENDMAIL=/usr/sbin/sendmail MAILPATH=/var/mail PKGDATADIR=/usr/local/share/mutt SYSCONFDIR=/usr/local/etc EXECSHELL=/bin/sh -MIXMASTER To contact the developers, please mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]. To report a bug, please use the flea(1) utility. Ugh. It seems as though the -g and -G options are now missing from the output of 'mutt -h'. Does this mean I have to compile with the nntp patch _and_ --enable-nntp?? -- Rob 'Feztaa' Park [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The last time I was in Spain I got through six Jeffrey Archer novels. I must remember to take enough toilet paper next time. -- Bob Monkhouse msg23030/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: nntp patch and hooks
On Tue, Jun 19, 2001 at 02:06:43PM -0400, Louis LeBlanc wrote: # Set my nntp signature file (defaults are set in .muttrc) server-hook news.server.net 'set signature=~/.mutt/nntpsig' yup, that's what I tried... but no luck at all. I put in: server-hook news.server.new 'set signature=test' and hit P - I still get my standard sig... send-hooks aren't called for nntp posts, right? any way to debug this? Thanks, -- Dan Boger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: NNTP patch questions
Hi... On Mon, May 21, 2001 at 11:28:29AM +0200, Louis-David Mitterrand wrote: Vsevolod Volkov - Not real sure of the patch version (1.3.?) but he makes it easy by putting it into a 'stable' directory. Looks like a 2/21/01 update. Yes, it works fine.. I have mutt 1.3.15 and the nntp-patch from vvv is great, but... how can I post news to newsgroups? I'm using exim on my client and on my server is leafnode installed? I installed inews, but I dont't know to set the right settings in the mutt. May anyone help me? Cheers Jan -- One time, you all will be emulated by linux! Jan- Hendrik Palic Url:http://www.billgotchy.de; E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP signature
Re: NNTP patch
Hi Suresh Ramasubramanian ! On Mon 06 Nov 2000 (09:23), you muttered on the list: Nils Vogels proclaimed on mutt-users that: I have seen 3 patches to add NNTP support to mutt .. which one is "the best" in your opinion ? They all fo the same job AFAIK .. Vselvod Volkov's patch seems to be the best. I tried it but then preferred to stick to slrn. YMMV of course. OK .. applied it, setup some config but now ... :) I setup the innd.conf and NNTPSERVER variables just like inews wants .. and have set my inews variable to ' set inews="/usr/bin/inews -h" ' When I run inews by hand and paste a message into it. I see all goes just fine .. when I use mutt, for some reason it dun work :/ Can I someway check how mutt invokes inews and what it passes there ? Grtz, Nils. PGP signature
Re: NNTP patch
Nils Vogels proclaimed on mutt-users that: I have seen 3 patches to add NNTP support to mutt .. which one is "the best" in your opinion ? They all fo the same job AFAIK .. Vselvod Volkov's patch seems to be the best. I tried it but then preferred to stick to slrn. YMMV of course. -- Suresh Ramasubramanian + Wallopus Malletus Indigenensis mallet @ cluestick.org + Lumber Cartel of India, tinlcI The only difference in the game of love over the last few thousand years is that they've changed trumps from clubs to diamonds. -- The Indianapolis Star
Re: NNTP
On Tue, Mar 21, 2000 at 03:55:38PM -0500, James O'Kane wrote: Hey, I stopped by the channel and no one was there, so I'm going to ask here. The thing that has been keeping me from switching from pine is that I like pine's merged interface where I only have to use one program with one set of keybindings to do mail or nntp. Is there somewhere I should look? I'd strongly prefer one program, so that I don't have to change my habits, my outgoing mail is merged into the same sent-mail folders. Any advice? -james Dear James, I'm using a hacked paper_carrier http://www.isi.edu/~johnh/SOFTWARE/ to deliver news to my mail spool; haven't tried to figure out yet how to get it so I can reply to messages and it gets posted on Usenet. Yours, -at
